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shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
1886
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Posted - 2014.04.21 16:04:00 -
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Leonid Tybalt wrote:shaman oga wrote:ADS are fine imo, while terrestrial ramming in a lot of case doesn't lead to death, aerail ramming is one of the more disgusting tecniques and broken mechanic in this game.
I'm disgusted from all the players who use this tecnique to destroy another dropship, no matter if it is ADS or normal DS, if you ram DS you are a piece of sh!t. You're a piece of **** when you engage ground targets with an ADS that has exactly 0 chance of being able to shoot back. Gettingkamikaze rammed by a cheap MLT dropship is completely deserved.
Skill forgeguns, call a tank, there are several ways to kill a DS, zero respect for aerial rammers and jihad bombers, they are all sh!tty players, calling them noobs would be a offense to the poor noobs.
The unnamed new build it's so secret that nobody know what will be in it, even after patch notes..
\o/ summon me
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THEPIMP NAMED SLICKBACK
RisingSuns
Dark Taboo
4
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Posted - 2014.04.21 16:04:00 -
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+1 python pilot always get 2 shot down from 2 shots and half my deaths are from assholes who dropship ram because they wanted to upgrade from their jhad lavs its just people who are two lazy and can't use teamwork to bring down a dropship it's so easy just get 2 forge gunners to fire at you at the same time with a breach same for tanks teamwork is the key against av everyone's just looking for the quick fix that's what makes the game hard to play everyone doesn't want to try when it gets hard any more this game reminds me of BF3 and BF4 just a bunch of trolls bored of the game wanting to be assholes to other players. Also i have nothing against jhads with re's its a good tatic against proto tank spam. |
THEPIMP NAMED SLICKBACK
RisingSuns
Dark Taboo
4
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Posted - 2014.04.21 16:10:00 -
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Leonid Tybalt wrote:shaman oga wrote:ADS are fine imo, while terrestrial ramming in a lot of case doesn't lead to death, aerail ramming is one of the more disgusting tecniques and broken mechanic in this game.
I'm disgusted from all the players who use this tecnique to destroy another dropship, no matter if it is ADS or normal DS, if you ram DS you are a piece of sh!t. You're a piece of **** when you engage ground targets with an ADS that has exactly 0 chance of being able to shoot back. Gettingkamikaze rammed by a cheap MLT dropship is completely deserved.
oh i'm sorry i guess i'm supposed to have a 20 min dropship battle with another ADS. That's what the ADS is for and 0 chance to shoot back swarms and forge guns are an option your just to lazy to swap fits |
Leonid Tybalt
Inner.Hell
476
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Posted - 2014.04.21 16:13:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:Leonid Tybalt wrote:shaman oga wrote:ADS are fine imo, while terrestrial ramming in a lot of case doesn't lead to death, aerail ramming is one of the more disgusting tecniques and broken mechanic in this game.
I'm disgusted from all the players who use this tecnique to destroy another dropship, no matter if it is ADS or normal DS, if you ram DS you are a piece of sh!t. You're a piece of **** when you engage ground targets with an ADS that has exactly 0 chance of being able to shoot back. Gettingkamikaze rammed by a cheap MLT dropship is completely deserved. Skill forgeguns, call a tank, there are several ways to kill a DS, zero respect for aerial rammers and jihad bombers, they are all sh!tty players, calling them noobs would be a offense to the poor noobs.
If it works, then it works.
I've been taonking since 1.6, but you don't see me getting butthurt over losing a tank to a Jihad LAV. The player who rams me just made do with what he had, and apparently it succeeded. Kudos to him for playing it smart.
You're just a sore loser. |
Leonid Tybalt
Inner.Hell
476
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Posted - 2014.04.21 16:16:00 -
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THEPIMP NAMED SLICKBACK wrote:Leonid Tybalt wrote:shaman oga wrote:ADS are fine imo, while terrestrial ramming in a lot of case doesn't lead to death, aerail ramming is one of the more disgusting tecniques and broken mechanic in this game.
I'm disgusted from all the players who use this tecnique to destroy another dropship, no matter if it is ADS or normal DS, if you ram DS you are a piece of sh!t. You're a piece of **** when you engage ground targets with an ADS that has exactly 0 chance of being able to shoot back. Gettingkamikaze rammed by a cheap MLT dropship is completely deserved. oh i'm sorry i guess i'm supposed to have a 20 min dropship battle with another ADS. That's what the ADS is for and 0 chance to shoot back swarms and forge guns are an option your just to lazy to swap fits
Your whining doesn't concern me in the slightest. You had it coming when you spend entire matches hunting defendeless infantry with small missile launchers.
I am skilled into AV, and I do swap fits. But against certain dropships it just doesn't help because all they do is harden up and climb skywards out of reach from all AV like the chickenshits they (you) are.
When you're soloing in dropships, you are in no position to question the "ethics" of other players. |
THEPIMP NAMED SLICKBACK
RisingSuns
Dark Taboo
4
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Posted - 2014.04.21 16:19:00 -
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Leonid Tybalt wrote:shaman oga wrote:Leonid Tybalt wrote:shaman oga wrote:ADS are fine imo, while terrestrial ramming in a lot of case doesn't lead to death, aerail ramming is one of the more disgusting tecniques and broken mechanic in this game.
I'm disgusted from all the players who use this tecnique to destroy another dropship, no matter if it is ADS or normal DS, if you ram DS you are a piece of sh!t. You're a piece of **** when you engage ground targets with an ADS that has exactly 0 chance of being able to shoot back. Gettingkamikaze rammed by a cheap MLT dropship is completely deserved. Skill forgeguns, call a tank, there are several ways to kill a DS, zero respect for aerial rammers and jihad bombers, they are all sh!tty players, calling them noobs would be a offense to the poor noobs. If it works, then it works. I've been taonking since 1.6, but you don't see me getting butthurt over losing a tank to a Jihad LAV. The player who rams me just made do with what he had, and apparently it succeeded. Kudos to him for playing it smart. You're just a sore loser.
I have no problem with jhad lavs its a good tatic to tank spam and i always hear that thing riding its way in the map on the bolas near a supply depot so i make sure i get high ground and avoid it and normally i blow up supply depots in the spawn so i know the jhads losing a good suit |
Leonid Tybalt
Inner.Hell
477
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Posted - 2014.04.21 16:20:00 -
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THEPIMP NAMED SLICKBACK wrote:+1 python pilot always get 2 shot down from 2 shots and half my deaths are from assholes who dropship ram because they wanted to upgrade from their jhad lavs its just people who are two lazy and can't use teamwork to bring down a dropship it's so easy just get 2 forge gunners to fire at you at the same time with a breach same for tanks teamwork is the key against av everyone's just looking for the quick fix that's what makes the game hard to play everyone doesn't want to try when it gets hard any more this game reminds me of BF3 and BF4 just a bunch of trolls bored of the game wanting to be assholes to other players. Also i have nothing against jhads with re's its a good tatic against proto tank spam.
Once again: why should your enemies be forced to resort to teamwork to bring YOU (I.e ONE PERSON) down? Why should you be perfectly capable of racking up solo kill after solo kill, while everybody else has to team up to even have a chance at taking you down? |
THEPIMP NAMED SLICKBACK
RisingSuns
Dark Taboo
4
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Posted - 2014.04.21 16:22:00 -
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Leonid Tybalt wrote:THEPIMP NAMED SLICKBACK wrote:Leonid Tybalt wrote:shaman oga wrote:ADS are fine imo, while terrestrial ramming in a lot of case doesn't lead to death, aerail ramming is one of the more disgusting tecniques and broken mechanic in this game.
I'm disgusted from all the players who use this tecnique to destroy another dropship, no matter if it is ADS or normal DS, if you ram DS you are a piece of sh!t. You're a piece of **** when you engage ground targets with an ADS that has exactly 0 chance of being able to shoot back. Gettingkamikaze rammed by a cheap MLT dropship is completely deserved. oh i'm sorry i guess i'm supposed to have a 20 min dropship battle with another ADS. That's what the ADS is for and 0 chance to shoot back swarms and forge guns are an option your just to lazy to swap fits Your whining doesn't concern me in the slightest. You had it coming when you spend entire matches hunting defendeless infantry with small missile launchers. I am skilled into AV, and I do swap fits. But against certain dropships it just doesn't help because all they do is harden up and climb skywards out of reach from all AV like the chickenshits they (you) are. When you're soloing in dropships, you are in no position to question the "ethics" of other players.
With the price of dropships price now its a smart tactic to pull back when under heavy av fire same for tanks and everyone does that when running infantry its common sense im just trying to state my opinion. No need to keep going on man |
shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
1886
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Posted - 2014.04.21 16:26:00 -
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Leonid Tybalt wrote:shaman oga wrote:Leonid Tybalt wrote:shaman oga wrote:ADS are fine imo, while terrestrial ramming in a lot of case doesn't lead to death, aerail ramming is one of the more disgusting tecniques and broken mechanic in this game.
I'm disgusted from all the players who use this tecnique to destroy another dropship, no matter if it is ADS or normal DS, if you ram DS you are a piece of sh!t. You're a piece of **** when you engage ground targets with an ADS that has exactly 0 chance of being able to shoot back. Gettingkamikaze rammed by a cheap MLT dropship is completely deserved. Skill forgeguns, call a tank, there are several ways to kill a DS, zero respect for aerial rammers and jihad bombers, they are all sh!tty players, calling them noobs would be a offense to the poor noobs. If it works, then it works. I've been taonking since 1.6, but you don't see me getting butthurt over losing a tank to a Jihad LAV. The player who rams me just made do with what he had, and apparently it succeeded. Kudos to him for playing it smart. You're just a sore loser.
A jihad jeep can destroy your tank, again & again & again & again & again & again.....
No matter if you are good or not, but probably you are defending it because you are not good enough to kill some tankers and you have to use jihad jeeps.
Get good.
The unnamed new build it's so secret that nobody know what will be in it, even after patch notes..
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THEPIMP NAMED SLICKBACK
RisingSuns
Dark Taboo
4
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Posted - 2014.04.21 16:26:00 -
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Leonid Tybalt wrote:THEPIMP NAMED SLICKBACK wrote:+1 python pilot always get 2 shot down from 2 shots and half my deaths are from assholes who dropship ram because they wanted to upgrade from their jhad lavs its just people who are two lazy and can't use teamwork to bring down a dropship it's so easy just get 2 forge gunners to fire at you at the same time with a breach same for tanks teamwork is the key against av everyone's just looking for the quick fix that's what makes the game hard to play everyone doesn't want to try when it gets hard any more this game reminds me of BF3 and BF4 just a bunch of trolls bored of the game wanting to be assholes to other players. Also i have nothing against jhads with re's its a good tatic against proto tank spam. Once again: why should your enemies be forced to resort to teamwork to bring YOU (I.e ONE PERSON) down? Why should you be perfectly capable of racking up solo kill after solo kill, while everybody else has to team up to even have a chance at taking you down?
Sounds like your still living in the older builds when one proto swarm or forge camps on a tower popping tanks by yourself left in right i like the av in this game currently hardeners are nerfed and railguns have reduced range all railguns need is the removal of automatic fire |
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
462
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Posted - 2014.04.21 16:31:00 -
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-1
They'd likely be fine if Swarms weren't craptastic.
Bang?
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THEPIMP NAMED SLICKBACK
RisingSuns
Dark Taboo
4
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Posted - 2014.04.21 16:32:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:Leonid Tybalt wrote:shaman oga wrote:Leonid Tybalt wrote:shaman oga wrote:ADS are fine imo, while terrestrial ramming in a lot of case doesn't lead to death, aerail ramming is one of the more disgusting tecniques and broken mechanic in this game.
I'm disgusted from all the players who use this tecnique to destroy another dropship, no matter if it is ADS or normal DS, if you ram DS you are a piece of sh!t. You're a piece of **** when you engage ground targets with an ADS that has exactly 0 chance of being able to shoot back. Gettingkamikaze rammed by a cheap MLT dropship is completely deserved. Skill forgeguns, call a tank, there are several ways to kill a DS, zero respect for aerial rammers and jihad bombers, they are all sh!tty players, calling them noobs would be a offense to the poor noobs. If it works, then it works. I've been taonking since 1.6, but you don't see me getting butthurt over losing a tank to a Jihad LAV. The player who rams me just made do with what he had, and apparently it succeeded. Kudos to him for playing it smart. You're just a sore loser. A jihad jeep can destroy your tank, again & again & again & again & again & again..... No matter if you are good or not, but probably you are defending it because you are not good enough to kill some tankers and you have to use jihad jeeps. Get good.
I have only jhaded 5 times in this game and they deserved it example a guy running a proto blaster madugar ass raping our team running with 3 jhads in his squad to protect him i get jhaded and were going to be cloned if i don't deal with him took a cal logi and jhaded the tank he never called another one in and we won the game with 3 clones remaining its a good tactic and im not the best tanker im okay at tanking |
Leonid Tybalt
Inner.Hell
477
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Posted - 2014.04.21 17:11:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:Leonid Tybalt wrote:shaman oga wrote:Leonid Tybalt wrote:shaman oga wrote:ADS are fine imo, while terrestrial ramming in a lot of case doesn't lead to death, aerail ramming is one of the more disgusting tecniques and broken mechanic in this game.
I'm disgusted from all the players who use this tecnique to destroy another dropship, no matter if it is ADS or normal DS, if you ram DS you are a piece of sh!t. You're a piece of **** when you engage ground targets with an ADS that has exactly 0 chance of being able to shoot back. Gettingkamikaze rammed by a cheap MLT dropship is completely deserved. Skill forgeguns, call a tank, there are several ways to kill a DS, zero respect for aerial rammers and jihad bombers, they are all sh!tty players, calling them noobs would be a offense to the poor noobs. If it works, then it works. I've been taonking since 1.6, but you don't see me getting butthurt over losing a tank to a Jihad LAV. The player who rams me just made do with what he had, and apparently it succeeded. Kudos to him for playing it smart. You're just a sore loser. A jihad jeep can destroy your tank, again & again & again & again & again & again..... No matter if you are good or not, but probably you are defending it because you are not good enough to kill some tankers and you have to use jihad jeeps. Get good.
Oh the irony, YOU telling ME to "get good"? 
I have 17 million skillpoints into tanks. I can use the proto level versions of all turrets. Almost all of my vehicle upgrade skills are at lvl 5.
When it comes to tanking, im one of the better players in this game. And I kill other tanks for a living in PC battles as well as in pubs. And I am most certainly a better tanker than you because I rarely fall for the same Jihad LAV trick twice in one match.
When you see a LAV coming towards you and you're in a tank, then chances are he's going to jihad you. Smart move would be to shoot the LAV (like I do, and clearly you do not, since you're so butthurt about it).
The reason i'm defending it has nothing to do with that I supposedly use Jihad LAVs myself (frankly, I don't have a single skillpoint into remote explosives so I couldn't even if I wanted to). My reasons are:
A. I know that it's pretty much the only viable way for my enemies to hurt me in my tank
And
B. They certainly need to use skill to catch me unaware with a Jihad LAV, because I have a pretty healthy paranoia towards any orange marked LAV coming into my vicinity.
If anyone needs to "get good" here, it's you, you butthurt loser... |
shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
1886
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Posted - 2014.04.21 17:25:00 -
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You are just lucky that i don't use jihad LAV, because you would explode 100% of the time.
I have had a tanker/pilot char since chromo, i don't use it anymore because i don't like 1.7 tanks, if you are defending this broken mechanic you are just bad or lucky to not find many kamikaze jeeps.
The unnamed new build it's so secret that nobody know what will be in it, even after patch notes..
\o/ summon me
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Zirzo Valcyn
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
482
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Posted - 2014.04.21 17:42:00 -
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Leonid Tybalt wrote:Swarms need some kind of buff against dropships.
Despite the fact that I was using proto swarms with a minmatar commando at lvl 4 AND dual damage mods, I could barely get past the shields of a friggin Incubus through sustained fire.
Also, something needs to be done about the range on ADS weaponry. The pilot should have to choose between evasive manouevering OR shooting at targets.
People (especially ADS-pilots) used to complain about redline railtanks, because they could engage you when you couldn't engage back. If that's the case then tell me how it's "fair" that an ADS can rain down fire on a tank below, but the tank can't elevate his turret enough to shoot back? It's the exact ******* thing as cowering in the redline and shooting at targets that can't shoot you back.
now this is a retrded statement. what are we supposed to do fly directly in front of tank so he can shoot at us so we don't labeled a coward by a noob like yourself
u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll.
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Zirzo Valcyn
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
482
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Posted - 2014.04.21 17:54:00 -
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THEPIMP NAMED SLICKBACK wrote:Leonid Tybalt wrote:THEPIMP NAMED SLICKBACK wrote:+1 python pilot always get 2 shot down from 2 shots and half my deaths are from assholes who dropship ram because they wanted to upgrade from their jhad lavs its just people who are two lazy and can't use teamwork to bring down a dropship it's so easy just get 2 forge gunners to fire at you at the same time with a breach same for tanks teamwork is the key against av everyone's just looking for the quick fix that's what makes the game hard to play everyone doesn't want to try when it gets hard any more this game reminds me of BF3 and BF4 just a bunch of trolls bored of the game wanting to be assholes to other players. Also i have nothing against jhads with re's its a good tatic against proto tank spam. Once again: why should your enemies be forced to resort to teamwork to bring YOU (I.e ONE PERSON) down? Why should you be perfectly capable of racking up solo kill after solo kill, while everybody else has to team up to even have a chance at taking you down? railguns need is the removal of automatic fire
then i demand a respec out of GAL ADS 5. your talking about negating many people's 2+ mil SP
u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll.
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Leonid Tybalt
Inner.Hell
477
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Posted - 2014.04.21 17:56:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:You are just lucky that i don't use jihad LAV, because you would explode 100% of the time.
I have had a tanker/pilot char since chromo, i don't use it anymore because i don't like 1.7 tanks, if you are defending this broken mechanic you are just bad or lucky to not find many kamikaze jeeps.
There's nothing "broken" about it. You just plain suck at tanking, and if you've played since chromosome then my Dust career is shorter than yours, yet somehow im a better player than you. |
Broonfondle Majikthies
Dogs of War Gaming
Zero-Day
1172
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Posted - 2014.04.21 18:22:00 -
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Casual Incubus Pilot*
What I love about the ADS is that there is no other comparison. There is no Mlt ship that can match what it does like the Soma / Maddie compares to each other. A Gorgon can never fulfil what an incubus can so I can kinda understand the price tag.
In terms of power its not indestructible. I like to believe its because we're used to some incredibly crappy builds so we can make the most out of it. We know what it can take and fight accordingly. Its also one of the few vehicles that really change up when heavily invested with SP.
In short - I think the ADS is in the best place it has ever been. Pilot skill is a massive factor and personally I would love for it to stay that way.
What it needs is more module choice, more verity, bugs to be addressed and the FG to be fixed. Swarms are highly effective for their intended role - as a denying weapon, not destroying. Even if you are able to take the punishment the knock effect makes it incredibly hard to continue fighting so even without great damage they work. Teamwork is the key to actually taking down a ADS.
-* Its not my style really but its what I'm used to. I guess at heart I'd prefer something weaker, still have a fair armour base and far more manoeuvrable. [read: bring back overdrives / bring me my Min ADS! or better yet light aircraft  ]
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THEPIMP NAMED SLICKBACK
RisingSuns
Dark Taboo
4
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Posted - 2014.04.21 18:35:00 -
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Zirzo Valcyn wrote:THEPIMP NAMED SLICKBACK wrote:Leonid Tybalt wrote:THEPIMP NAMED SLICKBACK wrote:+1 python pilot always get 2 shot down from 2 shots and half my deaths are from assholes who dropship ram because they wanted to upgrade from their jhad lavs its just people who are two lazy and can't use teamwork to bring down a dropship it's so easy just get 2 forge gunners to fire at you at the same time with a breach same for tanks teamwork is the key against av everyone's just looking for the quick fix that's what makes the game hard to play everyone doesn't want to try when it gets hard any more this game reminds me of BF3 and BF4 just a bunch of trolls bored of the game wanting to be assholes to other players. Also i have nothing against jhads with re's its a good tatic against proto tank spam. Once again: why should your enemies be forced to resort to teamwork to bring YOU (I.e ONE PERSON) down? Why should you be perfectly capable of racking up solo kill after solo kill, while everybody else has to team up to even have a chance at taking you down? railguns need is the removal of automatic fire then i demand a respec out of GAL ADS 5. your talking about negating many people's 2+ mil SP
i meant large turrent railguns |
shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
1886
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Posted - 2014.04.21 18:44:00 -
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Leonid Tybalt wrote:shaman oga wrote:You are just lucky that i don't use jihad LAV, because you would explode 100% of the time.
I have had a tanker/pilot char since chromo, i don't use it anymore because i don't like 1.7 tanks, if you are defending this broken mechanic you are just bad or lucky to not find many kamikaze jeeps. There's nothing "broken" about it. You just plain suck at tanking, and if you've played since chromosome then my Dust career is shorter than yours, yet somehow im a better player than you.
If you challenge me, i have no problem.
Me with a bomb jeep
Vs.
You with your tank of choice
I can assure you that you will explode 100% of time.
But it's not because i'm good or because you are bad, it's because it's a broken mechanic.
If you are so stubborn to not understand this, you deserve it, but remember that not all kamikaze jeep will drive in front of you, a "smart" kamikaze will stab you or ram you from a side.
The unnamed new build it's so secret that nobody know what will be in it, even after patch notes..
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
13003
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Posted - 2014.04.21 18:48:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:Leonid Tybalt wrote:shaman oga wrote:You are just lucky that i don't use jihad LAV, because you would explode 100% of the time.
I have had a tanker/pilot char since chromo, i don't use it anymore because i don't like 1.7 tanks, if you are defending this broken mechanic you are just bad or lucky to not find many kamikaze jeeps. There's nothing "broken" about it. You just plain suck at tanking, and if you've played since chromosome then my Dust career is shorter than yours, yet somehow im a better player than you. If you challenge me, i have no problem. Me with a bomb jeep Vs. You with your tank of choice I can assure you that you will explode 100% of time. But it's not because i'm good or because you are bad, it's because it's a broken mechanic. If you are so stubborn to not understand this, you deserve it, but remember that not all kamikaze jeep will drive in front of you, a "smart" kamikaze will stab you or ram you from a side.
The only reason Jihad works with any reliability is because the turret rotation skill STILL isn't applying. Having that extra 50% rotation would do wonders for a tankers situational awareness, and only bad / unlucky tankers would die to this tactic.
But, that involves CCP fixing their game. So, it's here to stay
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Kaminoikari
DROID EXILES
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.04.21 18:54:00 -
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Leonid Tybalt wrote:
[...] I rarely fall for the same Jihad LAV trick twice in one match.
When you see a LAV coming towards you and you're in a tank, then chances are he's going to jihad you. Smart move would be to shoot the LAV [...]
Sir, I will have you know I Jihadd Jeep every time I see a tank because my QQ for them killing my ADS/DS from way back in the day. I'll have you know (I only recently started doing it) I would get you multiple times in a match and the odds of you spotting me are very slim unless you have someone watching every angle of the map at all times. I do commend you and other tankurz who kill me prior to detonation, but still. Just my .002 cents. Jihadding is a skill in its own right. It requires scout-like flanking maneuvers to catch a blaster/missile tank off guard, but one can just out-maneuver a railgun tank as they approach.
I'll assume you are a good tanker as well, because that makes my job more fun.
Dropships need a buff. This way they can stop derping everywhere . ;_;
>Tfw no Amarr dropship and laser turrets
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shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
1886
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Posted - 2014.04.21 18:55:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:The only reason Jihad works with any reliability is because the turret rotation skill STILL isn't applying. Having that extra 50% rotation would do wonders for a tankers situational awareness, and only bad / unlucky tankers would die to this tactic. But, that involves CCP fixing their game. So, it's here to stay
I don't think that even a blaster turret would rotate that fast to shoot a LAV coming from behind him.
Collision damage need to go, it would solve many problems, from RDV kills, to people running on friendly dropship with tanks/LAV, bomb jeeps will still be there but you will need to jump out and detonate RE to kill a vehicle, it would be much more reasonable.
The unnamed new build it's so secret that nobody know what will be in it, even after patch notes..
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Nomed Deeps
319
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Posted - 2014.04.21 19:00:00 -
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Quote:1. Forge guns are the vein of my exsistance
I think you mean "bane".
Anyway, I think ADS is fine if Swarms' range weren't severely nerfed and if all forge shots counted.
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Scheneighnay McBob
Nova Corps Marines
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
4883
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Posted - 2014.04.21 19:02:00 -
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Dropships have always been touchy; either AV absolutely destroys them everywhere, or they're unkillable.
While this is the best they've been, it still isn't ideal.
Finally, despite flying them myself sometimes, I believe assault dropships should never have been added in the first place, and therefore need to be removed.
It's a transport, not an attack craft.
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EternalRMG
KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND
Lokun Listamenn
845
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Posted - 2014.04.21 19:17:00 -
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ARE YOU GUYS FREACKING SERIOUS????
You want to buff ADS???? why in the hell would you want that
they are perfectly balanced, they are the most balanced thing in the game, they take skill to use and in the right hands it is a game changer so please
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Leonid Tybalt
Inner.Hell
477
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Posted - 2014.04.22 08:06:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:Leonid Tybalt wrote:shaman oga wrote:You are just lucky that i don't use jihad LAV, because you would explode 100% of the time.
I have had a tanker/pilot char since chromo, i don't use it anymore because i don't like 1.7 tanks, if you are defending this broken mechanic you are just bad or lucky to not find many kamikaze jeeps. There's nothing "broken" about it. You just plain suck at tanking, and if you've played since chromosome then my Dust career is shorter than yours, yet somehow im a better player than you. If you challenge me, i have no problem. Me with a bomb jeep Vs. You with your tank of choice I can assure you that you will explode 100% of time. But it's not because i'm good or because you are bad, it's because it's a broken mechanic. If you are so stubborn to not understand this, you deserve it, but remember that not all kamikaze jeep will drive in front of you, a "smart" kamikaze will stab you or ram you from a side. I'm for eliminating the collision damage at all, you want to make a kamikaze jeep? No problem, but you must park your jeep next to me and detonate the REs.
Yes you are bad, because you yourself admitted to getting blown up "again and again and again". I don't suffer the same fate that you do. It's because I watch my six when i'm in a tank, and I use the overview map to keep tabs on all vehicle movement and also I keep moving (moving tanks are harder to jihad than stationary ones.
Bring out your jihad Lavs if you see me in pubs. I doubt you'll get the opportunity to destroy me more than once.
Because I'm a good tanker, and you're not. And there's still nothing "broken" about the mechanic. A broken mechanic is one that's impossible to counter, this one isn't since you have several ways to counter it. |
Leonid Tybalt
Inner.Hell
477
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Posted - 2014.04.22 08:12:00 -
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Kaminoikari wrote:Leonid Tybalt wrote:
[...] I rarely fall for the same Jihad LAV trick twice in one match.
When you see a LAV coming towards you and you're in a tank, then chances are he's going to jihad you. Smart move would be to shoot the LAV [...]
Sir, I will have you know I Jihadd Jeep every time I see a tank because my QQ for them killing my ADS/DS from way back in the day. I'll have you know (I only recently started doing it) I would get you multiple times in a match and the odds of you spotting me are very slim unless you have someone watching every angle of the map at all times. I do commend you and other tankurz who kill me prior to detonation, but still. Just my .002 cents. Jihadding is a skill in its own right. It requires scout-like flanking maneuvers to catch a blaster/missile tank off guard, but one can just out-maneuver a railgun tank as they approach. I'll assume you are a good tanker as well, because that makes my job more fun.
I know jihad LAVs try to flank. Hence my usage of the overview map, because it let's me see what's to my sides and rear without having to turn the turret. |
shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
1887
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Posted - 2014.04.22 09:37:00 -
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I don't know how you can use overview map while you are driving.
You must stop, wait 2 seconds for the map, use another couple of seconds to spot vehicles and other 2 seconds to go back to the game.
Meanwhile a LAV can be everywhere, and i would use map overview to spot you too, don't believe to be a tanking genius, people who never doubt are usually the first to explode.
Btw, i can't be a bad tanker for the simple reason that i don't use tanks anymore, i have level 1 on big blaster turret just to fit a decent madrugar that i almost never use, not because i'm afraid of jihad jeeps but because i don't like 1.7 vehicles.
I play with ADS because i like to fly but my favorite vehicles were Logi vehicles and i was using them with armor/shield transporters to aid other vehicles.
I have survived pre 1.7 patch with invisible swarms and ultra strong AV, jihad jeep are the last of my problem, but if it's not a blueberry who use it, me, you and every other tanker, no matter what they say, have very few chances to survive a bomb jeep.
The unnamed new build it's so secret that nobody know what will be in it, even after patch notes..
\o/ summon me
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Leonid Tybalt
Inner.Hell
477
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Posted - 2014.04.22 11:19:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:I don't know how you can use overview map while you are driving.
You must stop, wait 2 seconds for the map, use another couple of seconds to spot vehicles and other 2 seconds to go back to the game.
Meanwhile a LAV can be everywhere, and i would use map overview to spot you too, don't believe to be a tanking genius, people who never doubt are usually the first to explode.
Btw, i can't be a bad tanker for the simple reason that i don't use tanks anymore, i have level 1 on big blaster turret just to fit a decent madrugar that i almost never use, not because i'm afraid of jihad jeeps but because i don't like 1.7 vehicles.
I play with ADS because i like to fly but my favorite vehicles were Logi vehicles and i was using them with armor/shield transporters to aid other vehicles.
I have survived pre 1.7 patch with invisible swarms and ultra strong AV, jihad jeep are the last of my problem, but if it's not a blueberry who use it, me, you and every other tanker, no matter what they say, have very few chances to survive a bomb jeep.
You don't drive while looking at the map. You know the maps well enough to know where it's safe to stop and look and where it isn't. Takes me roughly six to eight seconds to find targets with the map, and I'll definitely see a LAV going full speed towards me for no apparent reason.
I don't need your advice based on your archaic knowledge of previous patches.
Just the fact that you still talk about 1.7 tanks when the current patch is 1.8 (and tanks got nerfed in vital ways) just goes to showhow out of synch you are. |
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