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waistr DEAD-MEN-WALKING 141	Posted - 2014.04.06 17:55:00 - [1] - Quote So why are all the events skewed so against logis? Nova Knife event Logi friendly? - nope Operation Mauler Logi friendly? - nope Side Arm show down Logi Friendly? we don't even have a side arm slot So CCP how about an event we can shine in? OPPERATION REP TOOL CIRCLE JERK Have 3 or more logis all repping each other for fun and prize's Speak up brothers!
Delta90212 Dust2Dust. Top Men. 399	Posted - 2014.04.06 17:57:00 - [2] - Quote Heavy event was pretty decent for logis every match i had lots of +25 triage points pop Fear The Tribes // In Rust We Trust // Standings Minmatar 6 // Minmatar Logibro //
Vulpes Dolosus SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1319	Posted - 2014.04.06 17:58:00 - [3] - Quote Hopefully there's something in the works. Though I'm sad they missed the opportunity for a Logi x Heavy event during valentines day. Me in my ADS: 1,2
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 873	Posted - 2014.04.06 17:59:00 - [4] - Quote Delta90212 wrote: Heavy event was pretty decent for logis every match i had lots of +25 triage points pop Didn't get you any extra SP, ISK or gear. You would have found a way to get those WP anyway. 1.8 better then 1.7 but not by much. Henchmen21: Infantry Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
Athena Sentinel SOE Knights Templar 201	Posted - 2014.04.06 18:02:00 - [5] - Quote YA AN ACTIVE EQUPIMENT LOGI EVENT I am so sick of passive logi drops topping the leaderboards. Lets make Logi more of an active role - More points for repping and scanning!
The Headless Horseman Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire 177	Posted - 2014.04.10 13:40:00 - [6] - Quote You better hope they KEEP ignoring logi's. The so called 'events' are actually stress tests. They go by total kills and nerf/buff acordingly. Slayer logi days are numbered. I believe they are next to see the axe man. Signed, Sealed, Delivered

CCP Saberwing C C P C C P Alliance 3461	Posted - 2014.04.10 13:53:00 - [7] - Quote The Headless Horseman wrote: You better hope they KEEP ignoring logi's. The so called 'events' are actually stress tests. They go by total kills and nerf/buff acordingly. Totally inaccurate...not sure where you pulled this information from :) I'm always up for hearing Event suggestions! CCP Saberwing // DUST 514 Community Manager // @kanafchian

Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 3831	Posted - 2014.04.10 14:02:00 - [8] - Quote An event in which all WP not gained via kills is doubled. No.
Sole Fenychs Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 268	Posted - 2014.04.10 14:18:00 - [9] - Quote A Logi event should not be about doubling equipment WP or anything like that. Rather, it should actually reward you for being a Logi. And a Logi without ordinary suits alongside them isn't a real Logi. How about this: After being supported by a Logi - Be it revival or healing or nanohives or drop uplinks - A player gets a bonus to their WP gain. At the same time, a Logi gets a bonus similar to the dropship's transport assist/squad leader commission. The result would be people making use of Logi assistance without every single player feeling the need to become a Logi. Everyone is glad about their added WP, while the Logis get an extreme boost depending on how good they are. In fact, the WP pay-out would be the biggest if most players aren't Logis. If you just increase the WP rewards for Logis, you'll have equipment everywhere, with people getting frustrated at not getting any WP for their particular nanohive. If you grant rewards for Logi dependance, you'll have heavies, commandos and assaults that clump up with Logis and try to have massive fights with repair, revive and nanohive support. Scouts and solo players will prefer to spawn from drop uplinks and go for aggressive engagements to make the most of their temporary WP boosts. There is only one issue with my proposal: It would need to be limited to Logi-used equipment. And there is currently no way to see which pieces of equipment have been placed by a Logi. The lack of repair indicator is also an issue. I'm also not sure how scanners would interact with this model. Aren't they currently limited to only showing their scans to squad members? Would be kinda sad if non-squad Gallente Logis got the short end of the stick.
dent 308 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2726	Posted - 2014.04.10 14:21:00 - [10] - Quote Relevant : http://www.reddit.com/r/subdreddit/wiki/minmatar_logibro Victor Laszlo: ... If we stop breathing, we'll die. If we stop fighting our enemies, the world will die.

WUT ANG D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 170	Posted - 2014.04.10 14:25:00 - [11] - Quote How about every 2k reps given while being in a logi suit nets you 500sp. Friendly fire excluded! Minmatar all the way. Weapon sp refund please
dent 308 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2726	Posted - 2014.04.10 14:27:00 - [12] - Quote WUT ANG wrote: How about every 2k reps given while being in a logi suit nets you 500sp. Friendly fire excluded! I could go for this. Be advised I have broken 20k for reps given in a match. That was running good tools and going flat out. Victor Laszlo: ... If we stop breathing, we'll die. If we stop fighting our enemies, the world will die.
Martin0 Brancaleone Maphia Clan Corporation 522	Posted - 2014.04.10 14:27:00 - [13] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: The Headless Horseman wrote: You better hope they KEEP ignoring logi's. The so called 'events' are actually stress tests. They go by total kills and nerf/buff acordingly. Totally inaccurate...not sure where you pulled this information from :) I'm always up for hearing Event suggestions! For the next week every revive done when using a logi suit gives you 1000sp. or Every 100hp of armor repaired or every 5 people spawning on you uplinks or every 5 people resupplied by nanohives or every scan-assist. Or proto logi suits instead of sp. You know, kills aren't the only important thing in this game.
Emo Ghost 106	Posted - 2014.04.10 14:47:00 - [14] - Quote But the Amarr logi has a side arm.... My likes= How many people dislike General John Ripper. -ê(n+ÇGêç´)-ê
Appia Vibbia Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2064	Posted - 2014.04.10 14:49:00 - [15] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: The Headless Horseman wrote: You better hope they KEEP ignoring logi's. The so called 'events' are actually stress tests. They go by total kills and nerf/buff acordingly. Totally inaccurate...not sure where you pulled this information from :) I'm always up for hearing Event suggestions! Need more Templar Manhunt events. Everyone loved that. Many were disappointed they weren't selected. Someone said you'd do another like it in the future. It's been around a year since that event, we need one for Gallente. Only since BPOs are out of the question just give us Officer gear for it! Appia Vibbia for CPM1 AppiaVibbia(at)gmail(dot)com AKA Nappia, AKA Mathppia
Shadow Archeus OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 370	Posted - 2014.04.10 14:52:00 - [16] - Quote Shut up logi make top of the scoreboard every time anyway....asking for an event when you already makre the most isk and sp per match anyway....wtf people Real heavies use lasers
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2161	Posted - 2014.04.10 16:23:00 - [17] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: The Headless Horseman wrote: You better hope they KEEP ignoring logi's. The so called 'events' are actually stress tests. They go by total kills and nerf/buff acordingly. Totally inaccurate...not sure where you pulled this information from :) I'm always up for hearing Event suggestions! I agree that events are stresstests. I really like the rewards and that's why I put up with them (I would probably do anything for more SP) but damn: These kill events really get to me. Because they add a new level of frustration. A Kill Assist suddenly isn't something I don't care about anymore. Suddenly a Kill Assist becomes a defeat. And a few hundred kills may not seem much when you can do them with equipment of your choice, but during these events the weapon or suit you have to use is predetermined. To get the 375 kills for the last event I blew about 10 - 15 million ISK. And I only used advanced gear. I probably died at least 500 times. It also rewards being egoistic: Running in front of your teammates to make sure they can't hit a target. Trying your hardest to steal kills. During these events you become a liability for your squad an your team. I think this has to change. Events like kill events should be community events as long as we only have PvP. Of course you don't have to be as generous as you were during the last community event (I won't stop you, but giving every player 2 - 3 Million SP would probably be overkill). But something like "For every kill done over the weekend with Suit X / Weapon Y every player gets 100SP, Boosters do not apply, capped at Z SP" would be fine. This is how I would want to see events play out. It doesn't take away from the teamplay and it also doesn't add a new rage factor to the game. Quite contrary: Should you get killed with a mentioned weapon you can think "Well, at least I contributed to the event in some way!" These events which force you personally to achieve a certain amount of kills with a certain equipment are something you can reintroduce when we have PvE. Because PvE I then could always do alone or with some friends. Much less of a rage factor. Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
Gelhad Thremyr Quebec United 215	Posted - 2014.04.10 16:31:00 - [18] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: The Headless Horseman wrote: You better hope they KEEP ignoring logi's. The so called 'events' are actually stress tests. They go by total kills and nerf/buff acordingly. Totally inaccurate...not sure where you pulled this information from :) I'm always up for hearing Event suggestions! 1- 1000 SP per MCC drop suicide with a proto suit 2- 1000 SP per grenade suicide with a proto suit 3- 1000 SP per DropShip ramming into tanks 4- 1000 SP per LAV speed jumping and ramming into DropShips
Maximus Stryker Who Are Those Guys 893	Posted - 2014.04.10 16:38:00 - [19] - Quote if you use a rep tool regularly, then you should know that every event and every game is an event for us...the WP and SP just roll in *Faction Channels for FW Staging* PIE Ground Control \| Caldari Hierarchy \| Turalyon \| Chosen Matari
Tony Duster K-A-O-S theory 4	Posted - 2014.04.10 16:43:00 - [20] - Quote I feel like 5x on wp's isn't so bad. 125wp per rep or spawn is pretty huge. 300wp on a revive. More for squad action too! Numbers like that make me a logi machine. Yeah it applies to everyone unlike some of the latest events, but I'm always seeing QQ on the forums about how much WP logis can get. I'm digging these events as a logi.

danie sous DUST BRASIL S.A Proficiency V. 0	Posted - 2014.04.10 17:17:00 - [21] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: The Headless Horseman wrote: You better hope they KEEP ignoring logi's. The so called 'events' are actually stress tests. They go by total kills and nerf/buff acordingly. Totally inaccurate...not sure where you pulled this information from :) I'm always up for hearing Event suggestions! War points per repair/nanites given!!!!! Uplinks will be absolute spam.
RKKR The Southern Legion League of Infamy 903	Posted - 2014.04.10 17:26:00 - [22] - Quote I would like a revive-event...were every motherfuckers with a MLT injector beats you to the corpse because they have better stamina stats and don't care about you surviving. I would like to suggest the following kneejerk-suggestions: - fix-the-support-role-event - read-and-consider-feedback-from-logiplayers-next-time-event.
Quil Evrything Triple Terrors 1205	Posted - 2014.04.10 17:38:00 - [23] - Quote RKKR wrote: I would like to suggest the following kneejerk-suggestions: - fix-the-support-role-event Ooo, yes please! I'd like to define the rules as, * logis get bonus WP for every rep and revive. x2 or x3 * logis get adjusted WP (0 instead of 50!) for every kill * logis get marginal WP bonus stacked on the above, for every slot that does NOT have shields or armor fitted. non-logis get bonuses... for helping logis survive! So, since everyone can fit a rep or injector, bonus WP for using either of them on a logi Healing nanohives also count if they heal a logi.
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 87	Posted - 2014.04.10 18:09:00 - [24] - Quote "Eager Medic" Event: Earn 10x WP for every merc who dies within 1 second of being revived. Bang?
SponkSponkSponk The Southern Legion League of Infamy 726	Posted - 2014.04.11 02:49:00 - [25] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: "Eager Medic" Event: Earn 10x WP for every merc who dies within 1 second of being revived. "I'm a blueberry farmer. The harvest is good this year." o/
J4yne C0bb Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 312	Posted - 2014.04.11 03:00:00 - [26] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: The Headless Horseman wrote: You better hope they KEEP ignoring logi's. The so called 'events' are actually stress tests. They go by total kills and nerf/buff acordingly. Totally inaccurate...not sure where you pulled this information from :) I'm always up for hearing Event suggestions! Really? I've always assumed this was the case. I figured that the reason you guys give out free aurum items is because you are trying to get data on that particular item's usage, for testing and balance purposes. That way you can cast a wider 'data net', for mercs that will never skill into or buy the items -- like giving away the free aurum versions of the commando suits you just released. You guys get data, and mercs get free stuff, works out for everybody. That's really not the case, huh? Min Logi \| aka Punch R0ckgroin, Fatsuit
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4993	Posted - 2014.04.11 03:02:00 - [27] - Quote waistr wrote: So why are all the events skewed so against logis? Nova Knife event Logi friendly? - nope Operation Mauler Logi friendly? - nope Side Arm show down Logi Friendly? we don't even have a side arm slot So CCP how about an event we can shine in? OPPERATION REP TOOL CIRCLE JERK Have 3 or more logis all repping each other for fun and prize's Speak up brothers! Logis had the spot light long enough. Go back to your cave ,troll. Like drones? = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=153604&find=unread
Foundation Seldon Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 612	Posted - 2014.04.11 03:03:00 - [28] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: The Headless Horseman wrote: You better hope they KEEP ignoring logi's. The so called 'events' are actually stress tests. They go by total kills and nerf/buff acordingly. Totally inaccurate...not sure where you pulled this information from :) I'm always up for hearing Event suggestions! Vehicle Kill Assist + Small/Large Turret kill event. Skew it so that you get more SP from the vehicle kill assist side to encourage vehicle team play during the event. Saga v. Methana Balance
TODDSTER024 Revive Repair Resupply 195	Posted - 2014.04.11 03:13:00 - [29] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: The Headless Horseman wrote: You better hope they KEEP ignoring logi's. The so called 'events' are actually stress tests. They go by total kills and nerf/buff acordingly. Totally inaccurate...not sure where you pulled this information from :) I'm always up for hearing Event suggestions! Theres no end of the match stat for revives , total healing given could be a factor. WP and SP are nice but I would prefer a higher isk payout. Running a proto min logi with proto equipment and enough mods to support it are very costly. My fittings cost 200k, my payout is normally about 250k . If i die twice im at a loss no matter how well i support my team

CCP Saberwing C C P C C P Alliance 3539	Posted - 2014.04.11 03:19:00 - [30] - Quote We definitely do pull metrics and data from the game but that's not the only reason we gift free stuff! We're generally doing it to encourage people to participate in the events and sometimes...occasionally...because we find it in the deepest depths of our dark hearts to be nice CCP Saberwing // DUST 514 Community Manager // @kanafchian


True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 9442	Posted - 2014.04.11 03:22:00 - [31] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: The Headless Horseman wrote: You better hope they KEEP ignoring logi's. The so called 'events' are actually stress tests. They go by total kills and nerf/buff acordingly. Totally inaccurate...not sure where you pulled this information from :) I'm always up for hearing Event suggestions! OH GOOD THANK GOD! Please Sabrewing almighty responder of threads.... please steer the current events paradigm away from arbirtrary and arcadey challenges and bring them back to Lore based events with unique rewards and factional choices like Caldari Prime did. No event since that one has been nearly so well received by the community. Please take this opportunity to bring the narrative of New Eden into the games we play and also make us as players feel a part of New Eden. "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!" -Dagger Two
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 6571	Posted - 2014.04.11 03:23:00 - [32] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: because we find it in the deepest depths of our dark hearts to be nice In a CCP game? GTFO #LivingLikeLarry [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND

CCP Saberwing C C P C C P Alliance 3539	Posted - 2014.04.11 03:24:00 - [33] - Quote True Adamance wrote: OH GOOD THANK GOD! Please Sabrewing almighty responder of threads.... please steer the current events paradigm away from arbirtrary and arcadey challenges and bring them back to Lore based events with unique rewards and factional choices like Caldari Prime did. No event since that one has been nearly so well received by the community. Please take this opportunity to bring the narrative of New Eden into the games we play and also make us as players feel a part of New Eden. Honestly, we would love to run these events more frequently. There is a serious load on the dev team whenever they're made though and we're trying to prioritise things effectively right now. For instance, it shocked me to see just how much work went in to just creating custom sky-boxes, let alone the maps etc! CCP Saberwing // DUST 514 Community Manager // @kanafchian

True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 9443	Posted - 2014.04.11 03:33:00 - [34] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: True Adamance wrote: OH GOOD THANK GOD! Please Sabrewing almighty responder of threads.... please steer the current events paradigm away from arbirtrary and arcadey challenges and bring them back to Lore based events with unique rewards and factional choices like Caldari Prime did. No event since that one has been nearly so well received by the community. Please take this opportunity to bring the narrative of New Eden into the games we play and also make us as players feel a part of New Eden. Honestly, we would love to run these events more frequently. There is a serious load on the dev team whenever they're made though and we're trying to prioritise things effectively right now. For instance, it shocked me to see just how much work went in to just creating custom sky-boxes, let alone the maps etc! I can only imagine, but as a player I have to say that is what impressed me the most, that the dev teams went out of their way to make such a change for such and event, and because of that I really appreciated the event. Thankyou CCP for that it was incredible. However custom skyboxes are not wholly what makes the event what it is. Perhaps a map could display an unique socket lay out that we rarely see, or a slight alterations to terrain or objective location fitting with the lore. Events in their own right could be used to introduce content features as well if something missed release at patch X,Y,or Z you patch the event in and release the content under special circumstances. Its the small details like that which gets the wider communities appreciation. Perhaps even depending on our win/losses we could affect the outcome of the plot. I distinctly remember how polarised the community became during the event. Everyone took a side, everyone fought for their chosen faction, everyone looked up when the first spawned in and died because they were staring at the Titan. And those unique rewards...commemerative dropsuits, very limited edition, they used to be prized vanity items in my stocks....not anymore since the State Protectorate Suit went Orange...... but none the less were symbols of the campaigns we had served in..in their own right. Thanks for hearing me out though. "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!" -Dagger Two
Denak Kalamari Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative 1493	Posted - 2014.04.11 03:59:00 - [35] - Quote True Adamance wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: Honestly, we would love to run these events more frequently. There is a serious load on the dev team whenever they're made though and we're trying to prioritise things effectively right now. For instance, it shocked me to see just how much work went in to just creating custom sky-boxes, let alone the maps etc! I can only imagine, but as a player I have to say that is what impressed me the most, that the dev teams went out of their way to make such a change for such and event, and because of that I really appreciated the event. Thankyou CCP for that it was incredible. However custom skyboxes are not wholly what makes the event what it is. Perhaps a map could display an unique socket lay out that we rarely see, or a slight alterations to terrain or objective location fitting with the lore. Events in their own right could be used to introduce content features as well if something missed release at patch X,Y,or Z you patch the event in and release the content under special circumstances. Its the small details like that which gets the wider communities appreciation. Perhaps even depending on our win/losses we could affect the outcome of the plot. I distinctly remember how polarised the community became during the event. Everyone took a side, everyone fought for their chosen faction, everyone looked up when the first spawned in and died because they were staring at the Titan. And those unique rewards...commemerative dropsuits, very limited edition, they used to be prized vanity items in my stocks....not anymore since the State Protectorate Suit went Orange...... but none the less were symbols of the campaigns we had served in..in their own right. Thanks for hearing me out though. ^ THIS MILLION TIMES THIS While the Titan skybox and bits of Titan parts scattered on the map were frigging awesome , that wasn't the main reason I consider Caldari Prime to be the best event as of yet. It was the lore connection, the rewards, the fact that we had an impact on what would happen next. Anyone remember the time when we had a series of events right before Uprising that had impact on the New Eden lore? The fall of Tibus Heth, historical gathering of the Tribal Council which set the path for the Matari to abandom democracy and reinstate the council, those were things we dusters played a part in to make it happen. Maybe if the Bragian Order had succeeded in defeating the defending Sebiestor Field Sappers and conquering Vard II, the Tribal Council may have not gathered and set the story on a completely different path. The events where we have an impact and gain unique rewards from are the best, not just arcade-y competitions with aurum items and SP as rewards. As Kador said, it doesn't have to be anything grand with custom skyboxes and huge battles going on in space at the same time. Just a simple loredrop along with the event to explain why it happened, and slight adjustments would happen depending on the outcome. For instance, a Caldari corp could try to take control of a Gallente research facility to steal new blueprints for weapon tech. If the Caldari win, the cost of rail rifles go down while the price of assault rifles goes up ane vice versa if the Gallente win. Or maybe a Kameira with vital data about Amarr tech has escaped his slave master and is trying to leave Amarr. Minmatar try to defend a VIP, in this case a CCP actor, throughout the match while Amarr try to kill and capture him. If the Minmatar win, they can get a brand new dropsuit with a unique fitting layout(like the Black Eagle scout), or the Amarr get their own unique suit if they win. These kind of events that let us influence the game and the overall New Eden universe, even if they're just small fluff events, are the best and those I really crave. Please CCP, do more of these kind of events! Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published Apr. 1st
Vell0cet Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad. 1398	Posted - 2014.04.11 04:08:00 - [36] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: True Adamance wrote: OH GOOD THANK GOD! Please Sabrewing almighty responder of threads.... please steer the current events paradigm away from arbirtrary and arcadey challenges and bring them back to Lore based events with unique rewards and factional choices like Caldari Prime did. No event since that one has been nearly so well received by the community. Please take this opportunity to bring the narrative of New Eden into the games we play and also make us as players feel a part of New Eden. Honestly, we would love to run these events more frequently. There is a serious load on the dev team whenever they're made though and we're trying to prioritise things effectively right now. For instance, it shocked me to see just how much work went in to just creating custom sky-boxes, let alone the maps etc! I agree with CCP Saberwing. There are MANY more important priorities right now. These might be cool to do again eventually (TM) when the core is in place, the playerbase is growing steadily, and its bringing in enough money to expand the staff, and recoup development costs. I think the whole Caldari Prime thing and the Templar stuff was a HUGE misappropriation of development resources at the time. If all of that effort had been spent on core mechanics and NPE, this game might have double (or more) of the current players right now. If we had those numbers, we'd presumably be able to afford a larger team, and would have seen changes happening much faster. I think it was one of the worst blunders by the last EP. Now I love my Templar gear, don't get me wrong, but the whole event was such a waste of resources at the worst possible time. Best PvE idea ever!
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 9445	Posted - 2014.04.11 04:20:00 - [37] - Quote Vell0cet wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: True Adamance wrote: OH GOOD THANK GOD! Please Sabrewing almighty responder of threads.... please steer the current events paradigm away from arbirtrary and arcadey challenges and bring them back to Lore based events with unique rewards and factional choices like Caldari Prime did. No event since that one has been nearly so well received by the community. Please take this opportunity to bring the narrative of New Eden into the games we play and also make us as players feel a part of New Eden. Honestly, we would love to run these events more frequently. There is a serious load on the dev team whenever they're made though and we're trying to prioritise things effectively right now. For instance, it shocked me to see just how much work went in to just creating custom sky-boxes, let alone the maps etc! I agree with CCP Saberwing. There are MANY more important priorities right now. These might be cool to do again eventually (TM) when the core is in place, the playerbase is growing steadily, and its bringing in enough money to expand the staff, and recoup development costs. I think the whole Caldari Prime thing and the Templar stuff was a HUGE misappropriation of development resources at the time. If all of that effort had been spent on core mechanics and NPE, this game might have double (or more) of the current players right now. If we had those numbers, we'd presumably be able to afford a larger team, and would have seen changes happening much faster. I think it was one of the worst blunders by the last EP. Now I love my Templar gear, don't get me wrong, but the whole event was such a waste of resources at the worst possible time. I'm not suggesting they shift focus to priming events..... all I am suggesting is that perhaps once the game reaches a specific level of developmental stability we consider moving away from the established class, SP, or weapon based challenges and get back to events that make us a players feel a part of the universe we inhabit. "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!" -Dagger Two

CCP Saberwing C C P C C P Alliance 3548	Posted - 2014.04.11 04:49:00 - [38] - Quote True Adamance wrote: I'm not suggesting they shift focus to priming events..... all I am suggesting is that perhaps once the game reaches a specific level of developmental stability we consider moving away from the established class, SP, or weapon based challenges and get back to events that make us a players feel a part of the universe we inhabit. Nothing would make me happier - believe me, we love to run cool events like that too. :) CCP Saberwing // DUST 514 Community Manager // @kanafchian

lunatis orrak Band of The Hawkx Lokun Listamenn 9	Posted - 2014.04.11 04:51:00 - [39] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: The Headless Horseman wrote: You better hope they KEEP ignoring logi's. The so called 'events' are actually stress tests. They go by total kills and nerf/buff acordingly. Totally inaccurate...not sure where you pulled this information from :) I'm always up for hearing Event suggestions! Event event!!!! Logi active equipment event double wp sp for reps needles and scanners better yet triple for scanner they suck need sone inentive to break them out CHUBBY CHASER FOR LIFE `!BEWARE MY FAT BULLDOGS! The leash is not for your protection`
meri jin Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 814	Posted - 2014.04.11 04:56:00 - [40] - Quote Quote: CCP Ignoring logi's? No, they are nerfing them in to the ground. Like you have to use the side arm, no more light weapon. And you will see even less logis on the BF. My EVE pilot have more ISK then your peon corp.

TODDSTER024 Revive Repair Resupply 195	Posted - 2014.04.11 05:22:00 - [41] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: The Headless Horseman wrote: You better hope they KEEP ignoring logi's. The so called 'events' are actually stress tests. They go by total kills and nerf/buff acordingly. Totally inaccurate...not sure where you pulled this information from :) I'm always up for hearing Event suggestions! "Double dose of Logi love" - nano hives, nanite injectors, repair tools, uplinks: double the output and half the consumption.
lunatis orrak Band of The Hawkx Lokun Listamenn 9	Posted - 2014.04.11 05:41:00 - [42] - Quote Shadow Archeus wrote: Shut up logi make top of the scoreboard every time anyway....asking for an event when you already makre the most isk and sp per match anyway....wtf people Noone ever rep this guy feel free to needle him in full view of the enemy though over and over and over again dont hate on the logis we can make or break your day CHUBBY CHASER FOR LIFE `!BEWARE MY FAT BULLDOGS! The leash is not for your protection`
Storm Shelton 0uter.Heaven 247	Posted - 2014.04.11 06:00:00 - [43] - Quote Logis make money ? When did that happen? :/ Tanker alt -- Quasar Storm Director of PAND3M0N1UM Medical Vending Machine^^Nanite Delight
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 2648	Posted - 2014.04.11 06:32:00 - [44] - Quote Shadow Archeus wrote: Shut up logi make top of the scoreboard every time anyway....asking for an event when you already makre the most isk and sp per match anyway....wtf people Uhh.. Git gud? "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Forum Warrior lv.2 Amarr victor!
TODDSTER024 Revive Repair Resupply 195	Posted - 2014.04.11 06:42:00 - [45] - Quote Storm Shelton wrote: Logis make money ? When did that happen? :/ As a Logi, I loose A LOT more then I make. It hasn't happened
D34NOS MAZDA WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 452	Posted - 2014.04.11 07:19:00 - [46] - Quote Tony Duster wrote: I feel like 5x on wp's isn't so bad. 125wp per rep or spawn is pretty huge. 300wp on a revive. More for squad action too! Numbers like that make me a logi machine. Yeah it applies to everyone unlike some of the latest events, but I'm always seeing QQ on the forums about how much WP logis can get. I'm digging these events as a logi. If that was the case i would be getting 25000 wp in a match. 5 ob just by me ?? go home.
Mad Syringe ReDust Inc. 286	Posted - 2014.04.11 08:57:00 - [47] - Quote Shadow Archeus wrote: Shut up logi make top of the scoreboard every time anyway....asking for an event when you already makre the most isk and sp per match anyway....wtf people Jeezz what a moron... Do you even know how much a decent logi fit costs? When I need money, I run militia fits or a cheap heavy... Being top of the board doesn't mean that we get enough money to cover our expenses! If I die more than three times in my advanced logi fit, I'll usually loose money! Well don't come to me, when you need ammo reps or whatever Shadow.
KalOfTheRathi Nec Tributis 1183	Posted - 2014.04.11 09:19:00 - [48] - Quote waistr wrote: So why are all the events skewed so against logis? Pretty much because they don't like Logis. Logi suits were the breaking point for many WP exploits (at least in early Beta). CCP/Shanghai seemed to take offense at that and Logi WP has been on a consistent target for getting hammered. Sometimes with many tiny little whacks and other times with huge steam hammer blows. Rotten Assault suits result in many players using Logi suits which makes --> Slayer Logis! Nerf Logis. Why would we fix the Assault suits so they were good assault suits? Heck they ruined shields so nobody would run Caldari Assault you silly Merc. Design a system, leave it in place for over a year and then gut it. All while saying no, it is just a rumor except that the rumor and the truth actually matched perfectly. Now, too bad, so sad. I have not skilled back into Logi. I won't until the medium suit reshuffle happens. Which means what exactly is unexplained nor is there any time frame or ETA for it to be resolved. Not even a SOON(bs) from Devs. Nor I have skilled back into Heavies. Same thing. Until they determine how bad the Nerf Hammer is why spend the SP? Either way it doesn't pay. Skill into Logi, get Nerf Hammered with no SP reset. Skill into Heavy, get Nerf Hammered with no SP reset. I got to admit these guys are consistent. Although, coming from me that is not a compliment. And so it goes.
KalOfTheRathi Nec Tributis 1183	Posted - 2014.04.11 09:22:00 - [49] - Quote TODDSTER024 wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: Totally inaccurate...not sure where you pulled this information from :) I'm always up for hearing Event suggestions! "Double dose of Logi love" - nano hives, nanite injectors, repair tools, uplinks: double the output and half the consumption. I am sure he just forgot they Nerf Hammered all the equipment. And they are going to Nerf it again so a Logi won't be able to fit a Cloak Shield. Sweet. Unless you use it of course. And so it goes.
hold that Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 92	Posted - 2014.04.11 09:52:00 - [50] - Quote Shadow Archeus wrote: Shut up logi make top of the scoreboard every time anyway....asking for an event when you already makre the most isk and sp per match anyway....wtf people yea, he's right. and about half the time i'm on top with like a 4/5 kdr and the other dude is right; we make out every event, esp. the recent heavy and commando ones, wp was getting raked in. make an event where for every logi you kill you get bonus sp. now that would be a logi event

Mortedeamor Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1487	Posted - 2014.04.11 10:33:00 - [51] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: The Headless Horseman wrote: You better hope they KEEP ignoring logi's. The so called 'events' are actually stress tests. They go by total kills and nerf/buff acordingly. Totally inaccurate...not sure where you pulled this information from :) I'm always up for hearing Event suggestions! seriously an event that in some way caters to logi wuld be nice A laser rifle master for life not just for when it becomes popular Long Live the Empress Burn the Heretics
LT apparition Molon Labe. 78	Posted - 2014.04.11 10:38:00 - [52] - Quote waistr wrote: So why are all the events skewed so against logis? Nova Knife event Logi friendly? - nope Operation Mauler Logi friendly? - nope Side Arm show down Logi Friendly? we don't even have a side arm slot So CCP how about an event we can shine in? OPPERATION REP TOOL CIRCLE JERK Have 3 or more logis all repping each other for fun and prize's Speak up brothers! Calm Yourself.. I'm Sure it's In the Pipelines. Ich sehe alles...
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 9456	Posted - 2014.04.11 11:34:00 - [53] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: True Adamance wrote: I'm not suggesting they shift focus to priming events..... all I am suggesting is that perhaps once the game reaches a specific level of developmental stability we consider moving away from the established class, SP, or weapon based challenges and get back to events that make us a players feel a part of the universe we inhabit. Nothing would make me happier - believe me, we love to run cool events like that too. :) That's pleasing to hear Sir Sabrewing. Nothing would make me happier and a huge fan of the lore and game than to feel like a person inhabiting New Eden. As much as most people consider a game to be a game.... I like to consider New Eden an experience, and such kinds of events that tie us to the greater universe serve only to enhance that experience in a manner only you guys are capable of. "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!" -Dagger Two
The Headless Horseman Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire 183	Posted - 2014.04.11 13:35:00 - [54] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: The Headless Horseman wrote: You better hope they KEEP ignoring logi's. The so called 'events' are actually stress tests. They go by total kills and nerf/buff acordingly. Totally inaccurate...not sure where you pulled this information from :) I'm always up for hearing Event suggestions! I just make it up as I go along? Seriously, everyone knows what these events are for. That's why your waiting to nerf heavies 'more data' aka events. Signed, Sealed, Delivered
The Headless Horseman Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire 183	Posted - 2014.04.11 13:42:00 - [55] - Quote Storm Shelton wrote: Logis make money ? When did that happen? :/ I'm a logi. I Pocket 10 mill a day if I don't get involved in drama. Spam links and Nan o. You don't even have to kill. Signed, Sealed, Delivered
lunatis orrak Band of The Hawkx Lokun Listamenn 12	Posted - 2014.04.11 13:53:00 - [56] - Quote The Headless Horseman wrote: Storm Shelton wrote: Logis make money ? When did that happen? :/ I'm a logi. I Pocket 10 mill a day if I don't get involved in drama. Spam links and Nan o. You don't even have to kill. Whoa there horsy i believe i smell a tall tail now are you trying to say you make 10 a day or you profit ten a day ? CHUBBY CHASER FOR LIFE `!BEWARE MY FAT BULLDOGS! The leash is not for your protection`
Thrydwulf Khodan 80	Posted - 2014.04.11 14:22:00 - [57] - Quote meri jin wrote: Quote: CCP Ignoring logi's? No, they are nerfing them in to the ground. Like you have to use the side arm, no more light weapon. And you will see even less logis on the BF. FYI - The SMG has low CPU/PG requirements and is great for close quarters combat. (And it is a sidearm.) and extremely comparable to the AR from a performance standpoint. And you'll see true logibro wherever there is need on the battlefield. If something is required ... from hives to uplinks to sticks to reppers and scanners we will be there. Logi assault ... Maybe not so much.
Storm Shelton 0uter.Heaven 249	Posted - 2014.04.12 00:50:00 - [58] - Quote The Headless Horseman wrote: I'm a logi. I Pocket 10 mill a day if I don't get involved in drama. Spam links and Nan o. You don't even have to kill. I would make money, But I'm too busy dishing it out to the community. Helping newer players get a jumpstart. Besides if I wanna grind ISK I can. I could make more than 10m a day easy if I had that time to play. Running my ADV gear gets boring after awhile, Though, And I prefer using all of my proto equipment to get better results -- Like 100% revives or speed repping. Its better for the team if I can do my job quickly and move on. Mainly though, Between helping newcomers & playing CFW, I stay pretty balanced with ISK. Tanker alt -- Quasar Storm Director of PAND3M0N1UM Medical Vending Machine^^Nanite Delight
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3453	Posted - 2014.04.12 00:53:00 - [59] - Quote Logis were considered the absolute best suit for everything up until 1.8. They didn't need any additional reason to spec into them, let alone some event that rewards logi activities.

CCP Saberwing C C P C C P Alliance 3599	Posted - 2014.04.12 01:10:00 - [60] - Quote The Headless Horseman wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: The Headless Horseman wrote: You better hope they KEEP ignoring logi's. The so called 'events' are actually stress tests. They go by total kills and nerf/buff acordingly. Totally inaccurate...not sure where you pulled this information from :) I'm always up for hearing Event suggestions! I just make it up as I go along? Seriously, everyone knows what these events are for. That's why your waiting to nerf heavies 'more data' aka events. Haha alright, don't take my word for it...because I'd stand to gain so much from making this up Events really don't play a large part in data-gathering for balance purposes. CCP Saberwing // DUST 514 Community Manager // @kanafchian


Seeth Mensch Capital Acquisitions LLC Dirt Nap Squad. 179	Posted - 2014.04.12 01:19:00 - [61] - Quote Shadow Archeus wrote: Shut up logi make top of the scoreboard every time anyway....asking for an event when you already makre the most isk and sp per match anyway....wtf people Troll much? Good logi fits are twice as expensive. If someone does well and tops the leaderboard that much, perhaps you should start spending you SP somewhere other than you are presently. Assuming leaderboards are that important to you. I just like tracking my WP Hi! Gosh, I've missed you...with every bullet, plasma shot, rail gun, and missile.
TODDSTER024 Revive Repair Resupply 198	Posted - 2014.04.12 01:31:00 - [62] - Quote KalOfTheRathi wrote: TODDSTER024 wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: Totally inaccurate...not sure where you pulled this information from :) I'm always up for hearing Event suggestions! "Double dose of Logi love" - nano hives, nanite injectors, repair tools, uplinks: double the output and half the consumption. I am sure he just forgot they Nerf Hammered all the equipment. And they are going to Nerf it again so a Logi won't be able to fit a Cloak Shield. Sweet. Unless you use it of course. Nope, no room for it. Wouldn't use even if I did have room. My equipment is nanite injector, nano hive, RT(in that order from left to right), the fourth slot on my proto fit is an active scanner.
Heathen Bastard The Bastard Brigade 1236	Posted - 2014.04.12 01:40:00 - [63] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: The Headless Horseman wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: The Headless Horseman wrote: You better hope they KEEP ignoring logi's. The so called 'events' are actually stress tests. They go by total kills and nerf/buff acordingly. Totally inaccurate...not sure where you pulled this information from :) I'm always up for hearing Event suggestions! I just make it up as I go along? Seriously, everyone knows what these events are for. That's why your waiting to nerf heavies 'more data' aka events. Haha alright, don't take my word for it...because I'd stand to gain so much from making this up Events really don't play a large part in data-gathering for balance purposes. then why are they always the newest stuff that's just been introduced and OP as hell, that then gets nerfed after the event. It's not exactly hard to connect dots. If you hear the words "WORTH IT!" look about, something hilarious just happened.

CCP Saberwing C C P C C P Alliance 3603	Posted - 2014.04.12 02:59:00 - [64] - Quote Heathen Bastard wrote: then why are they always the newest stuff that's just been introduced and OP as hell, that then gets nerfed after the event. It's not exactly hard to connect dots. Because we generally gift people some free variants of whatever's been introduced and want to incentivize people to give the new roles/weapons/elephants a go. CCP Saberwing // DUST 514 Community Manager // @kanafchian

Heathen Bastard The Bastard Brigade 1245	Posted - 2014.04.12 03:07:00 - [65] - Quote and then do the balance changes that the playerbase points out months in advance, almost to the letter. Almost like there's no internal testing at all, and we're just guinea pigs. Dunno, it just seems weird that with internal testing, game breaking bugs, easily exploited glitches, and massive imbalance on weapons slips through on every patch... If you hear the words "WORTH IT!" look about, something hilarious just happened.
DROPSHIP CAPTAIN Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 26	Posted - 2014.04.12 04:47:00 - [66] - Quote thats what your are some one might kick your a$$ might just be your own family karma is a *****. do say what every you want we want a refund or a respec and this flavor of the moth thing to DIE DOWN. look Im talking with people who are working on a better game that yours by all end. you bring out new weapons nerf them then nerfe them harder and not let anyone have a chance you start from 500 k sp and come talk to us. sorry for pulling a ted nudgent but this gets annoying corporation "CCP".
DROPSHIP CAPTAIN Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 26	Posted - 2014.04.12 04:48:00 - [67] - Quote Seeth Mensch wrote: Shadow Archeus wrote: Shut up logi make top of the scoreboard every time anyway....asking for an event when you already makre the most isk and sp per match anyway....wtf people Troll much? Good logi fits are twice as expensive. If someone does well and tops the leaderboard that much, perhaps you should start spending you SP somewhere other than you are presently. Assuming leaderboards are that important to you. I just like tracking my WP i hope that guy gets replaced or fire fired with a better honest person F*him!
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 428	Posted - 2014.04.12 12:09:00 - [68] - Quote I dont know if anyone knows me or If anything I say is worth reading Id like to think it is .Id like to think that people have seen me for so long that they either hate me or like me yet they know I played Amarr logi since the suit was introduced and all the way until 1.8.Now getting past the hate part or those that are just generally negative to anything I say .Id like to speak my mind on the current state of Logi's and why I think any type of event for them UNFORTUNATELY is a waste of time. CCP makes money off you buying Aurum/suits/weapons.They track all data from kill feeds.they've been doing this since closed beta.They do events to get you to skill new weps or suits and they're OP when first released to get the player base to buy boosters to skill them .they have kept damage and ranges out of our sight until release in the past , but we all know by now how this works and we call them FOTM's (flavor of the month)I agree with CCP changing the Drop suit command tree.I understand why they did it. To bring it more in line with how EVE is.In EVE if you fly a Caldari ship you cant put lasers on it, and vice versa in regaurds to AMarr ships cant have rails.I suspect CCP will do that some where down the line because this is how they operate. Back to 1.8 being released I knew after skilling all the equipment, and I mean all of it to level 5 when CCP decided that only racials would get certain types. I knew what they were doing. Eventually you would need to skill all logi suits.I knew they would nerf all equipment so that all racial bonus's would calculate under the then current values and so thus nothing would change.I knew with all the memory leaks in the research socket that this new cloak would be garbage and act like garbage with the "**" frame rate of that socket. Ive lost half ehp to CR's from people who were still "predator" that were firing at me. It was written on the walls. All logi's going side arm only. Taking the survive ability out of the suit because after all we heal people and revive people and see that effects the bottom line as far as Aurum sales. CCP has made us pay more in ISK buy making modules more expensive that the suit. Do you remember when they did that ? So then If you were carrying 4 equipment you were dying with alot more monetary loss. I hated the brick logi's dont get me wrong and that needed to change, but what CCP is out of their league on is the way FPS players break mechanics. I think they underestimated the creativity of the player base and how far some people will go to win.. Seeing the signs knowing that scout shotgun would be FOTM. Knowing how much my suit cost. Knowing the community. Knowing the player bases mentality . Knowing that people were already throwing RE's again which CCP said they fixed and at one point did and yet cant put a *** wheel like a hack wheel when arming them that cloaked scrubs would be throwing them. Knowing that when CCP decided they would hear this and change it but way after people took serious hits to there KDR months down the road. So why skill it? why be that guy? Why just troll people ? with * tactics and broke features? Knowing how buggy the frame rate can be. I walked away from logi. Because why in the hell would I play it now? Amarr an armor race their logi doesn't carry or get bonus's to fixing armor? Hmm well that makes since.Why loose a suit that cost 220k to be shot by a broke animation? The LOGI is dead and has and will be quietly put into a notch much like the miner in EVE. It'll just farm. Now that I've been playing EVE for about a year now you start to see the similarities.Logi ships in EVE have no weapons.That doesnt work for me in a FPS. Now I still have all the equipment and this SP in Drop suit upgrades and can still do those Logi things. If they're needed. But they all got nerfed for me simultaneously as I no longer have a racial logi suit. Am I mad at CCP or jaded ? No I just now have a clear understanding of what time it is.DUST 514 is a grindfest and no piece of equipment/suit or weapon will be what it is today.We will all perpetually grind the same maps for eternity. CCP will release "shineys" and this will go on for however long this game is online.As this cycle continues it teaches me one thing. That in a genre where stats are supposed to mean something in this game stats mean nothing at all. as you are constantly inundated with the latest gimmick. I'd like to say I think this game has a point. That it has relevance but I cant tell you that. Because I dont know what it's point is anymore or who's driving the bus. Fortune favors the Bold,but Success favors the Resolute** Unbent,Unburdened, UNSTOPPABLE Amarr loyalist
NextDark Knight Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 362	Posted - 2014.04.13 19:21:00 - [69] - Quote I'd like to know if you could have a nightime event where most of the maps are in mostly darkness. You'd pick it from special contracts and get points for playing. Forge Changes needed Officer Splash 3.0, Proto 2.7 Advanced 2.5 Standard 2.1. Original ROF needs to return!
Izlare Lenix Arrogance. 422	Posted - 2014.04.13 19:36:00 - [70] - Quote I will get 30-40 kills in a game and still come in third because the amount of warpoints logis can rack up. Logis get love every game when used as intended. Their massive warpoints net them the most isk payout per game. A logi will get 60 points for a dirty needle revive yet I only get 50 wp for kill unless I get headshot. This game is all about killing, so kills should be worth more wp than they are. Gun control is not about guns...it's about control. The only way to ensure freedom is by having the means to defend it.

ADAM-OF-EVE Dead Man's Game 1234	Posted - 2014.04.13 21:03:00 - [71] - Quote i have been posting for months about logi events and it all fell on deaf ears. instead every month we get a new slayer events and people complain that logis go around killing people. we cannot win I will logi the s* out of you https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
Spademan The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 1211	Posted - 2014.04.13 21:08:00 - [72] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Because we generally gift people some free variants of whatever's been introduced and want to incentivize people to give the new roles/weapons/elephants a go. When are we getting those war elephants in-game anyway? I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special. Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
Aleph Rynedee Science For Death 77	Posted - 2014.04.14 01:09:00 - [73] - Quote Izlare Lenix wrote: A logi will get 60 points for a dirty needle revive yet I only get 50 wp for kill unless I get headshot. This game is all about killing, so kills should be worth more wp than they are. As a logi I can see the sense in this line of reasoning, however I'm saving the team a clone (a limited resource in every engagement). You get 50 killing a red, I get 60 for saving the team a clone (and you ISK and/or AUR, plus the time to reengage the reds). While this game may focus on the killing of cranberries it's really about teamwork with the team in general and specifically within the squad.
dreth longbow Bank of DUST 514 45	Posted - 2014.04.14 01:30:00 - [74] - Quote Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: The Headless Horseman wrote: You better hope they KEEP ignoring logi's. The so called 'events' are actually stress tests. They go by total kills and nerf/buff acordingly. Totally inaccurate...not sure where you pulled this information from :) I'm always up for hearing Event suggestions! I agree that events are stresstests. I really like the rewards and that's why I put up with them (I would probably do anything for more SP) but damn: These kill events really get to me. Because they add a new level of frustration. A Kill Assist suddenly isn't something I don't care about anymore. Suddenly a Kill Assist becomes a defeat. And a few hundred kills may not seem much when you can do them with equipment of your choice, but during these events the weapon or suit you have to use is predetermined. To get the 375 kills for the last event I blew about 10 - 15 million ISK. And I only used advanced gear. I probably died at least 500 times. It also rewards being egoistic: Running in front of your teammates to make sure they can't hit a target. Trying your hardest to steal kills. During these events you become a liability for your squad an your team. I think this has to change. Events like kill events should be community events as long as we only have PvP. Of course you don't have to be as generous as you were during the last community event (I won't stop you, but giving every player 2 - 3 Million SP would probably be overkill). But something like "For every kill done over the weekend with Suit X / Weapon Y every player gets 100SP, Boosters do not apply, capped at Z SP" would be fine. This is how I would want to see events play out. It doesn't take away from the teamplay and it also doesn't add a new rage factor to the game. Quite contrary: Should you get killed with a mentioned weapon you can think "Well, at least I contributed to the event in some way!" These events which force you personally to achieve a certain amount of kills with a certain equipment are something you can reintroduce when we have PvE. Because PvE I then could always do alone or with some friends. Much less of a rage factor. Have not experienced your problem of stolen kills, maybe you should run solo during these events if you are having problems with teammates. CCP needs to run high sp events to make up for their incompetent programmers and reward players for putting up with all the bugs or they will lose player base.
dreth longbow Bank of DUST 514 45	Posted - 2014.04.14 01:37:00 - [75] - Quote Evicer wrote: I dont know if anyone knows me or If anything I say is worth reading Id like to think it is .Id like to think that people have seen me for so long that they either hate me or like me yet they know I played Amarr logi since the suit was introduced and all the way until 1.8.Now getting past the hate part or those that are just generally negative to anything I say .Id like to speak my mind on the current state of Logi's and why I think any type of event for them UNFORTUNATELY is a waste of time. CCP makes money off you buying Aurum/suits/weapons.They track all data from kill feeds.they've been doing this since closed beta.They do events to get you to skill new weps or suits and they're OP when first released to get the player base to buy boosters to skill them .they have kept damage and ranges out of our sight until release in the past , but we all know by now how this works and we call them FOTM's (flavor of the month)I agree with CCP changing the Drop suit command tree.I understand why they did it. To bring it more in line with how EVE is.In EVE if you fly a Caldari ship you cant put lasers on it, and vice versa in regards to Amarr ships cant have rails.I suspect CCP will do that some where down the line because this is how they operate. Back to 1.8 being released I knew after skilling all the equipment, and I mean all of it to level 5 when CCP decided that only racials would get certain types. I knew what they were doing. Eventually you would need to skill all logi suits.I knew they would nerf all equipment so that all racial bonus's would calculate under the then current values and so thus nothing would change.I knew with all the memory leaks in the research socket that this new cloak would be garbage and act like garbage with the "**" frame rate of that socket. Ive lost half ehp to CR's from people who were still "predator" that were firing at me. It was written on the walls. All logi's going side arm only. Taking the survive ability out of the suit because after all we heal people and revive people and see that effects the bottom line as far as Aurum sales. CCP has made us pay more in ISK by making modules more expensive tha the suit. Do you remember when they did that ? So then If you were carrying 4 equipment you were dying with alot more monetary loss. I hated the brick logi's dont get me wrong and that needed to change, but what CCP is out of their league on is the way FPS players break mechanics. I think they underestimated the creativity of the player base and how far some people will go to win.. Seeing the signs knowing that scout shotgun would be FOTM. Knowing how much my suit cost. Knowing the community. Knowing the player bases mentality . Knowing that people were already throwing RE's again which CCP said they fixed and at one point did and yet cant put a *** wheel like a hack wheel when arming them. That cloaked scrubs would be throwing them. Knowing that when CCP decided they would hear this and change it but way after people took serious hits to there KDR months down the road. So why skill it ? Why be that guy ? Why just troll people ? With *** tactics and broke features ? Not my style. Knowing how buggy the frame rate can be. I walked away from logi. Because why in the hell would I play it now? Amarr an armor race their logi doesn't carry or get bonus's to fixing armor? Hmm well that makes sense. Why loose a suit that cost 220k to be shot by a broke animation? The LOGI is dead and has and will be quietly put into a notch much like the miner in EVE. It'll just farm. Now that I've been playing EVE for about a year now you start to see the similarities.Logi ships in EVE have no weapons.That doesnt work for me in a FPS. Now I still have all the equipment and this SP in Drop suit upgrades and can still do those Logi things. If they're needed. But they all got nerfed for me simultaneously as I no longer have a racial logi suit. Am I mad at CCP or jaded ? No I just now have a clear understanding of what time it is.DUST 514 is a grindfest and no piece of equipment/suit or weapon will be what it is today.We will all perpetually grind the same maps for eternity. CCP will release "shineys" and this will go on for however long this game is online.As this cycle continues it teaches me one thing. That in a genre where stats are supposed to mean something in this game stats mean nothing at all. as you are constantly inundated with the latest gimmick. I'd like to say I think this game has a point. That it has relevance but I cant tell you that. Because I dont know what it's point is anymore or who's driving the bus. WoW! Long wall of text, but thought out. do not agree with everything, but here plus1
The Robot Devil Brave Bunnies Brave Collective 2321	Posted - 2014.04.14 01:54:00 - [76] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Honestly, we would love to run these events more frequently. There is a serious load on the dev team whenever they're made though and we're trying to prioritise things effectively right now. For instance, it shocked me to see just how much work went in to just creating custom sky-boxes, let alone the maps etc! The Titan wreck could still be used now. Have an EVE event like Caladri Navy Manhunt except have the capital ships be a few Titans over the planets we do battles on. When the Titan is destroyed in EVE have it crash into the planet and let us fight with it in the background. The asset wouln't be a one time thing, it would connect EVE and DUST more and it would be fun for both games. Do this once every few months and we would be happy, seeing that Titan jutting out of the ground was awesome and there is no reason to only use that skybox one time. "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke
Seymor Krelborn L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1896	Posted - 2014.04.14 02:12:00 - [77] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: The Headless Horseman wrote: You better hope they KEEP ignoring logi's. The so called 'events' are actually stress tests. They go by total kills and nerf/buff acordingly. Totally inaccurate...not sure where you pulled this information from :) I'm always up for hearing Event suggestions! look its ccp's new talking head! and just like the old ones its just filled with hot air do you all really need us to suggest a logi event? you all never bring any of our suggestions to fruition nor should you need to be reminded to include ALL the roles your company created in your lol events.... this game makes me sad....


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