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The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback
2621
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Posted - 2014.03.29 22:38:00 -
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Is this stuff about Erotica1 beeing banned from Eve?
I shall show you a world, a world which you cant imagine, a world full off butthurt n00bs at the other end of my gun
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GVGMODE
WorstPlayersEver
163
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Posted - 2014.03.29 23:30:00 -
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CCP should take a step forward and protect the users in Dust 514.
If CCP is really concerned about the identity of their player they would actually demonstrate it with in-game changes, such as:
1) Making the PSN ID private (not shown to other players in any form it must include the character sheet/character information). 2) No character name should match the real life name of a player. 3) No character name should match the PSN ID or email account.
For security and privacy concerns.
Pilot: (Tanks / Assault Dropships)
Skype: GVGMODE
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Luna Angelo
We Who Walk Alone
974
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Posted - 2014.03.30 05:09:00 -
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GVGMODE wrote:CCP should take a step forward and protect the users in Dust 514.
If CCP is really concerned about the identity of their player they would actually demonstrate it with in-game changes, such as:
1) Making the PSN ID private (not shown to other players in any form it must include the character sheet/character information). 2) No character name should match the real life name of a player. 3) No character name should match the PSN ID or email account.
For security and privacy concerns.
The problem with the first one is the BPO Code scams. We need the names, as THAT is illegal, and bannable.
I don't need luck, I have a cloak.
Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep.
CEO of We Who Walk Alone
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The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback
2631
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Posted - 2014.03.30 14:31:00 -
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Not showing PSN names? What would that be good for? On every single other game on PS3 your PSN name is displayed to other players. And knowing the PSN name from some 1 is not like if you know their email or password for their account.
I shall show you a world, a world which you cant imagine, a world full off butthurt n00bs at the other end of my gun
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Neoproto D
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2014.03.30 14:41:00 -
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Huge props to CCP for taking a stance against this. |
BAD FURRY
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
699
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Posted - 2014.03.30 16:49:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:Hello everyone,
For the last few weeks the community has been debating the topic of real life harassment, and its connection to the EVE Universe. The EVE Universe Community Team has been working on this issue for some time now, and has had extensive discussions about it with your elected representatives, the Council of Stellar Management.
EVE is a virtual world whose inhabitants have more freedom to play the villain and experiment with various backhanded tactics than in any other MMO. The freedom to scam and commit piracy, espionage, and extortion are all fundamental to the EVE Online experience, and CCP will never change that. However, it is important to remember that the EVE universe is a virtual world, and behavior of this nature should remain firmly within that virtual world.
While the content of online interactions between players cannot realistically be gated within our game worlds, CCP strongly disapproves of clear and extraordinary levels of real life harassment against our players in the outside world.
CCP, in collaboration with the CSM, have agreed and would like to state in the strongest possible terms and in accordance with our existing Terms of Service and End User License Agreement, that real life harassment is morally reprehensible, and verifiable examples of such behavior will be met with disciplinary action against game accounts in accordance with our Terms of Service.
Harassment poses a potential problem in any virtual world, and CCP has dealt with cases of this nature for more than a decade. We will continue to monitor and evaluate claims of harassment based on our policies and acceptable standards of behavior.
As always, CCP will not discuss specific cases of policy enforcement. However, if you have any questions regarding this statement, please feel free to pose them in this thread, and we will respond to the best of our ability.
- The EVE Universe Community Team
so then sending someone your toon name and pass in eve to dust and then waiting a week or to then report the toon hacked to get the player IP banned from dust and eve online is fair game ?
just saying this has been used more then ones in eve/dust corps and in eve and dust CCP seems to always IP ban the wrong guy .
just asking then do,s this fall with in RL Harassment in the case player A go,s to player B and gives the account info over to player B just to report player B to you guys he,s a hacker and get his IP banned so player A can get his account back and get rid of player B from the game ! and go on to do the same to other players that player A dont like .
Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
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Bro-metheus
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
83
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Posted - 2014.03.30 18:31:00 -
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God people are such ******* nerds. Harassment is a part of life. get ******* used to it. Oh noes someone is harnessing me online!!!
http://www.funnyjunk.com/funny_pictures/4738581/Cyber-bullying/
http://i.imgur.com/nOhpIsC.jpg
http://www.funnyjunk.com/youtube/2149470/Cyber/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_ZiRT8Nwkk#t=65
http://www.funnyjunk.com/funny_pictures/4740890/Cyber-bullying/
Seriously grow the **** up. If someone steals from me in a significant way or fucks me over your dam right if I am given the opportunity I'm gonna knock them the **** out. I mean why would I not? I don't get the whole violence is wrong mentality. Violence is a tool just like any other social tool and can be quite effective at dealing with assholes. Just like any other social manipulation. |
Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
2503
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Posted - 2014.03.30 18:53:00 -
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Before someone draws an association...in no way am I asking players to physically commit suicide....no no! NO!
I will never shame, bully, or negatively harass players who participate in my challenges nor will I condone the behavior outside of the bounds of the game. We should all be like little Fonzies...cool. The dust challenge lottery is a celebration of the social tools CCP and fans have developed together, and the platform these tools can provide to craft rich, genuine experiences. We need to keep ourselves in check from time to time.
Again...please don't do this.
Video: I don't always fight dropships, but when I do...
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Silas Swakhammer
GamersForChrist
384
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Posted - 2014.03.30 20:41:00 -
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BAD FURRY wrote:so then sending someone your toon name and pass in eve to dust and then waiting a week or to then report the toon hacked to get the player IP banned from dust and eve online is fair game ?
just saying this has been used more then ones in eve/dust corps and in eve and dust CCP seems to always IP ban the wrong guy .
just asking then do,s this fall with in RL Harassment in the case player A go,s to player B and gives the account info over to player B just to report player B to you guys he,s a hacker and get his IP banned so player A can get his account back and get rid of player B from the game ! and go on to do the same to other players that player A dont like . has Anyone really been far Even as decide two use even go want too do look more like
Pineapples on pizza.
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bamboo x
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
549
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Posted - 2014.03.30 23:57:00 -
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KaTaLy5t-87 wrote:Where I come from, harassment is a serious crime and if found guilty of any form of harassment then you would face several years in prison, a very costly legal bill and an extremely costly compensation payment to the victim.
Calm down there, it's not justified to put someone in prison for "any form" of harassment. If and only if these threats are actually followed up on and performed by the assailant then yes, it should be punishable by time in prison.
However any lawyer will tell you threats alone, even serious ones, will not go further than light jail time.
B.D. Wong AKA Dr. Wu returns to Jurassic Park sequel
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Ansiiis The Trustworthy
Mocking Bird Inc.
947
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Posted - 2014.03.31 00:15:00 -
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Finding stuff about someones personal life is not cool. Saying that you will beat his ass up is alright.
Don't be stupid - I can obviously see you.
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Luk Manag
of Terror TRE GAFFEL
357
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Posted - 2014.03.31 00:29:00 -
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I would like you to clarify the risks involved in false accusations. The meta here will have the riffraff planning 'clever' character assassinations, and I would like you to promise bans for mains of those proven to have brought forward false accusations.
There will be bullets. ACR+SMG
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ghtyui fdaqq
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2014.03.31 12:43:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:It can not be emphasized enough that as a community we should be aware of the line between the game and real life and always respect that line when it comes to topics such as harassment and real-life threats. Dude your gay, go farm isk in PC by not fighting and getting everyone else to not fight, cause they took away your keys to the lock. Whod of thought the guy who doesnt want to fight thinks that the video game nerds are a real life threat.....? Ok CCP has to do some CYA here but lets be real, real life harassment, really? |
CELESTA AUNGM
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
139
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Posted - 2014.03.31 18:45:00 -
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ghtyui fdaqq wrote:Kain Spero wrote:It can not be emphasized enough that as a community we should be aware of the line between the game and real life and always respect that line when it comes to topics such as harassment and real-life threats. Dude your gay, go farm isk in PC by not fighting and getting everyone else to not fight, cause they took away your keys to the lock. Whod of thought the guy who doesnt want to fight thinks that the video game nerds are a real life threat.....? Ok CCP has to do some CYA here but lets be real, real life harassment, really?
Wow... I can see here (anyone can see here) from the WIDE point-of-view spread in these posts, that the issue is REAL. If you're confusing Character-wallets/Corporation-accounts trickery with PSN ID account trickery, then CCP has some work to do making the difference clear to players.
If you've found that, on other game sites, members can successfully assassinate other members through false accusing, thus creating the need for a separate police department to hunt down the fake-911 call (Yikes!), then that's one of the important challenges in store for CCP on this subject.
If you think that the "sissy, New Eden Racism, trash talk used to provoke and create grudge matches between players" is what we are referring to when we say "Harassment", then you're looking at the wrong thing.
If you don't understand by now that "harassment" is in the way the RECEIVER is vulnerable to being injured by what's being said, not in the way the SENDER wants her words to be interpretted... that's okay, you're not stupid for not knowing. It's a concept that has historically been hard for people to get their heads around.
It's not just that this Dust forum site could end up a full of predators and victims as other game sites (EVE online to a certain degree too, from what I hear). It's that, as CCP implies, WE WANT SOME OF THE NAME-CALLING, PROVOKING, PUG-TALK to BE in the fourm. It's necessary for the character decepitons, trust-breaking, grudge-baiting, corp-infiltration, and scheme-hatching that is supposed to be part of the social nature of Dust, as we mercs try to establish business dealings with capsuleers in the furture. It's the real-world references that we don't need in our fourm at all, because it's going to get in the way of our honest character-scheming and merc-business-making. I don't need to grab a term from a Muslim dictionary to trash-talk an Amar player; he doesn't need to name his Dust character Super**^$ or Kevin Bacon,... and BOTH actions are in violation of CCP's member account agreement.
CCP's big trick will be how to keep the New Eden-slanted bad behavior in the forum (it's valid!), but accurately jump on us every time we insert REALWORLD-slanted profanity, realworld people, or realworld subject matter into the fourm.
That would be a ground-breaker in gamer forums... |
Kevall Longstride
DUST University Ivy League
1127
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Posted - 2014.03.31 20:15:00 -
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I strongly endorse this policy.
Mercenary Clone of Dennie Fleetfoot
CEO of DUST University
CPM1 candidate
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RemingtonBeaver
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
503
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Posted - 2014.04.01 00:34:00 -
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Glad it's there, no one should be afraid in real life over the goings on in a videogame.
We're still allowed to hate Spero right?
We can pickle that.
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Mex-0
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2014.04.01 00:46:00 -
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You're only allowed to threaten people IN THE GAME not in real life
Gallente Born, Caldari Specc'd.
Looking for a good corp to fund proto people
Weekend Warrior
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Luna Angelo
We Who Walk Alone
986
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Posted - 2014.04.01 04:41:00 -
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To make the policy in my corp clearer, we constantly remind each other not to bring up RL politics, religion, disabilities, etc. We do argue about whether the Gallente or Caldari are better (Caldari, for the record) and constantly call each other in game names. EXAMPLE: I call Gallentes Frogs. Do I mean that the PLAYER is an amphibious creature that eats flies? No, I meant the TOON is such. But I would never call anyone a name if they are deaf, mute, Muslim, Christian, Republican, Democrat, or whatever. That has no place in video games.
I don't need luck, I have a cloak.
Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep.
CEO of We Who Walk Alone
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Fristname Family name
R 0 N 1 N
73
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Posted - 2014.04.01 10:53:00 -
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Minor Treat wrote:Harassment is not cool, thats all folks. I know your corp has had to deal with a member being harrased. It was brutel man, I was not amazed after hearing that going on that this was posted as im shure there are many similer cases out there.
Australian mercy worky.
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Dj grammer
Red Star. EoN.
170
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Posted - 2014.04.01 18:07:00 -
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You have (like I do) to keep telling yourself it is just a game. That is all DUST is people just a programmable code for our enjoyment. However people take thing way too far and would wish harm/harass others online without even knowing anything about the person nor their personal life. Great example would be the war room. I thank CCP Saberwing for stepping up to the plate and calling this out.
I have zero, ZERO, Z WITH AN O, tolerance for people harassing others online (cyber bullying if you do not know). Another great example, Being called a (two letters) +gger/gga (it only means something if I MAKE IT MEAN SOMETHING) online multiple times online. Cannot show my race online just shows how bad this had became. Again thank you Saberwing for stepping up and speaking out.
Open Beta (12/13/2012) to a 1-year Vet.
Have been a Logistics user since Uprising 1.0.
Yea that old.
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NomaDz 2K
The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback
134
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Posted - 2014.04.01 19:25:00 -
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So I guess one could get someone to pay another person a visit and no one would be the wiser Harsh world the real world is... isn't it
DON'T SPEND CA$H ON DUST 514
CCP WILL ONLY GIVE YOU AUR AFTER THEY REMOVE YOUR BPOs WHICH U SPENT REAL MONGé¼Y ON!
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Gigatron Prime
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
339
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Posted - 2014.04.01 19:47:00 -
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It all comes down to common sense.
You should feel honored to even be in my presence.
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8213
BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives
2075
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Posted - 2014.04.02 05:28:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:It can not be emphasized enough that as a community we should be aware of the line between the game and real life and always respect that line when it comes to topics such as harassment and real-life threats.
This will always be a delicate balance, but you also have to remember. If you evoke real life emotions, you've gone to far. If you've lead people on for months at a time, and screw them over, it may be all part of a game, but you hurt their feelings and let them down.
People devote their time to this game, they want to enjoy their experience. Some people like to be the a**hole, but lying to gain leverage over someone's hard work is wrong; even in New Eden. Real friendships have formed and broke over this 'game'... so what kind of game does that make? Especially a game that kids can play, and people can spend their real money on.
I know people that hate you, Spero. And they've never actually dealt with you, or know what you do as Kain Spero the pirate of New Eden, and as the real life CPM. If you do something for the community, and you state that you do, it is a reflection as CPM, not an in-game character.So you have to be careful how your present your actions.
Personally, I have no issues with you. In the game, I have none either. On the battlefield, I certainly don't have any issues, I'll just pop your tanks and be on my merry way :)
I ain't got time for dat sh!t
At least I'm not King ThunderBolt
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dustwaffle
Xer Cloud Consortium
747
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Posted - 2014.04.02 06:05:00 -
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8213 wrote:This will always be a delicate balance, but you also have to remember. If you evoke real life emotions, you've gone to far. If you've lead people on for months at a time, and screw them over, it may be all part of a game, but you hurt their feelings and let them down.
People devote their time to this game, they want to enjoy their experience. Some people like to be the a**hole, but lying to gain leverage over someone's hard work is wrong; even in New Eden. Real friendships have formed and broke over this 'game'... so what kind of game does that make? Especially a game that kids can play, and people can spend their real money on.
I know people that hate you, Spero. And they've never actually dealt with you, or know what you do as Kain Spero the pirate of New Eden, and as the real life CPM. If you do something for the community, and you state that you do, it is a reflection as CPM, not an in-game character.So you have to be careful how your present your actions.
Personally, I have no issues with you. In the game, I have none either. On the battlefield, I certainly don't have any issues, I'll just pop your tanks and be on my merry way :) Real life emotions will always be evoked in games with permanent loss, as players tend to get attached to their stuff. Even in super mario, you'd feel happy (a real life emotion) the first time you smack king koopa's ass around. It's how much further you take your distress that is the distinction between mature and immature players.
Lying to gain leverage over someone is commonplace in New Eden, and endorsed/encouraged by CCP, get over it.
This game is rated according to the 'content' it has, i.e. blood and gore/sexual NPCs etc., online interaction is not and can never be rated, unless voice and text communications are constantly filtered. If people are worried about exposing their kids to this kind of interaction, it's the responsibility of the parents to monitor what their kids have access to, not CCP or anyone else.
Just my thoughts. Not directed at you specifically. |
Hansei Kaizen
The Jackson Five
68
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Posted - 2014.04.02 10:05:00 -
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I think if real money (or potential real money) is on the line, stolen or lost, there will always be individuals that will do anything in their power to enforce their interests. I think out-of-game (virtual or real life) extortion and harrasment are criminal acts, if there are any and punishable by the legal framework of the local authorities. The details are up for the courts to discuss on a case by case basis ("rule of law" and such).
The hard part here is to draw the line between in-game and out-of-game. Is that line clearly drawn in the Terms of Service as is?
Hello I am a casual solo player. Nice to meet you. What? Yes, I really exist!
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Aran Abbas
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
331
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Posted - 2014.04.02 13:27:00 -
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So what prompted this announcement? I'm very much out of the loop. |
Takron Nistrom
Tinfoil Hatz
288
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Posted - 2014.04.02 18:33:00 -
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I dont agree with that activity, but it is the victims fault for falling for something so blatently false.
GÇ£Pulvis et umbra sumus. (We are but dust and shadow.)GÇ¥
GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace
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The Shadow514
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
8
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Posted - 2014.04.02 19:44:00 -
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By putting a statement saying its not ok is not going to put people off they will just be more tactful about it. Statements won't change anything however actions will. |
General John Ripper
19356
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Posted - 2014.04.04 17:52:00 -
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I am a victim of this.
My like count = respec petition
Sign it to let CCP know we are serious.
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Righteous Holylight
God's Kingdom
6
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Posted - 2014.04.04 23:39:00 -
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GVGMODE wrote:CCP should take a step forward and protect the users in Dust 514.
If CCP is really concerned about the identity of their player they would actually demonstrate it with in-game changes, such as:
1) Making the PSN ID private (not shown to other players in any form it must include the character sheet/character information). 2) No character name should match the real life name of a player. 3) No character name should match the PSN ID or email account.
For security and privacy concerns.
That's why you go to "Account Managment" via XMB menu to activate your privacy settings. You can disable messeges that do not come from the friends list and also disable unwanted friend requests. Well, that is only useful for the PSN ID part. :) |
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