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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Dirt Nap Squad.
8750
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Posted - 2014.04.21 22:20:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Let the gallente mourn their pistol, ye selfish Amarrians. And their PC, their AR,the TAC,the Breach AR, the BURST AR, their active scanners,there OP logis.... Mourn mourn.
That's all we do tbh.
Except for Kirk, he kicks ass with everything.
Overlord of all humans CAT MERC
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KING CHECKMATE
Heaven's Lost Property
Dirt Nap Squad.
5171
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Posted - 2014.04.21 22:21:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Let the gallente mourn their pistol, ye selfish Amarrians. And their PC, their AR,the TAC,the Breach AR, the BURST AR, their active scanners,there OP logis.... Mourn mourn. That's all we do tbh. Except for Kirk, he kicks ass with everything.
I've only squaded up with him once. I can say he is a true Adept of Gallentean Tech.
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KING CHECKMATE
Heaven's Lost Property
Dirt Nap Squad.
5171
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Posted - 2014.04.21 22:23:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:*cries quietly*
I took this thing to prof 5 guys. It's ok, I'm at prof 3 :( Bless you fellow Gallentean. I want to squad with you someday, btw. I could swear you were amarrian Arkena. WTH....I need some sleep... I'm an SCR aficionado in my spare time with a soft spot for the Amarr, but I'm primarily Gallentean. Of course, the beauty of our culture is that we're entirely free to have such beliefs. 
Heh, i am Amarrian with a soft spot For Gallentean tech. :3
The beauty of our culture is that we dont have to make mistakes while ''choosing''. When there is only One, then there is no wrong.When you have options, chances are ,you'll be incorrect.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
12553
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Posted - 2014.04.21 22:25:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Cat Merc wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Let the gallente mourn their pistol, ye selfish Amarrians. And their PC, their AR,the TAC,the Breach AR, the BURST AR, their active scanners,there OP logis.... Mourn mourn. That's all we do tbh. Except for Kirk, he kicks ass with everything. I've only squaded up with him once. I can say he is a true Adept of Gallentean Tech.
I'd never actually seen someone clear a room of heavies with an ion pistol before squadding with Kirk.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
EUrobro
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Lokun Listamenn
3092
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Posted - 2014.04.21 22:27:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:*cries quietly*
I took this thing to prof 5 guys. It's ok, I'm at prof 3 :( Bless you fellow Gallentean. I want to squad with you someday, btw.
Prepare to be disappointed.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
12554
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Posted - 2014.04.21 22:29:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:*cries quietly*
I took this thing to prof 5 guys. It's ok, I'm at prof 3 :( Bless you fellow Gallentean. I want to squad with you someday, btw. Prepare to be disappointed.
Entirely forgiveable if you're using Gallente tech. ::)
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
EUrobro
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Sad Heavy
Eternal Beings
Proficiency V.
70
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Posted - 2014.04.21 22:46:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Let the gallente mourn their pistol, ye selfish Amarrians.
Yes they should mourn their pistol, my BP is so much better 
Scrubby Python Pilot, Corp Chat Troll, Elite Scrub, Caldari Loyalist
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Marlin Kirby
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
397
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Posted - 2014.04.21 22:47:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Dexter307 wrote:The ion pistol should have the highest dps of the pistols
For single shots either remove the firecap or increase the damage to 65 at standard
For the charged shot either remove overheating or increase damage to 500 I'm sorry sir but you're using logic. CCP uses what's called "CCP Logic", it's in complete reverse to normal logic.
I still don't like the idea of a OSK pistol.
The pistol sucks, but I want want it to kill me in one hit.
The not Logic Bomb!
-->We need better comms!<--
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Cyrius Li-Moody
0uter.Heaven
4956
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Posted - 2014.04.21 22:48:00 -
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Marlin Kirby wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Dexter307 wrote:The ion pistol should have the highest dps of the pistols
For single shots either remove the firecap or increase the damage to 65 at standard
For the charged shot either remove overheating or increase damage to 500 I'm sorry sir but you're using logic. CCP uses what's called "CCP Logic", it's in complete reverse to normal logic. I still don't like the idea of a OSK pistol. The pistol sucks, but I want want it to kill me in one hit.
Breach scrambler. OHK headshots for all.
Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
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BL4CKST4R
WarRavens
League of Infamy
2554
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Posted - 2014.04.21 22:48:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Dexter307 wrote:The ion pistol should have the highest dps of the pistols
For single shots either remove the firecap or increase the damage to 65 at standard
For the charged shot either remove overheating or increase damage to 500 I'm sorry sir but you're using logic. CCP uses what's called "CCP Logic", it's in complete reverse to normal logic.
It seems to me that this phenomenon is called Logicloop
For the Federation!
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
1419
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Posted - 2014.04.21 23:31:00 -
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Marlin Kirby wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Dexter307 wrote:The ion pistol should have the highest dps of the pistols
For single shots either remove the firecap or increase the damage to 65 at standard
For the charged shot either remove overheating or increase damage to 500 I'm sorry sir but you're using logic. CCP uses what's called "CCP Logic", it's in complete reverse to normal logic. I still don't like the idea of a OSK pistol. The pistol sucks, but I want want it to kill me in one hit.
We already have osk pistols |
THUNDERGROOVE
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
708
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Posted - 2014.04.22 00:37:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Correct, the only thing holding the shotgun back from a full not sucking is it's hit detection.
So... gallente are almost close to a fully functional weapon.
Honestly though, if you used the shotgun around 1.1-1.4(?) when the hit detection was ~10X worse it feels amazing.
Been keeping track of my average kill death ratio when using shotguns vs. knives/SMG vs. rifles and my shotgunning fits always do me better. The knives are too fun to stop using though 
Running at 10.6 m/s ak.0
Projects: TDBS | SDETool
ScrubzBScrubz
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
General Tso's Alliance
5939
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Posted - 2014.04.22 00:40:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:*cries quietly*
I took this thing to prof 5 guys. Look at it like this... in like 6 months when it doesn't suck you'll be set.
This is what you said about the flaylock lol.
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 5
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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Marlin Kirby
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
398
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Posted - 2014.04.22 00:55:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Marlin Kirby wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Dexter307 wrote:The ion pistol should have the highest dps of the pistols
For single shots either remove the firecap or increase the damage to 65 at standard
For the charged shot either remove overheating or increase damage to 500 I'm sorry sir but you're using logic. CCP uses what's called "CCP Logic", it's in complete reverse to normal logic. I still don't like the idea of a OSK pistol. The pistol sucks, but I want want it to kill me in one hit. Breach scrambler. OHK headshots for all.
Landing a charged shot is much easier than a headshot in this game.
The not Logic Bomb!
-->We need better comms!<--
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
1419
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Posted - 2014.04.22 01:30:00 -
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Marlin Kirby wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Marlin Kirby wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Dexter307 wrote:The ion pistol should have the highest dps of the pistols
For single shots either remove the firecap or increase the damage to 65 at standard
For the charged shot either remove overheating or increase damage to 500 I'm sorry sir but you're using logic. CCP uses what's called "CCP Logic", it's in complete reverse to normal logic. I still don't like the idea of a OSK pistol. The pistol sucks, but I want want it to kill me in one hit. Breach scrambler. OHK headshots for all. Landing a charged shot is much easier than a headshot in this game.
You have to be much closer though and you cant miss or you will overheat, unlike with the breach where you can just keep shooting |
Fire of Prometheus
Alpha Response Command
4319
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Posted - 2014.04.22 01:37:00 -
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Dog snoring is OP
Please nerf
Alpha Response Command (ALREC)
The premier training corp for commandos.
Apply today!
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Cyrius Li-Moody
0uter.Heaven
4965
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Posted - 2014.04.22 01:51:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:*cries quietly*
I took this thing to prof 5 guys. Look at it like this... in like 6 months when it doesn't suck you'll be set. This is what you said about the flaylock lol.
It's my go to statement for terrible weapons.
Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
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Galthur
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
465
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Posted - 2014.04.22 01:52:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:*cries quietly*
I took this thing to prof 5 guys. Look at it like this... in like 6 months when it doesn't suck you'll be set.
I was told the same by Caldari/Amaar about the PLC
IRC guest keeps thinking I'm Obiwan
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Cyrius Li-Moody
0uter.Heaven
4965
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Posted - 2014.04.22 01:56:00 -
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Galthur wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:*cries quietly*
I took this thing to prof 5 guys. Look at it like this... in like 6 months when it doesn't suck you'll be set. I was told the same by Caldari/Amaar about the PLC
Look at it like this... In like 6 months when it doesn't suck you'll be set. 
Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
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Marlin Kirby
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
398
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Posted - 2014.04.22 02:01:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:Marlin Kirby wrote:Landing a charged shot is much easier than a headshot in this game. You have to be much closer though and you cant miss or you will overheat, unlike with the breach where you can just keep shooting
True, but that only applies if that player shooting is actively trying to get a headshot. Not to mention that the breach pistol is slower than the bolt pistol, where as an (balanced) ion pistol has options.
Buffing the hip-fire, damage, and maybe recoil are a given, but the charge shot needs careful tweaking.
The not Logic Bomb!
-->We need better comms!<--
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
1421
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Posted - 2014.04.22 02:50:00 -
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Marlin Kirby wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Marlin Kirby wrote:Landing a charged shot is much easier than a headshot in this game. You have to be much closer though and you cant miss or you will overheat, unlike with the breach where you can just keep shooting True, but that only applies if that player shooting is actively trying to get a headshot. Not to mention that the breach pistol is slower than the bolt pistol, where as an (balanced) ion pistol has options. Buffing the hip-fire, damage, and maybe recoil are a given, but the charge shot needs careful tweaking.
The breach shoots faster than the bolt
The charge shot needs big changes. If damage isnt changed then overheat needs to be removed completely. |
Talos Alomar
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2180
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Posted - 2014.04.22 02:52:00 -
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I tried using the IoP a couple matches. I'd say your review hits all my thoughts on that weapon on the head.
It has literally no redeeming qualities. The lowest range AND almost the lowest DPS?
With the crap range then they force you to use the terribad hipfire, thus ensuring you can't even hit the target. Not that you'd be able to kill it anyway.
I'd say up base damage by 1/3 and mag capacity by 1/2 while tightening hipfire dispersion a great deal.
the charge shot needs work, too. It should be powerful enough that you should think very hard about following whoever is using it around the corner but not so strong as to be able to OHK an undamaged suit.
Gallente weapons should be able to be the go-to choice for CQC combat. The fact that they are consistently outperformed by every other race at every range is disconcerting.
Shape without form, shade without colour,
Paralysed force, gesture without motion;
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Marlin Kirby
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
398
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Posted - 2014.04.22 02:59:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:Marlin Kirby wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Marlin Kirby wrote:Landing a charged shot is much easier than a headshot in this game. You have to be much closer though and you cant miss or you will overheat, unlike with the breach where you can just keep shooting True, but that only applies if that player shooting is actively trying to get a headshot. Not to mention that the breach pistol is slower than the bolt pistol, where as an (balanced) ion pistol has options. Buffing the hip-fire, damage, and maybe recoil are a given, but the charge shot needs careful tweaking. The breach shoots faster than the bolt The charge shot needs big changes. If damage isnt changed then overheat needs to be removed completely.
You're wrong, but the bolt does have fewer rounds per mag.
Breach RPM: 133.33
Bolt RPM: 150
Removing the seize time is an interesting idea, assuming the damaged isn't increased at all. I'll have to ponder on that.
The not Logic Bomb!
-->We need better comms!<--
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Adelia Lafayette
Science For Death
775
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Posted - 2014.04.22 03:00:00 -
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looks like an awesome gun if it didn't seize up on the charge. otherwise no good
Assault dropship gets blown up....
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
1421
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Posted - 2014.04.22 03:02:00 -
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Marlin Kirby wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Marlin Kirby wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Marlin Kirby wrote:Landing a charged shot is much easier than a headshot in this game. You have to be much closer though and you cant miss or you will overheat, unlike with the breach where you can just keep shooting True, but that only applies if that player shooting is actively trying to get a headshot. Not to mention that the breach pistol is slower than the bolt pistol, where as an (balanced) ion pistol has options. Buffing the hip-fire, damage, and maybe recoil are a given, but the charge shot needs careful tweaking. The breach shoots faster than the bolt The charge shot needs big changes. If damage isnt changed then overheat needs to be removed completely. Derp, but the bolt does have fewer rounds per mag. Breach RPM: Bolt RPM: 150 Removing the seize time is an interesting idea, assuming the damaged isn't increased at all. I'll have to ponder on that.
Bolt pistol shoots at 92.3 RPM. you have to factor in the charge time. |
Marlin Kirby
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
398
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Posted - 2014.04.22 03:09:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:Marlin Kirby wrote:Derp, but the bolt does have fewer rounds per mag.
Breach RPM:
Bolt RPM: 150
Removing the seize time is an interesting idea, assuming the damaged isn't increased at all. I'll have to ponder on that. Bolt pistol shoots at 92.3 RPM. you have to factor in the charge time.
Where did you get that number? And charge time shouldn't be factored into RPM. It artificially increases reaction time, it doesn't decrease rate of fire.
I want note that the "derp" was an edit by me thinking that I recorded the wrong stat only for me to triple check to see I was right all along, disregarding charge time that is.
The not Logic Bomb!
-->We need better comms!<--
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
1424
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Posted - 2014.04.22 03:13:00 -
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Marlin Kirby wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Marlin Kirby wrote:Derp, but the bolt does have fewer rounds per mag.
Breach RPM:
Bolt RPM: 150
Removing the seize time is an interesting idea, assuming the damaged isn't increased at all. I'll have to ponder on that. Bolt pistol shoots at 92.3 RPM. you have to factor in the charge time. Where did you get that number? And charge time shouldn't be factored into RPM. It increases reaction time, is doesn't decrease rate of fire. I want note that the "derp" was an edit by me thinking that I recorded the wrong stat only for me to triple check to see I was right along disregarding charge time.
Because you have to charge before each shot
Default time between shots is .4 seconds. Charge time before each shot is .25 seconds
Total Time between shots is .65 seconds
60/.65=92.3 |
Tectonic Fusion
1517
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Posted - 2014.04.22 03:14:00 -
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The AR is a good weapon guys. It's just underpowered compared to the combat rifle. It's also more of a strafe weapon for newbs to use if they want something easy to use and like to have a lot of ammo. That's a bad thing though...
Solo Player
Squad status: Locked
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
1424
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Posted - 2014.04.22 03:16:00 -
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Tectonic Fusion wrote:The AR is a good weapon guys. It's just underpowered compared to the combat rifle. It's also more of a strafe weapon for newbs to use if they want something easy to use and like to have a lot of ammo. That's a bad thing though...
The combat rifle makes everything underpowered |
Marlin Kirby
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
399
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Posted - 2014.04.22 03:41:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:Marlin Kirby wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Bolt pistol shoots at 92.3 RPM. you have to factor in the charge time. Where did you get that number? And charge time shouldn't be factored into RPM. It increases reaction time, is doesn't decrease rate of fire. Because you have to charge before each shot Default time between shots is .4 seconds. Charge time before each shot is .25 seconds Total Time between shots is .65 seconds 60/.65=92.3
- Your numbers match gameplay and given numbers don't
- I never bothered to check
- CCP numbers are bull ****
The not Logic Bomb!
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