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Eko Sol
Strange Playings
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Posted - 2014.04.10 20:22:00 -
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I have to chime in about this. There are so many other things that are happening that need to be looked at in the game. I highly doubt if they will EVER have a players market. The PS3 will be a near dead console by the time it happens. |
Jenza's Pants
The Hetairoi
154
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Posted - 2014.04.10 20:23:00 -
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CCP should just take isk made off district locking and distribute it throughout the cluster. Socialism. |
Zahle Undt
Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn
1279
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Posted - 2014.04.10 20:26:00 -
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Heeeeeeeell no! They need to give those of us who haven't reaped the rewards of printing ISK through PC more viable ways to do so. The way I look at it, sure the this means that a select few will have more opportunity to buy officer gear and BPOs in the market, but that means ISK will transfer from those that are hoarding PC ISK to those that don't have it. Its like its own organic market correction. Hell I'll probably jack the price up on BPOs or officer gear for anyone in DNS that is looking to buy because I know they have the cash. Call it a blue donut fee if you like.
Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
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Leonid Tybalt
Inner.Hell
453
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Posted - 2014.04.10 20:32:00 -
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**** no.
And i'm not even in a corp that owns any districts.
Resetting people's isk balance smacks of socialist bullshit, which wouldn't be fitting at all in the ultra capitalist economy that embodies New Eden.
If you dislike that someone else has more money then you, then tough ****. That's capitalism for ya!
Also, capitalism requires a substantial poor population, otherwise hyperinflation will ensue. |
Leonid Tybalt
Inner.Hell
453
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Posted - 2014.04.10 20:33:00 -
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Jenza's Pants wrote:CCP should just take isk made off district locking and distribute it throughout the cluster. Socialism.
Socialism and New Eden are like oil and water: they don't mix and never will. |
Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
6562
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Posted - 2014.04.10 21:20:00 -
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VALCORE72 wrote: baa your no fun
Good
#LivingLikeLarry
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PLAYSTTION
GamersForChrist
89
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Posted - 2014.04.10 21:46:00 -
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Atiim wrote:I've been wanting to do these things for a while, where I put a topic up for debate every week and then tally up the votes to see where the community's opinion lies on the matter. When I found an interesting discussion in another thread, I figured now's as good a time as any. You may also vote on which topic should be debated next week. However, please choose a topic that hasn't reached a general consensus yet, as I'd like these things to hold an actual debate as opposed to a like farm. It should also go without saying that I will be neutral on these debates. So without further ado, here's the question: Quote:Should ISK Balance be reset once the player market is introduced? NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
I just made 20mil in a month and i don't wanna lose it
-Open Beta Vet 19 mil sp-
Laser+Flaylock
Dust 514 recruitment link here.
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anaboop
NECROM0NGERS Caps and Mercs
34
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Posted - 2014.04.10 22:37:00 -
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Yes, along with an asset reset on isk purchased items, excluding AUR and LP purchased items, giving every active player a base amount of isk to start prehaps to ip addresses so players with tons of accounts on the same ips dont get flooded with isk.
While selling your items for a huge increase in isk sounds good, that will further destroy the game making more players have enough to run more proto, new players will not stay, if everyone else runs only proto.
As someone else said a new currency, seperate from isk no exchange rate from isk to new currency, but new currency to isk sounds ok. So players would need to start to gain said currency in order to purchase items sold from other players. But overall it doesnt solve the infinite proto stomping.
All that isk farmed for PC is enough to fund them indefinitely, thats basically end game for them isk wise. Run what u want when u want how u want with no regards as to what happens doesnt sound to fun to people in the basic suits, ienjoy taking out protos with a basic suit but not when it doesnt affect them at all. Losing a proto suit should be f**k that cost me so and so isk. Not meh ill just bring another after another after another.
People say it will make people quit, maybe it's for the better, new players will be able to stand a chance and other players that stick with the game will have a chance to rise up without that huge benefit making the new wave of top corps less one sided compared to what they are now.
In the moment when I understand my enemy, well enough to defeat him, I also love him. And then I destroy him.
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Magnus Amadeuss
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
751
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Posted - 2014.04.10 22:43:00 -
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I am not sure that I said this before, but I would be ok with it.
I currently have ~ 1,000 of each protosuit I can wear (5 of them) and nearly 500 mil isk. I would gladly give it all up in a "reset" in order to facilitate the market.
Fixing swarms
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
6570
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Posted - 2014.04.11 02:45:00 -
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Anymore thoughts or ideas?
#LivingLikeLarry
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JP Acuna
Pendejitos Canis Eliminatus Operatives
127
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Posted - 2014.04.11 03:11:00 -
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No way I work hard for my ISK, i never run proto, i barely know what PC is like except horrible and a 'gamemode' where i never won (only played like 3 times).
Most importantly: ISK is precious time i've spent playing this game. I 'worked' within the game to earn it in REAL time. Taking it away would be an insult, a disregard of all my effort and time.
It's a ridiculous idea. NO it shouldn't happen. |
Travis Stanush
GunFall Mobilization
83
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Posted - 2014.04.11 04:24:00 -
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I would be ok with it . I have worked incredibly hard for my isk but I am not afraid to do it again. If they did this they should retool the starter fits so they are not utter crap, I really do believe that the PC isk should be removed so that the new player/ corps could get into the endgame which is PC. But this is all dependent on wether or not they are fixing / adding other key aspects of the game, PC and PVE. If they introduce the market now then all the current money could be used to create inflation thus denying access to higher tier gear an excellent strategy to keep the plebs in their place.
Imy theory is assuming that NPC market is marginalized/removed |
Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
6580
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Posted - 2014.04.11 11:53:00 -
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To Page 1 Infinity.... and beyond!
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
940
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Posted - 2014.04.11 11:56:00 -
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Atiim wrote:To Page 1 Infinity.... and beyond! Lol And im such a masshole, trolling players on different games causing them to rage...
Closed beta vet
Tears, sweet delicious tears
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Cyzad4
Blackfish Corp.
255
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Posted - 2014.04.11 12:03:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Resetting ISK is punishing the majority of players because the PC elitist exploited a flawed mechanic for months. If CCP is going to do anything, aim it directly at those exploiters rather than everyone else. Why not just look back on data logs and remove ISK generated from locking districts all that time? I'd love to hear them start raging about CCP taking away their ISK, the same ISK that they knowingly got from exploits.
But meh, at the end of the day I see CCP doing absolutely nothing about this. ^This^ yes, otherwise no. Punishing players who have basic math skills along with ones using broken mechanics is silly.
Welcome to you're "DOOM"
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Echo 1991
WarRavens League of Infamy
206
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Posted - 2014.04.11 12:05:00 -
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It will have to be done otherwise the entire player market will be ruled by the people who have the most isk. They will just buy everything they can because its cheaper. If it isnt reset it will cause a lot of problems. |
Leonid Tybalt
Inner.Hell
455
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Posted - 2014.04.11 12:43:00 -
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Eko Sol wrote:I have to chime in about this. There are so many other things that are happening that need to be looked at in the game. I highly doubt if they will EVER have a players market. The PS3 will be a near dead console by the time it happens.
Dust will most likely get ported to PS4... |
Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
6587
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Posted - 2014.04.11 15:46:00 -
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Bump.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
6748
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Posted - 2014.04.15 15:45:00 -
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Less than 24hrs left.
Any suggestions on which topic I should do next?
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Tweaksz
NECROM0NGERS Caps and Mercs
41
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Posted - 2014.04.15 18:34:00 -
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I think it would be a good change of pace it would certainly make up for the ridiculous isk farms furing uprising PC, and here's some cream for all the butthurts out there; get isk back on a ration depending on how many skill points you have. For example I have 11m and the ratio is 1:2 than for each skill point I would get 2 isk for a total of 22m isk.
Unicorn GalScout with TAR and BoltP.
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Jadd Hatchen
The Phoenix Federation
499
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Posted - 2014.04.15 18:40:00 -
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Atiim wrote:I've been wanting to do these things for a while, where I put a topic up for debate every week and then tally up the votes to see where the community's opinion lies on the matter. When I found an interesting discussion in another thread, I figured now's as good a time as any. You may also vote on which topic should be debated next week. However, please choose a topic that hasn't reached a general consensus yet, as I'd like these things to hold an actual debate as opposed to a like farm. It should also go without saying that I will be neutral on these debates. So without further ado, here's the question: Quote:Should ISK Balance be reset once the player market is introduced?
Hell NO!!! And if you understood how the market worked in EVE then you would understand why resetting money would only kill the market in its infancy!
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=137656&find=unread
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Justice Prevails
250
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Posted - 2014.04.15 19:15:00 -
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Would have to say no. Earned my 85 mil the hard way and want to keep it. CCP can't punish the PC exploiters for playing the game that CCP gave them. It would also hurt too many other people. Besides, if someone found an exploit with pc, what's to stop them from eventually f***ing the market? They really need to hire someone to play devil's advocate when they think sh*t up.
Embracing my inner scrub since 2013.
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