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Dexter307
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Posted - 2014.04.21 21:19:00 -
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The ion pistol should have the highest dps of the pistols
For single shots either remove the firecap or increase the damage to 65 at standard
For the charged shot either remove overheating or increase damage to 500 |
Dexter307
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Posted - 2014.04.21 21:28:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Dexter307 wrote:The ion pistol should have the highest dps of the pistols
For single shots either remove the firecap or increase the damage to 65 at standard
For the charged shot either remove overheating or increase damage to 500 I would like overheating to empty the rest of the magazine instead of oerheating, this way you would still need to stop shootig, but you'll be able to run or switch weapons unlike overheating.
That would use up LOTS of ammo though :( |
Dexter307
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Posted - 2014.04.21 21:48:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Dexter307 wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Dexter307 wrote:The ion pistol should have the highest dps of the pistols
For single shots either remove the firecap or increase the damage to 65 at standard
For the charged shot either remove overheating or increase damage to 500 I would like overheating to empty the rest of the magazine instead of oerheating, this way you would still need to stop shootig, but you'll be able to run or switch weapons unlike overheating. That would use up LOTS of ammo though :( It already has terrible ammo economy :\
But I dont want it to be even worse :(
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Dexter307
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Posted - 2014.04.21 23:31:00 -
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Marlin Kirby wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Dexter307 wrote:The ion pistol should have the highest dps of the pistols
For single shots either remove the firecap or increase the damage to 65 at standard
For the charged shot either remove overheating or increase damage to 500 I'm sorry sir but you're using logic. CCP uses what's called "CCP Logic", it's in complete reverse to normal logic. I still don't like the idea of a OSK pistol. The pistol sucks, but I want want it to kill me in one hit.
We already have osk pistols |
Dexter307
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Posted - 2014.04.22 01:30:00 -
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Marlin Kirby wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Marlin Kirby wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Dexter307 wrote:The ion pistol should have the highest dps of the pistols
For single shots either remove the firecap or increase the damage to 65 at standard
For the charged shot either remove overheating or increase damage to 500 I'm sorry sir but you're using logic. CCP uses what's called "CCP Logic", it's in complete reverse to normal logic. I still don't like the idea of a OSK pistol. The pistol sucks, but I want want it to kill me in one hit. Breach scrambler. OHK headshots for all. Landing a charged shot is much easier than a headshot in this game.
You have to be much closer though and you cant miss or you will overheat, unlike with the breach where you can just keep shooting |
Dexter307
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Posted - 2014.04.22 02:50:00 -
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Marlin Kirby wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Marlin Kirby wrote:Landing a charged shot is much easier than a headshot in this game. You have to be much closer though and you cant miss or you will overheat, unlike with the breach where you can just keep shooting True, but that only applies if that player shooting is actively trying to get a headshot. Not to mention that the breach pistol is slower than the bolt pistol, where as an (balanced) ion pistol has options. Buffing the hip-fire, damage, and maybe recoil are a given, but the charge shot needs careful tweaking.
The breach shoots faster than the bolt
The charge shot needs big changes. If damage isnt changed then overheat needs to be removed completely. |
Dexter307
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Posted - 2014.04.22 03:02:00 -
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Marlin Kirby wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Marlin Kirby wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Marlin Kirby wrote:Landing a charged shot is much easier than a headshot in this game. You have to be much closer though and you cant miss or you will overheat, unlike with the breach where you can just keep shooting True, but that only applies if that player shooting is actively trying to get a headshot. Not to mention that the breach pistol is slower than the bolt pistol, where as an (balanced) ion pistol has options. Buffing the hip-fire, damage, and maybe recoil are a given, but the charge shot needs careful tweaking. The breach shoots faster than the bolt The charge shot needs big changes. If damage isnt changed then overheat needs to be removed completely. Derp, but the bolt does have fewer rounds per mag. Breach RPM: Bolt RPM: 150 Removing the seize time is an interesting idea, assuming the damaged isn't increased at all. I'll have to ponder on that.
Bolt pistol shoots at 92.3 RPM. you have to factor in the charge time. |
Dexter307
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Posted - 2014.04.22 03:13:00 -
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Marlin Kirby wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Marlin Kirby wrote:Derp, but the bolt does have fewer rounds per mag.
Breach RPM:
Bolt RPM: 150
Removing the seize time is an interesting idea, assuming the damaged isn't increased at all. I'll have to ponder on that. Bolt pistol shoots at 92.3 RPM. you have to factor in the charge time. Where did you get that number? And charge time shouldn't be factored into RPM. It increases reaction time, is doesn't decrease rate of fire. I want note that the "derp" was an edit by me thinking that I recorded the wrong stat only for me to triple check to see I was right along disregarding charge time.
Because you have to charge before each shot
Default time between shots is .4 seconds. Charge time before each shot is .25 seconds
Total Time between shots is .65 seconds
60/.65=92.3 |
Dexter307
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Posted - 2014.04.22 03:16:00 -
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Tectonic Fusion wrote:The AR is a good weapon guys. It's just underpowered compared to the combat rifle. It's also more of a strafe weapon for newbs to use if they want something easy to use and like to have a lot of ammo. That's a bad thing though...
The combat rifle makes everything underpowered |
Dexter307
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Posted - 2014.04.22 05:59:00 -
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Dexter307
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Posted - 2014.04.22 12:18:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Dexter307 wrote:The ion pistol should have the highest dps of the pistols
For single shots either remove the firecap or increase the damage to 65 at standard
For the charged shot either remove overheating or increase damage to 500 Remove the ROF cap? Has the TACAR, CR, Melee Glitch, AR not taught you anything? 1) Give an absolute range beyond the effective, bullets disapearing (no matter how weak) is annoying 2) Buff dmg of standard shot by 7 3) Increase mag capacity to 21 (same as burst scrambler pistol) 4) reduce spread by 25% 5) Increase overcharge shot to 550, include a 200% headshot modifier on the charge shot only 6) Increase max ammo capacity to give 3 full mags 7) Increase the bass frequencies for the sound of the weapon. Done Personally I do really like the Ion Pistol, but you can't deny it's a little lack luster at points.
Considering its low DMG no firecap would be fine.
The burst scrambler has a 24 round mag btw, 29 with skills maxed. |
Dexter307
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Posted - 2014.04.22 12:23:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Dexter307 wrote:The ion pistol should have the highest dps of the pistols
For single shots either remove the firecap or increase the damage to 65 at standard
For the charged shot either remove overheating or increase damage to 500 Remove the ROF cap? Has the TACAR, CR, Melee Glitch, AR not taught you anything? 1) Give an absolute range beyond the effective, bullets disapearing (no matter how weak) is annoying 2) Buff dmg of standard shot by 7 3) Increase mag capacity to 21 (same as burst scrambler pistol) 4) reduce spread by 25% 5) Increase overcharge shot to 550, include a 200% headshot modifier on the charge shot only 6) Increase max ammo capacity to give 3 full mags 7) Increase the bass frequencies for the sound of the weapon. Done Personally I do really like the Ion Pistol, but you can't deny it's a little lack luster at points. Considering its low DMG no firecap would be fine. The burst scrambler has a 24 round mag btw, 29 with skills maxed. 'No firecap' is excessive, very much so. But it'd be nice if it had a RoF high enough to be able to comfortably shoot it whilst not being too vulnerable to modded controllers - something along the lines of 500 RPM.
500 RPM would be nice.
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Dexter307
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Posted - 2014.04.22 14:48:00 -
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