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CCP Saberwing
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.29 02:39:00 -
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Hello everyone,
For the last few weeks the community has been debating the topic of real life harassment, and its connection to the EVE Universe. The EVE Universe Community Team has been working on this issue for some time now, and has had extensive discussions about it with your elected representatives, the Council of Stellar Management.
EVE is a virtual world whose inhabitants have more freedom to play the villain and experiment with various backhanded tactics than in any other MMO. The freedom to scam and commit piracy, espionage, and extortion are all fundamental to the EVE Online experience, and CCP will never change that. However, it is important to remember that the EVE universe is a virtual world, and behavior of this nature should remain firmly within that virtual world.
While the content of online interactions between players cannot realistically be gated within our game worlds, CCP strongly disapproves of clear and extraordinary levels of real life harassment against our players in the outside world.
CCP, in collaboration with the CSM, have agreed and would like to state in the strongest possible terms and in accordance with our existing Terms of Service and End User License Agreement, that real life harassment is morally reprehensible, and verifiable examples of such behavior will be met with disciplinary action against game accounts in accordance with our Terms of Service.
Harassment poses a potential problem in any virtual world, and CCP has dealt with cases of this nature for more than a decade. We will continue to monitor and evaluate claims of harassment based on our policies and acceptable standards of behavior.
As always, CCP will not discuss specific cases of policy enforcement. However, if you have any questions regarding this statement, please feel free to pose them in this thread, and we will respond to the best of our ability.
- The EVE Universe Community Team
CCP Saberwing // DUST 514 Community Manager // @kanafchian
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Kain Spero
Escrow Removal and Acquisition
Dirt Nap Squad.
3122
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Posted - 2014.03.29 02:49:00 -
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It can not be emphasized enough that as a community we should be aware of the line between the game and real life and always respect that line when it comes to topics such as harassment and real-life threats.
Owner of Spero Escrow Services
Follow @KainSpero for Dust and CPM news
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Minor Treat
The Enclave Syndicate
Dark Taboo
194
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Posted - 2014.03.29 03:23:00 -
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Harassment is not cool, thats all folks. |
N1ck Comeau
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Dirt Nap Squad.
2388
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Posted - 2014.03.29 03:37:00 -
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I totally agree. In game is one thing, you don't screw with someone's personal life though
If you run cloak and shotgun, you're a scrub
Don't brick tank that scout, come on, get good.
Proud member of RND
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Racro 01 Arifistan
501st Knights of Leanbox
INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
260
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Posted - 2014.03.29 04:21:00 -
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gg.
its good to havge fun. but every ones defeniton of fun is diffrent for some it is anoyying other players to the point of anoyyance or rage. to the victim that is not fun and to them is harrasment,
people must be aware of this fine line between fun and harasment.
Elite Gallenten Soldier
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Solitar Stormwatch
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
22
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Posted - 2014.03.29 04:22:00 -
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Does that mean that I cannot call the Gallente dirty, filthy frogs that are the skidmark on the underpants of New Eden :( In all reality don't harass players out of the game.
Proud Caldari Loyalist, I stare at those 4 eyes with a smirk as I get taken down. For The State and her allies o7
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege
Top Men.
1801
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Posted - 2014.03.29 04:57:00 -
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It is greatly appreciated CCP has made a statement on this issue.
I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
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Luna Angelo
We Who Walk Alone
946
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Posted - 2014.03.29 05:06:00 -
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My corp has a policy of RESPECT. Trash-talking is fine, it's part of any game, but we don't take it too far. We play it to HAVE FUN. If we get bored or frustrated, we quit, and come back later.
I fight for Caldari, and will call my corpmates that fight for Gallente "Frogs", but in the end, we remember that we are just playing a game. I'm not insulting them, or their parents, or whatever, I'm insulting the in-game faction they fight for.
It's about time CCP has done something about this, though. However, I have one question: Trash-talking is allowed, as long as it's only insulting their in-game stuff, right? Because, if not, I'll have to revise my corps rules.
I don't need luck, I have a cloak.
Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep.
CEO of We Who Walk Alone
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CELESTA AUNGM
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
136
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Posted - 2014.03.29 05:40:00 -
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 Salutations! I am daring to add my charcter's name to the front end of this thread, because I want to be counted as one of the members in the New Eden playground who openly applauds what CCP has announced here.
In the Dust forums alone, it's clear to see that there are always some numbers in the community (any community I guess) who disturb the party mood by deliberately trying to provoke real-world social harassment, or who just naturally carry socially-hurtful ideas inside them wherever they go, or who just have the compulsion to see a rule and want to break it. Many, MANY other gaming creators before Dust have set up clear "Rules" about harassing behavior too, and posted perfunctorily stern "warnings" against rule-breakers.
I'm among the players who argue that, against all but the most extreme harassers, those rules and warnings on those sites were pretty much impotent, and a continuing percentage of the sensitive-minded players would feel socially victimized and leave the game's community.
EVE Online/Dust 514 is SO bent on "SOCIAL" being the tool to accomplishing things between capsuleers (and the strategic planner for the team-driven combat between mercs) that this game stands to suffer arguably more damage than those other games, if CCP allows its social forum interaction to be interferred with by any amount of real-world (noob, jihad, homosexual, any etc) harassment. I was hoping that the creators might decide to make a new Mission Statement or declaration, to let players know that Dust's game developers plan to protect their investment.
So I am groovy-glad to see CCP make this statement, and potentially start a quiet DED-style, direct-enforcement war on this subject. Dust 514 has been the most bold-positioning, controversially experimental, forward-aiming, debate-causing, gutsy, and evolution-minded "Shooter-game" I've ever encountered in my social gaming life. I have my fingers crossed that CCP can be the one who starts the evolution in online game forums, where the forum is STRONGLY PROTECTED by social guidelines that no longer permit the 3 options of "follow the rules", "skirt the rules", "screw the rules and log back on with a new character ID",... and instead will make players feel they're stuck with TWO real options: Be truly sociable, or Be wormholed out of the forum entirely.
The issue of forum harassment is THAT important. |
Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
1394
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Posted - 2014.03.29 05:57:00 -
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For those wondering, this blog, and the following debates that broke out all over the EVE forums, is what spurred CCP to make this announcement.
Suffice to say, I am absolutely disgusted by it, and I'm glad CCP is making a stance on it.
Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published Mar. 22nd
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
3911
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Posted - 2014.03.29 06:07:00 -
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I support this message.
I got my cloak and daggers, I'm a very happy Ghost
I hack at Mach V
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KalOfTheRathi
Nec Tributis
1066
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Posted - 2014.03.29 06:31:00 -
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So the DDoS attacks will cease?
Or will they increase?
And so it goes.
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Silas Swakhammer
GamersForChrist
384
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Posted - 2014.03.29 07:29:00 -
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Has CCP made any previous announcement regarding real life and/or extraordinary harassment?
Pineapples on pizza.
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DAMIOS82
WarRavens Auxiliaries
League of Infamy
90
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Posted - 2014.03.29 08:08:00 -
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Well it's one thing to play the pirate and it's another to be one. CCP has always encouraged criminal behaviour within their game or atleast not in the beginning to such an extend. Yes there has always been scams and such, but the minor punishments where there. However at one point i believe ccp just gave up the struggle and simply allowed it under the mum of piracy or the words welcome to EVE. For the last few years players have complained about the scams beeing out of controll and yet still ccp does nothing about it or atleast not much. Sure you say what you say, that you don't aprove of it effecting reall life, etc. Sure it might be true, but lets face reality your just covering your own ass, no offence.
If you encourage criminal behaviour within the game, it is logicall that reality will follow. It is an endless debate, but aslong as nothing really changes, don't expect people to change either. For there are no rules in EVE that can stop me from talking a guy into suicide or scamming him untill he become so frustrated that he kills his wife and children. hell i'm just bored and evil so why not. Sounds harsh doesn't it, but the reality is that yes you might monitor the chat's and forum's, but you cannot controll what happens beyond those means. Yes you might swing the banhammer, but those can be circumvented by creating new characters, etc. and there are no other means in eve that stop me from doing those things other then someone else complaining about it. But hey it's not possible for them to complain if there dead or in jail.
I agree it should not effect reall life, but it always does. If i where a new player in EVE and i see someone announce a great deal on the chat, i would think ow a trading game, maybe i can get a great deal. The most naturall way of thinking is that all humans want to improve there way of living thrue all means necessary. So it's logicall that that behaviour carries on into the game aswell. However if it then turns out to be a scam, who knows what happens in my reall life, who knows how many hours of crap i had to take just to buy that one plex, not to mention the monthly fee's. So that 1 drop in the bucket could be all that is needed to make me go haywire. The truth is simple, noboddy likes to be scammed or be victimized by it and where specially not paying ccp to experience such an experience. One could argue it's there own fault, but let's face fact's, not everybody can be as smart as you or see what's is infront of them.
In how far ccp can ennact controll over these type of things is yet to be seen. However allowing scamming to be constantly announced on chat's is just the beginning to something more worse in my oppinion.
Let's just hope CCP learns from EVE on how it's not suppose to be done and make's sure Dust 514 or World of Darkness does not end the same way. |
GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Dirt Nap Squad.
1169
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Posted - 2014.03.29 08:23:00 -
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Enkidu Camuel
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Dirt Nap Squad.
167
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Posted - 2014.03.29 08:43:00 -
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Makes me wonder... how many IRL death threats The Mittani has recieved because of EVE.
Major DUST fact.
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steadyhand amarr
TeamPlayers
Negative-Feedback
2784
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Posted - 2014.03.29 12:22:00 -
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im glad this has been address and a line drawn :), i for one know i should probably tone down my matagame on kain :P as in RL he is nice guy :P just man in eve dude your like a monster or somthing :P
its just a game fokes and im glad CCP has taken a few steps to reinforce that
"i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk"
winner of EU squad cup
GOGO power rangers
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ADAM-OF-EVE
Dead Man's Game
1149
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Posted - 2014.03.29 12:59:00 -
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its one thing i found really nice about eve. players can be the most aggressive in every way towards your character in game but when you meet them in RL at events like fanfest you will never meet a bunch of better men and woman.
players just have to understand the difference and know when in game abuse turns to RL abuse
"The Mittani" fell foul to ccp because he took ingame abuse out into RL
at the end of the day its just a game
I will logi the s* out of you
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
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Aeon Amadi
Edimmu Warfighters
Gallente Federation
5383
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Posted - 2014.03.29 13:29:00 -
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Still think we need a CPSA feature that forces people to pay ISK in order to mail you
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KaTaLy5t-87
Shadow Company HQ
Lokun Listamenn
141
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Posted - 2014.03.29 13:56:00 -
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I think this is a sad reflection about the state of society today that this statement needed to be made. At the end of the day we are playing a GAME and that is all we are here to do. People should be allowed to do whatever they please in the game to a certain extent as long as it does not involve anything on a personal level and does not spill over into people's lives outside the game.
I think CCP need to do more than they currently do in terms of curbing any real-life harassment that is connected to either Dust or Eve. The act of harassing a person in real-life is not only morally reprehensible, it is illegal. I think CCP should be consulting with the authorities with regard to such things. If someone is harassing someone else in real-life is it punishment enough to just suspend or delete their game account? I don't believe it is!
Where I come from, harassment is a serious crime and if found guilty of any form of harassment then you would face several years in prison, a very costly legal bill and an extremely costly compensation payment to the victim.
I think if there is proof of real-life harassment of any kind then it is the duty of CCP to go to the relevant authorities in whatever country to put a stop to it once and for all.
Most of society today has sunk to level of being "keyboard warriors" and IMO there are way too many of those kind of people out there today. They say and do things on the internet as if it will have no effect on anyone's wellbeing or peace of mind. These keyboard warriors are the same people who would not open their mouths to someone in person for fear of the repercussions. Bullying or harassing someone via the Internet is the same as the school bully who plays up in front of his/her friends but when they are alone they are a very different person indeed just like the keyboard warrior who is all talk from behind his/her keyboard but wouldn't dare to say the same things to someone's face.
I have no time for such people and I think their practice of harassing people from behind a monitor needs to be stamped out. It starts with each and every one of us. These people need to be shown that their ways will not be tolerated on any level. They need to be shown that their actions have real consequences and I think this is where CCP need to step it up.
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Criteria Shipment
Dogs of War Gaming
Zero-Day
750
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Posted - 2014.03.29 13:57:00 -
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It's been 2 years and you finally come up with this?
GG
Goodbye, world!
(püú-ÿ+í-ÿ-é)
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Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
2065
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Posted - 2014.03.29 15:28:00 -
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Haven't seen much harassment in this game (serious and based on real life), but I loved this post.
Harassment is wrong. |
Chesyre Armundsen
Thanes Of Dust
478
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Posted - 2014.03.29 17:32:00 -
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Props to CCP for the addressing the topic.
I'll give my positive support to my fellow Mercs any day and I will not tolerate abuse of my mates. :)
Mihi gravato Deus - "Let God lay the burden on me!"
The Space Hippie
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highimgay 123456
Krullefor Organization
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.03.29 19:01:00 -
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Minor Treat wrote:Harassment is not cool, thats all folks.
How much can you really be harrassed by an eve nerd? Pffft get real, such sissys today, seriously? |
Luna Angelo
We Who Walk Alone
960
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Posted - 2014.03.29 19:45:00 -
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highimgay 123456 wrote:Minor Treat wrote:Harassment is not cool, thats all folks. How much can you really be harrassed by an eve nerd? Pffft get real, such sissys today, seriously?
people have been driven to suicide over internet harassment and bullying, you bosh'tet.
I don't need luck, I have a cloak.
Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep.
CEO of We Who Walk Alone
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Aeon Amadi
Edimmu Warfighters
Gallente Federation
5384
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Posted - 2014.03.29 20:35:00 -
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highimgay 123456 wrote:Minor Treat wrote:Harassment is not cool, thats all folks. How much can you really be harrassed by an eve nerd? Pffft get real, such sissys today, seriously?
A lot, actually.
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Sole Fenychs
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
264
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Posted - 2014.03.29 20:37:00 -
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Denak Kalamari wrote:For those wondering, this blog, and the debates that broke out all over the EVE forums regarding the subject, is what spurred CCP to make this announcement. Suffice to say, I am absolutely disgusted by it, and I'm glad CCP is making a stance on it.
Not to say that this kind of thing is justified or not cruel...
But how the hell do you get into that situation, in the first place?
If you have to go to work but consider your ingame assets more important, you might want to reconsider your priorities in life.
And even then, why would you give a random dude your assets. Especially once those people ask for more and more? |
Necandi Brasil
DUST BRASIL S.A
Proficiency V.
845
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Posted - 2014.03.29 21:54:00 -
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Denak Kalamari wrote:For those wondering, this blog, and the debates that broke out all over the EVE forums regarding the subject, is what spurred CCP to make this announcement. Suffice to say, I am absolutely disgusted by it, and I'm glad CCP is making a stance on it.
Torture man... I'm really sorry for that guy.
Wow ... hope CCP bans this guy. Probably a douche IRL aswell...
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Jaysyn Larrisen
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
848
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Posted - 2014.03.29 22:05:00 -
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As much as I, and many of us, would like a lot more "EVE" in Dust I am occasionally glad there is a governor on it in the current state of the game.
Hopefully we can police ourselves enough to deter most of the asshats that might be in our ranks that would do something as described in Jesters blog.
"Endless money forms the sinews of War." - Cicero
Skype: jaysyn.larrisen
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rayakalj9
Opus Arcana
Covert Intervention
1
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Posted - 2014.03.29 22:18:00 -
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The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
Negative-Feedback
2621
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Posted - 2014.03.29 22:38:00 -
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Is this stuff about Erotica1 beeing banned from Eve?
I shall show you a world, a world which you cant imagine, a world full off butthurt n00bs at the other end of my gun
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GVGMODE
WorstPlayersEver
163
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Posted - 2014.03.29 23:30:00 -
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CCP should take a step forward and protect the users in Dust 514.
If CCP is really concerned about the identity of their player they would actually demonstrate it with in-game changes, such as:
1) Making the PSN ID private (not shown to other players in any form it must include the character sheet/character information).
2) No character name should match the real life name of a player.
3) No character name should match the PSN ID or email account.
For security and privacy concerns.
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Luna Angelo
We Who Walk Alone
974
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Posted - 2014.03.30 05:09:00 -
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GVGMODE wrote:CCP should take a step forward and protect the users in Dust 514.
If CCP is really concerned about the identity of their player they would actually demonstrate it with in-game changes, such as:
1) Making the PSN ID private (not shown to other players in any form it must include the character sheet/character information).
2) No character name should match the real life name of a player.
3) No character name should match the PSN ID or email account.
For security and privacy concerns.
The problem with the first one is the BPO Code scams. We need the names, as THAT is illegal, and bannable.
I don't need luck, I have a cloak.
Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep.
CEO of We Who Walk Alone
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The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
Negative-Feedback
2631
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Posted - 2014.03.30 14:31:00 -
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Not showing PSN names? What would that be good for? On every single other game on PS3 your PSN name is displayed to other players. And knowing the PSN name from some 1 is not like if you know their email or password for their account.
I shall show you a world, a world which you cant imagine, a world full off butthurt n00bs at the other end of my gun
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Neoproto D
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2014.03.30 14:41:00 -
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Huge props to CCP for taking a stance against this. |
BAD FURRY
SVER True Blood
General Tso's Alliance
699
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Posted - 2014.03.30 16:49:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:Hello everyone,
For the last few weeks the community has been debating the topic of real life harassment, and its connection to the EVE Universe. The EVE Universe Community Team has been working on this issue for some time now, and has had extensive discussions about it with your elected representatives, the Council of Stellar Management.
EVE is a virtual world whose inhabitants have more freedom to play the villain and experiment with various backhanded tactics than in any other MMO. The freedom to scam and commit piracy, espionage, and extortion are all fundamental to the EVE Online experience, and CCP will never change that. However, it is important to remember that the EVE universe is a virtual world, and behavior of this nature should remain firmly within that virtual world.
While the content of online interactions between players cannot realistically be gated within our game worlds, CCP strongly disapproves of clear and extraordinary levels of real life harassment against our players in the outside world.
CCP, in collaboration with the CSM, have agreed and would like to state in the strongest possible terms and in accordance with our existing Terms of Service and End User License Agreement, that real life harassment is morally reprehensible, and verifiable examples of such behavior will be met with disciplinary action against game accounts in accordance with our Terms of Service.
Harassment poses a potential problem in any virtual world, and CCP has dealt with cases of this nature for more than a decade. We will continue to monitor and evaluate claims of harassment based on our policies and acceptable standards of behavior.
As always, CCP will not discuss specific cases of policy enforcement. However, if you have any questions regarding this statement, please feel free to pose them in this thread, and we will respond to the best of our ability.
- The EVE Universe Community Team
so then sending someone your toon name and pass in eve to dust and then waiting a week or to then report the toon hacked to get the player IP banned from dust and eve online is fair game ?
just saying this has been used more then ones in eve/dust corps and in eve and dust CCP seems to always IP ban the wrong guy .
just asking then do,s this fall with in RL Harassment in the case player A go,s to player B and gives the account info over to player B just to report player B to you guys he,s a hacker and get his IP banned so player A can get his account back and get rid of player B from the game ! and go on to do the same to other players that player A dont like .
Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
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Bro-metheus
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
83
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Posted - 2014.03.30 18:31:00 -
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God people are such ******* nerds. Harassment is a part of life. get ******* used to it. Oh noes someone is harnessing me online!!!
http://www.funnyjunk.com/funny_pictures/4738581/Cyber-bullying/
http://i.imgur.com/nOhpIsC.jpg
http://www.funnyjunk.com/youtube/2149470/Cyber/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_ZiRT8Nwkk#t=65
http://www.funnyjunk.com/funny_pictures/4740890/Cyber-bullying/
Seriously grow the **** up. If someone steals from me in a significant way or fucks me over your dam right if I am given the opportunity I'm gonna knock them the **** out. I mean why would I not? I don't get the whole violence is wrong mentality. Violence is a tool just like any other social tool and can be quite effective at dealing with assholes. Just like any other social manipulation. |
Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
2503
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Posted - 2014.03.30 18:53:00 -
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Before someone draws an association...in no way am I asking players to physically commit suicide....no no! NO!
I will never shame, bully, or negatively harass players who participate in my challenges nor will I condone the behavior outside of the bounds of the game. We should all be like little Fonzies...cool. The dust challenge lottery is a celebration of the social tools CCP and fans have developed together, and the platform these tools can provide to craft rich, genuine experiences. We need to keep ourselves in check from time to time.
Again...please don't do this.
Video: I don't always fight dropships, but when I do...
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Silas Swakhammer
GamersForChrist
384
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Posted - 2014.03.30 20:41:00 -
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BAD FURRY wrote:so then sending someone your toon name and pass in eve to dust and then waiting a week or to then report the toon hacked to get the player IP banned from dust and eve online is fair game ?
just saying this has been used more then ones in eve/dust corps and in eve and dust CCP seems to always IP ban the wrong guy .
just asking then do,s this fall with in RL Harassment in the case player A go,s to player B and gives the account info over to player B just to report player B to you guys he,s a hacker and get his IP banned so player A can get his account back and get rid of player B from the game ! and go on to do the same to other players that player A dont like .
has Anyone really been far Even as decide two use even go want too do look more like
Pineapples on pizza.
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bamboo x
Eternal Beings
Proficiency V.
549
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Posted - 2014.03.30 23:57:00 -
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KaTaLy5t-87 wrote:Where I come from, harassment is a serious crime and if found guilty of any form of harassment then you would face several years in prison, a very costly legal bill and an extremely costly compensation payment to the victim.
Calm down there, it's not justified to put someone in prison for "any form" of harassment. If and only if these threats are actually followed up on and performed by the assailant then yes, it should be punishable by time in prison.
However any lawyer will tell you threats alone, even serious ones, will not go further than light jail time.
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Ansiiis The Trustworthy
Mocking Bird Inc.
947
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Posted - 2014.03.31 00:15:00 -
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Finding stuff about someones personal life is not cool. Saying that you will beat his ass up is alright.
Don't be stupid - I can obviously see you.
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Luk Manag
of Terror
TRE GAFFEL
357
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Posted - 2014.03.31 00:29:00 -
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I would like you to clarify the risks involved in false accusations. The meta here will have the riffraff planning 'clever' character assassinations, and I would like you to promise bans for mains of those proven to have brought forward false accusations.
There will be bullets. ACR+SMG
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ghtyui fdaqq
Kinsho Swords
Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2014.03.31 12:43:00 -
[43] - Quote
Kain Spero wrote:It can not be emphasized enough that as a community we should be aware of the line between the game and real life and always respect that line when it comes to topics such as harassment and real-life threats.
Dude your gay, go farm isk in PC by not fighting and getting everyone else to not fight, cause they took away your keys to the lock. Whod of thought the guy who doesnt want to fight thinks that the video game nerds are a real life threat.....? Ok CCP has to do some CYA here but lets be real, real life harassment, really? |
CELESTA AUNGM
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
139
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Posted - 2014.03.31 18:45:00 -
[44] - Quote
ghtyui fdaqq wrote:Kain Spero wrote:It can not be emphasized enough that as a community we should be aware of the line between the game and real life and always respect that line when it comes to topics such as harassment and real-life threats. Dude your gay, go farm isk in PC by not fighting and getting everyone else to not fight, cause they took away your keys to the lock. Whod of thought the guy who doesnt want to fight thinks that the video game nerds are a real life threat.....? Ok CCP has to do some CYA here but lets be real, real life harassment, really?
 Wow...
I can see here (anyone can see here) from the WIDE point-of-view spread in these posts, that the issue is REAL.
If you're confusing Character-wallets/Corporation-accounts trickery with PSN ID account trickery, then CCP has some work to do making the difference clear to players.
If you've found that, on other game sites, members can successfully assassinate other members through false accusing, thus creating the need for a separate police department to hunt down the fake-911 call (Yikes!), then that's one of the important challenges in store for CCP on this subject.
If you think that the "sissy, New Eden Racism, trash talk used to provoke and create grudge matches between players" is what we are referring to when we say "Harassment", then you're looking at the wrong thing.
If you don't understand by now that "harassment" is in the way the RECEIVER is vulnerable to being injured by what's being said, not in the way the SENDER wants her words to be interpretted... that's okay, you're not stupid for not knowing. It's a concept that has historically been hard for people to get their heads around.
It's not just that this Dust forum site could end up a full of predators and victims as other game sites (EVE online to a certain degree too, from what I hear). It's that, as CCP implies, WE WANT SOME OF THE NAME-CALLING, PROVOKING, PUG-TALK to BE in the fourm. It's necessary for the character decepitons, trust-breaking, grudge-baiting, corp-infiltration, and scheme-hatching that is supposed to be part of the social nature of Dust, as we mercs try to establish business dealings with capsuleers in the furture.
It's the real-world references that we don't need in our fourm at all, because it's going to get in the way of our honest character-scheming and merc-business-making. I don't need to grab a term from a Muslim dictionary to trash-talk an Amar player; he doesn't need to name his Dust character Super**^$ or Kevin Bacon,... and BOTH actions are in violation of CCP's member account agreement.
CCP's big trick will be how to keep the New Eden-slanted bad behavior in the forum (it's valid!), but accurately jump on us every time we insert REALWORLD-slanted profanity, realworld people, or realworld subject matter into the fourm.
That would be a ground-breaker in gamer forums... |
Kevall Longstride
DUST University
Ivy League
1127
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Posted - 2014.03.31 20:15:00 -
[45] - Quote
I strongly endorse this policy.
Mercenary Clone of Dennie Fleetfoot
CEO of DUST University
CPM1 candidate
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RemingtonBeaver
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
503
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Posted - 2014.04.01 00:34:00 -
[46] - Quote
Glad it's there, no one should be afraid in real life over the goings on in a videogame.
We're still allowed to hate Spero right? 
We can pickle that.
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Mex-0
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2014.04.01 00:46:00 -
[47] - Quote
You're only allowed to threaten people IN THE GAME not in real life
Gallente Born, Caldari Specc'd.
Looking for a good corp to fund proto people
Weekend Warrior
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Luna Angelo
We Who Walk Alone
986
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Posted - 2014.04.01 04:41:00 -
[48] - Quote
To make the policy in my corp clearer, we constantly remind each other not to bring up RL politics, religion, disabilities, etc. We do argue about whether the Gallente or Caldari are better (Caldari, for the record) and constantly call each other in game names. EXAMPLE: I call Gallentes Frogs. Do I mean that the PLAYER is an amphibious creature that eats flies? No, I meant the TOON is such. But I would never call anyone a name if they are deaf, mute, Muslim, Christian, Republican, Democrat, or whatever. That has no place in video games.
I don't need luck, I have a cloak.
Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep.
CEO of We Who Walk Alone
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Fristname Family name
R 0 N 1 N
73
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Posted - 2014.04.01 10:53:00 -
[49] - Quote
Minor Treat wrote:Harassment is not cool, thats all folks.
I know your corp has had to deal with a member being harrased. It was brutel man, I was not amazed after hearing that going on that this was posted as im shure there are many similer cases out there.
Australian mercy worky.
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Dj grammer
Red Star.
EoN.
170
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Posted - 2014.04.01 18:07:00 -
[50] - Quote
You have (like I do) to keep telling yourself it is just a game. That is all DUST is people just a programmable code for our enjoyment. However people take thing way too far and would wish harm/harass others online without even knowing anything about the person nor their personal life. Great example would be the war room. I thank CCP Saberwing for stepping up to the plate and calling this out.
I have zero, ZERO, Z WITH AN O, tolerance for people harassing others online (cyber bullying if you do not know). Another great example, Being called a (two letters) +gger/gga (it only means something if I MAKE IT MEAN SOMETHING) online multiple times online. Cannot show my race online just shows how bad this had became. Again thank you Saberwing for stepping up and speaking out.
Open Beta (12/13/2012) to a 1-year Vet.
Have been a Logistics user since Uprising 1.0.
Yea that old.
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NomaDz 2K
The Rainbow Effect
Negative-Feedback
134
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Posted - 2014.04.01 19:25:00 -
[51] - Quote
So I guess one could get someone to pay another person a visit and no one would be the wiser
Harsh world the real world is...
isn't it
DON'T SPEND CA$H ON DUST 514
CCP WILL ONLY GIVE YOU AUR AFTER THEY REMOVE YOUR BPOs WHICH U SPENT REAL MONGé¼Y ON!
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Gigatron Prime
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
339
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Posted - 2014.04.01 19:47:00 -
[52] - Quote
It all comes down to common sense.
You should feel honored to even be in my presence.
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8213
BIG BAD W0LVES
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
2075
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Posted - 2014.04.02 05:28:00 -
[53] - Quote
Kain Spero wrote:It can not be emphasized enough that as a community we should be aware of the line between the game and real life and always respect that line when it comes to topics such as harassment and real-life threats.
This will always be a delicate balance, but you also have to remember. If you evoke real life emotions, you've gone to far. If you've lead people on for months at a time, and screw them over, it may be all part of a game, but you hurt their feelings and let them down.
People devote their time to this game, they want to enjoy their experience. Some people like to be the a**hole, but lying to gain leverage over someone's hard work is wrong; even in New Eden. Real friendships have formed and broke over this 'game'... so what kind of game does that make? Especially a game that kids can play, and people can spend their real money on.
I know people that hate you, Spero. And they've never actually dealt with you, or know what you do as Kain Spero the pirate of New Eden, and as the real life CPM.
If you do something for the community, and you state that you do, it is a reflection as CPM, not an in-game character.So you have to be careful how your present your actions.
Personally, I have no issues with you. In the game, I have none either. On the battlefield, I certainly don't have any issues, I'll just pop your tanks and be on my merry way :)
I ain't got time for dat sh!t
At least I'm not King ThunderBolt
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dustwaffle
Xer Cloud Consortium
747
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Posted - 2014.04.02 06:05:00 -
[54] - Quote
8213 wrote:This will always be a delicate balance, but you also have to remember. If you evoke real life emotions, you've gone to far. If you've lead people on for months at a time, and screw them over, it may be all part of a game, but you hurt their feelings and let them down.
People devote their time to this game, they want to enjoy their experience. Some people like to be the a**hole, but lying to gain leverage over someone's hard work is wrong; even in New Eden. Real friendships have formed and broke over this 'game'... so what kind of game does that make? Especially a game that kids can play, and people can spend their real money on.
I know people that hate you, Spero. And they've never actually dealt with you, or know what you do as Kain Spero the pirate of New Eden, and as the real life CPM.
If you do something for the community, and you state that you do, it is a reflection as CPM, not an in-game character.So you have to be careful how your present your actions.
Personally, I have no issues with you. In the game, I have none either. On the battlefield, I certainly don't have any issues, I'll just pop your tanks and be on my merry way :)
Real life emotions will always be evoked in games with permanent loss, as players tend to get attached to their stuff. Even in super mario, you'd feel happy (a real life emotion) the first time you smack king koopa's ass around. It's how much further you take your distress that is the distinction between mature and immature players.
Lying to gain leverage over someone is commonplace in New Eden, and endorsed/encouraged by CCP, get over it.
This game is rated according to the 'content' it has, i.e. blood and gore/sexual NPCs etc., online interaction is not and can never be rated, unless voice and text communications are constantly filtered. If people are worried about exposing their kids to this kind of interaction, it's the responsibility of the parents to monitor what their kids have access to, not CCP or anyone else.
Just my thoughts. Not directed at you specifically. |
Hansei Kaizen
The Jackson Five
68
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Posted - 2014.04.02 10:05:00 -
[55] - Quote
I think if real money (or potential real money) is on the line, stolen or lost, there will always be individuals that will do anything in their power to enforce their interests. I think out-of-game (virtual or real life) extortion and harrasment are criminal acts, if there are any and punishable by the legal framework of the local authorities. The details are up for the courts to discuss on a case by case basis ("rule of law" and such).
The hard part here is to draw the line between in-game and out-of-game. Is that line clearly drawn in the Terms of Service as is?
Hello I am a casual solo player. Nice to meet you. What? Yes, I really exist!
Dust NPE status today: (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+
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Aran Abbas
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
331
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Posted - 2014.04.02 13:27:00 -
[56] - Quote
So what prompted this announcement? I'm very much out of the loop. |
Takron Nistrom
Tinfoil Hatz
288
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Posted - 2014.04.02 18:33:00 -
[57] - Quote
I dont agree with that activity, but it is the victims fault for falling for something so blatently false.
GÇ£Pulvis et umbra sumus. (We are but dust and shadow.)GÇ¥
GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace
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The Shadow514
L.O.T.I.S.
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
8
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Posted - 2014.04.02 19:44:00 -
[58] - Quote
By putting a statement saying its not ok is not going to put people off they will just be more tactful about it. Statements won't change anything however actions will. |
General John Ripper
19356
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Posted - 2014.04.04 17:52:00 -
[59] - Quote
I am a victim of this.
My like count = respec petition
Sign it to let CCP know we are serious.
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Righteous Holylight
God's Kingdom
6
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Posted - 2014.04.04 23:39:00 -
[60] - Quote
GVGMODE wrote:CCP should take a step forward and protect the users in Dust 514.
If CCP is really concerned about the identity of their player they would actually demonstrate it with in-game changes, such as:
1) Making the PSN ID private (not shown to other players in any form it must include the character sheet/character information).
2) No character name should match the real life name of a player.
3) No character name should match the PSN ID or email account.
For security and privacy concerns.
That's why you go to "Account Managment" via XMB menu to activate your privacy settings. You can disable messeges that do not come from the friends list and also disable unwanted friend requests. Well, that is only useful for the PSN ID part. :) |
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General John Ripper
19376
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Posted - 2014.04.05 23:44:00 -
[61] - Quote
Righteous Holylight wrote:GVGMODE wrote:CCP should take a step forward and protect the users in Dust 514.
If CCP is really concerned about the identity of their player they would actually demonstrate it with in-game changes, such as:
1) Making the PSN ID private (not shown to other players in any form it must include the character sheet/character information).
2) No character name should match the real life name of a player.
3) No character name should match the PSN ID or email account.
For security and privacy concerns.
That's why you go to "Account Managment" via XMB menu to activate your privacy settings. You can disable messeges that do not come from the friends list and also disable unwanted friend requests. Well, that is only useful for the PSN ID part. :)
that would work if hundreds of people on this game don't already know my real name, what i look like in real life, and my facebook page.
My like count = respec petition
Sign it to let CCP know we are serious.
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steadyhand amarr
TeamPlayers
Dirt Nap Squad.
2802
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Posted - 2014.04.09 10:44:00 -
[62] - Quote
Necandi Brasil wrote:Denak Kalamari wrote:For those wondering, this blog, and the debates that broke out all over the EVE forums regarding the subject, is what spurred CCP to make this announcement. Suffice to say, I am absolutely disgusted by it, and I'm glad CCP is making a stance on it. Torture man... I'm really sorry for that guy. Wow ... hope CCP bans this guy. Probably a douche IRL aswell...
To be able to do that to someone and not feel empathy is huge signs of a psychopath it is highly likely this guy doesnt understand why people DONT find it funny or why its wrong. If i was at ccp i would be contacting the police to get that user checked out. Its only a small step to do it for real :-( genualy sickend by that
Hell even Microsoft does that these days
"i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk"
winner of EU squad cup
GOGO power rangers
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Jaed D'jaegweir
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2014.04.11 15:04:00 -
[63] - Quote
can not be gated?
COD Ghosts takes these types of people who cheat, Scam, and everything mentioned and puts them in a separate server to battle each other instead of allowing them to plague the gaming experience of those who want to play a legit game without their shenanigans.
"We do not live in a world of reality. We live in a world of perceptions." -Gerald Simmons
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Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
1020
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Posted - 2014.04.15 00:02:00 -
[64] - Quote
No statement from AE, heheh.
PLC, NK, Scout - before 1.8.
That's right, I stack that OP Sh!t.
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Dj grammer
Red Star.
EoN.
187
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Posted - 2014.04.15 05:43:00 -
[65] - Quote
8213 wrote:Kain Spero wrote:It can not be emphasized enough that as a community we should be aware of the line between the game and real life and always respect that line when it comes to topics such as harassment and real-life threats. People devote their time to this game, they want to enjoy their experience. Some people like to be the a**hole, but lying to gain leverage over someone's hard work is wrong; even in New Eden. Real friendships have formed and broke over this 'game'... so what kind of game does that make? Especially a game that kids can play, and people can spend their real money on. I know people that hate you, Spero. And they've never actually dealt with you, or know what you do as Kain Spero the pirate of New Eden, and as the real life CPM. If you do something for the community, and you state that you do, it is a reflection as CPM, not an in-game character.So you have to be careful how your present your actions.
+1 to 8213 but I quoted what I think was important there that also contribute to harassment (may sound stupid so get your repellent ready).
Kain Spero, in real life I do not know you and vise versa and I have no problems with you to a degree. The main problem is the arrogance you pass off giving a false impression that you are helping the community when in light you are helping yourself. Being honest I see DNS as a harassment to EVERYONE playing DUST and yet I have no hate for them. Why is that? Let us go back to 8213's point of hard work in this game.
People had played this game since the beta phases and literally worked themselves to the place they are at now e.g. STB, Hellstorm, Red Star., Imperfects from back in the day, WTF, and etc.. (the list goes on). Yet I have no hate for them because of the hard work they put into the game.
So what did you do as Kain Spero the DUST Merc? You did what you had to do to make yourself great BUT having to talk your way into things instead of proving yourself to others is my way of taking the "easy way out." What do you mean by that? How much ISK are you sitting on right now after creating DNS? Better question how is this linked to harassment and myself is what you would ask yourself. Let us take DNS from the war room offering 128 million ISK challenges to who could beat them. To me that is taking what you had done to PC and rubbing it into the faces of people who play this game. Be suprised this counts towards harassment and yet it seemed like it doesn't.
So what do you do as Kain Spero the CPM under CCP? Now I may not know how stressful or not the position might be (disclaimer). After reading post it seems as if you use what you did as Kain Spero the merc and post it to get fixes as the CPM. That is dirty, real dirty. Realize that being a CPM means YOU ARE SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE WHOLE COMMUNITY NOT JUST A GROUP OF PEOPLE! If you know something is wrong do not try to make the problem nor make it worse (hint hint PC) and then try to post if off as a problem. Lately it seems like you have been using the CPM position to serve self then to serve the community. How? well....Who made DNS or had the idea of it? Whose idea was it to take over 100% of MH so it could be posted as a problem? Who is getting ready to be financially stable for the rest of their playing life in DUST? Who effectively killed off PC and FW?
TL:DR? Kain Spero I have no beef with you, but you need to think before speaking. Ask this question to yourself, are you going to serve the community as the CPM or serve yourself and your friends as the CPM? You should carefully plan out your actions and how you present them before doing them because the community will look back at what you done and will be judgemental towards you for the works you did as CPM.
Open Beta (12/13/2012) to a 1-year Vet.
Have been a Logistics user since Uprising 1.0.
Yea that old.
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Dj grammer
Red Star.
EoN.
204
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Posted - 2014.04.20 01:04:00 -
[66] - Quote
Kain Spero wrote:It can not be emphasized enough that as a community we should be aware of the line between the game and real life and always respect that line when it comes to topics such as harassment and real-life threats.
I need to speak with you on dust with mic
Open Beta (03/26/2012) to a 1-year Vet.
Have been a Logistics user since Uprising 1.0.
Yea that old.
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Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property
Dirt Nap Squad.
6986
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Posted - 2014.04.20 01:06:00 -
[67] - Quote
Dj grammer wrote:Kain Spero wrote:It can not be emphasized enough that as a community we should be aware of the line between the game and real life and always respect that line when it comes to topics such as harassment and real-life threats. I need to speak with you on dust with mic
It's none of my businesses here, but I believe the term is refereed to as "on comms"
Proud member of D!ck Nibbler Squad [DNS]
[s]Text[/s] <------ That's how you make a strike-through
-HAND
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General John Ripper
20255
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Posted - 2014.04.20 07:33:00 -
[68] - Quote
Atiim wrote:Dj grammer wrote:Kain Spero wrote:It can not be emphasized enough that as a community we should be aware of the line between the game and real life and always respect that line when it comes to topics such as harassment and real-life threats. I need to speak with you on dust with mic It's none of my businesses here, but I believe the term is refereed to as "on comms"
Approved. Your now allowed to meddle in other peoples business to provide them with a dose of constructive criticism.
Everytime I get a like, another bug is fixed.
Everytime I get a like, Two more bugs are born.
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Immortal John Ripper
22379
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Posted - 2014.04.20 07:33:00 -
[69] - Quote
Atiim wrote:Dj grammer wrote:Kain Spero wrote:It can not be emphasized enough that as a community we should be aware of the line between the game and real life and always respect that line when it comes to topics such as harassment and real-life threats. I need to speak with you on dust with mic It's none of my businesses here, but I believe the term is refereed to as "on comms"
Approved. Your now allowed to meddle in other peoples business to provide them with a dose of constructive criticism.
Your heart's desire is to be told some mystery. The mystery is that there is no mystery.
I am the Alpha and the Omega.
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Chewie Parker
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
125
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Posted - 2014.04.24 14:01:00 -
[70] - Quote
this game has zero accountability , you say its fair to let us be robbed harrased & stolen from in game , without any sort of policing or insurance offered on hard work that a group putts in , and that its "all part of the fun" when 1 person defrauds the rest of said group . yet if we then where to offend someone in real life (exactly where you draw a line here is questionable) through a voiced threat , then we become the aggressor & the sneak thief/ troll becomes the victim ?
don't commit the crime if your not willing to do the time . |
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Badgerr Rager
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Dirt Nap Squad.
783
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Posted - 2014.04.26 05:24:00 -
[71] - Quote
Chewie Parker wrote:this game has zero accountability , you say its fair to let us be robbed harrased & stolen from in game , without any sort of policing or insurance offered on hard work that a group putts in , and that its "all part of the fun" when 1 person defrauds the rest of said group . yet if we then where to offend someone in real life (exactly where you draw a line here is questionable) through a voiced threat , then we become the aggressor & the sneak thief/ troll becomes the victim ?
don't commit the crime if your not willing to do the time .
You keep shaggin your sheep 
34th Imperial Crusader Officer.
Amarr Victor!
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Chewie Parker
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
125
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Posted - 2014.05.03 11:46:00 -
[72] - Quote
Badgerr Rager wrote:Chewie Parker wrote:this game has zero accountability , you say its fair to let us be robbed harrased & stolen from in game , without any sort of policing or insurance offered on hard work that a group putts in , and that its "all part of the fun" when 1 person defrauds the rest of said group . yet if we then where to offend someone in real life (exactly where you draw a line here is questionable) through a voiced threat , then we become the aggressor & the sneak thief/ troll becomes the victim ?
don't commit the crime if your not willing to do the time . You keep shaggin your sheep
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
League of Infamy
2962
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Posted - 2014.05.03 15:51:00 -
[73] - Quote
I would like to report CCP for real-life harrassment.
o7
I'm out. See you on the other side.
psn: bobswerski
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Badgerr Rager
Dirt Nap Squad.
787
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Posted - 2014.05.03 16:47:00 -
[74] - Quote
John Demonsbane wrote:I would like to report CCP for real-life harrassment.
Do you shag sheep as well ?
I would like CCP to Biomass Legion.
You pieces of Sh*t
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
League of Infamy
2997
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Posted - 2014.05.04 02:06:00 -
[75] - Quote
Badgerr Rager wrote:John Demonsbane wrote:I would like to report CCP for real-life harrassment. Do you shag sheep as well ?
I do not. That's an odd question. I was referring to the Legion project and ensuing sh!tstorm.
o7
I'm out. See you on the other side.
psn: bobswerski
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Dalmont Legrand
425
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Posted - 2014.05.18 13:16:00 -
[76] - Quote
CCP Saberwing wrote:Hello everyone,
For the last few weeks the community has been debating the topic of real life harassment, and its connection to the EVE Universe. The EVE Universe Community Team has been working on this issue for some time now, and has had extensive discussions about it with your elected representatives, the Council of Stellar Management.
EVE is a virtual world whose inhabitants have more freedom to play the villain and experiment with various backhanded tactics than in any other MMO. The freedom to scam and commit piracy, espionage, and extortion are all fundamental to the EVE Online experience, and CCP will never change that. However, it is important to remember that the EVE universe is a virtual world, and behavior of this nature should remain firmly within that virtual world.
While the content of online interactions between players cannot realistically be gated within our game worlds, CCP strongly disapproves of clear and extraordinary levels of real life harassment against our players in the outside world.
CCP, in collaboration with the CSM, have agreed and would like to state in the strongest possible terms and in accordance with our existing Terms of Service and End User License Agreement, that real life harassment is morally reprehensible, and verifiable examples of such behavior will be met with disciplinary action against game accounts in accordance with our Terms of Service.
Harassment poses a potential problem in any virtual world, and CCP has dealt with cases of this nature for more than a decade. We will continue to monitor and evaluate claims of harassment based on our policies and acceptable standards of behavior.
As always, CCP will not discuss specific cases of policy enforcement. However, if you have any questions regarding this statement, please feel free to pose them in this thread, and we will respond to the best of our ability.
- The EVE Universe Community Team
Then you should starts a massive clean-up in Russian forum section, because levels of threatening and disrespectful behavior without real background are happening through months already, Russian part becomes "favellas", the ghetto which it wasn't and it shouldn't be. Now I realize that Russian Devs are aimed for EVE but gosh, make it possible to clean all those harassments that come from players that really do not know how to behave, they basically spook new players, when there is society, there is order and gaming society has an order so make sure it is on top of whole society and not on the prioritized once. Just do a brutal clean-up... because standards of behavior simply do not exist in minds of those players and I hate reporting, but even doing so the result is almost null and players that continue behaving cannot communicate and interact with those who doesn't know simple fact as ethics. 
The best is yet to come
CPM1 Candidate
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Aellar Dae
LUX AETERNA INT
RUST415
273
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Posted - 2014.06.06 11:40:00 -
[77] - Quote
Dalmont Legrand wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:Hello everyone,
For the last few weeks the community has been debating the topic of real life harassment, and its connection to the EVE Universe. The EVE Universe Community Team has been working on this issue for some time now, and has had extensive discussions about it with your elected representatives, the Council of Stellar Management.
EVE is a virtual world whose inhabitants have more freedom to play the villain and experiment with various backhanded tactics than in any other MMO. The freedom to scam and commit piracy, espionage, and extortion are all fundamental to the EVE Online experience, and CCP will never change that. However, it is important to remember that the EVE universe is a virtual world, and behavior of this nature should remain firmly within that virtual world.
While the content of online interactions between players cannot realistically be gated within our game worlds, CCP strongly disapproves of clear and extraordinary levels of real life harassment against our players in the outside world.
CCP, in collaboration with the CSM, have agreed and would like to state in the strongest possible terms and in accordance with our existing Terms of Service and End User License Agreement, that real life harassment is morally reprehensible, and verifiable examples of such behavior will be met with disciplinary action against game accounts in accordance with our Terms of Service.
Harassment poses a potential problem in any virtual world, and CCP has dealt with cases of this nature for more than a decade. We will continue to monitor and evaluate claims of harassment based on our policies and acceptable standards of behavior.
As always, CCP will not discuss specific cases of policy enforcement. However, if you have any questions regarding this statement, please feel free to pose them in this thread, and we will respond to the best of our ability.
- The EVE Universe Community Team Then you should starts a massive clean-up in Russian forum section, because levels of threatening and disrespectful behavior without real background are happening through months already, Russian part becomes "favellas", the ghetto which it wasn't and it shouldn't be. Now I realize that Russian Devs are aimed for EVE but gosh, make it possible to clean all those harassments that come from players that really do not know how to behave, they basically spook new players, when there is society, there is order and gaming society has an order so make sure it is on top of whole society and not on the prioritized once. Just do a brutal clean-up... because standards of behavior simply do not exist in minds of those players and I hate reporting, but even doing so the result is almost null and players that continue behaving cannot communicate and interact with those who doesn't know simple fact as ethics. EDIT: You should find a way of tracking new accounts on PSN from players that were banned, sometimes banning is not enough and they come back to forums just to continue, yes we have those that have nothing to do but to create disorder on forum no matter how many times they were banned.
I support this statement. As a victim of regular harassment and provocative acts of humiliation and insults I confirm that Russian thread lacks for proper moderation and preventive measures.
Multiple times I appealed to CCP through help tickets regarding rulebreakers and trouble-makers on Russian forum thread and the only effective result was my "amnesty". I am grateful for that, but that does not solves a problem of chaos in the community.
I would suggest CCP to assign some special group of volunteers and make them in charge of order and repsectful communication on forums. This practice is wideley used through community forums where active and respectable forum users become moderators. It is much easier for GMs and CMs to monitor activity of limited amount of volunteer moderators, then to monitor whole population of forum.
Please consider this. One of the reason why some valuable players abandoned this game is constant, vulgar and unpunished harassment and agression on forums. This game is intended for serious people and it should get rid of some part of players, incapable of civilized dialog. This will bring more mature people ingame. And more mature people means more income for CCP and more useful feedback from community. This is obvious.
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