As someone who actually uses a KB/M setup for DUST, I can tell you straight up that any halfway competent DS3 player will be able to whip any of those builds so named in a 1v1.

So all you need are some acceptable skill level DS3 players with solid proto-grade fits to wipe those 4 guys off the map.

And I would like to finally add something: KB/M strafing is not inherently superior to DS3 strafing. In fact, it's actually worse, as the vastly more effective circle strafe techniques are incredibly difficult to duplicate on a keyboard, and nearly impossible to track with a mouse (I speak from experience, BTW).

Keyboard strafing has only one advantage, that being a minutely faster difference in the ability to change direction. The ability of a DS3 user to efficiently and easily circle strafe far outweighs any marginal increase in direction change on a simple side-to-side strafe.

Finally, mouse aiming in DUST is pretty terrible by comparison to most games which use a mouse input. There are times where I feel as if I am actually fighting with the controls to do what I want as an infantry player. Hopping into a tank means painfully slow turret traverse speeds, and the KB/M scheme for dropships is just rather convoluted in general- and don't even get me started on the temperamental nature of the equipment/vehicle module select wheel(s).

I'll wait on a test on the kb/m vs ds3 thing.

I know if I had to use a ds3 to use windows, I would take twice as long to click on an icon than with a mouse.

On topic, are we allowed to have a sniper for harassment - snipers are not just about killing. They are about making people stay more indoors and softening them up. Restricted movement tends to start to screw over a group.

I'm not saying that's the entire solution. I'm saying it's a start.

Next you might want a tank parked at one end - these bastards tend to make enemies atleast pause in their 'pop out and hose everyone' tactics. So clones can move in leap frog style to the nearest opening then zerg.

When players strafe too much, AA gets disabled, putting you in manual aiming. I don't know what is up with DUSTs aiming, but I can't keep my reticule on enemies when this happens. Even with AA off in any other game, I don't have this problem, only in DUST. The bad aiming system is driving me crazy. I was watching Funkwhales streams, and he had no problems staying on track, so I figured something must be wrong.

*stuff about BF3 stats*

Ok, so it's like I thought, that Logi MUST be taken out first, can't get around that.

Templar, Slugs are relevant. They require you to aim before every shot, and you have less than a second to get your aiming right- or your enemies kill you.

I pointed that out, because if I can be accurate with that-one of THE hardest setups to get used to, then I shouldn't be having problems on DUST.

Lets say this is a PC battle, there being a city, and in the city there are two points out of a total of five.

The enemy team Has 2 Very High HP Heavies, 1 High HP Logi, and 1 High HP very fast strafing Caldari Assault guarding one of the points. Lets assume it will only be these four, all others will be at the outside points, no other reinforcements will come.

All are maxed out, and kill very fast. They are all keyboard strafing, and using the mouse to aim.

What kind of squad/ tactics would be most effective in beating this? Let's assume there is no harassment from enemy ADS's, no Tanks, and no Orbitals for the time being. What setup is the most efficient in taking this out?


I'd appreciate the thoughts of those out there who are tacticians, and/or have beat this/many PC's already.

I'm trying to learn how to be a more effective squad leader, so I would be grateful to hear the advice from you out there who have no problems facing this.


Thank you.

Ok, so it's like I thought, that Logi MUST be taken out first, can't get around that. So priority targets would be the Assault and the Logi.

So, if I only have 4 people to fight this then would this squad work?

(1)Minmatar Logi Bricked-Highest HP possible-Six Kin Combat Rifle Prof. 5-(X) Core Rep tool,(X) Creo Scanner, (X)FW 100% Needle, FW Nanohives (X)

(2)Proto Amarr Heavy- Highest HP equipped- HIghest HMG equipped-

(3) Caldari Scout- Remote Explosives?-Cloak-Unsure of most effective fit

(4) Gal/Cal. Scout-Ammo or Remote Explosives?-Cloak--Unsure of most effective fit

Not the smartest idea using a core repair tool with only one heavy. I suggest either the Core focused or the Six-kin triage.

In order of repair rate.
Core focused rep- 156.25 a second, one person= total heal 156.25 a second on one person
Core rep.- 87.5 a second, two people= total heal 175 a second spit between two people
(The Lai Dai Flux repair tool has the same repair rate as the core repair tool, yet it has more range than the core)
Six-kin triage rep.- 110 a second, two people= total heal 220 a second split between two people
Boundless rep.- 112.5 a second, two people= total heal 225 a second split between two people

I am an O.C.D. logi

As someone who actually uses a KB/M setup for DUST, I can tell you straight up that any halfway competent DS3 player will be able to whip any of those builds so named in a 1v1.

So all you need are some acceptable skill level DS3 players with solid proto-grade fits to wipe those 4 guys off the map.

And I would like to finally add something: KB/M strafing is not inherently superior to DS3 strafing. In fact, it's actually worse, as the vastly more effective circle strafe techniques are incredibly difficult to duplicate on a keyboard, and nearly impossible to track with a mouse (I speak from experience, BTW).

Keyboard strafing has only one advantage, that being a minutely faster difference in the ability to change direction. The ability of a DS3 user to efficiently and easily circle strafe far outweighs any marginal increase in direction change on a simple side-to-side strafe.

Finally, mouse aiming in DUST is pretty terrible by comparison to most games which use a mouse input. There are times where I feel as if I am actually fighting with the controls to do what I want as an infantry player. Hopping into a tank means painfully slow turret traverse speeds, and the KB/M scheme for dropships is just rather convoluted in general- and don't even get me started on the temperamental nature of the equipment/vehicle module select wheel(s).

Lets say this is a PC battle, there being a city, and in the city there are two points out of a total of five.

The enemy team Has 2 Very High HP Heavies, 1 High HP Logi, and 1 High HP very fast strafing Caldari Assault guarding one of the points. Lets assume it will only be these four, all others will be at the outside points, no other reinforcements will come.

All are maxed out, and kill very fast. They are all keyboard strafing, and using the mouse to aim.