CCP please hold off on the reduction of Heavy EHP. Heavy EHP is not the problem with the heavy suit, it is supposed to be a meatshield and it is finally fulfilling this purpose.

Here are 2 things that are actually wrong with heavy suits that you should look at instead.

1. Heavy CPU/PG is too high. I can fit a full proto tank and a proto HMG on a standard Amarr Sentinel frame. I can almost fit full proto in every slot on an advanced Amarr Sentinel frame (adv sidearm). I have invested nothing in my weapons fitting optimization skills to do this. No other suit has this amount of fitting. I really don't have to make any hard choices when it comes to fitting a Setinel suit. In fact I have so much CPU/PG left over on my proto Amarr Sentinel I feel like I'm being cheated.

Reduce the CPU/PG of these suits so that only the proto sentinel frame can fit all proto gear. The commando is in a much better place, I really have to think about whether I want to fit tank or gank on those suits as I can't do both.

2. Lock the heavy weapon slot to heavy weapons. Yes, I know there are only 2 right now. The commando suit allows for a heavy frame to fit light weapons, the sentinel no longer needs to provide this option.

With 600+HP scouts and 800+HP Assaults and Logis running around in the game a reduction of heavy suit EHP makes no sense. Particularly considering most of the playerbase seems to be pretty happy with them as they are now.

Heavy weapons and shotguns only. Don't allow any rifles.

CCP please hold off on the reduction of Heavy EHP. Heavy EHP is not the problem with the heavy suit, it is supposed to be a meatshield and it is finally fulfilling this purpose.

Here are 2 things that are actually wrong with heavy suits that you should look at instead.

1. Heavy CPU/PG is too high. I can fit a full proto tank and a proto HMG on a standard Amarr Sentinel frame. I can almost fit full proto in every slot on an advanced Amarr Sentinel frame (adv sidearm). I have invested nothing in my weapons fitting optimization skills to do this. No other suit has this amount of fitting. I really don't have to make any hard choices when it comes to fitting a Setinel suit. In fact I have so much CPU/PG left over on my proto Amarr Sentinel I feel like I'm being cheated.

Reduce the CPU/PG of these suits so that only the proto sentinel frame can fit all proto gear. The commando is in a much better place, I really have to think about whether I want to fit tank or gank on those suits as I can't do both.

2. Lock the heavy weapon slot to heavy weapons. Yes, I know there are only 2 right now. The commando suit allows for a heavy frame to fit light weapons, the sentinel no longer needs to provide this option.

With 600+HP scouts and 800+HP Assaults and Logis running around in the game a reduction of heavy suit EHP makes no sense. Particularly considering most of the playerbase seems to be pretty happy with them as they are now.

CCP please hold off on the reduction of Heavy EHP. Heavy EHP is not the problem with the heavy suit, it is supposed to be a meatshield and it is finally fulfilling this purpose.

Here are 2 things that are actually wrong with heavy suits that you should look at instead.

1. Heavy CPU/PG is too high. I can fit a full proto tank and a proto HMG on a standard Amarr Sentinel frame. I can almost fit full proto in every slot on an advanced Amarr Sentinel frame (adv sidearm). I have invested nothing in my weapons fitting optimization skills to do this. No other suit has this amount of fitting. I really don't have to make any hard choices when it comes to fitting a Setinel suit. In fact I have so much CPU/PG left over on my proto Amarr Sentinel I feel like I'm being cheated.

Reduce the CPU/PG of these suits so that only the proto sentinel frame can fit all proto gear. The commando is in a much better place, I really have to think about whether I want to fit tank or gank on those suits as I can't do both.

2. Lock the heavy weapon slot to heavy weapons. Yes, I know there are only 2 right now. The commando suit allows for a heavy frame to fit light weapons, the sentinel no longer needs to provide this option.

With 600+HP scouts and 800+HP Assaults and Logis running around in the game a reduction of heavy suit EHP makes no sense. Particularly considering most of the playerbase seems to be pretty happy with them as they are now.

I'm just going to leave this here..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=n_LlH2c5dyA#t=76

So a scout should be able to fit HMG then, right?

what! fine the rest of the suits can only have weapons and modules tied to their tier suit too. plus have you seen the gallente heavy cpu/pg? it sucks

A gallante scout cam have over 800 ehp and CCP is worried about the heavy? Really? Scout are OP now with all that ehp and clocking.

CCP please hold off on the reduction of Heavy EHP. Heavy EHP is not the problem with the heavy suit, it is supposed to be a meatshield and it is finally fulfilling this purpose.

Here are 2 things that are actually wrong with heavy suits that you should look at instead.

1. Heavy CPU/PG is too high. I can fit a full proto tank and a proto HMG on a standard Amarr Sentinel frame. I can almost fit full proto in every slot on an advanced Amarr Sentinel frame (adv sidearm). I have invested nothing in my weapons fitting optimization skills to do this. No other suit has this amount of fitting. I really don't have to make any hard choices when it comes to fitting a Setinel suit. In fact I have so much CPU/PG left over on my proto Amarr Sentinel I feel like I'm being cheated.

Reduce the CPU/PG of these suits so that only the proto sentinel frame can fit all proto gear. The commando is in a much better place, I really have to think about whether I want to fit tank or gank on those suits as I can't do both.

2. Lock the heavy weapon slot to heavy weapons. Yes, I know there are only 2 right now. The commando suit allows for a heavy frame to fit light weapons, the sentinel no longer needs to provide this option.

With 600+HP scouts and 800+HP Assaults and Logis running around in the game a reduction of heavy suit EHP makes no sense. Particularly considering most of the playerbase seems to be pretty happy with them as they are now.

The only thing I can disagree with is the following line:

"Reduce the CPU/PG of these suits so that only the proto sentinel frame can fit all proto gear."

The CPU should be even less than that. This option does not completely solve the problem of: "I do not have to make hard choices in my fittings". What it does it change the situation from "All heavies have easy fittings" to "Proto heavies have easy fittings". Since Proto is the only competitive option for any class, you haven't solve the problem fully. Moreover, no suit can fill all of its slots with all prototype gear, even at the prototype level. Heavies should not be the exception to this rule. They too should have to choose between A complex damage mod and a proto plate.

TL:DR - If sentinels get a CPU/PG reduction (with I now agree with), it should prevent any tier from filling all of its slots with proto mods.

Turn speed.

A proto suit with maxed skills should be able to fit proto everything, this should be the basis for the CPU/PG of the proto frame. This should require the optimization skills too. All other tiers should force fitting sacrifices.

I'm just going to leave this here..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=n_LlH2c5dyA#t=76

I agree with 1

Not with two......and here's why.....imaging you have just enough sp to proto out the sentinel suit and hmg and forge.....that's all you have

Now drop into a map with a lot of open terrain and you have a seriously screwed heavy.....he can either pray his enemies sit still long enough to get a hit with a forge or pray he can get in range with his hmg....there's no choice for medium range engagements....if there was a heavy weapon with this capability I would be all for it but as it stands no....and CCP has already said that this isn't likely to happen until other heavy weapons are introduced

So you people have had your answer deal with it

Logical.
+1 to you Sir.

Turn speed.

Turn speed.

I agree with 1

Not with two......and here's why.....imaging you have just enough sp to proto out the sentinel suit and hmg and forge.....that's all you have

Now drop into a map with a lot of open terrain and you have a seriously screwed heavy.....he can either pray his enemies sit still long enough to get a hit with a forge or pray he can get in range with his hmg....there's no choice for medium range engagements....if there was a heavy weapon with this capability I would be all for it but as it stands no....and CCP has already said that this isn't likely to happen until other heavy weapons are introduced

So you people have had your answer deal with it

I agree with 1

Not with two......and here's why.....imaging you have just enough sp to proto out the sentinel suit and hmg and forge.....that's all you have

Now drop into a map with a lot of open terrain and you have a seriously screwed heavy.....he can either pray his enemies sit still long enough to get a hit with a forge or pray he can get in range with his hmg....there's no choice for medium range engagements.