not the current issue post #19 is. but i will repley,
1. Swarms are effective vs. armor. the problem is your are trying to solo kill. get one forge/tanker to help and the drop ship is dead.
2, python has to choose incubus is a bit stronger practically a flying soma.
3. Its a programmed in tactic above is the only safe spot or far away for a dropship. tanks have injectors for a reason. A good tanker knows when and how to fight an ADS. if you have two tanks working together an ads is dead or can't get the kill. ads has to fly into battle above tanker to get a kill, this leaves him vulnerable and every thing on the map can shot at him and see him. red line tanker nothing could get. I think your view was bias. When was the last time you saw a tank explode from hitting a map object?

I will give you i think a tanks top turret 3rd gun (not main) should be able to aim up more. Not 90 degrees up like 75 degrees mabey.

AV includes FG and Swamers. It also includes Rail Gun Turrets, Tanks with Rails or Missiles (or Blaster as close range) and the installations for Rail and Missiles. Occasionally some nearby Red with AV grenades as well.

Teaming up to tank down a tank is pretty much necessary. I have never been taken down by one AV Merc regardless of level if I have a healthy tank. Now, I can get stupid and stick around when I should leave which will open the window for the AV to pop my tank. But without previous damage, AV will not get my tank.

So what is that any different from flying my ADS? It isn't. Most properly fitted vehicles, current 1.8 +hatchet jobs (aka hot fixes), require they do have some damage then the AV that has opportunity fire can finish them off. On the ground or in the air.

So, this is contract killing. Who in the Kitten told you it was supposed to be fair?

It sure wasn't me.


Welcome to Dust.

ADS are fine imo, while terrestrial ramming in a lot of case doesn't lead to death, aerail ramming is one of the more disgusting tecniques and broken mechanic in this game.
I'm disgusted from all the players who use this tecnique to destroy another dropship, no matter if it is ADS or normal DS, if you ram DS you are a piece of sh!t.

Skill forgeguns, call a tank, there are several ways to kill a DS, zero respect for aerial rammers and jihad bombers, they are all sh!tty players, calling them noobs would be a offense to the poor noobs.

oh i'm sorry i guess i'm supposed to have a 20 min dropship battle with another ADS. That's what the ADS is for and 0 chance to shoot back swarms and forge guns are an option your just to lazy to swap fits

+1 python pilot always get 2 shot down from 2 shots and half my deaths are from assholes who dropship ram because they wanted to upgrade from their jhad lavs its just people who are two lazy and can't use teamwork to bring down a dropship it's so easy just get 2 forge gunners to fire at you at the same time with a breach same for tanks teamwork is the key against av everyone's just looking for the quick fix that's what makes the game hard to play everyone doesn't want to try when it gets hard any more this game reminds me of BF3 and BF4 just a bunch of trolls bored of the game wanting to be assholes to other players. Also i have nothing against jhads with re's its a good tatic against proto tank spam.

A jihad jeep can destroy your tank, again & again & again & again & again & again.....
No matter if you are good or not, but probably you are defending it because you are not good enough to kill some tankers and you have to use jihad jeeps.
Get good.

You are just lucky that i don't use jihad LAV, because you would explode 100% of the time.
I have had a tanker/pilot char since chromo, i don't use it anymore because i don't like 1.7 tanks, if you are defending this broken mechanic you are just bad or lucky to not find many kamikaze jeeps.

If you challenge me, i have no problem.

Me with a bomb jeep
Vs.
You with your tank of choice

I can assure you that you will explode 100% of time.

But it's not because i'm good or because you are bad, it's because it's a broken mechanic.
If you are so stubborn to not understand this, you deserve it, but remember that not all kamikaze jeep will drive in front of you, a "smart" kamikaze will stab you or ram you from a side.

I'm for eliminating the collision damage at all, you want to make a kamikaze jeep? No problem, but you must park your jeep next to me and detonate the REs.

Sir, I will have you know I Jihadd Jeep every time I see a tank because my QQ for them killing my ADS/DS from way back in the day. I'll have you know (I only recently started doing it) I would get you multiple times in a match and the odds of you spotting me are very slim unless you have someone watching every angle of the map at all times. I do commend you and other tankurz who kill me prior to detonation, but still. Just my .002 cents. Jihadding is a skill in its own right. It requires scout-like flanking maneuvers to catch a blaster/missile tank off guard, but one can just out-maneuver a railgun tank as they approach.

I'll assume you are a good tanker as well, because that makes my job more fun.

I don't know how you can use overview map while you are driving.
You must stop, wait 2 seconds for the map, use another couple of seconds to spot vehicles and other 2 seconds to go back to the game.
Meanwhile a LAV can be everywhere, and i would use map overview to spot you too, don't believe to be a tanking genius, people who never doubt are usually the first to explode.

Btw, i can't be a bad tanker for the simple reason that i don't use tanks anymore, i have level 1 on big blaster turret just to fit a decent madrugar that i almost never use, not because i'm afraid of jihad jeeps but because i don't like 1.7 vehicles.
I play with ADS because i like to fly but my favorite vehicles were Logi vehicles and i was using them with armor/shield transporters to aid other vehicles.

I have survived pre 1.7 patch with invisible swarms and ultra strong AV, jihad jeep are the last of my problem, but if it's not a blueberry who use it, me, you and every other tanker, no matter what they say, have very few chances to survive a bomb jeep.