This is just an idea .

With the threads being full of the little guys who are having their asses kicked by DNS , why , if it's such a major issue don't the people take the power back .

It seems a handful of players are running the show on Dust at the moment and it seems CPM Kane Spero is the big cheese of the operation . While I do find it a little insulting when you now have this marauder guy claiming to be acting in the interest of the 'community' , why don't the community take a stand .

I'll explain : let's take a look at CCP's native country Iceland for a moment . A few years ago their elected democratic leaders who actually turned out to be dictators , screwed the people over something rotten . What the people of Iceland did next was realise they were the ones with the power . They boycotted the system they had in place , threw the tyrants out and are now living in a free and prosperous nation.

What I'm saying is ,why not apply that philosophy to Dust ? AE are constantly posting horsesh!t about doing stuff to force CCP's hand in certain matters . So why don't us little guys take this idea of forcing CCP's hand.

If everyone is fed up of being bullied by these sh!theads who have no honour then do exactly that. Boycott the system , oust Spero and the rest of the merry men . DNS make up just under 1/5 of the dust community . They like CCP need US ! All is fair in love and war . Stop logging on , force CCP to put measures in place so the little guy can make a stand . Demand elections to be held so people can be put in place to help the little guy when rules and regulations are broken . Put a true democratically elected system in place who's terms and agreements will be enforced by CCP should someone happen to break them .

Remember like in the real world our governments need US . When we start saying NO change must come . Recognise the power of the little guy

Corrrr this crusader guy is feisty one ain't he .. Your guys must be handing out some top hand jobs to get you all fired up like that

If you can't see that I'm using a political scenario as an analogy to try and apply to a game which has a very heavy political strategy to it , then it must totally suck to be you . Let me guess , low level mercenary ? They giving you a run out against the PFC districts ?

If you think for one second think that 2 paragraphs on a forum page is a f#cking grand utopian plan then you have just reinforced the fact that it does suck to be you (key word - IDEA) As for my logic , would it work in your fantastically described EVE scenario ? F#ck no , that's rediculous , what the f#ck were you even talking about you complete divvy ? Now if you applied my logic of 2/3 of 5k player base boycotting their game to make changes to the rules I think CCP would make some pretty quick changes , sh!ttttt... Your people are living proof that CCP can be pushed into a corner when you done the same dirty little trick I'm talking about with the changing of district locking you f#cking clown ,

I can't wait for the next riveting load of sh!t you or one of leaders has to say about taking it upon themselves to change more rules in the 'interest' of the community .... Get f#cked !!

You forgot the part where Dust slowly crumbles and dies. Yeah, you can just continue playing EVE once all this is over, but I've invested far too much into Dust to have it just stagnate and crumble.

Just because you can, doesn't mean you should, and it doesn't make it any less deplorable. CCP is losing money, and they are going to keep losing money if the players don't have any reason to give it to them. It's obvious that, in it's current state, it is not economically viable to enter PC no matter how good your corporation/alliance is. Since there's no foreseeable advancement, players won't spend money to make futile attempts at it. I won't stop playing Dust, but I have stopped spending money on it, and I know many others are doing the same. If you're the business and politics kingpin that you claim to be, then it should be obvious what the end result is here. CCP will ultimately have to cut their losses and discontinue the project, they're a business. They can't keep dumping time and resources into a money pit.

Ok, so this is a pretty cool debate here first so I'm no longer inn troll mode. So let me drop a few things here. I am putting bullet points here but not to be a **** just to keep my ideas from getting tangled lol.

1) Dust uses some of the same tech as EVE so in essence they can port over to another counsel without changing your skills, isk history ect. So excluding what ever hurdles CCP has on that with legal mumbo jumbo they should have options there. If they are using that same model it should work out in the end with the shifting counsels.

2) there are currently like 5400 systems in New Eden and 7200 temperate planets in the universe and only one region out of about 60-64 regions in the universe. Now some are Highsec space and some are SOV space, the equivalent to Molden Heath in eve. So there is a really wide playground untapped waiting to be used. If/When CCP opens up more of that it will most likely be difficult to control multiple regions.

3) New Eden as a whole is not a democracy, I agree there needs to be more added to dust to make it more little guy friendly. In the end CCP should end up doing something for that.

4) Rite now there is no real monetary gain for the eve side and no real way to get isk back and forth this will happen CCP reps have said "we are working on it" I know they are. If you didn't know CCP has actual economists on staff for stuff like that. Now that being said when there is real isk when your work pays into some larger cause or drive beyond what is going on now things are going to get crazy. Then you will have a rush and land grab the likes you have never seen yet. There should be a future rush and waves of newer players around that. You guys all of you will be the Old Guard and in the end have the power. The groups alliances and bonds you work on now will matter when that day comes. In new eden your enemies some times end up being your friends in the end. In the larger picture the largest EVE side groups have 90% of the power and control. http://dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/Verite/influence.png That's what the universe looks like. The people that own whole regions of space there have more ISK than you would believe when they get interested and have incentive in what we do here life will change maybe for the better maybe for the worse. But you folks will be the A teams of that front. I would have my merc. hat ready when that comes.

5) If DNS keeps the PFC thing going great if not then no big. I know you guys are pretty pissed about it but in the end it is the reality. I see the MH conquest as an interesting chapter in my eve/dust career.

6) Timers, ok so I will be the first to admit I am not the expert on Dust side timers but I can tell you that on the EVE side the same "problem" exists. It sucks when some one out side of your time zone takes a dump on your stuff and you have to sit there and take it. This is not new. The only solution to that is more people larger groups ect. Trying to be the lone ranger corp. will fail most of the time. Some one has got to watch your back when RL kicks in.

7) When you say a "Dust Council" Do you mean the reps that talk to CCP or what. Because it is unrealistic to think that CCP will hop in and settle disputes. Or that having a council that can run everything will end up being a good thing. Hell you guys say Kane is ****** and stuff imagine the next guy lol. The CCP reps from our end will be voted for at some time and it is not a life time appointment so breath a little on that.

8) Dust is on a cycle just like eve, expect something big at fan fest. This is the normal progression for a CCP universe. The updates slow down before big changes and updates.

9) Some of you act like Dust will die all doom and gloom about it my guess is you will probably quit in time if that's your mindset. And that's fine to some one will replace you and in about 6 months to a year dust will do something new and you'll try to get back into it. This is how EVE works as well. You can't throw a rock with out hearing a I was there back in such and such and came back for what ever is new. This is part of that wave process I am talking about.

10) What DNS is doing, ok so I have said it before I will say it again if you don't like it band togather and come take it. It is not impossible damned difficult but not impossible. In conquest of any type if you own it you make the rules. We own it so when in our house applies. Either join the "Cause" get out of the way or come take it back. Can you do it sure, would I be butt hurt if you did nope. There is always a bigger bad ass in New Eden than you that is fact and applies to all of us.

Ok that's my response do with it what you will.