DUST Search - Scrub scout with a question for the scout veteran overlords...

Yan Darn wrote:

KingBabar wrote:

What defines a "brick tanked" scout? Or an "assaultscout" if you like.

I started out With a little over 700 HP but have steadily removed plates and added more scouty mods on my suit.

So I'm currently running With 160 Shields - 404 armor which makes the total HP 546.

Thats the setup I've ad the most success With, I noted my games yesterday and had a 5.9 KDR, without nothing but gun, nade and knife kills.

And please do mind, this is a protosuit, be reasonable and have that in mind, it cost a lot and is not to be considered against a dragonfly BPO....

So am I now considered a scout With a setup like this? or am I still a "tryhard Assault bricktanked scout FOTM Wannabe"?

How little HP must a scout suit have to be considered as being a "true scout"?

Is there a limit and whats the number?

A scout that a tryhard would choose to play over a brick tanked assault or slayer logi because of current weaknesses.

A scout that will be dropped as soon as assaults become the best at assaulting.

I was one of those who used AR+Scout when some people said it wasn't scouty. The point is I chose to use AR on a scout as opposed to say a logi.

Of course if you are of the mindset that DUST is and should be all about gank/tank and KDR, the nuances are all irrelevant I'm sure...

It's ok though, everyone knows you started brick tanking scouts before 1.8/before it was cool - like a whole 2 days before 1.8 dropped.

FU and FU Dust community, you're mostly a bunch of moronic carebear crybabies. Get good.

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KingBabar The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback 2074	Posted - 2014.03.28 14:18:00 - [1] - Quote What defines a "brick tanked" scout? Or an "assaultscout" if you like. I started out With a little over 700 HP but have steadily removed plates and added more scouty mods on my suit. So I'm currently running With 160 Shields - 404 armor which makes the total HP 546. Thats the setup I've ad the most success With, I noted my games yesterday and had a 5.9 KDR, without nothing but gun, nade and knife kills. And please do mind, this is a protosuit, be reasonable and have that in mind, it cost a lot and is not to be considered against a dragonfly BPO.... So am I now considered a scout With a setup like this? or am I still a "tryhard Assault bricktanked scout FOTM Wannabe"? How little HP must a scout suit have to be considered as being a "true scout"? Is there a limit and whats the number? FU and FU Dust community, you're mostly a bunch of moronic carebear crybabies. Get good.
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1971	Posted - 2014.03.28 14:20:00 - [2] - Quote Everything with a plate or a shield extender on their scout is a scrub. Look at my reactive plate scout btw: http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/0/2421 It is pretty amazing I tell ya. Drop it like its hat. I´m a fat scout. Do you even lift bro?
Vulpes Dolosus SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1157	Posted - 2014.03.28 14:21:00 - [3] - Quote Do what works for you. Who cares what others think. Being modular and not cookie-cutter is supposed to be a staple for this game. (I'll still call you a scrub for being a heavy sniper or something, but that doesn't really matter) Me in my ADS: 1,2
ResistanceGTA D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 683	Posted - 2014.03.28 14:24:00 - [4] - Quote Spectral Clone wrote: Everything with a plate or a shield extender on their scout is a scrub. Look at my reactive plate scout btw: http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/0/2421 Well, I have less total Health than you have Armor... And, I can still avoid your passive scan with my Minmatar, while scanning you. I'm sure I'm 'tanked' with two complex shield extenders though. I'm sitting just north of 350 eHP (350.2, which rounds down to 350). xSivartx is my Heavy. There are many like him, but he is my own... So, other Logi's back off, those are my Warpoints!
M1tch Rapp Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 55	Posted - 2014.03.28 14:24:00 - [5] - Quote I'll NEVER fault someone for setting up their suit in a way that is successful for them. Screw the haters
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 941	Posted - 2014.03.28 14:28:00 - [6] - Quote KingBabar is OP!
Heavenly Daughter the Aurum Grinder and Company 344	Posted - 2014.03.28 14:32:00 - [7] - Quote KingBabar wrote: What defines a "brick tanked" scout? Or an "assaultscout" if you like. I started out With a little over 700 HP but have steadily removed plates and added more scouty mods on my suit. So I'm currently running With 160 Shields - 404 armor which makes the total HP 546. Thats the setup I've ad the most success With, I noted my games yesterday and had a 5.9 KDR, without nothing but gun, nade and knife kills. And please do mind, this is a protosuit, be reasonable and have that in mind, it cost a lot and is not to be considered against a dragonfly BPO.... So am I now considered a scout With a setup like this? or am I still a "tryhard Assault bricktanked scout FOTM Wannabe"? How little HP must a scout suit have to be considered as being a "true scout"? Is there a limit and whats the number? Don't really care what you use, Only other people without vision will have a bad taste nin their mouths, like all the QQ about red line snipers lol, because they can and Should. Feel Free to wear what you like when and where ever you like be as effective as you can. What more can be asked. I too will be looking forward to truing my hand again at proto scout , it's been a long time. Tried a few quick runs and found it a little tricky but quite fun. The Organ Grinder & Co. EVE Heavenly Daughter-Merc Records
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1251	Posted - 2014.03.28 14:34:00 - [8] - Quote I've got 87 shields : 311 armor Passive scanners are pretty good
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 3874	Posted - 2014.03.28 14:34:00 - [9] - Quote KingBabar wrote: What defines a "brick tanked" scout? Or an "assaultscout" if you like. I started out With a little over 700 HP but have steadily removed plates and added more scouty mods on my suit. So I'm currently running With 160 Shields - 404 armor which makes the total HP 546. Thats the setup I've ad the most success With, I noted my games yesterday and had a 5.9 KDR, without nothing but gun, nade and knife kills. And please do mind, this is a protosuit, be reasonable and have that in mind, it cost a lot and is not to be considered against a dragonfly BPO.... So am I now considered a scout With a setup like this? or am I still a "tryhard Assault bricktanked scout FOTM Wannabe"? How little HP must a scout suit have to be considered as being a "true scout"? Is there a limit and whats the number? 404 ain't bad. You're a Gal Scout, so you have the low slots available to run a decent armor tank. That's like what? A complex Armor plate and a basic right? Some advice though, try dumping one of those complex shields for a precision enhancer. Noob scouts don't run dampener on their scouts, so a proto precision will let you pick them up when they run around uncloaked. I would also suggest running a Complex Reactive instead of a basic plate. You lose 20 armor, but you get your armor rep up to 5/s. I consider "tryhard Assault bricktanked scout FOTM Wannabe" people who just take a scout and don't focus on it's stealth or eWAR or anything. They just use almost every available slot to eHP tank. As for the limit? Heh. No real limit. Everyone has their own opinions. I only run around with 357 eHP, but my suit has heavy focus on Steatlh, Hacking, and Speed. I have other fits where I run almost 500 eHP, with combat weapons and armor repair on my min scout. I don't sacrifice my speed for it (Shields and Ferro's), but I do sacrifice my stealth and hack speed. Seems like a good trade when we just need another gun on the field. Which is sometimes needed. I got my cloak and daggers, I'm a very happy Ghost I hack at Mach V
Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1901	Posted - 2014.03.28 14:37:00 - [10] - Quote No matter what the "true Scouts" say, Scouts have to be nerfed. I would say likely by removing the extra high/low slot they received and the CPU/PG to go with that slot (and maybe slightly more as well), and maybe an increase to their base profile/precision. Winner of the EU Squad Cup & the closed beta Tester's Tournament. Go Go Power Rangers! R.I.P MAG.

Sana Rayya WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 1222	Posted - 2014.03.28 14:39:00 - [11] - Quote If you aren't OHK'd or nearly dead after one direct shotgun blast, you're stacking too much HP IMO. But since you're using knives I would not classify you as a brick tanker FOTM scout (assuming you actually try to get real knife kills, rather than reserving them for the dumb guy hacking a terminal or something). I think the FOTM scouts right now are the ones stacking EHP and using primarily rail/combat rifles and standard sidearms on top of healing nanohives :)
Sana Rayya WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 1222	Posted - 2014.03.28 14:40:00 - [12] - Quote Bendtner92 wrote: No matter what the "true Scouts" say, Scouts have to be nerfed. I would say likely by removing the extra high/low slot they received and the CPU/PG to go with that slot (and maybe slightly more as well), and maybe an increase to their base profile/precision. Not sure which game you're playing, but to me, base profile/precision only now matters between scouts using passive scanning. Seeing as active scanning is so ineffective in 1.8.
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1251	Posted - 2014.03.28 14:42:00 - [13] - Quote Bendtner92 wrote: No matter what the "true Scouts" say, Scouts have to be nerfed. I would say likely by removing the extra high/low slot they received and the CPU/PG to go with that slot (and maybe slightly more as well), and maybe an increase to their base profile/precision. No, bad idea Scouts are finally balenced Buff mediums
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 1272	Posted - 2014.03.28 14:43:00 - [14] - Quote KingBabar wrote: What defines a "brick tanked" scout? Or an "assaultscout" if you like. I started out With a little over 700 HP but have steadily removed plates and added more scouty mods on my suit. So I'm currently running With 160 Shields - 404 armor which makes the total HP 546. Thats the setup I've ad the most success With, I noted my games yesterday and had a 5.9 KDR, without nothing but gun, nade and knife kills. And please do mind, this is a protosuit, be reasonable and have that in mind, it cost a lot and is not to be considered against a dragonfly BPO.... So am I now considered a scout With a setup like this? or am I still a "tryhard Assault bricktanked scout FOTM Wannabe"? How little HP must a scout suit have to be considered as being a "true scout"? Is there a limit and whats the number? Have a Proto Cal Scout Ishukone Cloak Nanohives/Uplinks 2-3 Complex Extenders or 1-2 Complex Precision Enhancer Duvolle AR/Toxin SMG SG/Toxin SMG Enhanced Armor Repper Complex Profile Dampener. I have about 400+ EHP and i manage to hunt down Other Scouts 95% of the time... It's a bit difficult to fight Heavies or Commandos... But if the element of surprise is right on time, then yes it's exciting... It's still a learning process, i don't consider myself a scout. Just learning how to be one...
Rich o United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 177	Posted - 2014.03.28 14:49:00 - [15] - Quote KingBabar wrote: So am I now considered a scout With a setup like this? or am I still a "tryhard Assault bricktanked scout FOTM Wannabe"? How little HP must a scout suit have to be considered as being a "true scout"? Is there a limit and whats the number? Your playstyle defines your role, not your total HP. If you "assault" with your scout as if you run around in an assault, commando or heavy suit, then you're no "true scout". But being a "true scout" lies in the eye of the beholder and there are different opinions on what defines thise role. I, for myself, have 2 styles: the "scoutly scout" with 320 eHP and the "assaulty scout" with ~650 eHP (both GalScouts). The first one is used to sneak around, get in and out fast and to kill some lone wolves. Sometimes to troll around with cloak, REs and MD. The second one is to have fun with the squad and - yep - "assault". I don't have any problems with tanked scouts. To me they are nothing else than every other suit used to assault. 2nd place in EU Squad Cup Master Shinobi
Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1901	Posted - 2014.03.28 14:49:00 - [16] - Quote Sana Rayya wrote: Not sure which game you're playing, but to me, base profile/precision only now matters between scouts using passive scanning. Seeing as active scanning is so ineffective in 1.8. Active scanning is mostly broke because Scouts are OP and can evade them too easily. I think the profile reduction on the Cloak needs to be removed and base profile/precision on Scouts increased to 40/40 or 40/45. Winner of the EU Squad Cup & the closed beta Tester's Tournament. Go Go Power Rangers! R.I.P MAG.
Krad Gunnerson The Jita Martyr's Brigade 19	Posted - 2014.03.28 14:51:00 - [17] - Quote NAV HIV wrote: KingBabar wrote: What defines a "brick tanked" scout? Or an "assaultscout" if you like. I started out With a little over 700 HP but have steadily removed plates and added more scouty mods on my suit. So I'm currently running With 160 Shields - 404 armor which makes the total HP 546. Thats the setup I've ad the most success With, I noted my games yesterday and had a 5.9 KDR, without nothing but gun, nade and knife kills. And please do mind, this is a protosuit, be reasonable and have that in mind, it cost a lot and is not to be considered against a dragonfly BPO.... So am I now considered a scout With a setup like this? or am I still a "tryhard Assault bricktanked scout FOTM Wannabe"? How little HP must a scout suit have to be considered as being a "true scout"? Is there a limit and whats the number? Have a Proto Cal Scout Ishukone Cloak Nanohives/Uplinks 2-3 Complex Extenders or 1-2 Complex Precision Enhancer Duvolle AR/Toxin SMG SG/Toxin SMG Enhanced Armor Repper Complex Profile Dampener. I have about 400+ EHP and i manage to hunt down Other Scouts 95% of the time... It's a bit difficult to fight Heavies or Commandos... But if the element of surprise is right on time, then yes it's exciting... It's still a learning process, i don't consider myself a scout. Just learning how to be one... The armor repairer is a waste. Put a scan range extender there instead. If you survive going into armor, then just run to a supply depot and change suits.
Sum1ne Else WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 1068	Posted - 2014.03.28 14:52:00 - [18] - Quote KingBabar wrote: So ..am I still a "tryhard Assault bricktanked scout FOTM Wannabe"? How little HP must a scout suit have to be considered as being a "true scout"? I would say if you cannot get put down by one shot point blank range of a shotty then you are over tanking Level 1 Forum Warrior! Its a leopleuradon Charlie a magical leoplueradon, its gunna guide our way to candy mountain!
Louis Domi Pradox One Proficiency V. 147	Posted - 2014.03.28 14:52:00 - [19] - Quote Bendtner92 wrote: No matter what the "true Scouts" say, Scouts have to be nerfed. I would say likely by removing the extra high/low slot they received and the CPU/PG to go with that slot (and maybe slightly more as well), and maybe an increase to their base profile/precision. So you want to nerf scouts by removing a high/low slot, Less Cpu/PG, and an increase to base profile/precision? Goodness you must have had some scouts **** you because you are hell bent on killing them
Aisha Ctarl Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4248	Posted - 2014.03.28 14:58:00 - [20] - Quote M1tch Rapp wrote: I'll NEVER fault someone for setting up their suit in a way that is successful for them. Screw the haters A fan of Vince Flynn I see. I could list the ways how we Amarr are better than you, but your lesser mind wouldn't comprehend it.

Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1901	Posted - 2014.03.28 14:59:00 - [21] - Quote Louis Domi wrote: So you want to nerf scouts by removing a high/low slot, Less Cpu/PG, and an increase to base profile/precision? Goodness you must have had some scouts **** you because you are hell bent on killing them I run Scout myself. It's funny people must be hating certain classes just because they want a balanced game. Scout buffs in 1.8: Extra high or low slot. A lot more CPU/PG. Extra equipment slot. Cloak. 10 dB less profile. 5 dB less precision. 4 meters more scan range. Other stat changes I might have forgotten. That's just too many buffs and it's why Scouts are now OP. Winner of the EU Squad Cup & the closed beta Tester's Tournament. Go Go Power Rangers! R.I.P MAG.
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1252	Posted - 2014.03.28 15:07:00 - [22] - Quote Bendtner92 wrote: Louis Domi wrote: So you want to nerf scouts by removing a high/low slot, Less Cpu/PG, and an increase to base profile/precision? Goodness you must have had some scouts **** you because you are hell bent on killing them I run Scout myself. It's funny people must be hating certain classes just because they want a balanced game. Scout buffs in 1.8: Extra high or low slot. A lot more CPU/PG. Extra equipment slot. Cloak. 10 dB less profile. 5 dB less precision. 4 meters more scan range. Other stat changes I might have forgotten. That's just too many buffs and it's why Scouts are now OP. Scan range is basically the same with skulls maxed The buffs they got allow them to play the scout role The only reason they might seem to good is because mediums are to weak
M1tch Rapp Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 57	Posted - 2014.03.28 15:08:00 - [23] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: M1tch Rapp wrote: I'll NEVER fault someone for setting up their suit in a way that is successful for them. Screw the haters A fan of Vince Flynn I see. Yes I am, he makes Jason Bourne look like a *****
Yan Darn Science For Death 424	Posted - 2014.03.28 15:22:00 - [24] - Quote KingBabar wrote: What defines a "brick tanked" scout? Or an "assaultscout" if you like. I started out With a little over 700 HP but have steadily removed plates and added more scouty mods on my suit. So I'm currently running With 160 Shields - 404 armor which makes the total HP 546. Thats the setup I've ad the most success With, I noted my games yesterday and had a 5.9 KDR, without nothing but gun, nade and knife kills. And please do mind, this is a protosuit, be reasonable and have that in mind, it cost a lot and is not to be considered against a dragonfly BPO.... So am I now considered a scout With a setup like this? or am I still a "tryhard Assault bricktanked scout FOTM Wannabe"? How little HP must a scout suit have to be considered as being a "true scout"? Is there a limit and whats the number? A scout that a tryhard would choose to play over a brick tanked assault or slayer logi because of current weaknesses. A scout that will be dropped as soon as assaults become the best at assaulting. I was one of those who used AR+Scout when some people said it wasn't scouty. The point is I chose to use AR on a scout as opposed to say a logi. Of course if you are of the mindset that DUST is and should be all about gank/tank and KDR, the nuances are all irrelevant I'm sure... It's ok though, everyone knows you started brick tanking scouts before 1.8/before it was cool - like a whole 2 days before 1.8 dropped. The Ghost of Bravo
KingBabar The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback 2074	Posted - 2014.03.28 15:26:00 - [25] - Quote Yan Darn wrote: KingBabar wrote: What defines a "brick tanked" scout? Or an "assaultscout" if you like. I started out With a little over 700 HP but have steadily removed plates and added more scouty mods on my suit. So I'm currently running With 160 Shields - 404 armor which makes the total HP 546. Thats the setup I've ad the most success With, I noted my games yesterday and had a 5.9 KDR, without nothing but gun, nade and knife kills. And please do mind, this is a protosuit, be reasonable and have that in mind, it cost a lot and is not to be considered against a dragonfly BPO.... So am I now considered a scout With a setup like this? or am I still a "tryhard Assault bricktanked scout FOTM Wannabe"? How little HP must a scout suit have to be considered as being a "true scout"? Is there a limit and whats the number? A scout that a tryhard would choose to play over a brick tanked assault or slayer logi because of current weaknesses. A scout that will be dropped as soon as assaults become the best at assaulting. I was one of those who used AR+Scout when some people said it wasn't scouty. The point is I chose to use AR on a scout as opposed to say a logi. Of course if you are of the mindset that DUST is and should be all about gank/tank and KDR, the nuances are all irrelevant I'm sure... It's ok though, everyone knows you started brick tanking scouts before 1.8/before it was cool - like a whole 2 days before 1.8 dropped. Well doh, I just got 3 m bonus skillpoints.... I've tried lots of fittings before and after 1.8, the conclusion I've come to is: Speed is better than tank. Now I run with 322 HP with knives, 546 in general and I do have a 852 HP suit just in case, I haven't used that one yet. FU and FU Dust community, you're mostly a bunch of moronic carebear crybabies. Get good.
Everything Dies Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 614	Posted - 2014.03.28 15:27:00 - [26] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: The only reason they might seem to good is because mediums are to weak This. With the SP refund, I backed out of Gallente medium suits entirely and finished the Gallente scouts (went from lv.3 to 5) and, truth be told, there really isn't a noticeable difference between my new scout fittings and my old medium fittings...aside from the fact that I now have an extra equipment slot when making multi-purpose fittings. Now I have my default suit with two types of nanohives for making the initial push for objectives at the start of the game, my ninja cloak/RE suit that I use for node defense, an assault version with either two types of nanohives (one for ammo, one for healing) or nanohive/RE combo and lastly, a just-for-fun suit that has a repair tool thrown on. Given that light and heavy frames were buffed in this patch, I would expect mediums to receive a boost in the near future to bring back their relevance. "Trust and you'll be trusted," says the liar to the fool.
AAGMUNDR Reliable Overwatch Inc. 291	Posted - 2014.03.28 15:27:00 - [27] - Quote I have 190 total HP. I see all and yet I am never seen. I'm basically running around in a tissue diaper. My bones shatter with a stuff breeze. If you use any shield extenders or armor plates on a scout you are tanking it too much.
rpastry The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback 153	Posted - 2014.03.28 15:35:00 - [28] - Quote only minjas are true scouts, everything else is overtanked. [Removed ASCII Art - CCP Logibro]
Hansei Kaizen The Jackson Five 60	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:11:00 - [29] - Quote KingBabar wrote: What defines a "brick tanked" scout? Or an "assaultscout" if you like. I started out With a little over 700 HP but have steadily removed plates and added more scouty mods on my suit. So I'm currently running With 160 Shields - 404 armor which makes the total HP 546. Thats the setup I've ad the most success With, I noted my games yesterday and had a 5.9 KDR, without nothing but gun, nade and knife kills. And please do mind, this is a protosuit, be reasonable and have that in mind, it cost a lot and is not to be considered against a dragonfly BPO.... So am I now considered a scout With a setup like this? or am I still a "tryhard Assault bricktanked scout FOTM Wannabe"? How little HP must a scout suit have to be considered as being a "true scout"? Is there a limit and whats the number? Just fit what you like. Thats the core principle of the game. There are Types and Subtypes. Who cares if youre an "assault scout" or a "stealth scout". As long as it is fun?
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1978	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:19:00 - [30] - Quote Hansei Kaizen wrote: KingBabar wrote: What defines a "brick tanked" scout? Or an "assaultscout" if you like. I started out With a little over 700 HP but have steadily removed plates and added more scouty mods on my suit. So I'm currently running With 160 Shields - 404 armor which makes the total HP 546. Thats the setup I've ad the most success With, I noted my games yesterday and had a 5.9 KDR, without nothing but gun, nade and knife kills. And please do mind, this is a protosuit, be reasonable and have that in mind, it cost a lot and is not to be considered against a dragonfly BPO.... So am I now considered a scout With a setup like this? or am I still a "tryhard Assault bricktanked scout FOTM Wannabe"? How little HP must a scout suit have to be considered as being a "true scout"? Is there a limit and whats the number? Just fit what you like. Thats the core principle of the game. There are Types and Subtypes. Who cares if youre an "assault scout" or a "stealth scout". As long as it is fun? This. Who gives a **** about what the people in this forum say?! Drop it like its hat. I´m a fat scout. Do you even lift bro?



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