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CRNWLLC Screwy Rabbit ULC 230	Posted - 2014.04.23 18:29:00 - [1] - Quote I love it. One of my favorite recurring complaints about snipers is along the lines of, "UR SO DUM Y U NOT B GUD N HELP UR TEEM UR COWWERD". Right--because when I'm on a team that's getting beat worse than Tina Turner, it's way more valuable for me to throw clones down the drain trying to run on the frontline (something I do adequately, at best) than it is for me to get at least a few kills and deny the enemy WP for harvesting my corpse (which, you know, adds to the odds of their calling an orbital, further obliterating out already sad forces). I encourage other snipers to contribute their observations of obfuscated anti-sniper propaganda, and ask our detractors to fling mad sh!t, for it is sunny outside, and I feel ALIVE! My other dropsuit is a Python.
Gaurdian Satyr Glitched Connection 184	Posted - 2014.04.23 18:33:00 - [2] - Quote Ive been noticing a increase of sniper throughout the game now....no longer just proto/ thale snipers but militia, c-15, tactical, ect...sniping is growing more so people better HTFU and deal with it /deactivates shields\ bring it haters -holds arms in O- throw it in the story basket bro
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1467	Posted - 2014.04.23 19:07:00 - [3] - Quote It's more difficult to AFK than it is difficult to redline snipe.
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 7138	Posted - 2014.04.23 19:15:00 - [4] - Quote Gaurdian Satyr wrote: Ive been noticing a increase of sniper throughout the game now....no longer just proto/ thale snipers but militia, c-15, tactical, ect...sniping is growing more so people better HTFU and deal with it /deactivates shields\ bring it haters Lacks constructive argument. I think I'll bring this to the tankers instead. HAV > Infantry > AV < HAV [s]Text[/s] <------ That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Alex-P-Keaton Kramer Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 40	Posted - 2014.04.23 19:30:00 - [5] - Quote i can i just imagine the TC sitting at home typing this message out, getting a euphoric high thinking that he's oh so devious, gigglin' to himself trying to keep it quiet, thinking he's "troll" status or something, wearing the forever alone face http://i58.tinypic.com/15f3muh.png http://i57.tinypic.com/301n33b.jpg http://i58.tinypic.com/30c4pwk.jpg
CRNWLLC Screwy Rabbit ULC 230	Posted - 2014.04.23 19:37:00 - [6] - Quote Alex-P-Keaton Kramer wrote: i can i just imagine the TC sitting at home typing this message out, getting a euphoric high thinking that he's oh so devious, gigglin' to himself trying to keep it quiet, thinking he's "troll" status or something, wearing the forever alone face Who the fugg browses interweb forums at home? I'm at work--if I was at home, I'd be playing Dust. Duh. As per my post, I was (am) already on a euphoric high. BTW, "it is sunny outside" was a euphemism for "banging Alex-P-Keaton Kramer's mom". My other dropsuit is a Python.
Crimson ShieId Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 359	Posted - 2014.04.23 19:40:00 - [7] - Quote Glances at knives Glances at sniper camping in the redline Glances at knives again Calls in dropship Sniping, it's that thing done when there's a Thale's you want to make someone on the other team lose... though I much prefer watching an OB get dropped on the lone sniper. Nova Knives are OP! Nerf em before you lose all your proto suits!
Paul Peacemaker Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 49	Posted - 2014.04.23 19:51:00 - [8] - Quote Funny. When I'm in a match and the enemy is losing (slightly, not getting stomped) and then you see a couple of enemy players chicken out and go red line sniping because they can't handle a bit of heat, then I know that we won the battle. And from my experience, chicken snipers make the team lose every single time. That's what this game needs! 10 guys sniping, while 5 guys are trying to capture an objective with 15 enemies protecting it. And all the enemy has to do is just stand behind cover.
Onesimus Tarsus 703rd Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 1935	Posted - 2014.04.23 20:05:00 - [9] - Quote inb4"feelingrecoil"quote 1.9 forum warrior. SMG wielder. Mama's boy. I'm right, you're wrong. Adjust.
Jaed D'jaegweir Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 12	Posted - 2014.04.23 20:15:00 - [10] - Quote yesterday sniped 17 , 5 assists and 3 headshots today sniped 16, 7 assists and 5 headshots. don't know if you can upload photos "We do not live in a world of reality. We live in a world of perceptions." -Gerald Simmons

Beeeees Militaires Sans Jeux 547	Posted - 2014.04.23 20:20:00 - [11] - Quote Ive got a suit for the specific purpose of Thale-¦s reposession and general counter-scrub-sniping. And yeah, you are a shitter denying your team victory if you back up to the redline with a sniper rifle. TOLD514
Nothing Certain Bioshock Rejects 522	Posted - 2014.04.23 20:23:00 - [12] - Quote Yep. I don't mind snipers, sometimes I think " We really could use a good sniper or two", sometimes I do it myself. My problem is with those that insist on sniping even when it isn't helpful or do it because they just don't want to die. I have seen so many matches lost just because there are people sniping instead of pushing the objective that it is hard to see them as anything but a net liability. Because, that's why.
Snake Sellors Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 29	Posted - 2014.04.23 20:51:00 - [13] - Quote Your problems are with the "i'm gonna fall back and snipe now guys" there are some snipers that are even now still able to help our team more than enough. If there hadn't benn constant stealth nerfs and crying mercs then the sniper would be a viable role that didn't keep gettin these posts.. that said people just gettin hold of a thales and sayin sniping is easy cos i didn't die and killed 5 people just aren't helping at all
IceShifter Childhaspawn DUST University Ivy League 560	Posted - 2014.04.23 21:15:00 - [14] - Quote I swear this is the fourth or fifth time this point has been made. Snipping is a symptom of fotm. Its what people do when they feel they have no chance against the enemy. There are plenty of real snipers. The snippers (not a typo) always go away when the fotm is rectified. EP 1.8: Revenge of the Scouts Hiding in the redline means: I want to play, just not with *you* +25 = I'm helping
Cpl Foster USMC Sniper Research Lab 748	Posted - 2014.04.23 21:37:00 - [15] - Quote +1 for Sniper Hate. +3 for Tina Turner Semper Fidelis
Henrietta Unknown Sooper Speshul Ponee Fors Dropsuit Samurai 168	Posted - 2014.04.23 22:08:00 - [16] - Quote Lol, at least I park over an objective so there's more incentive. Sniping is legit when you're covering the only objective your entire team possesses from a near endless barrage of assaults, heavies, and infiltrating scouts. I use ADV tier rifles. Then comes the three MLT snipers that have had quite enough of the shenanigans, but all three crouch in obvious, exposed places and deserved to get headshotted.
Medical Crash CLONES AGAINST HUMANITY 301	Posted - 2014.04.23 22:09:00 - [17] - Quote CRNWLLC wrote: I love it. One of my favorite recurring complaints about snipers is along the lines of, "UR SO DUM Y U NOT B GUD N HELP UR TEEM UR COWWERD". Right--because when I'm on a team that's getting beat worse than Tina Turner, it's way more valuable for me to throw clones down the drain trying to run on the frontline (something I do adequately, at best) than it is for me to get at least a few kills and deny the enemy WP for harvesting my corpse (which, you know, adds to the odds of their calling an orbital, further obliterating out already sad forces). I encourage other snipers to contribute their observations of obfuscated anti-sniper propaganda, and ask our detractors to fling mad sh!t, for it is sunny outside, and I feel ALIVE! Use ur "starter" suits and get ur @zz on the frontlines solidier!....er merc!
CRNWLLC Screwy Rabbit ULC 234	Posted - 2014.04.23 22:36:00 - [18] - Quote Medical Crash wrote: Use ur "starter" suits and get ur @zz on the frontlines solidier!....er merc! Fa sho--I've been playing assault/sentinel a lot lately, since I really want to improve my toe-to-toe gun game. But still, there's cost/benefits, ya know--after a certain point, it's most economical for me to switch to a scout or sniper. However, the more often I play on the frontline, the further out that point is in the match (and lately I've been running assault the entire match). I'm typing this and it occurs to me: on the one hand, you have the folks I'm making fun of, that will always oppose snipers for not getting into the thick of it when their team is getting stomped; on the other, you have the folks that b!tch about how cowardly snipers are for OHKing them and being "uncounterable"--I imagine most of these folks experience this rage when their team's getting stomped and their most valiant efforts to turn the tides on the frontline, in vain though they may be, go unrewarded. (I imagine these folks are getting stomped already because why else would dying once to a sniper be a big deal? Unless you go full t@rd and keep putting yourself in the position to get killed by the same sniper...) My other dropsuit is a Python.
Rusty Shallows 1636	Posted - 2014.04.23 23:02:00 - [19] - Quote Yesterday during a Dom a sniper dared to leave the redline. I knew the general geography where he was. Running back to my deployment I drove a LAV the long way around looking for him. Jumped out 50 or so meters away and snuck up behind. One flux a four mass driver shots later he was dead. MY GOD that boy had the plates stacked. After the first MD round he started hopping like he could out-jump the explosions. It gave me the evil giggles. The best sniper kills are with a Forge Gun to the butt at ten meters. The rag-doll is hilariously undignified. I channel my sniper hate into productive killing. Snipers do a good job keeping me from using the high ground effectively. Many a game I would have rained terror down below with MD or FG if not for a meddling sniper. Forums > Game: So here is a cookie and a Like. Please keep posting. Bwahahahahahahahahahaha! >>> GòÜ(GÇóGîéGÇó)Gò¥ >>>
Henrietta Unknown Sooper Speshul Ponee Fors Dropsuit Samurai 169	Posted - 2014.04.23 23:05:00 - [20] - Quote Nova Knives > Charged Sniper Forge Gun > Charged Sniper. I know this because I got him twice in the same spot. Who snipes from the spot where they last died?

Sourdough Muffins Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 247	Posted - 2014.04.23 23:07:00 - [21] - Quote I love Snipers! Especially when they are dead at my feet. I don't care how far back behind the redline you are. If I can figure out where you are I will kamikaze a protosuit stacked with KinCats if I have to to kill you and your Thales.
Cyzad4 Blackfish Corp. 292	Posted - 2014.04.23 23:10:00 - [22] - Quote Henrietta Unknown wrote: Lol, at least I park over an objective so there's more incentive. Sniping is legit when you're covering the only objective your entire team possesses from a near endless barrage of assaults, heavies, and infiltrating scouts. I use ADV tier rifles. Then comes the three MLT snipers that have had quite enough of the shenanigans, but all three crouch in obvious, exposed places and deserved to get headshotted. I pretty much never snipe anymore but when I see a whole squad of morons sitting on a hill I just cant help myself. The only thing that gives me more pleasure than head shots to bad snipers is blasting ds's and hav's to pieces while they're trying to run away. Welcome to you're "DOOM"
Waiyu Ren Amarr Empire 156	Posted - 2014.04.23 23:43:00 - [23] - Quote Sourdough Muffins wrote: I love Snipers! Especially when they are dead at my feet. I don't care how far back behind the redline you are. If I can figure out where you are I will kamikaze a protosuit stacked with KinCats if I have to to kill you and your Thales. Not every sniper uses a Thale, but if you still make that much of an effort to come say hi, my hat is off to you good sir. It's borked mate.
KING CHECKMATE Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 5194	Posted - 2014.04.23 23:45:00 - [24] - Quote True sniper hate comes from RED LINE SNIPERS, where the only counter is ANOTEHR sniper or a tank. Remove RED LINE SNIPING and snipers can do whetever they want without getting hate. But hitting me with a thales sniper rifle , 250mts BEHIND the red line is just WRONG. Like drones? = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=153604&find=unread
Scheneighnay McBob Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 4903	Posted - 2014.04.23 23:52:00 - [25] - Quote The usefulness of a sniper depends on where they are. As a general rule of thumb, the safer the sniper perch is, the less useful it is, up until a certain point (AKA sniping at combat rifle range) where it becomes less useful again. The vast majority of snipers are useless, because snipers are usually the people who put KDR before winning or actual effectiveness. There are exceptions (yours truly), but they're rare. I'm from the weird side of the internet
HOWDIDHEKILLME Dying to Reload 21	Posted - 2014.04.24 00:20:00 - [26] - Quote My favorite is standing behind them then calling in a jeep to flatten them... Then I drive back to the OBJCTIVES. Lonewolf till I die
Denchlad 7 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 170	Posted - 2014.04.24 00:37:00 - [27] - Quote Giving a Thaler a quick one-bang headshot onto his horribly fit quite clearly damage modded Proto Logi is rather satisfying. If I see Thales in the kill feed I will literally stop what im dying and switch to a sniper to kill their ass. Feasting off the corpse of the butthurt! \o/ Was attempting to proto every weapon a bad idea? Yes. 12 so far If you can't accept change, you will fail in this world
Henrietta Unknown Sooper Speshul Ponee Fors Dropsuit Samurai 172	Posted - 2014.04.24 00:49:00 - [28] - Quote Heh heh, I have some 20 Thales across alts that I won't use because skillz. Not one on my sniper main. Player market, where art thou?
Gaurdian Satyr Glitched Connection 186	Posted - 2014.04.24 02:05:00 - [29] - Quote Henrietta Unknown wrote: Nova Knives > Charged Sniper Forge Gun > Charged Sniper. I know this because I got him twice in the same spot. Who snipes from the spot where they last died? Idiot snipers do.....if you even get hit as a sniper you should RELOCATE IMMEDIATLY...plain, simple, intelligent decision...wait alot of dust mercs don't have that -holds arms in O- throw it in the story basket bro
Paul Peacemaker Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 54	Posted - 2014.04.24 15:47:00 - [30] - Quote Sourdough Muffins wrote: I love Snipers! Especially when they are dead at my feet. I don't care how far back behind the redline you are. If I can figure out where you are I will kamikaze a protosuit stacked with KinCats if I have to to kill you and your Thales. High Five. I have empty dropships just for these occasions. When a Thale sniper is too annoying to my team, I jump into one of the dropships and drop it on their heads. I think that the money loss is totally worth it in this case. I am not the only one that does this. I remember trying to get this one sniper, in my cheap suits, and there I see a friendly dropship near the sniper. And a heavy suit jumps out of that dropship, the vehicle comes down crashing and exploding while the heavy suit puts half of his magazine into the sniper's face. The ragdoll effect made me laugh so hard that I decided to stay on the red line and die with the heavy. It looked like pure white rage paid him a visit. If you could cut off the limbs in Dust, I'd see meat flying everywhere. He was just as sick of the sniper as I was. It was glorious.

buzzzzzzz killllllllll TRA1LBLAZERS 440	Posted - 2014.04.24 15:57:00 - [31] - Quote what i dont get is why someone takes out a thales 300 meters deep in their redline and gets 5 kills, when i get 20 kills and never die in a militia suit with a basic tac sniping from the enemies redline. if u dont want to lose it, dont use it. when i bring out my thales, its only to countersnipe another thales, or to snipe a DNS squad from their own redline (never lost a thales before either) Dedicated heavy through the hard times, still supporter of A FULL 1.8 respec and MOAR HEAVY WEAPONS!
Leonid Tybalt Inner.Hell 479	Posted - 2014.04.24 16:04:00 - [32] - Quote CRNWLLC wrote: I love it. One of my favorite recurring complaints about snipers is along the lines of, "UR SO DUM Y U NOT B GUD N HELP UR TEEM UR COWWERD". Right--because when I'm on a team that's getting beat worse than Tina Turner, it's way more valuable for me to throw clones down the drain trying to run on the frontline (something I do adequately, at best) than it is for me to get at least a few kills and deny the enemy WP for harvesting my corpse (which, you know, adds to the odds of their calling an orbital, further obliterating out already sad forces). I encourage other snipers to contribute their observations of obfuscated anti-sniper propaganda, and ask our detractors to fling mad sh!t, for it is sunny outside, and I feel ALIVE! I don't hate enemy snipers. What I do hate however are scrub ass cowards on my own team who, as soon as a battle starts to take a bad turn, spawn in some crappy sniper fit and camp in our redline and take useless potshots at the enemy. This of course further harms our war effort in the battle by reducing our sides number of personel doing any actual fighting. At the very least you chickenshits could spawn in some cheap MLT fits and push forwards. But no, you camp the redline and destroy the efforts of the entire team. You suck at this game, by virtue of being lousy teamplayers.
Black SlaverX Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 168	Posted - 2014.04.24 16:07:00 - [33] - Quote CRNWLLC wrote: I love it. One of my favorite recurring complaints about snipers is along the lines of, "UR SO DUM Y U NOT B GUD N HELP UR TEEM UR COWWERD". Right--because when I'm on a team that's getting beat worse than Tina Turner, it's way more valuable for me to throw clones down the drain trying to run on the frontline (something I do adequately, at best) than it is for me to get at least a few kills and deny the enemy WP for harvesting my corpse (which, you know, adds to the odds of their calling an orbital, further obliterating out already sad forces). I encourage other snipers to contribute their observations of obfuscated anti-sniper propaganda, and ask our detractors to fling mad sh!t, for it is sunny outside, and I feel ALIVE! Your range should be reduced to ~ 300-350 meters, then I have no problem with snipers. I have a problem with red-line snipers. Watch your back because I might be there.
CRNWLLC Screwy Rabbit ULC 241	Posted - 2014.04.24 16:13:00 - [34] - Quote Gaurdian Satyr wrote: Henrietta Unknown wrote: Nova Knives > Charged Sniper Forge Gun > Charged Sniper. I know this because I got him twice in the same spot. Who snipes from the spot where they last died? Idiot snipers do.....if you even get hit as a sniper you should RELOCATE IMMEDIATLY...plain, simple, intelligent decision...wait alot of dust mercs don't have that I think it depends on the situation. There are certain spots that offer very wide, clear views of the map, have good cover, are easy to spot, but otherwise a pain to get to. Also, if I'm running a cheap(er) sniper fit and already have 5+ kills from that spot, I'll usually just keep on rolling, since one death is a fair trade for an extra kill or two on top of the 5+. I think the better reason to move is because there aren't any targets--being willing to hold down a good spot that offers a wide range of targets to pick from and a good view of objectives is a sign of a baller sniper. I'm not afraid to brawl with anyone that tries to come at me; it's almost more satisfying to use my SMG to take out the sniper hunters that bring the fight to me. I've found that if I tank the first shot (which I usually do if it's not a Thales/Charge headshot), I can get to cover, rep up, and, thanks to not dying and therefore getting the red arrow indicating what o'clock the shot came from, an 8 time out of 10, pinpoint my counter and take them out. At this point, there's a 50/50 chance they'll either bug out or get desperate/go insane from rage--in either case, the ball is in my court. Just gotta keep scanning any openings where the counter might try to take you out from another angle. This, too, is a great way to get some extra kills if you're familiar with the maps, since plenty of countersnipers will try to take you out from another angle(s) that you may already be familiar with. In my experience, countersnipers (in whatever form) are not usually a huge threat. For this reason, I think it can be completely sensible to stick around after taking a hit. However, getting killed is a different story. You hit me once, shame on you. You kill me and I come back, shame on me. My other dropsuit is a Python.
CRNWLLC Screwy Rabbit ULC 241	Posted - 2014.04.24 16:15:00 - [35] - Quote Sourdough Muffins wrote: I love Snipers! Especially when they are dead at my feet. I don't care how far back behind the redline you are. If I can figure out where you are I will kamikaze a protosuit stacked with KinCats if I have to to kill you and your Thales. That's the go-getter attitude I like to hear! Not this, "Boo hoo, sniperz iz invincibawlz!!!!" My other dropsuit is a Python.
boba's fetta Dead Man's Game 545	Posted - 2014.04.24 16:20:00 - [36] - Quote i love snipers they all think they are safe. right till i get behind them with my amarr sentinal and hmg. melee them in the back of the head so they turn around and then i make them dance while they try to hose me down with a smg. and why on earth would anyone respect someone who sits in the redline and doesnt help the team. now thats fixed can i haz a trade window?
Onesimus Tarsus 703rd Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 1937	Posted - 2014.04.24 16:37:00 - [37] - Quote boba's fetta wrote: i love snipers they all think they are safe. right till i get behind them with my amarr sentinal and hmg. melee them in the back of the head so they turn around and then i make them dance while they try to hose me down with a smg. and why on earth would anyone respect someone who sits in the redline and doesnt help the team. What are you doing wandering around the redline looking for UP loserpipes when you could be capping and holding objectives? Yet another way snipers sap this game of its fun and function. 1.9 forum warrior. SMG wielder. Mama's boy. I'm right, you're wrong. Adjust.
CRNWLLC Screwy Rabbit ULC 241	Posted - 2014.04.24 16:46:00 - [38] - Quote Onesimus Tarsus wrote: boba's fetta wrote: i love snipers they all think they are safe. right till i get behind them with my amarr sentinal and hmg. melee them in the back of the head so they turn around and then i make them dance while they try to hose me down with a smg. and why on earth would anyone respect someone who sits in the redline and doesnt help the team. What are you doing wandering around the redline looking for UP loserpipes when you could be capping and holding objectives? Yet another way snipers sap this game of its fun and function. Yet another facet of a sniper's tactical value, written off as making the game unenjoyable. So, you're saying snipers can act as effective decoys, diverting the opposition's attention, potentially drawing them away from objectives, and either way improving their team's strategic position? Sounds like a terribly boring, useless thing for a sniper to do. What sniper could have fun or function doing so? EDIT: I love this: a sniper hater hating a sniper lover for dealing with snipers the wrong way. My other dropsuit is a Python.
Onesimus Tarsus 703rd Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 1937	Posted - 2014.04.24 16:55:00 - [39] - Quote CRNWLLC wrote: Onesimus Tarsus wrote: boba's fetta wrote: i love snipers they all think they are safe. right till i get behind them with my amarr sentinal and hmg. melee them in the back of the head so they turn around and then i make them dance while they try to hose me down with a smg. and why on earth would anyone respect someone who sits in the redline and doesnt help the team. What are you doing wandering around the redline looking for UP loserpipes when you could be capping and holding objectives? Yet another way snipers sap this game of its fun and function. Yet another facet of a sniper's tactical value, written off as making the game unenjoyable. So, you're saying snipers can act as effective decoys, diverting the opposition's attention, potentially drawing them away from objectives, and either way improving their team's strategic position? Sounds like a terribly boring, useless thing for a sniper to do. What sniper could have fun or function doing so? EDIT: I love this: a sniper hater hating a sniper lover for dealing with snipers the wrong way. Snipers are the DUST equivalent of paperwork/laundry. Sure, someone's gotta do it, and it's always going to be there, and occasionally someone has some maladjusted fun doing so, but let's not confuse it with real fun. 1.9 forum warrior. SMG wielder. Mama's boy. I'm right, you're wrong. Adjust.
Altus Nox HELLRAIZERZ 34	Posted - 2014.04.24 17:16:00 - [40] - Quote Ah snipers. Besides the very rare HAV kill they are my favorite thing to destroy. I do play with a few good ones though who do have an effect on battles. Yesterday I snuck up onto the enemies redline just below a ridge in a militia sniper suit. Just slowly popped up and down along the rise moving back and forth between kills. 8 snipers dead, six head shots, 2 proto kills all with a militia. The tunnel visions scrub snipers get is ridiculous. My other anti-sniper tactic tends to have me suicide more but there is no other rush like popping up behind a sniper nest unnoticed. I slap on a militia Min light suit, militia damps, breach scrambler and a grenade. POP, POP, POP with the barrel touching their heads. "Hey Guys, Snipers are dead! HAHAHAHAHA" Gotta find those good moments to keep you playing this game. -Nox -Omnes una manet Nox (The same night awaits us all)



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