DUST Search - How many people here have played less than 5 games in pc?

General John Ripper wrote:

HowDidThatTaste wrote:

This makes me sad for this game. So many of you are missing out on the most competitive side of dust.

Yes there are a lot of problems with PC at the moment, but if you ask anyone who has played with a full 16 of friends/corpmates and had to work together to win a match their is no better dust experience.

Squads working together are fun but a whole group of 16 calling out locations renfrcing each other at the different points, coordinating tank movements with drop ship pilots while attainting high ground. Keeping a close eye on the MCC ticks watching the clone count dwindle into unsafe numbers for a battle to be decided by one tick on the MCC by either side, not knowing who won until that victory screen comes up!

If any of you have not made a serious effort to get involved in these competitive battles you are really missing out on a great side of dust.

As soon as the blue donut comes to an end I'm pretty sure their will be places were equal corps can battler against each other.

Spend this time building your core team and make some alliances with other corps you find along the way. Your time is coming

+1 agreed.

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howard sanchez Sanchez Cartage llc 889	Posted - 2014.04.16 14:48:00 - [61] - Quote General John Ripper wrote: HowDidThatTaste wrote: This makes me sad for this game. So many of you are missing out on the most competitive side of dust. Yes there are a lot of problems with PC at the moment, but if you ask anyone who has played with a full 16 of friends/corpmates and had to work together to win a match their is no better dust experience. Squads working together are fun but a whole group of 16 calling out locations renfrcing each other at the different points, coordinating tank movements with drop ship pilots while attainting high ground. Keeping a close eye on the MCC ticks watching the clone count dwindle into unsafe numbers for a battle to be decided by one tick on the MCC by either side, not knowing who won until that victory screen comes up! If any of you have not made a serious effort to get involved in these competitive battles you are really missing out on a great side of dust. As soon as the blue donut comes to an end I'm pretty sure their will be places were equal corps can battler against each other. Spend this time building your core team and make some alliances with other corps you find along the way. Your time is coming +1 agreed. Both of you have been around dust long enough to appreciate the frustrations most of the p,ayerbase has with the broken parts of the game. What comes through in your posts is the sense of hope and accomplishment involved in a good competition between two hard charging teams. I just don't think that PC delivers on that competitive potential. Do you? I believe that PC, as currently implemented, keeps players away, prevents participation and is wracked by broken mechanics and poorly implemented processes. So, John, did this thread answer your question in the op? What are your interpretations of the collective responses. How do you two think things should change, if at all, to get more players involved in PC?
Zirzo Valcyn Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 432	Posted - 2014.04.16 14:55:00 - [62] - Quote the whole thing just has this cheesey boys club vibe to me. some so called top PC players ripped on me because i said in their chat that i drove a LLAV then when i told them to F themselves they said i do not talk to community elders like that. i LOL'ed because i had been here longer than them. u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll. forum warrior .189
The Attorney General 2574	Posted - 2014.04.16 14:57:00 - [63] - Quote howard sanchez wrote: I just don't think that PC delivers on that competitive potential. Do you? I believe that PC, as currently implemented, keeps players away, prevents participation and is wracked by broken mechanics and poorly implemented processes. Honestly, I can't stand pubs. If I could only PC to cap out, I would only ever play FW for uplinks. PC is the only reason why I even play this game. I honestly don't understand how people can have fun in this game playing pubs. They are boring, repetitive, and largely uncompetitive if you bring a decent squad. I think the reason why so many people are not involved in PC is because this is a free to play game, and a large portion of the people who are still playing are horrible. When they have to face off against the tiny minority of people who have actual competitive urges, they get rolled. Just blame CCP for taking so long to fix the competitive side that the people who could have made it a vibrant scene all left. Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
Poonmunch Sanguis Defense Syndicate 844	Posted - 2014.04.16 15:00:00 - [64] - Quote General John Ripper wrote: I have never seen anyone do an actual role call for this kind of thing before. What I want to do is gain some insight as to how much of this player base is missing out on dust's competitive side. Please say if you are an active pc player or have played more than 5 games of pc or if you have never played a game. Me. Three or four games before we got steamrolled by a big corp with lots of ringers and guys with over 20M SP (when most of us had less than 7M). We have a small corp. We don't have enough time, ISK or people to sustain a long campaign. Munch Minmatar Patriot (Level 7) Dedicated Sniper
Terram Nenokal Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 341	Posted - 2014.04.16 15:02:00 - [65] - Quote I've been in a few PC matches, maybe 50 or so. Loving to hate and hating to love Dust 514 since May 2012
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 2347	Posted - 2014.04.16 15:09:00 - [66] - Quote and DNS wonders why they gte no competition i've only been in 30-40 myself, it might sound like alot but compared to AE's high hundreds. it's not much really.
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 3642	Posted - 2014.04.16 15:13:00 - [67] - Quote 0. But, I'm not a 17 year-old, FotM corp hopper with something to prove, either. I GÖú Kittens.
Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn 1368	Posted - 2014.04.16 15:21:00 - [68] - Quote I've played in more than 5 but I haven't played PC much since Tritan Industries fell apart a couple months into PC. Played a couple PCs with Anonymous. I've never been very enamored with it. PC made the game feel like a second job when I was in a PC active corp. Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
Everything Dies Inner.Hell 650	Posted - 2014.04.16 15:37:00 - [69] - Quote I've played in one match roughly nine months ago. Our corp was generally made up of new players and we were sent into battle against a team of vets and were squashed. I finished first on my team with 450 WP or something like that. Been running solo up until I joined Inner.Hell this week. Doubt I'll ever get back into PC so long as ringers can be used to "purchase" victories. Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit. Eight months has been long enough...guess it's time to learn how to play with a squad.
Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn 1368	Posted - 2014.04.16 15:40:00 - [70] - Quote 1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote: Played more than 5 It's truly heartbreaking seeing so many miss out, I won't add much more to this since Taste already nailed it with his post. Yes PC can be very frustrating often times, but nothing beats deploying with 16 other players where you recognize each and every one of them by voice all fighting together against equally amazing players, I fight nothing but the best this game has to offer and it is truly an amazing experience. I can't stand Pub games they're too monotonous; redline this, redline that. PC is what keeps me playing Dust. Train yourself mentally and physically, spend your SP well and specialize, join a good corporation. I promise your perception of Dust will drastically change. To each their own and all that and I can certainly understand why one would find pubs boring, the matches themselves often suck. However, my (albeit limited) experience with PC was pretty much everyone running the same gear and using the same tactics. Some of my distaste for it may come from the fact I played logi so all any commander ever wanted me to do was drop uplinks and repping hives and pretty much that was it. Good PC matches can be really good like you and Taste describe, but they can be just as much of boring one-sided affairs and unless things have changed variety in tactics and equipment is completely lacking. Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.

DESTROYER OF GALAXIES Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 2	Posted - 2014.04.16 15:45:00 - [71] - Quote i have been playing this game for a year now. but i have played in 100+ pc matches.
1st Lieutenant Tiberius 0uter.Heaven 1619	Posted - 2014.04.16 15:49:00 - [72] - Quote DESTROYER OF GALAXIES wrote: i have been playing this game for a year now. but i have played in 100+ pc matches. Have your second like good sir The Sinwarden
N1ck Comeau Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 2486	Posted - 2014.04.16 15:51:00 - [73] - Quote i must have 100+ Pc's under my belt. If you run cloak and shotgun, you're a scrub Don't brick tank that scout, come on, get good. Proud member of RND
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 12795	Posted - 2014.04.16 15:57:00 - [74] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: howard sanchez wrote: I just don't think that PC delivers on that competitive potential. Do you? I believe that PC, as currently implemented, keeps players away, prevents participation and is wracked by broken mechanics and poorly implemented processes. Honestly, I can't stand pubs. If I could only PC to cap out, I would only ever play FW for uplinks. PC is the only reason why I even play this game. I honestly don't understand how people can have fun in this game playing pubs. They are boring, repetitive, and largely uncompetitive if you bring a decent squad. I think the reason why so many people are not involved in PC is because this is a free to play game, and a large portion of the people who are still playing are horrible. When they have to face off against the tiny minority of people who have actual competitive urges, they get rolled. Just blame CCP for taking so long to fix the competitive side that the people who could have made it a vibrant scene all left. I think anyone that still takes this game serious and feels that dust attracts truly tallented fps player's are just fooling themselves and grasping at straws, but hey, more power to you My DUST 514 Music Videos Solo Incubus pilot, superb expert of wallet depletion
elmoss NOOB HAUS 0	Posted - 2014.04.16 16:05:00 - [75] - Quote Never played a match in PC, been playing dust for what like a yaer and a half .... isn't it pointless to even attempt as anything but a giant corp?
Serimos Haeraven The Exemplars Top Men. 713	Posted - 2014.04.16 16:12:00 - [76] - Quote I've played around 15 when i was really active in my alliance, but dropships aren't as useful in PC's since the other team often has gastuns and fully maxed rail guns. Tankers are being diagnosed with a new disease; Cancer of the Assault Dropship. Many of them don't survive.
xSivartx D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 70	Posted - 2014.04.16 16:17:00 - [77] - Quote Maybe 5 since closed beta. One in beta was fun, the rest, if the enemy showed it was so laggy I could barely navigate the map and stopped caring to play it.
The Attorney General 2577	Posted - 2014.04.16 16:22:00 - [78] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: I think anyone that still takes this game serious and feels that dust attracts truly tallented fps player's are just fooling themselves and grasping at straws, but hey, more power to you I don't think you understand. I am saying that any of the actually decent players, those capable of giving the top corps a run for their money, either left the game or joined up. The thing is, that there are people who do great in pubs, but they don't belong in PC. Either because they suck at comms, can't take one for the team, or are just used to farming scrubs and can't actually fight. There is a very small portion of the playerbase that isn't completely trash. That small sliver is the PC players. Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
The Attorney General 2577	Posted - 2014.04.16 16:23:00 - [79] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: 0. But, I'm not a 17 year-old, FotM corp hopper with something to prove, either. Whoever liked this post is just as bad as this scrub. If you can't hang, thats ok, but don't pretend that you are above it. Then again, you don't have to prove how horrible you are, all pub players are. Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
Kristoff Atruin Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2094	Posted - 2014.04.16 16:45:00 - [80] - Quote Played at least a dozen PC matches, probably a lot more. Pubs might be repetitive but there's more variety to be found there than PC. In PC it was the exact same match every time. The same suits and the same cheesy tactics that resulted in one workable strategy for winning the match. First side that pulled it off would win no matter what else happened during the rest of the match. The cheesy tactics resulting in one viable strategy might not be a big issue anymore (back then it was rooftop forge guns + tanks), but the other side of it was having to play at the same time almost every night and trying to round up people to play something they didn't consider fun. They gave us the timer system so that we'd be able to defend, but in the current format of the game mode it makes it a giant grind for anyone who has a life. ie: sometimes in the evening I want to go out and have a few really good beers at the bar, or go to the gym. God forbid you have a social life. "Sorry dude, I can't go see that movie tonight...I have to defend my space pixels" I really blame the lack of geography in Dust for this. We would get attacked by someone's A team every night because they could be everywhere at once. Meanwhile our corp only had so many people with the SP required to compete against that, in the right time zone. It meant that our core players almost never got a night off and they burned out completely. To say that it was not fun would be putting it mildly.

Smooth Assassin Stardust incorporation IMMORTAL REGIME 1268	Posted - 2014.04.16 17:02:00 - [81] - Quote None for me, corp had two or one but at times i weren't there. *Assassination is my thing.*
Seeth Mensch Capital Acquisitions LLC Dirt Nap Squad. 209	Posted - 2014.04.16 17:07:00 - [82] - Quote General John Ripper wrote: I have never seen anyone do an actual role call for this kind of thing before. What I want to do is gain some insight as to how much of this player base is missing out on dust's competitive side. Please say if you are an active pc player or have played more than 5 games of pc or if you have never played a game. I have been trying to get into a PC for several months now and still haven't done even one. Hi! Gosh, I've missed you...with every bullet, plasma shot, rail gun, and missile.
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 3647	Posted - 2014.04.16 17:18:00 - [83] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: Rynoceros wrote: 0. But, I'm not a 17 year-old, FotM corp hopper with something to prove, either. Whoever liked this post is just as bad as this scrub. If you can't hang, thats ok, but don't pretend that you are above it. Then again, you don't have to prove how horrible you are, all pub players are. Please... You'd better ask somebody about it before you try trash talking me. I've had invites to join nearly every major district holder and do the Heavy work in PC. I just don't give too much of a ** about rubbing the noses of wannabe elitists, like yourself, in my **. But, I may make an exception.... I GÖú Kittens.
Cyzad4 Blackfish Corp. 271	Posted - 2014.04.16 17:22:00 - [84] - Quote General John Ripper wrote: I have never seen anyone do an actual role call for this kind of thing before. What I want to do is gain some insight as to how much of this player base is missing out on dust's competitive side. Please say if you are an active pc player or have played more than 5 games of pc or if you have never played a game. Not a one Welcome to you're "DOOM"
The Attorney General 2583	Posted - 2014.04.16 17:22:00 - [85] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: Please... You'd better ask somebody about it before you try trash talking me. I've had invites to join nearly every major district holder and do the Heavy work in PC. I just don't give too much of a ** about rubbing the noses of wannabe elitists, like yourself, in my **. But, I may make an exception.... Oh that was good. I'll trash talk you as much as I please. Feel free to try and act hard you pub only bum. Please attempt to make an exception, would be funny to watch you one and done your PC career. Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
Void Echo Total Extinction 2417	Posted - 2014.04.16 17:28:00 - [86] - Quote From being in Internal Error through KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND id say iv been in a lot more than 5 total. Youtube Closed Beta Vet CEO: Total Extinction
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 3647	Posted - 2014.04.16 17:32:00 - [87] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: Rynoceros wrote: Please... You'd better ask somebody about it before you try trash talking me. I've had invites to join nearly every major district holder and do the Heavy work in PC. I just don't give too much of a ** about rubbing the noses of wannabe elitists, like yourself, in my **. But, I may make an exception.... Oh that was good. I'll trash talk you as much as I please. Feel free to try and act hard you pub only bum. Please attempt to make an exception, would be funny to watch you one and done your PC career. You're funny. I like that. See you in-game... I GÖú Kittens.
Quil Evrything Triple Terrors 1238	Posted - 2014.04.16 17:45:00 - [88] - Quote I play regularly. Often hit weekly cap. Have 20millifetime SP I think? only played maybe 3 PC battles. Only because I got a semi-random invite in the chat channels I hang out in. Seems like you have to be in an ubercorp to get an invite(or to care about the outcome) I'd LIKE to be in more battles where BOTH sides consist of competant people, who work together. But, since I dont have a KDR of 5.0+, I dont see that happeng much. FW could have been that. But I'm caldari so.... yeah.... (yes I know about the caldari channel. it's rather hit or miss, seems like. Mostly miss)
TechMechMeds SWAMPERIUM 3062	Posted - 2014.04.16 18:04:00 - [89] - Quote Played a fair bit, over 150 matches. If you know what a telefrag match is, then I love you. The tritanium I sell is more relevant than dust has ever been.
A'Real Fury D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 659	Posted - 2014.04.16 18:25:00 - [90] - Quote never been in PC. Had a few opportunities but they are generally set late at night or in the wee hours of the morning when I have other things to do or asleep.



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