DUST Search - AFK Players - Players hiding in the MCC

LAVALLOIS Nash wrote:

Did you bother to check the scoreboard at the same time? Or did you spend most of your time whining and feeling sorry for yourself?

Dust 514 is not a free game in the sense that a death means nothing. People have to pay ISK for all their equipment unless they are running starter fits.

Take a second to step out of your entitled mindset and put yourself in the shoes of someone else;

Imagine a relatively new player, running suits that cost 10,000-15,000ISK. Hes playing a Domination against a super corp. Hes been trying to push all game, but keeps running int squads having 6vs1 fights. Concequently, hes now 0-8 with 75 WP.

How much do you think hes going to get paid for being 0-8 with 75 WP? Probably close to 85,000ISK. Except his suit losses total 120,000ISK for that game. He is already facing a deficit of 35,000ISK. For a new player with low reserves, that can be devastating.

So what are his choices? Keep pushing and losing suits and make the deficit all that much worse? Quit the match and lose the full 120,000ISK? Or...... wait out the end of the game, cash out, and hope to find a more balanced match next time around?

People AFKing in the MCC is not the problem. It is a symptom of the problem. Fix the real problem (PC corps in Pub) and the symptoms will go away.

Garrett Blacknova wrote:

1. Go to dust514.com
2. Open support page.
3. Create support ticket.
4. Include names of AFKers and request for competent anti-AFK measures to be taken.
5. Repeat as necessary.

^Yeah, punish the players who are having a bad match.

You seem like the kind of person who just sits around his phone all day looking for complaints against the nieghbours. Im sure the local PD have your number on a post it next to their caller ID, and roll their eyes everytime they see your number, wondering whos getting the noise complaint today.

"One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production."

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Z Omega The Brotherhood of the Omega 5	Posted - 2014.04.11 11:42:00 - [1] - Quote I've asked before, but I'll ask again. Why do people AFK in the MCC? Are they just not good enough to play, so they ruin it for everyone else? Or do I just have really crappy luck and get stuck with the sucky team that hides. We are the omega, the end of all things.
Aran Abbas Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 332	Posted - 2014.04.11 12:02:00 - [2] - Quote Lack of time/motivation to play. Hope that the game will get better and those skillpoints will come useful. There, answered your query.
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 3589	Posted - 2014.04.11 12:05:00 - [3] - Quote Netflix can't watch itself. I GÖú Kittens.
Z Omega The Brotherhood of the Omega 5	Posted - 2014.04.11 12:06:00 - [4] - Quote Then they shouldn't play instead of ruining it for others. Or at least make it so if you don't get any WP, you don't get any SP or ISK. I'm tired of having 10 players doing nothing in the MCC, taking up space that more useful and better players could fill. We are the omega, the end of all things.
Knight Solitaire 658	Posted - 2014.04.11 12:17:00 - [5] - Quote Free SP + Free ISK + No Risk (Of course there will people that say its not free because of the electricity bill or something stupid) The problem with AFKing is that the SP rewards are completely ******. You get: 5 SP/Second 1 SP/WP So pretty much you're rewarded for being there, and not doing something. Woof! Woof! -Some dog on the street
m twiggz Pradox One Proficiency V. 482	Posted - 2014.04.11 12:25:00 - [6] - Quote Please refer to all AFK'ing in the MCC as "Sumo'ing" from here on out. Thank you.
Z Omega The Brotherhood of the Omega 5	Posted - 2014.04.11 12:27:00 - [7] - Quote m twiggz wrote: Please refer to all AFK'ing in the MCC as "Sumo'ing" from here on out. Thank you. Why? We are the omega, the end of all things.
Z Omega The Brotherhood of the Omega 5	Posted - 2014.04.11 12:28:00 - [8] - Quote Knight Solitaire wrote: Free SP + Free ISK + No Risk (Of course there will people that say its not free because of the electricity bill or something stupid) The problem with AFKing is that the SP rewards are completely ******. You get: 5 SP/Second 1 SP/WP So pretty much you're rewarded for being there, and not doing something. I feel as though they should get nothing. Or a system be in place that can tell if they're just hiding and not even playing. We are the omega, the end of all things.
The Terminator T-1000 Skynet Incorporated 389	Posted - 2014.04.11 12:31:00 - [9] - Quote Players will ways exploit something. It is really not the players fault but CCPs. How come you do not see this problem with other FPS.
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn 2210	Posted - 2014.04.11 12:33:00 - [10] - Quote Z Omega wrote: I've asked before, but I'll ask again. Why do people AFK in the MCC? Are they just not good enough to play, so they ruin it for everyone else? Or do I just have really crappy luck and get stuck with the sucky team that hides. It's the same reason why people used to lock their districts / do a wonderful, big, huge blue donut. -#Firmocosìperchènonhopersonalità

Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 5084	Posted - 2014.04.11 12:36:00 - [11] - Quote 1. Go to dust514.com 2. Open support page. 3. Create support ticket. 4. Include names of AFKers and request for competent anti-AFK measures to be taken. 5. Repeat as necessary.
Rizlax Yazzax Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 171	Posted - 2014.04.11 12:36:00 - [12] - Quote Z Omega wrote: Then they shouldn't play instead of ruining it for others. Or at least make it so if you don't get any WP, you don't get any SP or ISK. I'm tired of having 10 players doing nothing in the MCC, taking up space that more useful and better players could fill. Making WP a requirement to get any SP at all wouldn't stop them. All they'd have to do is drop an uplink/hive or shoot a few rounds into a turret for a kill assist. Then straight back to spinning/leg crunches on the MCC. Not to mention the poor newberries who go 0/10 with 0WP getting screwed by this, even though they fought.
m twiggz Pradox One Proficiency V. 482	Posted - 2014.04.11 12:47:00 - [13] - Quote Z Omega wrote: m twiggz wrote: Please refer to all AFK'ing in the MCC as "Sumo'ing" from here on out. Thank you. Why? I have a friend, who just so happens to be named Sumo, who likes to AFK in the MCC. It's a very commonly used phrase among our alliance. We'd like others to adopt the term as well.
Z Omega The Brotherhood of the Omega 5	Posted - 2014.04.11 12:48:00 - [14] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: 1. Go to dust514.com 2. Open support page. 3. Create support ticket. 4. Include names of AFKers and request for competent anti-AFK measures to be taken. 5. Repeat as necessary. Will that actually work? Or is it all in vain? We are the omega, the end of all things.
Rifter7 Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 387	Posted - 2014.04.11 13:05:00 - [15] - Quote The Terminator T-1000 wrote: Players will ways exploit something. It is really not the players fault but CCPs. How come you do not see this problem with other FPS. you do. it's a problem on more than fps's, too.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 5086	Posted - 2014.04.11 13:08:00 - [16] - Quote Z Omega wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: 1. Go to dust514.com 2. Open support page. 3. Create support ticket. 4. Include names of AFKers and request for competent anti-AFK measures to be taken. 5. Repeat as necessary. Will that actually work? Or is it all in vain? The more people we have reporting these people, the more likely CCP are to realise it really IS as big a problem as the frequent AFK threads on the forums would indicate. Also, the more likely they are to consider implementing a REAL anti-AFK solution in place of the current one. They do listen to the players. And when I've reported people, and commented about the poor choice of anti-AFK measure they're using, they've responded to my reports.
steadyhand amarr TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad. 2817	Posted - 2014.04.11 13:10:00 - [17] - Quote The Terminator T-1000 wrote: Players will ways exploit something. It is really not the players fault but CCPs. How come you do not see this problem with other FPS. /Slaps T for making a massively stuiped statement. Does is the only game that has this type of skill system. And just to ram the point home Team fortrest 2 had this probelm on a huge scale. Defiance had this problem this too. Would u like more examples?? "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
Sir Snugglz Red Star. EoN. 624	Posted - 2014.04.11 13:35:00 - [18] - Quote We are fortunate to be part of an small elite group of people whose only purpose is to gain access into the MCC control room. For months we have made little progress but have not lost hope. A while back we received intel that there is an access panel in one of the corners of the spawn areas within the MCC. All available personnel have been dispatched to investigate the matter. Unfortunately because of many battles that lead to the destruction of the MCC and our clone, we never get to analyze all the data and always have to start over. Have no fear though, we will remain vigilant and continue to gather data and these so called "MCC Corners." We will gain control of the ship... -Pro AFKing LVL 5 -Luck is just one of my skills -Just because I make flying look easy doesn't mean it is
Yeeeuuuupppp 241	Posted - 2014.04.11 14:06:00 - [19] - Quote Z Omega wrote: I've asked before, but I'll ask again. Why do people AFK in the MCC? Are they just not good enough to play, so they ruin it for everyone else? Or do I just have really crappy luck and get stuck with the sucky team that hides. My dog is an attention seeking b!tch. So, I set up the AFK rubber band, and play with her and come back and die. CCP Saberwing: " War elephants for 1.9 Mic status: Muted Feel the wrath of my troll
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 1907	Posted - 2014.04.11 14:28:00 - [20] - Quote Knight Solitaire wrote: Free SP + Free ISK + No Risk (Of course there will people that say its not free because of the electricity bill or something stupid) The problem with AFKing is that the SP rewards are completely ******. You get: 5 SP/Second 1 SP/WP So pretty much you're rewarded for being there, and not doing something. The sad part is that the solution is simple. Make the 5x WP SP done during events standard. Then nerf the crud out of the SP/second half of things. I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate

Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 1956	Posted - 2014.04.11 14:40:00 - [21] - Quote Z Omega wrote: Knight Solitaire wrote: Free SP + Free ISK + No Risk (Of course there will people that say its not free because of the electricity bill or something stupid) The problem with AFKing is that the SP rewards are completely ******. You get: 5 SP/Second 1 SP/WP So pretty much you're rewarded for being there, and not doing something. I feel as though they should get nothing. Or a system be in place that can tell if they're just hiding and not even playing. The vets have been fighting that fight since closed beta, so well over a year now, closer to two. Hundreds of threads, thousands upon thousands of words and well-reasoned arguments presented by peeps who obviously know the game inside out and have it's best interests at heart. To date we've heard absolutly nothing back on it from CCP. It's been like talking to a black hole. Good luck in your quest, young merc. The path ahead of you is littered with the corpses of vets who are no longer with us. o7 I support SP rollover.
Supernus Gigas sNk Syndicate 738	Posted - 2014.04.11 14:40:00 - [22] - Quote I feel as though people are blowing the AFK problem way out of proportion. I see a AFKers like once every 10 matches, and even then it's only one or two people doing it. Sometimes more, but usually not. It's never enough to ruin a match for me. *FIRE UP THE HEAVY MEAT GRINDER! WE'RE HAVIN' CLONE BURGERS TONIGHT, BOYS!*
LAVALLOIS Nash QcGOLD 90	Posted - 2014.04.11 14:52:00 - [23] - Quote Did you bother to check the scoreboard at the same time? Or did you spend most of your time whining and feeling sorry for yourself? Dust 514 is not a free game in the sense that a death means nothing. People have to pay ISK for all their equipment unless they are running starter fits. Take a second to step out of your entitled mindset and put yourself in the shoes of someone else; Imagine a relatively new player, running suits that cost 10,000-15,000ISK. Hes playing a Domination against a super corp. Hes been trying to push all game, but keeps running int squads having 6vs1 fights. Concequently, hes now 0-8 with 75 WP. How much do you think hes going to get paid for being 0-8 with 75 WP? Probably close to 85,000ISK. Except his suit losses total 120,000ISK for that game. He is already facing a deficit of 35,000ISK. For a new player with low reserves, that can be devastating. So what are his choices? Keep pushing and losing suits and make the deficit all that much worse? Quit the match and lose the full 120,000ISK? Or...... wait out the end of the game, cash out, and hope to find a more balanced match next time around? People AFKing in the MCC is not the problem. It is a *symptom* of the problem. Fix the real problem (PC corps in Pub) and the symptoms will go away. Garrett Blacknova wrote: 1. Go to dust514.com 2. Open support page. 3. Create support ticket. 4. Include names of AFKers and request for competent anti-AFK measures to be taken. 5. Repeat as necessary. ^Yeah, punish the players who are having a bad match. You seem like the kind of person who just sits around his phone all day looking for complaints against the nieghbours. Im sure the local PD have your number on a post it next to their caller ID, and roll their eyes everytime they see your number, wondering whos getting the noise complaint today.
The Robot Devil Brave Bunnies Brave Collective 2299	Posted - 2014.04.11 15:07:00 - [24] - Quote Cheaters are going to cheat at every opportunity they get. They are cheaters and should be banned every time they get caught for at least a month and if caught more than three times their character should be permanently banned. "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke
The Robot Devil Brave Bunnies Brave Collective 2299	Posted - 2014.04.11 15:27:00 - [25] - Quote LAVALLOIS Nash wrote: Did you bother to check the scoreboard at the same time? Or did you spend most of your time whining and feeling sorry for yourself? Dust 514 is not a free game in the sense that a death means nothing. People have to pay ISK for all their equipment unless they are running starter fits. Take a second to step out of your entitled mindset and put yourself in the shoes of someone else; Imagine a relatively new player, running suits that cost 10,000-15,000ISK. Hes playing a Domination against a super corp. Hes been trying to push all game, but keeps running int squads having 6vs1 fights. Concequently, hes now 0-8 with 75 WP. How much do you think hes going to get paid for being 0-8 with 75 WP? Probably close to 85,000ISK. Except his suit losses total 120,000ISK for that game. He is already facing a deficit of 35,000ISK. For a new player with low reserves, that can be devastating. So what are his choices? Keep pushing and losing suits and make the deficit all that much worse? Quit the match and lose the full 120,000ISK? Or...... wait out the end of the game, cash out, and hope to find a more balanced match next time around? People AFKing in the MCC is not the problem. It is a *symptom* of the problem. Fix the real problem (PC corps in Pub) and the symptoms will go away. Garrett Blacknova wrote: 1. Go to dust514.com 2. Open support page. 3. Create support ticket. 4. Include names of AFKers and request for competent anti-AFK measures to be taken. 5. Repeat as necessary. ^Yeah, punish the players who are having a bad match. You seem like the kind of person who just sits around his phone all day looking for complaints against the nieghbours. Im sure the local PD have your number on a post it next to their caller ID, and roll their eyes everytime they see your number, wondering whos getting the noise complaint today. It is the same as botting, modding a controller or using a macro to perform better. They are getting something for cheating the mechanics, if it wasn't cheating then there wouldn't be a mechanism to try and stop it. Being poor or bad doesn't give them a right to cheat and get free in game assets without risking anything. It is a symptom of a problem but it still doesn't give them the right to do it. I run starters in a lot of battles in which I am being rolled off the field and I have been playing for about two years now. If they would try to get better or to make a difference then they would get better and make more kills. Cheaters should not be allowed to continue, it is not an entitled mindset. It is not wanting to reward cowards and cheats and nothing else. If you don't have the balls to play then turn the game off or leave the battle. Be a logi or run starter fits. Beat the protostompers at their game by only wearing free suits so they don't make much ISK and when you do get a kill it is much more satisfying. Being in a squad and/or actually trying is always better then sitting there cheating just to make risk free ISK. Reporting a player is not punishing them having a bad match, it is reporting a cheater. If you can't compete then leave the battle and try again. If you are too poor to use the suit you want then maybe you should evaluate your finances and learn to manage your wallet better. 10k suit * 10 deaths = 100k Just trying will make 50k after the loses. Free suit * 10000000000000000000000 deaths = all profit. If you can't even make 1 WP in a match then you need to reevaluate your role or you came in to the battle very late. There are plenty of things that can be done to make ISK and it only takes a little though and actually trying. Saying that a starter fit is not competitive is a lie, they are good suits and with a better mod or two you can make a lot of ISK off a 7k suit. AFKing is cheating and should be punished as such. "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke
Virtual Riot Rebels New Republic INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 322	Posted - 2014.04.11 15:30:00 - [26] - Quote because they get fed up with jumping out of the MCC after being redlined by a protostomping corp, only to be OBd and suicided by the enemy protostompers, because since ISK means nothing to them so they'll do anything to get the kill. The only thing you can do at that point is chill in the MCC because those b@stards are scanning down every red dot in the enemy red line and taking them out whatever it takes.
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 1956	Posted - 2014.04.11 15:42:00 - [27] - Quote Imo, the responsibility for AFKing does not belong to any player of this game, be they protostomping queue-synced squad members or broke and bewildered noob or cynical vet. It's a mechanic that CCP intentionally created and added to the game without consulting the players. It's a mechanic that CCP has intentionally left in the game in spite of players' response to it. It's a mechanic the their 'rubberband-proof fix' still allows to exist. It looks to me like CCP has made a design descision that they want peeps to be able to AFK in their game, this kind of kittenpoop desn't happen by accident. I support SP rollover.
Maximus Stryker Who Are Those Guys 900	Posted - 2014.04.11 15:43:00 - [28] - Quote Don't play in the Oceania server, that is an AFK server. Go to your in game setup menu and select the server you would like to play in. If the automatic setting is Oceania, than you need to manually change it. It is common knowledge that AFKers do so in a dedicated server for it and that the other servers are for actual game play. Your petitions should really be asking CCP to rename the server from "Oceania" to "AFK" *Faction Channels for FW Staging* PIE Ground Control \| Caldari Hierarchy \| Turalyon \| Chosen Matari
Clone D 180	Posted - 2014.04.11 15:52:00 - [29] - Quote Obviously in Dust, the strength of the wolf is not the pack. Learn to play with a handicap and keep a few special fittings lying around for such cases. .
CRNWLLC Screwy Rabbit ULC 187	Posted - 2014.04.11 16:00:00 - [30] - Quote Sometimes your team gets stomped, hard. And when the enemy controls the majority of the objectives, has more than 50% shields remaining, while your MCC has less than 50% armor, that match is over. If you've been playing hard the whole match, there's no dishonor in sitting out the last 30 seconds of it. My other dropsuit is a Python.



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