LAVALLOIS Nash
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Posted - 2014.04.11 14:52:00 -
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Did you bother to check the scoreboard at the same time? Or did you spend most of your time whining and feeling sorry for yourself?
Dust 514 is not a free game in the sense that a death means nothing. People have to pay ISK for all their equipment unless they are running starter fits.
Take a second to step out of your entitled mindset and put yourself in the shoes of someone else;
Imagine a relatively new player, running suits that cost 10,000-15,000ISK. Hes playing a Domination against a super corp. Hes been trying to push all game, but keeps running int squads having 6vs1 fights. Concequently, hes now 0-8 with 75 WP.
How much do you think hes going to get paid for being 0-8 with 75 WP? Probably close to 85,000ISK. Except his suit losses total 120,000ISK for that game. He is already facing a deficit of 35,000ISK. For a new player with low reserves, that can be devastating.
So what are his choices? Keep pushing and losing suits and make the deficit all that much worse? Quit the match and lose the full 120,000ISK? Or...... wait out the end of the game, cash out, and hope to find a more balanced match next time around?
People AFKing in the MCC is not the problem. It is a symptom of the problem. Fix the real problem (PC corps in Pub) and the symptoms will go away.
Garrett Blacknova wrote:1. Go to dust514.com
2. Open support page.
3. Create support ticket.
4. Include names of AFKers and request for competent anti-AFK measures to be taken.
5. Repeat as necessary.
^Yeah, punish the players who are having a bad match.
You seem like the kind of person who just sits around his phone all day looking for complaints against the nieghbours. Im sure the local PD have your number on a post it next to their caller ID, and roll their eyes everytime they see your number, wondering whos getting the noise complaint today. |
LAVALLOIS Nash
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Posted - 2014.04.11 16:18:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:
It is the same as botting, modding a controller or using a macro to perform better. They are getting something for cheating the mechanics, if it wasn't cheating then there wouldn't be a mechanism to try and stop it. Being poor or bad doesn't give them a right to cheat and get free in game assets without risking anything.
Its not the same at all. You are comparing intentionally using cheating devices to someone is is just hesitant to go and incur another loss. When the MCC is close to destruction and the enemy is sitting on your redline, what other choices are there for an inexperienced player? Whether he hides in the MCC or hides behind an installation on the ground under the MCC, his only choices at that point is hide or die or quit.
The Robot Devil wrote:I run starters in a lot of battles in which I am being rolled off the field and I have been playing for about two years now. If they would try to get better or to make a difference then they would get better and make more kills. Cheaters should not be allowed to continue, it is not an entitled mindset. It is not wanting to reward cowards and cheats and nothing else. If you don't have the balls to play then turn the game off or leave the battle. Be a logi or run starter fits. Beat the protostompers at their game by only wearing free suits so they don't make much ISK and when you do get a kill it is much more satisfying.
You are talking like someone who has experience. Again, remember the demographic in question here. Its not about "fear" or cowardice. These people are not trying to protect their KDR, they are trying to protect their wallets.
You learned how to be economical. Me too I learned that. Some have not. they have not learned to diversify their roles. You and i know a losing situation when we see it, and switch to cheaper suits so that the ISK losses wont be too horrid. A new player is not expecting to lose. Hes expecting that as his equipment gets better, his results and payout will too.
We are not talking about someone who is 9-3 and wants a good KDR so hes hiding to get the good KDR and good pay. Someone who is 0-8 has already lost the game in all senses of the word.
The Robot Devil wrote:Being in a squad and/or actually trying is always better then sitting there cheating just to make risk free ISK. Reporting a player is not punishing them having a bad match, it is reporting a cheater. If you can't compete then leave the battle and try again. If you are too poor to use the suit you want then maybe you should evaluate your finances and learn to manage your wallet better.
10k suit * 10 deaths = 100k Just trying will make 50k after the loses.
Free suit * 10000000000000000000000 deaths = all profit.
You are repeating yourself mostly here, so ill repeat myself as well; Hesitation to jump into the meat grinder is different than joining a match just to AFK all match. Now if a player is AFKing in every match, thats a different story than a player who is just having a bad game and is waiting out the last 2 minutes.
Of course they need to learn to manage their wallet better, but that is not going to happen instantly. People take time to learn things. They wont learn anything by going bankrupt or by quitting the game. Incase you forgot, non ingame items, like skillbooks, can cost quite a bit.
The Robot Devil wrote:If you can't even make 1 WP in a match then you need to reevaluate your role or you came in to the battle very late.
In all fairness, the game is not clear as to what actions will award WP. Most new players are coming here from more basic FPS where the players only role is to kill. These players are used to being rewarded for kills or objectives. I didnt know drop uplinks gave 25WP per spawn. I didnt know I could get 35WP for Triage, or 10WP for team resupply, or 40WP for Baloch destruction, or 75WP for damaging a vehicle.
When I first started playing, I only knew of 25WP kill assist, 50WP kill, 50WP hack and 100WP objective. A player who is 0-8, is not killing, not capturing objectives, not hacking installations, and is lucky to get a kill assist while using their militia AR. If they dont know about other ways to get WP, they are prettymuch shutdown from competing at that point.
One more thing; The thing about symptoms, is that if you dont fix the real problem, they resurface in another form. If you implement a dragnet punishment for anyone taking time in the MCC, they will just find a spot on the ground to camp. If you find a way to punish them for that then they will still find another way to run down the clock safely. If you fix the real problem, the unbalanced matchmaking, then the symptom of people too discouraged to fight will go away. |