The novelty will wear off, also that's a pretty bad Scout it's super slow and has no ewar. Might kill you but you can rest assured your team (whom you should be running with) will obliterate him.

I agree with 1

Not with two......and here's why.....imaging you have just enough sp to proto out the sentinel suit and hmg and forge.....that's all you have

Now drop into a map with a lot of open terrain and you have a seriously screwed heavy.....he can either pray his enemies sit still long enough to get a hit with a forge or pray he can get in range with his hmg....there's no choice for medium range engagements....if there was a heavy weapon with this capability I would be all for it but as it stands no....and CCP has already said that this isn't likely to happen until other heavy weapons are introduced

THIS

A proto suit with maxed skills should be able to fit proto everything, this should be the basis for the CPU/PG of the proto frame. This should require the optimization skills too. All other tiers should force fitting sacrifices.

I'm just going to leave this here..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=n_LlH2c5dyA#t=76

I'm just going to leave this here..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=n_LlH2c5dyA#t=76

CCP please hold off on the reduction of Heavy EHP. Heavy EHP is not the problem with the heavy suit, it is supposed to be a meatshield and it is finally fulfilling this purpose.

Here are 2 things that are actually wrong with heavy suits that you should look at instead.

1. Heavy CPU/PG is too high. I can fit a full proto tank and a proto HMG on a standard Amarr Sentinel frame. I can almost fit full proto in every slot on an advanced Amarr Sentinel frame (adv sidearm). I have invested nothing in my weapons fitting optimization skills to do this. No other suit has this amount of fitting. I really don't have to make any hard choices when it comes to fitting a Setinel suit. In fact I have so much CPU/PG left over on my proto Amarr Sentinel I feel like I'm being cheated.

Reduce the CPU/PG of these suits so that only the proto sentinel frame can fit all proto gear. The commando is in a much better place, I really have to think about whether I want to fit tank or gank on those suits as I can't do both.

2. Lock the heavy weapon slot to heavy weapons. Yes, I know there are only 2 right now. The commando suit allows for a heavy frame to fit light weapons, the sentinel no longer needs to provide this option.

With 600+HP scouts and 800+HP Assaults and Logis running around in the game a reduction of heavy suit EHP makes no sense. Particularly considering most of the playerbase seems to be pretty happy with them as they are now.

Yes, because a scout that's as tough as my assault and faster than me is definitely a bad scout.

Limiting the heavy slot to heavy weapons is short-sighted. If rail rifle heavies really are a problem, perhaps we should consider what will happen when heavies get longer-range anti-personnel heavy weapons. Maybe we should be considering balance and functionality with a longer view in mind that considers what's coming down the road, instead of jumping at short-term solutions that will just cause more grief down the line. You would also have to be okay with locking light weapon slots to light weapons only, or justify allowing sidearms in light weapon slots but not light weapons in heavy weapon slots.

I agree with both of these points. As a matter of fact, I was discussing this earlier with some friends. Instead of nerfing EHP (Heavies are SUPPOSED to be walking meat walls!) I brought up maybe a slight damage nerf to the HMG. My friends then said "well then expect to see more heavies using Rail Rifles and AR's". Which made me think, just make the H slot restricted to ONLY heavy weapons.

THEN I began to think about that. What if anything lighter than a heavy weapon in the H slot got dramatically reduced accuracy? Or, just make it H only, no matter how illogical that may be, it seems more .

Then if you wanna play with light weapons, play a commando :) not a far stretch, only a few thousand SP to get into a basic commando.

I like it. But the HMG still absolutely destroys everything. Best weapon + most EHP = massively powerful.

but... shotguns.. :(

The HMG does not need to be nerfed at all, it could do with a bit on increase in its range. But one thing CCP could do is add a sort of charge up time to the HMG, holding down the fire button will make the barrel rotate for a second and after that it starts to fire. Maybe though, I would only like that though if they increased the range

Actually I was looking at this from a longer perspective. Trying to balance the EHP of Sentinels without locking the heavy weapon slot becomes very difficult. You have to consider all of the different weapon types and ranges instead of a small number of heavy weapons. If the slot is locked, then future heavy weapons introduce a small number of variables in the Tank/Gank equation of heavies.

Right now there are no hard choices. If I want to have 1700HP and a proto medium range weapon (literally ANY proto rifle), I can do that on an advanced Amarr sentinel AND most of those rifles are good in CQC too. I do have to make sacrifices in mobility, hit box and EWAR, but those seem to be far less significant than pure HP and damage output over range.

It might even be a good idea to just introduce a fitting penalty for light weapons in the heavy slot rather than lock it completely. Say the suit isn't optimized for that type of weapon and incurs a 20-40% fitting cost increase. That way you create a decision point that might make assault or commando a more attractive option for light weapon usage.

use an assualt hmg =)

CCP please hold off on the reduction of Heavy EHP. Heavy EHP is not the problem with the heavy suit, it is supposed to be a meatshield and it is finally fulfilling this purpose.

Here are 2 things that are actually wrong with heavy suits that you should look at instead.

1. Heavy CPU/PG is too high. I can fit a full proto tank and a proto HMG on a standard Amarr Sentinel frame. I can almost fit full proto in every slot on an advanced Amarr Sentinel frame (adv sidearm). I have invested nothing in my weapons fitting optimization skills to do this. No other suit has this amount of fitting. I really don't have to make any hard choices when it comes to fitting a Setinel suit. In fact I have so much CPU/PG left over on my proto Amarr Sentinel I feel like I'm being cheated.

Reduce the CPU/PG of these suits so that only the proto sentinel frame can fit all proto gear. The commando is in a much better place, I really have to think about whether I want to fit tank or gank on those suits as I can't do both.

2. Lock the heavy weapon slot to heavy weapons. Yes, I know there are only 2 right now. The commando suit allows for a heavy frame to fit light weapons, the sentinel no longer needs to provide this option.

With 600+HP scouts and 800+HP Assaults and Logis running around in the game a reduction of heavy suit EHP makes no sense. Particularly considering most of the playerbase seems to be pretty happy with them as they are now.

Heavys dont need a nerf. They are allready punished enough by scouts dancing around them with shotguns. And 2-3 shotgun hits and the heavy is dead so what is the problem here? That hes actually now capable to defend himself?

I don't agree, its a suit designed to hold a heavy weapon. No other suit can fit a heavy weapon, lock it to heavy weapons only. If you really want to run a shotgun on a heavy a Galente Commando will fit it and give you a bonus to reload and damage.

The HMG does not need to be nerfed at all, it could do with a bit on increase in its range. But one thing CCP could do is add a sort of charge up time to the HMG, holding down the fire button will make the barrel rotate for a second and after that it starts to fire. Maybe though, I would only like that though if they increased the range

If you read the description of the HMG you would know why your suggestion is stupid. It's like you guys completely ignore the fact this isn't just an FPS but a FPS with a deep back story and lore.

I'm just going to leave this here..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=n_LlH2c5dyA#t=76

Look at proto Amarr assualt proto mods (all) 3x dmg mods 3 plates pro hive and pro scrambler basic sub not all but damn close