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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
1102
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Posted - 2014.03.21 12:39:00 -
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MarasdF Loron wrote:Dexter307 wrote: So REs and hiding Fun Meanwhile heavies in lavs go 40-0
This is why I hate arguing with CoD players, go back to CoD if Dust is too much for you to handle. So your saying it's ok to allow things such as heavies in LAVs? Mabey YOUR the one who needs to go back to cod. That's where the scrubs live, |
Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
1102
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Posted - 2014.03.21 12:40:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Actually that's an old tactic. Heavy suits are really not that menacing if you know how to fight them. Two keypoints: distance and constant movement. Those two things are kryptonite to a heavy.
And no, because anybody can drive a car. Just accept the challenge and find your own way of dealing with it. There is a way... Heavy in a LAV has no weakness. Only a tank can defeat them So you never shot a heavy out of a LAV with a headshot? Heavies don't get close enough to my shotgun |
The Headless Horseman
Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire
71
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Posted - 2014.03.21 13:16:00 -
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LMAO. If you clowns would stop hiding I would'nt have to call in a ship to hunt you down. If I can't fly anymore, I would just pay someone to drive/fly me around. Lots of unemployed mercs. I run AV every match. Vehicles do not live long with my gaston forge on the job.
Signed, Sealed, Delivered
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Dauth Jenkins
Ultramarine Corp
271
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Posted - 2014.03.21 13:19:00 -
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2 words. AV Grenades. And if that doesn't work, 2 more. Remote explosives
Sees prototompers...
Sees blueberries start to snipe...
Pulls out commando suit with laser rifle and swarm launcher...
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zibathy numbertwo
Nox Aeterna Security
525
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Posted - 2014.03.21 13:21:00 -
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MarasdF Loron wrote: Heavy in an LAV has multiple weaknesses, find them and exploit them.
Like being less likely to be shot out of the vehicle? Or maybe you are unaware that small arms fire is ineffectual to an LAV and that Heavies are also slow? Maybe you don't understand the concept of removing weaknesses through complementing game mechanics? Something that exists in every game.
Maybe you're just a moron and you just gave a copout without any real evidence or thought? I think that's the case.
Don't speak again on MY forum, stupid.
AR
Dmg: 34,
RoF: 750 RPM,
DPS: 425,
RR
Dmg: 55,
RoF: 461 RPM,
DPS: 422,
+ double the range.
Balanced.
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Dauth Jenkins
Ultramarine Corp
271
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Posted - 2014.03.21 13:22:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:MarasdF Loron wrote:Dexter307 wrote: So REs and hiding Fun Meanwhile heavies in lavs go 40-0
This is why I hate arguing with CoD players, go back to CoD if Dust is too much for you to handle. So your saying it's ok to allow things such as heavies in LAVs? Mabey YOUR the one who needs to go back to cod. That's where the scrubs live,
Lolwut? Give me a good reason why heavies shouldn't drive LAVs. Not a QQ "he jumped out and killed me" reason, but a good reason that fixes what you believe to be a gamebreaking problem.
Sees prototompers...
Sees blueberries start to snipe...
Pulls out commando suit with laser rifle and swarm launcher...
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Jacques Cayton II
Providence Guard Templis CALSF
696
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Posted - 2014.03.21 13:25:00 -
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Shavan D wrote:Why is it that heavy suits have access to weapons the other suits don't, can equip weapons the other suits can, have more armor, and just all around be an annoyance to fight against. Next you see a jeep come screaming out of no where trying to run you over, you doge but cant get away, and then a damn heavy suit pops out solo and guns you down with a shain gun. How is that fair. Which is why heavies shouldn't be allowed to drive or pilot. As long as they can use weapons the other suits can't then they shouldn't be allowed to use even bigger guns. Its only fair.
And for anyone who may say "no" give me one good reason why not. They can still ride in vehicals I just think they shouldn't be driving tanks or other vehicals around. QQ but let me ask if your suit could carry an hmg but run at a pace of 6m would you be happy and have it kick really bad since your suit is lightweight not built to carry the weight. And in turn heavies get equipment but it is half as good. Then would you be happy
We fight for the future of the State not our
personal goals
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Jacques Cayton II
Providence Guard Templis CALSF
696
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Posted - 2014.03.21 13:28:00 -
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Dauth Jenkins wrote:Dexter307 wrote:MarasdF Loron wrote:Dexter307 wrote: So REs and hiding Fun Meanwhile heavies in lavs go 40-0
This is why I hate arguing with CoD players, go back to CoD if Dust is too much for you to handle. So your saying it's ok to allow things such as heavies in LAVs? Mabey YOUR the one who needs to go back to cod. That's where the scrubs live, Lolwut? Give me a good reason why heavies shouldn't drive LAVs. Not a QQ "he jumped out and killed me" reason, but a good reason that fixes what you believe to be a gamebreaking problem. One reason if a heavy can't drive then that breaks the game. It's unfair to keep a heavy from vehicles. The heavy suit is slow and if your skilled you wouldn't be running in the road to begin with
We fight for the future of the State not our
personal goals
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Jastad
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
641
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Posted - 2014.03.21 13:38:00 -
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As a Heavy player we really NEED to get rid of this ****** tattic. Add animation, buff DMG Av granade on LAVS, or the worst solution, Make heavy suit unable to drive ANY vehicles.
Not only because is a crutch. we must do this for our SAKE. Guys we are talking about LIFE or DEATH here. Finally CCP is giving some love to us fat-guys. But the road is harsh, if people use Crutch like this CCP for sure will bring out the nerf-hammer... And we all know what happen when CCP pull out that damn thing.
Amarr SCR user.
Believe in the FORGE, young padawans
C'èSoloDoloreSuCharlie
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
3216
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Posted - 2014.03.21 13:41:00 -
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I'll trade driving ability for an equipment slot. Or, should I have my Logi drive so that I can be free to not worry about losing my LAV should something go wrong?
Your choice.
I GÖú Kittens.
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
1102
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Posted - 2014.03.21 13:46:00 -
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Dauth Jenkins wrote:Dexter307 wrote:MarasdF Loron wrote:Dexter307 wrote: So REs and hiding Fun Meanwhile heavies in lavs go 40-0
This is why I hate arguing with CoD players, go back to CoD if Dust is too much for you to handle. So your saying it's ok to allow things such as heavies in LAVs? Mabey YOUR the one who needs to go back to cod. That's where the scrubs live, Lolwut? Give me a good reason why heavies shouldn't drive LAVs. Not a QQ "he jumped out and killed me" reason, but a good reason that fixes what you believe to be a gamebreaking problem. Because heavies in lav are more powerful than any other infantry. Ive run heavy in lavs and going 30-0 is the norm. Bu I suppose you don't want your crutch taken away |
Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
1102
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Posted - 2014.03.21 13:56:00 -
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Jack Boost wrote:So you play your game shooting to infantry... pew pew. Now you saw heavy that kill you. No way you think. You post some word here. CCP remove heavys ingame. Now you again play your game shooting to infantry... pew pew... You spoted a TANK that kill you.. No way you think. You post some word here. CCP remove tanks ingame. Now you again play your game shooting to infantry... pew pew... and you saw dropship.. that kill you... now way to repeat this again....
1. If you specialise only to kill infantry - you have bear with this that vehicles (heavy in vehicle?) kill you. Everyone die here. If you/your squad/your team dont kill once solo heavy in lav (40-0 - remeber) then you have a lot to learn and change. 2. Play as heavy - now tell me how you supposted to catch 'dynamic' battle firld? (yes you have always option - wait in one place - good for ambush only) 3. Play as heavy - and use your heavy weapon. Now tell me how good you are vs infantry. How much you EHP and speed, no eq, big frame etc (toons of cons) helps. 4. Now back to your game ... and play
Tip - use AV grenades or flux So your saying no matter how OP something is it's ok? Wow |
Marc Rime
312
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Posted - 2014.03.21 14:06:00 -
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This thread is funny. Driving a death taxi is also funny.
It is, however, silly when players magically pop in and out of vehicles. That should be changed. For all suit types. |
Shadow Archeus
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
334
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Posted - 2014.03.21 14:25:00 -
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I'm a heavy that has never done this.....but its a valid tactic....
Two ways to fix it
1 make lavs weaker or make it easier to hit the driver
2 add enter/exit/seat swap animations that will make all characters vounerable for a second or two
Real heavies use lasers
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Jack Boost
Zarena Family
336
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Posted - 2014.03.21 14:41:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote: So your saying no matter how OP something is it's ok? Wow
There is more OP things. Murder taxi is one (still valid), but less painfull then for example auto-aim rail from HAV when you try AV or power of CR/RR with stacked dmg mods.
Note: i'm heavy with light weapon - for almost 1 and 1/2 year without ANY bonuses for dropsuit... and ppl still complain.
OP is very young duster (compared). And he discover one thing that is painful for him. This not meant that it is OP, it is hars but valid. What he do when vehicles be more common? (as they dont now ) |
Jake Diesel
BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives
118
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Posted - 2014.03.21 14:56:00 -
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Shavan D wrote:Why is it that heavy suits have access to weapons the other suits don't, can equip weapons the other suits can, have more armor, and just all around be an annoyance to fight against. Next you see a jeep come screaming out of no where trying to run you over, you doge but cant get away, and then a damn heavy suit pops out solo and guns you down with a shain gun. How is that fair. Which is why heavies shouldn't be allowed to drive or pilot. As long as they can use weapons the other suits can't then they shouldn't be allowed to use even bigger guns. Its only fair.
And for anyone who may say "no" give me one good reason why not. They can still ride in vehicals I just think they shouldn't be driving tanks or other vehicals around.
Why? Simple. They are the slowest, heaviest, fattest dropsuits around. You can't traverse terrain like alle the other suits. You're practically walking just to cross the road. Can't jump over obstacles that are 1 foot tall. That's 12 inches by the way. And the only method of getting from point A to point B fast is to call in your own ride or hitch a ride with someone else.
Seriously, before you complain, try running a heavy suit for a month straight and see what we all heavies deal with.
And no, LAV's can't be called in anywhere. That is only for open ground or large area topped buildings. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
12374
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Posted - 2014.03.21 15:00:00 -
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We need enter / exit animations for vehicles.
The smaller the suit, the quicker you get in / get out.
Problem solved.
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
1102
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Posted - 2014.03.21 15:11:00 -
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Jack Boost wrote:Dexter307 wrote: So your saying no matter how OP something is it's ok? Wow
There is more OP things. Murder taxi is one (still valid), but less painfull then for example auto-aim rail from HAV when you try AV or power of CR/RR with stacked dmg mods. Note: i'm heavy with light weapon - for almost 1 and 1/2 year without ANY bonuses for dropsuit... and ppl still complain. OP is very young duster (compared). And he discover one thing that is painful for him. This not meant that it is OP, it is hars but valid. What he do when vehicles be more common? (as they dont now ) Vehicles are already spammed. And rails and damage stacking are going to be fixed. It's so painfully obvious solo lav heavys are a problem We need animation for entering and exiting vehicles. I'd also like to see not letting heavys drive vehicles but allowing them to get in someone else's vehicle. |
Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
1102
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Posted - 2014.03.21 15:12:00 -
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Jake Diesel wrote:Shavan D wrote:Why is it that heavy suits have access to weapons the other suits don't, can equip weapons the other suits can, have more armor, and just all around be an annoyance to fight against. Next you see a jeep come screaming out of no where trying to run you over, you doge but cant get away, and then a damn heavy suit pops out solo and guns you down with a shain gun. How is that fair. Which is why heavies shouldn't be allowed to drive or pilot. As long as they can use weapons the other suits can't then they shouldn't be allowed to use even bigger guns. Its only fair.
And for anyone who may say "no" give me one good reason why not. They can still ride in vehicals I just think they shouldn't be driving tanks or other vehicals around. Why? Simple. They are the slowest, heaviest, fattest dropsuits around. You can't traverse terrain like alle the other suits. You're practically walking just to cross the road. Can't jump over obstacles that are 1 foot tall. That's 12 inches by the way. And the only method of getting from point A to point B fast is to call in your own ride or hitch a ride with someone else. Seriously, before you complain, try running a heavy suit for a month straight and see what we all heavies deal with. And no, LAV's can't be called in anywhere. That is only for open ground or large area topped buildings. I've seen heavies refusing to leave their lav, they even drive around IN buildings. |
boba's fetta
Dead Man's Game
394
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Posted - 2014.03.21 15:17:00 -
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Shavan D wrote:Why is it that heavy suits have access to weapons the other suits don't, can equip weapons the other suits can, have more armor, and just all around be an annoyance to fight against. Next you see a jeep come screaming out of no where trying to run you over, you doge but cant get away, and then a damn heavy suit pops out solo and guns you down with a shain gun. How is that fair. Which is why heavies shouldn't be allowed to drive or pilot. As long as they can use weapons the other suits can't then they shouldn't be allowed to use even bigger guns. Its only fair.
And for anyone who may say "no" give me one good reason why not. They can still ride in vehicals I just think they shouldn't be driving tanks or other vehicals around.
and you shouldnt be allowed to post.
i want proxie chat so i can run around in the gall heavy saying GET IN MAH BELLY. nah just kidding trade window please=)
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pseudosnipre
590
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Posted - 2014.03.21 15:23:00 -
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Marc Rime wrote:This thread is funny. Driving a death taxi is also funny.
It is, however, silly when players magically pop in and out of vehicles. That should be changed. For all suit types. New vehicle equipment idea: http://www.brooke-ocean.com/images/6332907.jpg
Today is the sort of day where the sun only comes up to humiliate you.
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
1102
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Posted - 2014.03.21 15:29:00 -
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boba's fetta wrote:Shavan D wrote:Why is it that heavy suits have access to weapons the other suits don't, can equip weapons the other suits can, have more armor, and just all around be an annoyance to fight against. Next you see a jeep come screaming out of no where trying to run you over, you doge but cant get away, and then a damn heavy suit pops out solo and guns you down with a shain gun. How is that fair. Which is why heavies shouldn't be allowed to drive or pilot. As long as they can use weapons the other suits can't then they shouldn't be allowed to use even bigger guns. Its only fair.
And for anyone who may say "no" give me one good reason why not. They can still ride in vehicals I just think they shouldn't be driving tanks or other vehicals around. and you shouldnt be allowed to post. Crutch supporter |
Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
2238
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Posted - 2014.03.21 17:23:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:Jake Diesel wrote:Shavan D wrote:Why is it that heavy suits have access to weapons the other suits don't, can equip weapons the other suits can, have more armor, and just all around be an annoyance to fight against. Next you see a jeep come screaming out of no where trying to run you over, you doge but cant get away, and then a damn heavy suit pops out solo and guns you down with a shain gun. How is that fair. Which is why heavies shouldn't be allowed to drive or pilot. As long as they can use weapons the other suits can't then they shouldn't be allowed to use even bigger guns. Its only fair.
And for anyone who may say "no" give me one good reason why not. They can still ride in vehicals I just think they shouldn't be driving tanks or other vehicals around. Why? Simple. They are the slowest, heaviest, fattest dropsuits around. You can't traverse terrain like alle the other suits. You're practically walking just to cross the road. Can't jump over obstacles that are 1 foot tall. That's 12 inches by the way. And the only method of getting from point A to point B fast is to call in your own ride or hitch a ride with someone else. Seriously, before you complain, try running a heavy suit for a month straight and see what we all heavies deal with. And no, LAV's can't be called in anywhere. That is only for open ground or large area topped buildings. I've seen heavies refusing to leave their lav, they even drive around IN buildings.
This is because it's fun.
I like the QQ mails it gives me.
I do it in whatever suit I happen to be using. For example, my Amarr Assault.
ak.0 4 LYFE
Large Missile Turrets: the real unicorns of DUST.
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
1102
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Posted - 2014.03.21 17:31:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Jake Diesel wrote:Shavan D wrote:Why is it that heavy suits have access to weapons the other suits don't, can equip weapons the other suits can, have more armor, and just all around be an annoyance to fight against. Next you see a jeep come screaming out of no where trying to run you over, you doge but cant get away, and then a damn heavy suit pops out solo and guns you down with a shain gun. How is that fair. Which is why heavies shouldn't be allowed to drive or pilot. As long as they can use weapons the other suits can't then they shouldn't be allowed to use even bigger guns. Its only fair.
And for anyone who may say "no" give me one good reason why not. They can still ride in vehicals I just think they shouldn't be driving tanks or other vehicals around. Why? Simple. They are the slowest, heaviest, fattest dropsuits around. You can't traverse terrain like alle the other suits. You're practically walking just to cross the road. Can't jump over obstacles that are 1 foot tall. That's 12 inches by the way. And the only method of getting from point A to point B fast is to call in your own ride or hitch a ride with someone else. Seriously, before you complain, try running a heavy suit for a month straight and see what we all heavies deal with. And no, LAV's can't be called in anywhere. That is only for open ground or large area topped buildings. I've seen heavies refusing to leave their lav, they even drive around IN buildings. This is because it's fun. I like the QQ mails it gives me. I do it in whatever suit I happen to be using. For example, my Amarr Assault. No, heavies do It because it's more effective than actually walking. I was scouting a lone build and I see a heavy driving around inside the building. It was one of the stupidest things and biggest immersion breaker I've ever seen. If you don't see any problems with this than you have a problem. If this is allowed then my scout should get 2x speed and 2000 hp to be fair
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Onesimus Tarsus
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
1682
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Posted - 2014.03.21 17:32:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Jake Diesel wrote:Shavan D wrote:Why is it that heavy suits have access to weapons the other suits don't, can equip weapons the other suits can, have more armor, and just all around be an annoyance to fight against. Next you see a jeep come screaming out of no where trying to run you over, you doge but cant get away, and then a damn heavy suit pops out solo and guns you down with a shain gun. How is that fair. Which is why heavies shouldn't be allowed to drive or pilot. As long as they can use weapons the other suits can't then they shouldn't be allowed to use even bigger guns. Its only fair.
And for anyone who may say "no" give me one good reason why not. They can still ride in vehicals I just think they shouldn't be driving tanks or other vehicals around. Why? Simple. They are the slowest, heaviest, fattest dropsuits around. You can't traverse terrain like alle the other suits. You're practically walking just to cross the road. Can't jump over obstacles that are 1 foot tall. That's 12 inches by the way. And the only method of getting from point A to point B fast is to call in your own ride or hitch a ride with someone else. Seriously, before you complain, try running a heavy suit for a month straight and see what we all heavies deal with. And no, LAV's can't be called in anywhere. That is only for open ground or large area topped buildings. I've seen heavies refusing to leave their lav, they even drive around IN buildings. This is because it's fun. I like the QQ mails it gives me. I do it in whatever suit I happen to be using. For example, my Amarr Assault. No, heavies do It because it's more effective than actually walking. I was scouting a lone build and I see a heavy driving around inside the building. It was one of the stupidest things and biggest immersion breaker I've ever seen. If you don't see any problems with this than you have a problem. If this is allowed then my scout should get 2x speed and 2000 hp to be fair
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Shavan D
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
28
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Posted - 2014.03.21 17:58:00 -
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I said yesterday that i wasn't clear. Heaveies with Heavy weapons shouldn't be able to drive, Commandos and Sentals with light weapons I think are fine.
Having said that wow, those of u say that i'm complaining no god damn well i make a vaild point and for people saying such and such can't do what ever, wow. Double standared. Haveys can only use heavey weapons but the other suints cant even try, and dont give me that crap about not being able to hold carry them. I'm i'm in a light suint i should atleast have the fing option to carry a forge gun or what ever. Hell the other suits weren't even what I was talking about when i started this but you all wanted to keep crap up. |
Roy Ventus
Axis of Chaos
1440
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Posted - 2014.03.21 18:02:00 -
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For the heavies saying, "IT HAS A WEAKNESS ZOMG"
Please enlighten people, including myself, who don't know. If we knew of the weakness we wouldn't QQ much when it happens and actually try to fight.
No, "Get Guud" answers either. What's the point of saying it has a weakness and telling people to stop QQing if you're not going to help us see why it has weaknesses?
Granted, it's not unbeatable but it gives the heavy and it's HMG a big advantage. I'd argue that the difference is, a heavy can get right in your face with tons of eHP and rip you to shreds with their HMG. It's already crap when medium frames do it but when a behemoth with frightening CQC capabilities does it *shudders*.
"There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all."
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Supernus Gigas
sNk Syndicate
525
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Posted - 2014.03.21 18:19:00 -
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Are HMG Heavies in LAVs still really such a rampant problem? I hardly ever see them, I really think you guys are blowing this problem out of proportion.
FIRE UP THE HEAVY MEAT GRINDER! WE'RE HAVIN' CLONE BURGERS TONIGHT, BOYS!
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
1102
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Posted - 2014.03.21 18:35:00 -
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Supernus Gigas wrote:Are HMG Heavies in LAVs still really such a rampant problem? I hardly ever see them, I really think you guys are blowing this problem out of proportion. Their in almost every match. I played a match with 5 of them the other day. |
NAV HIV
The Generals General Tso's Alliance
1210
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Posted - 2014.03.21 18:39:00 -
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Shavan D wrote:Why is it that heavy suits have access to weapons the other suits don't, can equip weapons the other suits can, have more armor, and just all around be an annoyance to fight against. Next you see a jeep come screaming out of no where trying to run you over, you doge but cant get away, and then a damn heavy suit pops out solo and guns you down with a shain gun. How is that fair. Which is why heavies shouldn't be allowed to drive or pilot. As long as they can use weapons the other suits can't then they shouldn't be allowed to use even bigger guns. Its only fair.
And for anyone who may say "no" give me one good reason why not. They can still ride in vehicals I just think they shouldn't be driving tanks or other vehicals around.
They Should not be allowed to use Light weapons. Sick and tired of Heavy + Rifle scrubs |
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