Cause dem permahardeners

Blasted by countless Madrugars, and decided to Counter-tank, like the person above.

I would usually run bomber dropsuits that were obliterated the moment the tanker made a fortunate 360 spin. Absolute misery, especially with RR and CR's on my tail.

When I fitted and deployed my first MLT tank, I didn't immediately begin winning, and I sure as hell didn't kill any infantry, but I started surviving more often, in the safety of the hull. I ran Somas first, but Railguns would get me. Then I ran Sicas, and did fine, with the occasional Gunnlogi besting me. I ran alongside other tankers for a maximized counter-attack, and the enemy started to fear us.

Then my fellow tankers began turning on their principles, and hunting infantry of the intimidated red team. I didn't partake in the hunt much, but I was disgusted. Clearly the power of the tank has a corrupting influence.

yep, I only pull out my tanks to kill other tanks, but between waves of tank kills, I kill red dots as well, I tend to do it more if i see they have proto suits, but meh.

long story short even the best of us pure AV tankers can't avoid killing red berries when you are behind the wheels of a tank.

also....if I ever steal a blaster tank I tend to drive that thing for everything that it's worth farming everyone.....it's the unwritten rule of dust, if you taketh a tank from thy red berry, you must troll with thy red berries tank.

today I actually stole two tanks with one bullet was the best day ever =D.

thats a small issue, one that can be fixed by only allowing one module at a time to be active.

I don't think you understand permahardeners. If you fit three Complex Shield Hardeners with all Shield Upgrades to 5, when one mod turns off, you just turn on the next one, and you will be 60% hardened for 100% of the time.

Complex Shield Hardener with full skill (active time): 30 seconds
Complex Shield Hardener with full skill (recharge time): 45 seconds

So, if you activate one hardener, it will be active for 30 seconds, and then will recharge for 45 seconds. During those 45 seconds, you would activate one hardener, taking up 30 seconds and leaving just 15 seconds for the first hardener to recharge, which is half the active time for the last hardener. So when the last hardener runs out, the first Hardener is back online, and it just works in a circle.

And so finally comes the realization by the players. You've been running solo AV. It's not that AV Sucks, it's that you don't have a wingman. Tanks are crap without a wingman most of the time, and if a group of three focuses on them, they go down real easy. Take a look at the Wiykromi [Dre] Preach Gun, and you'll decimate every vehicle that ever comes your way, as long as both you and your bud lock on to the same guy with that thing.

I've known this all along. It was the same back when it was only about half a year after uprising came out. LAV's and tanks were annoying then, but the problem then when someone had difficulty is the same now. It's that your friendly neighborhood don't run them. Back in the hayday, My squad of SBS/OmniEndeavors (The latter of which is dead now) ran as a group, and I used to not know anything about Vehicles and destroying them, but I was a noob. They taught me the way of swarm launchers and AV Grenades, as well as the forge gun. I started using them, and hell, as long as somebody else was helpin me, I never had the issue again of having to deal with them all alone and getting whooped again.

Maybe instead of complaining about AV, you should teach your friendly neighborhood blueberries to use, at the very least, a basic AV grenade, or something better than a MLT/Basic Swarm launcher. Teach them not only to use it, but when to use it. Then maybe, just maybe, we wouldn't be complaining about something that actually isn't as weak as we all think.

PS as far as swarms go, they need bettter range, that's all. AV nades are fine. FG is fine as well.

But srsly. Teach your blueberries to run something other than a rifle and a locus grenade, and We'll all live better lives :)

(Subbed to this topic because somebody finally realized what the REAL Problem is.)