DUST Search - Cyrius Li Moody Ion Pistol review

Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:

Dexter307 wrote:

Monkey MAC wrote:

Dexter307 wrote:

The ion pistol should have the highest dps of the pistols
For single shots either remove the firecap or increase the damage to 65 at standard
For the charged shot either remove overheating or increase damage to 500

Remove the ROF cap?
Has the TACAR, CR, Melee Glitch, AR not taught you anything?

1) Give an absolute range beyond the effective, bullets disapearing (no matter how weak) is annoying
2) Buff dmg of standard shot by 7
3) Increase mag capacity to 21 (same as burst scrambler pistol)
4) reduce spread by 25%
5) Increase overcharge shot to 550, include a 200% headshot modifier on the charge shot only
6) Increase max ammo capacity to give 3 full mags
7) Increase the bass frequencies for the sound of the weapon.

Done
Personally I do really like the Ion Pistol, but you can't deny it's a little lack luster at points.

Considering its low DMG no firecap would be fine.
The burst scrambler has a 24 round mag btw, 29 with skills maxed.

'No firecap' is excessive, very much so. But it'd be nice if it had a RoF high enough to be able to comfortably shoot it whilst not being too vulnerable to modded controllers - something along the lines of 500 RPM.

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Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 2937	Posted - 2014.04.22 03:45:00 - [61] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: Let the gallente mourn their pistol, ye selfish Amarrians. And their PC, their AR,the TAC,the Breach AR, the BURST AR, their active scanners,there OP logis.... Mourn mourn. That's all we do tbh. Except for Kirk, he kicks ass with everything. That dude put me to shame in a PLC commando fit. Its alright everyone, no need to worry it's just an Amarr scout :(
Oswald Rehnquist 1338	Posted - 2014.04.22 04:28:00 - [62] - Quote I use both the Ion and the Bolt First, I want to state that its Moody > Oswald by far, and the Ion does need to be fixed, no argument there, in fact I wouldn't mind various buff to the other pistols to put it up to smg/scp levels to have some parity. But in the video he uses the ion pistol in a manner that is very consistent to bolt pistol play (minus 10-20m), which I find to be less successful than if used as a shotgun. the Ions shortcomings throws its effectiveness in shotgun range 5-10m with 6-10 shots followed by a charge (charge shots are always your last shot), though like the bolt flanking really benefits this weapon (I'm captain obvious I know), a head shot charge shot is required. Which means as stated earlier shotgun tactics are thy best way to use the pistol. Using the weapon solo, 400-650 ehp is the range where it has success the higher numbers is assuming if the target is more shield heavy, anything higher and you are going to need a follow up weapon to clean up (thus not using the charge shot). Also you can't juggle as many opponents like the shotgun can, you are limited to 1-2 players at a time. I don't have all the skills into the ion pistol so I don't know how the dispersion feels after the points, but I have a feeling it would still need a boost in accuracy to at least make better use of its 20 range (if the ar can be accurate why not the Ion?). Also instead of a seize I think the gun should consume points in ammunition, so a charge shot takes like 4-6 bullets. The lack of seize would immensely boost its dps potential along with its synergy with other weapons. Below 28 dB
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1428	Posted - 2014.04.22 05:59:00 - [63] - Quote Bump
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 2382	Posted - 2014.04.22 06:46:00 - [64] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: cries quietly I took this thing to prof 5 guys. Look at it like this... in like 6 months when it doesn't suck you'll be set. Like the plasma cannon you mean? PLC broken anniversary at 5/14/2014. HTFU Gë£ Live with CCP´s mistakes.
Gelan Corbaine Gladiators Vanguard 396	Posted - 2014.04.22 08:59:00 - [65] - Quote I feel for you my Gallente brothers and sisters mercs.... looks at his Flaylock and sighs. We Minnies know what it's like when your pistol isn't quite up to par . (Yes I know we knew what it was also like to have the power of GOD in our hands but still !) No job is worth doing if you don't get paid in the end .
Faquira Bleuetta Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 330	Posted - 2014.04.22 09:04:00 - [66] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ck0b0_3cW9c Spot on. "If you're looking for a good challenge, use a Gallente weapon" - Moody 2014 ccp moron remark after looking at ur video-½ meh this guy sux he dont how to use **** pistol correctly blahblah will not buff ion pistol too much work , more importing to do right now like adding 99 % discount on the ion pistol arent u happy consumer we give luv you big hug can i haz ur money......... -+
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 8797	Posted - 2014.04.22 10:14:00 - [67] - Quote Talos Alomar wrote: I tried using the IoP a couple matches. I'd say your review hits all my thoughts on that weapon on the head. It has literally no redeeming qualities. The lowest range AND almost the lowest DPS? With the crap range then they force you to use the terribad hipfire, thus ensuring you can't even hit the target. Not that you'd be able to kill it anyway. I'd say up base damage by 1/3 and mag capacity by 1/2 while tightening hipfire dispersion a great deal. the charge shot needs work, too. It should be powerful enough that you should think very hard about following whoever is using it around the corner but not so strong as to be able to OHK an undamaged suit. Gallente weapons should be able to be the go-to choice for CQC combat. The fact that they are consistently outperformed by every other race at every range is disconcerting. CCP seems to not know how to balance long range weaponry. Bolt Pistol is the only one they got right. Overlord of all humans CAT MERC
BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 2561	Posted - 2014.04.22 10:21:00 - [68] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Talos Alomar wrote: I tried using the IoP a couple matches. I'd say your review hits all my thoughts on that weapon on the head. It has literally no redeeming qualities. The lowest range AND almost the lowest DPS? With the crap range then they force you to use the terribad hipfire, thus ensuring you can't even hit the target. Not that you'd be able to kill it anyway. I'd say up base damage by 1/3 and mag capacity by 1/2 while tightening hipfire dispersion a great deal. the charge shot needs work, too. It should be powerful enough that you should think very hard about following whoever is using it around the corner but not so strong as to be able to OHK an undamaged suit. Gallente weapons should be able to be the go-to choice for CQC combat. The fact that they are consistently outperformed by every other race at every range is disconcerting. CCP seems to not know how to balance long range weaponry. Bolt Pistol is the only one they got right. Or they don't know how to balance short range ::o, as long as the ion pistol remains at the state it is in, this will be 100% undeniable proof that CCP cannot balance. I honestly do not think that Gallente weapons will ever be up to par. For the Federation!
Je-NOVA ZionTCD 16	Posted - 2014.04.22 10:33:00 - [69] - Quote That suggestion to add burn damage to the plc would probably help the ion pistol stand out more. doing 50 damage per shot with 12 in a clip is pretty sad. I would increase clip size to like 17 or maybe even 24 and allow you to do up to 2 consecutive charge shots. The gun will cool down at a much slower rate if you're holding down the charge. This would also keep the gun from randomly seizing up when you're not even going for a charge shot (I seriously didn't expect it to just fill up when you do a fraction of a charge). I love how ccp can make long range weapons so consistent and powerful, but make all the short range gallente offerings have bad hit detection, accuracy, range, and lowest dps. The gallente heavy weapon will probably be a human cannon you have to stuff your foe into before you can fire.
Flyingconejo KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 837	Posted - 2014.04.22 11:00:00 - [70] - Quote Completely unrelated, Cyrius is my favourite Dust youtuber. Just to give him some credit.

Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 2607	Posted - 2014.04.22 11:20:00 - [71] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: The ion pistol should have the highest dps of the pistols For single shots either remove the firecap or increase the damage to 65 at standard For the charged shot either remove overheating or increase damage to 500 Remove the ROF cap? Has the TACAR, CR, Melee Glitch, AR not taught you anything? 1) Give an absolute range beyond the effective, bullets disapearing (no matter how weak) is annoying 2) Buff dmg of standard shot by 7 3) Increase mag capacity to 21 (same as burst scrambler pistol) 4) reduce spread by 25% 5) Increase overcharge shot to 550, include a 200% headshot modifier on the charge shot only 6) Increase max ammo capacity to give 3 full mags 7) Increase the bass frequencies for the sound of the weapon. Done Personally I do really like the Ion Pistol, but you can't deny it's a little lack luster at points. Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 12588	Posted - 2014.04.22 12:15:00 - [72] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: 7) Increase the bass frequencies for the sound of the weapon. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. EUrobro
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1435	Posted - 2014.04.22 12:18:00 - [73] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Dexter307 wrote: The ion pistol should have the highest dps of the pistols For single shots either remove the firecap or increase the damage to 65 at standard For the charged shot either remove overheating or increase damage to 500 Remove the ROF cap? Has the TACAR, CR, Melee Glitch, AR not taught you anything? 1) Give an absolute range beyond the effective, bullets disapearing (no matter how weak) is annoying 2) Buff dmg of standard shot by 7 3) Increase mag capacity to 21 (same as burst scrambler pistol) 4) reduce spread by 25% 5) Increase overcharge shot to 550, include a 200% headshot modifier on the charge shot only 6) Increase max ammo capacity to give 3 full mags 7) Increase the bass frequencies for the sound of the weapon. Done Personally I do really like the Ion Pistol, but you can't deny it's a little lack luster at points. Considering its low DMG no firecap would be fine. The burst scrambler has a 24 round mag btw, 29 with skills maxed.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 12588	Posted - 2014.04.22 12:19:00 - [74] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Dexter307 wrote: The ion pistol should have the highest dps of the pistols For single shots either remove the firecap or increase the damage to 65 at standard For the charged shot either remove overheating or increase damage to 500 Remove the ROF cap? Has the TACAR, CR, Melee Glitch, AR not taught you anything? 1) Give an absolute range beyond the effective, bullets disapearing (no matter how weak) is annoying 2) Buff dmg of standard shot by 7 3) Increase mag capacity to 21 (same as burst scrambler pistol) 4) reduce spread by 25% 5) Increase overcharge shot to 550, include a 200% headshot modifier on the charge shot only 6) Increase max ammo capacity to give 3 full mags 7) Increase the bass frequencies for the sound of the weapon. Done Personally I do really like the Ion Pistol, but you can't deny it's a little lack luster at points. Considering its low DMG no firecap would be fine. The burst scrambler has a 24 round mag btw, 29 with skills maxed. 'No firecap' is excessive, very much so. But it'd be nice if it had a RoF high enough to be able to comfortably shoot it whilst not being too vulnerable to modded controllers - something along the lines of 500 RPM. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. EUrobro
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1435	Posted - 2014.04.22 12:23:00 - [75] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Dexter307 wrote: The ion pistol should have the highest dps of the pistols For single shots either remove the firecap or increase the damage to 65 at standard For the charged shot either remove overheating or increase damage to 500 Remove the ROF cap? Has the TACAR, CR, Melee Glitch, AR not taught you anything? 1) Give an absolute range beyond the effective, bullets disapearing (no matter how weak) is annoying 2) Buff dmg of standard shot by 7 3) Increase mag capacity to 21 (same as burst scrambler pistol) 4) reduce spread by 25% 5) Increase overcharge shot to 550, include a 200% headshot modifier on the charge shot only 6) Increase max ammo capacity to give 3 full mags 7) Increase the bass frequencies for the sound of the weapon. Done Personally I do really like the Ion Pistol, but you can't deny it's a little lack luster at points. Considering its low DMG no firecap would be fine. The burst scrambler has a 24 round mag btw, 29 with skills maxed. 'No firecap' is excessive, very much so. But it'd be nice if it had a RoF high enough to be able to comfortably shoot it whilst not being too vulnerable to modded controllers - something along the lines of 500 RPM. 500 RPM would be nice.
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1438	Posted - 2014.04.22 14:48:00 - [76] - Quote Bump


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