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Aikuchi Tomaru
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Posted - 2014.04.28 12:14:00 -
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Ok... so we need 10000 Kills to get the full bonus SP? Or did I get something wrong?
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Aikuchi Tomaru
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Posted - 2014.04.28 12:30:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:Vyzion Eyri wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:
If others are fine with it good for them,me personly i wont support this slow progression method to pay to win items. This just proves to me the free 2 play model is unworkable and heavily flawed without strong sponsorship.
Steady your hand, Amarrian. These AURUM users can still die like the rest of us, and if you're still as good with that SCR as you were when you blapped my face with them back when the LP store just came and out everyone was obsessed with FW, then you simply have to kill them before they get any kills, and as such get no bonus SP. Just to reiterate, you need to earn kills to get this 500k bonus SP! The doubled SP cap can be earned on any action, but the extra 500k is ONLY on kills, that's how I read it in Logibro's post and unless I am corrected that's how I'll continue to see it. Which means if we all gang-up on these 'Origin' suits and kill 'em, then steal their kills when we're on the same team, nothing for them. Hardly pay-to-win.  edit: and no offense buddy but you're talking about pay-to-win when you're sitting in the join-to-win DUST alliance. edit2: sorry couldn't resist the jab. Still missing the point. Iv always had the rule if ARU gear has an advanatage over std gear i will stop playing dust a lot of old vet communty had this redline too. At some point you have to draw a line. This is mine because its only a small step to go "due to the sucess of the orgin suits they shall keep their event advantage, which in this case is faster isk and d Sp gain" And so on as i said once i clamed down this will be fine for most but not for me. Dust514 has given me little reason to keep playing. It has now given me a reason to stop playing
When you use these Aurum suits you bring real money onto the battlefield - meaning you risk more than just ingame money - and you can only cap faster. You don't get more SP. There's still a big way to go to Dust becoming P2W. I mean seriously: You just get x3 SP with the same cap. So what?Boosters are worse than that, because they actually increase your cap. So I don't know why you're suddenly offended because Aurum users can cap out faster for this event.
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Aikuchi Tomaru
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Posted - 2014.04.28 12:52:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:Kash Tellan wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:
- Earn bonus 500,000 SP and extra ISK per character! Every infantry kill will give you an extra 50 SP and an additional 5,000
Just to clarify this part. Before we cap out on the double weekly bonus SP, we will get the usual SP, which is: 50/60/75 WP multiplied by the end of match WP-to-SP conversion(affecting WP from kills only - no hacking, logistuff WP) plus this additional 50 SP (100 SP in origin suit), right? And, once the weekly cap is reached (1 WP= 1 SP), we will only be getting as much as 50/60/75 SP + 50 SP (100 SP) counting towards the infantry kill cap, correct? No. It effectively functions as a normal double SP event (so for all actions that give SP) plus a extra bonus per kill, with the extra bonus per kill having a separate cap. But you are correct for once you hit the cap.
Can you please confirm the number of kills we need to cap out the bonus SP? Do we REALLY need 10.000 kills for that? In 1 week?
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Aikuchi Tomaru
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Posted - 2014.04.28 12:55:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:Vyzion Eyri wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:
If others are fine with it good for them,me personly i wont support this slow progression method to pay to win items. This just proves to me the free 2 play model is unworkable and heavily flawed without strong sponsorship.
Steady your hand, Amarrian. These AURUM users can still die like the rest of us, and if you're still as good with that SCR as you were when you blapped my face with them back when the LP store just came and out everyone was obsessed with FW, then you simply have to kill them before they get any kills, and as such get no bonus SP. Just to reiterate, you need to earn kills to get this 500k bonus SP! The doubled SP cap can be earned on any action, but the extra 500k is ONLY on kills, that's how I read it in Logibro's post and unless I am corrected that's how I'll continue to see it. Which means if we all gang-up on these 'Origin' suits and kill 'em, then steal their kills when we're on the same team, nothing for them. Hardly pay-to-win. edit: and no offense buddy but you're talking about pay-to-win when you're sitting in the join-to-win DUST alliance. edit2: sorry couldn't resist the jab. Still missing the point. Iv always had the rule if ARU gear has an advanatage over std gear i will stop playing dust a lot of old vet communty had this redline too. At some point you have to draw a line. This is mine because its only a small step to go "due to the sucess of the orgin suits they shall keep their event advantage, which in this case is faster isk and d Sp gain" And so on as i said once i clamed down this will be fine for most but not for me. Dust514 has given me little reason to keep playing. It has now given me a reason to stop playing When you use these Aurum suits you bring real money onto the battlefield - meaning you risk more than just ingame money - and you can only cap faster. You don't get more SP. There's still a big way to go to Dust becoming P2W. I mean seriously: You just get x3 SP with the same cap. So what?Boosters are worse than that, because they actually increase your cap. So I don't know why you're suddenly offended because Aurum users can cap out faster for this event. As i said i tolerated boosters i was never happy with them, im not suddenly offended i was always very outspoken on this subject this is just the first tug down this line. Im simply stating right off the bat nope not happy. Appeasement and going im sure ccp know what their doing led us to this current state of dust. So this me going NO not happy boosters where my l+¡mit. Endof
You tolerated that boosters greatly increased your SP in past events. We had an event currently where you only had to pop in a 1-Day-Omega-Booster at any time during the event, play 10 matches and get 1 million SP more than non-paying players. And you accepted that without saying you will stop playing. But capping out faster by using Aurum suits is a no-go? Heck. Getting SP faster by paying is nothing new in Dust and barely anybody has a problem. Because it's not even really P2W.
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Aikuchi Tomaru
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Posted - 2014.04.28 13:09:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:Iv said my peace. Its not the event itself its the very idea of giving a stright up avantatge to a suit i didnt like it with bossters but decided it was a side effect of the event. This is a concues point.
But disagree with me this is not russia if u think im overreacting fine, simple means the communty is happy to pay for event advanatages etc. Its been a slow creep and this is were a get off. Best of +º
Luck with ccp with fanfest maybe i will see somthing i like but i doubt it.
You can have problems with events as much as you like... but your reasoning is in no way understandable. If you said "It's P2W because paying customers get way more SP from that event!" I could understand that. I wouldn't agree with it, but I could understand why you think like that.
But this was something you tolerated. What's suddenly too much for you is something much less severe... capping out faster while using Aurum suits...
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Aikuchi Tomaru
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Posted - 2014.04.28 13:48:00 -
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Kigurosaka Laaksonen wrote:This community is just great. Love you guys. We set a high bar for reading comprehension.
These events force us to improve our reading comprehension. Some day we will be the best readers a game has ever created. I think this is CCPs goal.
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Aikuchi Tomaru
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Posted - 2014.04.28 18:29:00 -
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After careful consideration I came to the only logical conclusion... CCP will introduce PvE against drones on April 30. That's the only way it's possible to get 10.000 kills in a week.
According to this guy it means we would have to do 1 kill every minute for 7 days straight to cap out this event. Meaning it's 2 kills a minute in the case of the full 100 kill SP going towards the bonus SP cap. That's basically impossible to do in PvP.
So either this event isn't intended to be even remotely capped out, or we get PvE where it would probably be possible to do 10.000 kills in a week with a little effort.
I mean we all know CCP likes to make us farm and that's fine, but during the million clone challenge they also said they want to keep the eventgoals doable. And 10.000 or even 5.000 kills in a single week is definitely not doable if you still want to do silly things like sleeping, eating or working.
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Aikuchi Tomaru
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Posted - 2014.04.28 23:28:00 -
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Awry Barux wrote:Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:After careful consideration I came to the only logical conclusion... CCP will introduce PvE against drones on April 30. That's the only way it's possible to get 10.000 kills in a week. According to this guy it means we would have to do 1 kill every minute for 7 days straight to cap out this event. Meaning it's 2 kills a minute in the case of the full 100 kill SP going towards the bonus SP cap. That's basically impossible to do in PvP. So either this event isn't intended to be even remotely capped out, or we get PvE where it would probably be possible to do 10.000 kills in a week with a little effort. I mean we all know CCP likes to make us farm and that's fine, but during the million clone challenge they also said they want to keep the eventgoals doable. And 10.000 or even 5.000 kills in a single week is definitely not doable if you still want to do silly things like sleeping, eating or working. That would be so juicy. I really, really hope that's the fanfest announcement, but I doubt it.
I doubt it too. It's probably more like we actually get our full WP to that cap... heck: Even if it isn't intended to be like this, knowing CCPs scripts this is probably how it will turn out in the end. Either that or it will decrease our SP.
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Aikuchi Tomaru
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Posted - 2014.04.28 23:34:00 -
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Heavenly Daughter wrote:Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:Ok... so we need 10000 Kills to get the full bonus SP? Or did I get something wrong? I think it's 5000 (+50sp or 100sp a kill) unless you use an origin suit then its about 3300 or ( +100sp or 150sp) a kill. Just don't quote me on this, as you never know with CCP Either way, it's to long a grind and shan't bother with this. It will be ok if you're a tanker otherwise just play like you normally do and be happy that you'll scratch the surface if this.
Long grind is good, try impossible.
5.000 kills -> 714 kills / day -> 30 kills / hour -> 1 kill every 2 minutes. And we're talking 1 kill every 2 minutes straight. No downtime, no break, no eating, no sleeping, no working.
It's basically impossible to cap that event.
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Aikuchi Tomaru
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Posted - 2014.04.29 09:00:00 -
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CCP Frame wrote:Sounds fun for sure! I will join you guys from Shanghai during these days in Ambush US/EU (will be switching on and off). Oh, and since some of you might be interested - Origin Pack contains:
Booster:
GÇó Active skill booster 3 day
20 copies of each:
Dropsuits:
GÇó GÇÿOriginGÇÖ Assault C-1 [Origin Pack exclusive]
GÇó GÇÿOriginGÇÖ Logistics M-1 [Origin Pack exclusive]
Weapons:
GÇó GÇÿBlindfireGÇÖ Assault Rifle
GÇó GÇÿSlashventGÇÖ Submachine Gun
GÇó GÇÿTsunamiGÇÖ Mass Driver
GÇó GÇÿHuskGÇÖ AV grenade
GÇó GÇÿHazeGÇÖ locus Grenade
Equipment:
GÇó GÇÿEclipseGÇÖ Active Scanner
GÇó GÇÿTerminusGÇÖ Drop Uplink
GÇó GÇÿTorrentGÇÖ Nanohive
GÇó GÇÿCannibalGÇÖ Nanite Injector
Modules:
GÇó GÇÿKinesisGÇÖ Basic Shield Extender
GÇó GÇÿSynapseGÇÖ Basic Shield Recharger
GÇó GÇÿPathogenGÇÖ Basic Codebreaker
GÇó GÇÿShaftGÇÖ Basic Shield Regulator
GÇó GÇÿNacreGÇÖ Basic Reactive Plates
GÇó GÇÿAbatisGÇÖ Basic Ferroscale Plates
GÇó GÇÿGoliathGÇÖ basic armour plates
Maybe the booster is worth it with the 50% price cut and I might get that one... but I won't use Origin gear. Any comment on how we are supposed to cap out the bonus kill SP?
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Posted - 2014.04.29 20:01:00 -
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Vespasian Andendare wrote:Strker Remorse wrote:And still no Dust related gift for those of us that bought the HD Fanfest Stream. It's hard being the red-headed stepchild, especially when your shiny new spaceship-fighter game brother is getting all the press. Notice that the Eve Online, Eve: Valkyrie and CCP Presents keynotes are all a full two hours, and Dust only gets an hour.
Eve Online got 3 or 4 devblogs during the last few days. -.-
I'm also a bit bummed that we only get a 1 hour keynote. It's better be good. And of course about stuff we will see in the next 6 months and not about stuff we get to play in 5 years.
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Posted - 2014.04.30 08:12:00 -
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Artemis Kaiba wrote:50 extra SP per kill to a max of 500000. So we are expected to make 10000 kills in one week ?
*5000 kills; apparently the full kill WP count
We already got through this a few times. You're supposed to make a kill every 2 minutes starting at downtime. Straight. No time for breaks, school / work / university, sleep, eating or other silly things. You actually don't even have time for daily downtimes.
So well, even if it actually is 10.000 kills it doesn't matter, because even 5000 kills is physically impossible. Unless you do nothing else but exploiting of course. Maybe CCP wants to find exploiters? Cap out that event and you get banned?
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