This is just an idea .

With the threads being full of the little guys who are having their asses kicked by DNS , why , if it's such a major issue don't the people take the power back .

It seems a handful of players are running the show on Dust at the moment and it seems CPM Kane Spero is the big cheese of the operation . While I do find it a little insulting when you now have this marauder guy claiming to be acting in the interest of the 'community' , why don't the community take a stand .

I'll explain : let's take a look at CCP's native country Iceland for a moment . A few years ago their elected democratic leaders who actually turned out to be dictators , screwed the people over something rotten . What the people of Iceland did next was realise they were the ones with the power . They boycotted the system they had in place , threw the tyrants out and are now living in a free and prosperous nation.

What I'm saying is ,why not apply that philosophy to Dust ? AE are constantly posting horsesh!t about doing stuff to force CCP's hand in certain matters . So why don't us little guys take this idea of forcing CCP's hand.

If everyone is fed up of being bullied by these sh!theads who have no honour then do exactly that. Boycott the system , oust Spero and the rest of the merry men . DNS make up just under 1/5 of the dust community . They like CCP need US ! All is fair in love and war . Stop logging on , force CCP to put measures in place so the little guy can make a stand . Demand elections to be held so people can be put in place to help the little guy when rules and regulations are broken . Put a true democratically elected system in place who's terms and agreements will be enforced by CCP should someone happen to break them .

Remember like in the real world our governments need US . When we start saying NO change must come . Recognise the power of the little guy

Not another Revolution please... These things never work out....

But but Ufara was my favorite make up brand, and the FEC was my favorite tv channel.

Believe me Alaska I was where you are now my friend . I too vouched to go down swinging which I inevitably did , for your ethic you have my respect and admiration .

Whilst I realise what I have suggested is a dirty tactic we will all be bankrupt by the time we make a dent in DNS , they have played dirty , so fight fire with fire . If 2/3 of the dust community stopped logging on CCP would have no option but to give on to our demands !!

Personally, I would rather fight back against DNS, there is honor in that. Change is on its way regardless of whether or not they control 100% and whats to say that when PC is expanded beyond Molden Heath and they fix some mechanics that DNS wont find a way to exploit that as well and take over whats added.

I'll go down swinging even if its a futile effort.

I know what your saying Alaska and I fully agree with you - but I look around at the dust community and just see a defeated player base and a couple of us little guys cannot win !! It sucks to admit it but it's the truth .

I really like dust , have loved it since I first looked at that skill tree and thought WTF do I do with this thing Lol the problem is this game very much favors veterans , in most cases if I have more sp than you then I win , it's not so much a game of skill in some sense but more who has more upgrades.

Part of the reason the community is so small is because noobs come along , get absolutely annihilated in the first couple of days and think f#@k this !! Now that DNS have robbed the PFC guys of their districts , pub matches will now become a stomping ground for bitter players and this will help turn more new players away than ever before . If you were a new player coming to dust right now would you stick around ? I used my alt the other day got about 5 million sp on him .... Haaaaaaaaaa what a laugh that was , I didn't stand a chance Lol

With that said , NAV and ROY don't think my intentions are to take over everything for the isk , I have plenty of my own . I'm not a person who is motivated by money , here or in the real world . My reward in both is helping people . I'm trying to advocate some sort of fair play rule I guess you could say where every corp no matter on experience can get their hands on some land , generate a bit of isk for their guys and have some good battles. Yes CCP may need to open up more districts for this to happen but I think the community needs to sit down , draw up some do's and do nots which could be enforced by CCP themselves . I also think this should not be a discussion by DNS who seem to make rules regs only in the interest of themselves.

Clear as mud ? Can you see where I'm going with this ?

This is just an idea .

With the threads being full of the little guys who are having their asses kicked by DNS , why , if it's such a major issue don't the people take the power back .

It seems a handful of players are running the show on Dust at the moment and it seems CPM Kane Spero is the big cheese of the operation . While I do find it a little insulting when you now have this marauder guy claiming to be acting in the interest of the 'community' , why don't the community take a stand .

I'll explain : let's take a look at CCP's native country Iceland for a moment . A few years ago their elected democratic leaders who actually turned out to be dictators , screwed the people over something rotten . What the people of Iceland did next was realise they were the ones with the power . They boycotted the system they had in place , threw the tyrants out and are now living in a free and prosperous nation.

What I'm saying is ,why not apply that philosophy to Dust ? AE are constantly posting horsesh!t about doing stuff to force CCP's hand in certain matters . So why don't us little guys take this idea of forcing CCP's hand.

If everyone is fed up of being bullied by these sh!theads who have no honour then do exactly that. Boycott the system , oust Spero and the rest of the merry men . DNS make up just under 1/5 of the dust community . They like CCP need US ! All is fair in love and war . Stop logging on , force CCP to put measures in place so the little guy can make a stand . Demand elections to be held so people can be put in place to help the little guy when rules and regulations are broken . Put a true democratically elected system in place who's terms and agreements will be enforced by CCP should someone happen to break them .

Remember like in the real world our governments need US . When we start saying NO change must come . Recognise the power of the little guy

Corrrr this crusader guy is feisty one ain't he .. Your guys must be handing out some top hand jobs to get you all fired up like that

If you can't see that I'm using a political scenario as an analogy to try and apply to a game which has a very heavy political strategy to it , then it must totally suck to be you . Let me guess , low level mercenary ? They giving you a run out against the PFC districts ?

If you think for one second think that 2 paragraphs on a forum page is a f#cking grand utopian plan then you have just reinforced the fact that it does suck to be you (key word - IDEA) As for my logic , would it work in your fantastically described EVE scenario ? F#ck no , that's rediculous , what the f#ck were you even talking about you complete divvy ? Now if you applied my logic of 2/3 of 5k player base boycotting their game to make changes to the rules I think CCP would make some pretty quick changes , sh!ttttt... Your people are living proof that CCP can be pushed into a corner when you done the same dirty little trick I'm talking about with the changing of district locking you f#cking clown ,

I can't wait for the next riveting load of sh!t you or one of leaders has to say about taking it upon themselves to change more rules in the 'interest' of the community .... Get f#cked !!

Corrrr this crusader guy is feisty one ain't he .. Your guys must be handing out some top hand jobs to get you all fired up like that

If you can't see that I'm using a political scenario as an analogy to try and apply to a game which has a very heavy political strategy to it , then it must totally suck to be you . Let me guess , low level mercenary ? They giving you a run out against the PFC districts ?

If you think for one second think that 2 paragraphs on a forum page is a f#cking grand utopian plan then you have just reinforced the fact that it does suck to be you (key word - IDEA) As for my logic , would it work in your fantastically described EVE scenario ? F#ck no , that's rediculous , what the f#ck were you even talking about you complete divvy ? Now if you applied my logic of 2/3 of 5k player base boycotting their game to make changes to the rules I think CCP would make some pretty quick changes , sh!ttttt... Your people are living proof that CCP can be pushed into a corner when you done the same dirty little trick I'm talking about with the changing of district locking you f#cking clown ,

I can't wait for the next riveting load of sh!t you or one of leaders has to say about taking it upon themselves to change more rules in the 'interest' of the community .... Get f#cked !!

Let me tell you why you are dumb. I am not a "low level mercenary", you don't play Eve so you wouldn't know me. I am MP2008 in Eve. One of the Renegade Squadron pilots who have been fighting above you in Molden Heath. I help organize and lead the now Dirt Nap Squad pilots who made Molden Heath their permanent home. I am well respected by my friends and enemies alike and when I enter system people usually notice and react accordingly.

That being said, I have been playing Eve for 7 count them, 7 years. You want to talk politics ok lets talk politics. When I first entered PC a few months back Renegade Squadron consisting of AE, NS, and DDB primarily were fighting several other high skill level Dust Corporations who are now our Alliance Mates. Those other powers realized they were getting outclassed in Space and formed a coalition under General Tso's Alliance, who began to bring significant numbers up there.

While our rivalry is intense to this day there is still some mutual respect as we had to resort to unconventional tactics for a while in order to compete. They undoubtedly had the advantage for a while. Then we merged with our LONG time ally DNS (by long time I mean before you freaking game came out at all long). DNS closed the numerical gap AND one upped General Tso's on fleet composition.

We then used our full military might to conquer the majority of Molden Heath. Partly through Military Conquest and partly through forming a coalition of the most powerful organizations in Dust 514 at the moment.

The game mode is called Planetary Conquest. We conquered it fair and square by using every available option. We Attacked districts, we formed alliances, we made friends, we made agreements. We did everything that CCP ALLOWS the players to do to achieve our goals. It is YOU who want to break the game by suggesting that the player base quit just because someone else played the Military and Geopolitical game better than you and yours.

If you want what we have come and claim it, we won it fairly.

Let me tell you why you are dumb. I am not a "low level mercenary", you don't play Eve so you wouldn't know me. I am MP2008 in Eve. One of the Renegade Squadron pilots who have been fighting above you in Molden Heath. I help organize and lead the now Dirt Nap Squad pilots who made Molden Heath their permanent home. I am well respected by my friends and enemies alike and when I enter system people usually notice and react accordingly.

That being said, I have been playing Eve for 7 count them, 7 years. You want to talk politics ok lets talk politics. When I first entered PC a few months back Renegade Squadron consisting of AE, NS, and DDB primarily were fighting several other high skill level Dust Corporations who are now our Alliance Mates. Those other powers realized they were getting outclassed in Space and formed a coalition under General Tso's Alliance, who began to bring significant numbers up there.

While our rivalry is intense to this day there is still some mutual respect as we had to resort to unconventional tactics for a while in order to compete. They undoubtedly had the advantage for a while. Then we merged with our LONG time ally DNS (by long time I mean before you freaking game came out at all long). DNS closed the numerical gap AND one upped General Tso's on fleet composition.

We then used our full military might to conquer the majority of Molden Heath. Partly through Military Conquest and partly through forming a coalition of the most powerful organizations in Dust 514 at the moment.

The game mode is called Planetary Conquest. We conquered it fair and square by using every available option. We Attacked districts, we formed alliances, we made friends, we made agreements. We did everything that CCP ALLOWS the players to do to achieve our goals. It is YOU who want to break the game by suggesting that the player base quit just because someone else played the Military and Geopolitical game better than you and yours.

If you want what we have come and claim it, we won it fairly.

You forgot the part where Dust slowly crumbles and dies. Yeah, you can just continue playing EVE once all this is over, but I've invested far too much into Dust to have it just stagnate and crumble.

Just because you can, doesn't mean you should, and it doesn't make it any less deplorable. CCP is losing money, and they are going to keep losing money if the players don't have any reason to give it to them. It's obvious that, in it's current state, it is not economically viable to enter PC no matter how good your corporation/alliance is. Since there's no foreseeable advancement, players won't spend money to make futile attempts at it. I won't stop playing Dust, but I have stopped spending money on it, and I know many others are doing the same. If you're the business and politics kingpin that you claim to be, then it should be obvious what the end result is here. CCP will ultimately have to cut their losses and discontinue the project, they're a business. They can't keep dumping time and resources into a money pit.

I've noticed Dust Players are far less patient than Eve players. When EVE first started it had almost no content now it's one of the most complicated games ever made. Give it time.