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waistr
DEAD-MEN-WALKING
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Posted - 2014.04.06 17:55:00 -
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So why are all the events skewed so against logis?
Nova Knife event Logi friendly? - nope
Operation Mauler Logi friendly? - nope
Side Arm show down Logi Friendly? we don't even have a side arm slot
So CCP how about an event we can shine in?
OPPERATION REP TOOL CIRCLE JERK
Have 3 or more logis all repping each other for fun and prize's
Speak up brothers!
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Delta90212
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
399
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Posted - 2014.04.06 17:57:00 -
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Heavy event was pretty decent for logis every match i had lots of +25 triage points pop
Fear The Tribes // In Rust We Trust // Standings Minmatar 6 // Minmatar Logibro //
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Vulpes Dolosus
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
1319
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Posted - 2014.04.06 17:58:00 -
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Hopefully there's something in the works.
Though I'm sad they missed the opportunity for a Logi x Heavy event during valentines day.
Me in my ADS: 1,2
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Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
873
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Posted - 2014.04.06 17:59:00 -
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Delta90212 wrote:Heavy event was pretty decent for logis every match i had lots of +25 triage points pop
Didn't get you any extra SP, ISK or gear. You would have found a way to get those WP anyway.
1.8 better then 1.7 but not by much.
Henchmen21: Infantry
Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
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Athena Sentinel
SOE Knights Templar
201
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Posted - 2014.04.06 18:02:00 -
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YA AN ACTIVE EQUPIMENT LOGI EVENT
I am so sick of passive logi drops topping the leaderboards. Lets make Logi more of an active role - More points for repping and scanning! |
The Headless Horseman
Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire
177
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Posted - 2014.04.10 13:40:00 -
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You better hope they KEEP ignoring logi's. The so called 'events' are actually stress tests. They go by total kills and nerf/buff acordingly. Slayer logi days are numbered. I believe they are next to see the axe man.
Signed, Sealed, Delivered
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CCP Saberwing
C C P C C P Alliance
3461
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Posted - 2014.04.10 13:53:00 -
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The Headless Horseman wrote:You better hope they KEEP ignoring logi's. The so called 'events' are actually stress tests. They go by total kills and nerf/buff acordingly. Totally inaccurate...not sure where you pulled this information from :) I'm always up for hearing Event suggestions!
CCP Saberwing // DUST 514 Community Manager // @kanafchian
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
3831
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Posted - 2014.04.10 14:02:00 -
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An event in which all WP not gained via kills is doubled.
No.
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Sole Fenychs
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
268
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Posted - 2014.04.10 14:18:00 -
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A Logi event should not be about doubling equipment WP or anything like that. Rather, it should actually reward you for being a Logi. And a Logi without ordinary suits alongside them isn't a real Logi.
How about this: After being supported by a Logi - Be it revival or healing or nanohives or drop uplinks - A player gets a bonus to their WP gain. At the same time, a Logi gets a bonus similar to the dropship's transport assist/squad leader commission. The result would be people making use of Logi assistance without every single player feeling the need to become a Logi. Everyone is glad about their added WP, while the Logis get an extreme boost depending on how good they are. In fact, the WP pay-out would be the biggest if most players aren't Logis.
If you just increase the WP rewards for Logis, you'll have equipment everywhere, with people getting frustrated at not getting any WP for their particular nanohive.
If you grant rewards for Logi dependance, you'll have heavies, commandos and assaults that clump up with Logis and try to have massive fights with repair, revive and nanohive support. Scouts and solo players will prefer to spawn from drop uplinks and go for aggressive engagements to make the most of their temporary WP boosts.
There is only one issue with my proposal: It would need to be limited to Logi-used equipment. And there is currently no way to see which pieces of equipment have been placed by a Logi. The lack of repair indicator is also an issue.
I'm also not sure how scanners would interact with this model. Aren't they currently limited to only showing their scans to squad members? Would be kinda sad if non-squad Gallente Logis got the short end of the stick. |
dent 308
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
2726
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Posted - 2014.04.10 14:21:00 -
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Relevant :
http://www.reddit.com/r/subdreddit/wiki/minmatar_logibro
Victor Laszlo: ... If we stop breathing, we'll die. If we stop fighting our enemies, the world will die.
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WUT ANG
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
170
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Posted - 2014.04.10 14:25:00 -
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How about every 2k reps given while being in a logi suit nets you 500sp. Friendly fire excluded!
Minmatar all the way.
Weapon sp refund please
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dent 308
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
2726
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Posted - 2014.04.10 14:27:00 -
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WUT ANG wrote:How about every 2k reps given while being in a logi suit nets you 500sp. Friendly fire excluded!
I could go for this. Be advised I have broken 20k for reps given in a match. That was running good tools and going flat out.
Victor Laszlo: ... If we stop breathing, we'll die. If we stop fighting our enemies, the world will die.
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Martin0 Brancaleone
Maphia Clan Corporation
522
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Posted - 2014.04.10 14:27:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:The Headless Horseman wrote:You better hope they KEEP ignoring logi's. The so called 'events' are actually stress tests. They go by total kills and nerf/buff acordingly. Totally inaccurate...not sure where you pulled this information from :) I'm always up for hearing Event suggestions!
For the next week every revive done when using a logi suit gives you 1000sp.
or
Every 100hp of armor repaired
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every 5 people spawning on you uplinks
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every 5 people resupplied by nanohives
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every scan-assist.
Or proto logi suits instead of sp.
You know, kills aren't the only important thing in this game. |
Emo Ghost
106
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Posted - 2014.04.10 14:47:00 -
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But the Amarr logi has a side arm....
My likes= How many people dislike General John Ripper. -ê(n+ÇGêç´)-ê
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Appia Vibbia
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
2064
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Posted - 2014.04.10 14:49:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:The Headless Horseman wrote:You better hope they KEEP ignoring logi's. The so called 'events' are actually stress tests. They go by total kills and nerf/buff acordingly. Totally inaccurate...not sure where you pulled this information from :) I'm always up for hearing Event suggestions!
Need more Templar Manhunt events. Everyone loved that. Many were disappointed they weren't selected. Someone said you'd do another like it in the future. It's been around a year since that event, we need one for Gallente. Only since BPOs are out of the question just give us Officer gear for it!
Appia Vibbia for CPM1
AppiaVibbia(at)gmail(dot)com
AKA Nappia, AKA Mathppia
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Shadow Archeus
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
370
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Posted - 2014.04.10 14:52:00 -
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Shut up logi make top of the scoreboard every time anyway....asking for an event when you already makre the most isk and sp per match anyway....wtf people
Real heavies use lasers
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Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
2161
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Posted - 2014.04.10 16:23:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:The Headless Horseman wrote:You better hope they KEEP ignoring logi's. The so called 'events' are actually stress tests. They go by total kills and nerf/buff acordingly. Totally inaccurate...not sure where you pulled this information from :) I'm always up for hearing Event suggestions!
I agree that events are stresstests. I really like the rewards and that's why I put up with them (I would probably do anything for more SP) but damn: These kill events really get to me. Because they add a new level of frustration. A Kill Assist suddenly isn't something I don't care about anymore. Suddenly a Kill Assist becomes a defeat.
And a few hundred kills may not seem much when you can do them with equipment of your choice, but during these events the weapon or suit you have to use is predetermined. To get the 375 kills for the last event I blew about 10 - 15 million ISK. And I only used advanced gear. I probably died at least 500 times.
It also rewards being egoistic: Running in front of your teammates to make sure they can't hit a target. Trying your hardest to steal kills. During these events you become a liability for your squad an your team.
I think this has to change. Events like kill events should be community events as long as we only have PvP. Of course you don't have to be as generous as you were during the last community event (I won't stop you, but giving every player 2 - 3 Million SP would probably be overkill). But something like "For every kill done over the weekend with Suit X / Weapon Y every player gets 100SP, Boosters do not apply, capped at Z SP" would be fine. This is how I would want to see events play out. It doesn't take away from the teamplay and it also doesn't add a new rage factor to the game. Quite contrary: Should you get killed with a mentioned weapon you can think "Well, at least I contributed to the event in some way!"
These events which force you personally to achieve a certain amount of kills with a certain equipment are something you can reintroduce when we have PvE. Because PvE I then could always do alone or with some friends. Much less of a rage factor.
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Gelhad Thremyr
Quebec United
215
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Posted - 2014.04.10 16:31:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:The Headless Horseman wrote:You better hope they KEEP ignoring logi's. The so called 'events' are actually stress tests. They go by total kills and nerf/buff acordingly. Totally inaccurate...not sure where you pulled this information from :) I'm always up for hearing Event suggestions!
1- 1000 SP per MCC drop suicide with a proto suit 2- 1000 SP per grenade suicide with a proto suit 3- 1000 SP per DropShip ramming into tanks 4- 1000 SP per LAV speed jumping and ramming into DropShips |
Maximus Stryker
Who Are Those Guys
893
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Posted - 2014.04.10 16:38:00 -
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if you use a rep tool regularly, then you should know that every event and every game is an event for us...the WP and SP just roll in
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Tony Duster
K-A-O-S theory
4
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Posted - 2014.04.10 16:43:00 -
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I feel like 5x on wp's isn't so bad. 125wp per rep or spawn is pretty huge. 300wp on a revive. More for squad action too! Numbers like that make me a logi machine. Yeah it applies to everyone unlike some of the latest events, but I'm always seeing QQ on the forums about how much WP logis can get. I'm digging these events as a logi. |
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danie sous
DUST BRASIL S.A Proficiency V.
0
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Posted - 2014.04.10 17:17:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:The Headless Horseman wrote:You better hope they KEEP ignoring logi's. The so called 'events' are actually stress tests. They go by total kills and nerf/buff acordingly. Totally inaccurate...not sure where you pulled this information from :) I'm always up for hearing Event suggestions!
War points per repair/nanites given!!!!! Uplinks will be absolute spam. |
RKKR
The Southern Legion League of Infamy
903
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Posted - 2014.04.10 17:26:00 -
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I would like a revive-event...were every motherfuckers with a MLT injector beats you to the corpse because they have better stamina stats and don't care about you surviving.
I would like to suggest the following kneejerk-suggestions: - fix-the-support-role-event - read-and-consider-feedback-from-logiplayers-next-time-event. |
Quil Evrything
Triple Terrors
1205
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Posted - 2014.04.10 17:38:00 -
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RKKR wrote:
I would like to suggest the following kneejerk-suggestions: - fix-the-support-role-event
Ooo, yes please!
I'd like to define the rules as,
* logis get bonus WP for every rep and revive. x2 or x3 * logis get adjusted WP (0 instead of 50!) for every kill * logis get marginal WP bonus stacked on the above, for every slot that does NOT have shields or armor fitted.
non-logis get bonuses... for helping logis survive! So, since everyone can fit a rep or injector, bonus WP for using either of them on a logi Healing nanohives also count if they heal a logi. |
Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
87
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Posted - 2014.04.10 18:09:00 -
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"Eager Medic" Event: Earn 10x WP for every merc who dies within 1 second of being revived.
Bang?
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SponkSponkSponk
The Southern Legion League of Infamy
726
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Posted - 2014.04.11 02:49:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:"Eager Medic" Event: Earn 10x WP for every merc who dies within 1 second of being revived.
"I'm a blueberry farmer. The harvest is good this year."
o/
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J4yne C0bb
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
312
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Posted - 2014.04.11 03:00:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:The Headless Horseman wrote:You better hope they KEEP ignoring logi's. The so called 'events' are actually stress tests. They go by total kills and nerf/buff acordingly. Totally inaccurate...not sure where you pulled this information from :) I'm always up for hearing Event suggestions! Really? I've always assumed this was the case. I figured that the reason you guys give out free aurum items is because you are trying to get data on that particular item's usage, for testing and balance purposes. That way you can cast a wider 'data net', for mercs that will never skill into or buy the items -- like giving away the free aurum versions of the commando suits you just released. You guys get data, and mercs get free stuff, works out for everybody.
That's really not the case, huh?
Min Logi | aka Punch R0ckgroin, Fatsuit
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KING CHECKMATE
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
4993
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Posted - 2014.04.11 03:02:00 -
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waistr wrote:So why are all the events skewed so against logis?
Nova Knife event Logi friendly? - nope
Operation Mauler Logi friendly? - nope
Side Arm show down Logi Friendly? we don't even have a side arm slot
So CCP how about an event we can shine in?
OPPERATION REP TOOL CIRCLE JERK
Have 3 or more logis all repping each other for fun and prize's
Speak up brothers!
Logis had the spot light long enough. Go back to your cave ,troll.
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Foundation Seldon
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
612
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Posted - 2014.04.11 03:03:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:The Headless Horseman wrote:You better hope they KEEP ignoring logi's. The so called 'events' are actually stress tests. They go by total kills and nerf/buff acordingly. Totally inaccurate...not sure where you pulled this information from :) I'm always up for hearing Event suggestions!
Vehicle Kill Assist + Small/Large Turret kill event. Skew it so that you get more SP from the vehicle kill assist side to encourage vehicle team play during the event.
Saga v. Methana Balance
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TODDSTER024
Revive Repair Resupply
195
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Posted - 2014.04.11 03:13:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:The Headless Horseman wrote:You better hope they KEEP ignoring logi's. The so called 'events' are actually stress tests. They go by total kills and nerf/buff acordingly. Totally inaccurate...not sure where you pulled this information from :) I'm always up for hearing Event suggestions!
Theres no end of the match stat for revives , total healing given could be a factor. WP and SP are nice but I would prefer a higher isk payout. Running a proto min logi with proto equipment and enough mods to support it are very costly. My fittings cost 200k, my payout is normally about 250k . If i die twice im at a loss no matter how well i support my team |
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CCP Saberwing
C C P C C P Alliance
3539
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Posted - 2014.04.11 03:19:00 -
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We definitely do pull metrics and data from the game but that's not the only reason we gift free stuff! We're generally doing it to encourage people to participate in the events and sometimes...occasionally...because we find it in the deepest depths of our dark hearts to be nice
CCP Saberwing // DUST 514 Community Manager // @kanafchian
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