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HiddenBrother 131	Posted - 2014.03.21 19:00:00 - [91] - Quote I made a simliliar topic. The heavy blight must be purged. The should not have the option to sprint either, Only jeep HMG scubs like the heavy. I was killed by one of these jeep HMG scubs a few months back. Caldari. Fear, and admiration.
Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 1048	Posted - 2014.03.21 19:04:00 - [92] - Quote BARDAS wrote: Its annoying but acceptable in my opinion. Toss down an RE next time and blow them up either before or after you die . Either way bye bye heavy... After Tuesday 1 RE isn't going to cut it for most heavies Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
deezy dabest CLONES AGAINST HUMANITY 247	Posted - 2014.03.21 19:16:00 - [93] - Quote HiddenBrother wrote: I made a simliliar topic. The heavy blight must be purged. The should not have the option to sprint either, Only jeep HMG scubs like the heavy. I was killed by one of these jeep HMG scubs a few months back. This better be a troll. You were killed by one a few months ago and you are still yelling about it. Only jeep HMG scrubs use the heavy? Please tell me you sit in the redline with your sniper rifle so I do not feel like you either do not play the game at all or you just play with your eyes closed the whole game.
Rusty Shallows 1180	Posted - 2014.03.21 19:16:00 - [94] - Quote Paran Tadec wrote: So many heavies defending the crutch. Everyone else who keeps blindly yelling "crutch" are going to hate Uprising 1.8 since every single one of you will lose to most tactics. You guys have three options at this point: Adapt. Anyone who has played this game for two builds has had to do it at least once. Quit. There are many multiplayer games on the market Yell louder. CCP does political-nerfing. This has been true from Closed Beta to December 2013. Here, have some candy and a Like. :-) Forums > Game
Rusty Shallows 1180	Posted - 2014.03.21 19:29:00 - [95] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: We need enter / exit animations for vehicles. The smaller the suit, the quicker you get in / get out. Problem solved. Using suit mass to determine the speed of an animation is nothing more than a malicious nerf. Also as I said on page one we need Acess-Points. If you are standing behind an LAV you board manning the turret. Same for the passenger and driver seats. Similar equivalencies for HAVs and Dropships. Here, have some candy and a Like. :-) Forums > Game
Dauth Jenkins Ultramarine Corp 272	Posted - 2014.03.21 19:35:00 - [96] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: Dauth Jenkins wrote: Dexter307 wrote: MarasdF Loron wrote: Dexter307 wrote: So REs and hiding Fun Meanwhile heavies in lavs go 40-0 This is why I hate arguing with CoD players, go back to CoD if Dust is too much for you to handle. So your saying it's ok to allow things such as heavies in LAVs? Mabey YOUR the one who needs to go back to cod. That's where the scrubs live, Lolwut? Give me a good reason why heavies shouldn't drive LAVs. Not a QQ "he jumped out and killed me" reason, but a good reason that fixes what you believe to be a gamebreaking problem. Because heavies in lav are more powerful than any other infantry. Ive run heavy in lavs and going 30-0 is the norm. Bu I suppose you don't want your crutch taken away I don't have a single point in heavies. Yes the tactic is utter BS, but your method of fixing it is incorrect. Keeping them from driving altogether is not the answer, and is just a knee-jerk reaction that will result in lots of QQ from heavies who have to get a ride from random blueberries to Get anywhere. Sees prototompers... Sees blueberries start to snipe... Pulls out commando suit with laser rifle and swarm launcher...
Rowdy Railgunner Capital Acquisitions LLC 371	Posted - 2014.03.21 19:46:00 - [97] - Quote Shavan D wrote: Why is it that heavy suits have access to weapons the other suits don't, can equip weapons the other suits can, have more armor, and just all around be an annoyance to fight against. Next you see a jeep come screaming out of no where trying to run you over, you doge but cant get away, and then a damn heavy suit pops out solo and guns you down with a shain gun. How is that fair. Which is why heavies shouldn't be allowed to drive or pilot. As long as they can use weapons the other suits can't then they shouldn't be allowed to use even bigger guns. Its only fair. And for anyone who may say "no" give me one good reason why not. They can still ride in vehicals I just think they shouldn't be driving tanks or other vehicals around. Yeah, heavies shouldn't be able to drive. What they should be able to do is shoot from the passenger seat of an LAV or DS though.
Supernus Gigas sNk Syndicate 530	Posted - 2014.03.21 19:47:00 - [98] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: Supernus Gigas wrote: Are HMG Heavies in LAVs still really such a rampant problem? I hardly ever see them, I really think you guys are blowing this problem out of proportion. Their in almost every match. I played a match with 5 of them the other day. I swear, either i'm playing an entirely different game than everyone else, or I have some out of whack luck. I haven't seen an HMG LAV Heavy since... well I honestly can't remember, it must have been months ago. I see Heavies with Rail Rifles like once every other match, and there's only ever one or two of them and they've never really been a problem for me. I rarely ever see tank spam, and it sucks, my Wiyrkomi BFG is starving. *FIRE UP THE HEAVY MEAT GRINDER! WE'RE HAVIN' CLONE BURGERS TONIGHT, BOYS!*
Jake Diesel BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives 118	Posted - 2014.03.21 19:57:00 - [99] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: I personally would like to see animations for entering vehicles so you cant run up to one and teleport inside to instant safety such as heavies and their lav instantly exiting and reentering their lav. This I totally wished that CCP would implement. Grant it, it's better for that quick teleport in and out of vehicles, but that old game programming is soo old. It needs to change for better immersion.
Orion Vahid Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 260	Posted - 2014.03.21 20:01:00 - [100] - Quote Lol. I can't believe all the good old ******** QQ about Heavy is coming back. Get good and stop complaining

Onesimus Tarsus Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1684	Posted - 2014.03.21 20:04:00 - [101] - Quote Supernus Gigas wrote: Are HMG Heavies in LAVs still really such a rampant problem? I hardly ever see them, I really think you guys are blowing this problem out of proportion. I think you're blowing the obscurity of their complaint out of proportion. Unless you're just *addicted* to wetsuit paperdolls...
Supernus Gigas sNk Syndicate 532	Posted - 2014.03.21 20:32:00 - [102] - Quote Onesimus Tarsus wrote: Supernus Gigas wrote: Are HMG Heavies in LAVs still really such a rampant problem? I hardly ever see them, I really think you guys are blowing this problem out of proportion. I think you're blowing the obscurity of their complaint out of proportion. I... um... what? How exactly was I blowing anything out of proportion with that post? *FIRE UP THE HEAVY MEAT GRINDER! WE'RE HAVIN' CLONE BURGERS TONIGHT, BOYS!*
Kira Takizawa uptown456 Proficiency V. 171	Posted - 2014.03.21 20:44:00 - [103] - Quote Jastad wrote: As a Heavy player we really NEED to get rid of this ****** tattic. Add animation, buff DMG Av granade on LAVS, or the worst solution, Make heavy suit unable to drive ANY vehicles. Not only because is a crutch. we must do this for our SAKE. Guys we are talking about LIFE or DEATH here. Finally CCP is giving some love to us fat-guys. But the road is harsh, if people use Crutch like this CCP for sure will bring out the nerf-hammer... And we all know what happen when CCP pull out that damn thing. I kind of agree and people don't see the future nerf nuke :( Story of the Merc
Jastad D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 644	Posted - 2014.03.21 20:48:00 - [104] - Quote Rusty Shallows wrote: CUT . Rusty i know you are a heavy like me, and it's clear that there is a problem with Heavy suit driving Tanks,LAVS. I usually play as a Ground forger with my heavy, I engage the Tanks and a lots of time when they understand that they are going to die they hop out of the tank and you are now facing a Heavy+HMG....With a sidearm.... I can kill them with my SMG if it's a medium ( or at least try) but stand no chance VS a Heavy+HMG. Also i repeat, we need to get rid of HeavyLAV for OUR sake, before CCP nerf us in to the ground 'cause scrub use crutch tattics. Look the Flylock where it is now.... I don't like limitations, and i hate as a heavy being slow on deploy. But since we have the resistance we asked for ( since beta) and now that we SHINE in cqc we need some drawback. in 1,8 LAVHeavy and Heavy+Lightweapon need to go. Amarr SCR user. Believe in the FORGE, young padawans C'èSoloDoloreSuCharlie
Jastad D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 645	Posted - 2014.03.21 20:49:00 - [105] - Quote Kira Takizawa wrote: Jastad wrote: As a Heavy player we really NEED to get rid of this ****** tattic. Add animation, buff DMG Av granade on LAVS, or the worst solution, Make heavy suit unable to drive ANY vehicles. Not only because is a crutch. we must do this for our SAKE. Guys we are talking about LIFE or DEATH here. Finally CCP is giving some love to us fat-guys. But the road is harsh, if people use Crutch like this CCP for sure will bring out the nerf-hammer... And we all know what happen when CCP pull out that damn thing. I kind of agree and people don't see the future nerf nuke :( Thats right we have a HUGE "damocle's sword" on our head. Amarr SCR user. Believe in the FORGE, young padawans C'èSoloDoloreSuCharlie
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 5984	Posted - 2014.03.21 20:49:00 - [106] - Quote No. By removing it's ability to pilot, you effectively force heavies who play by themselves to walk to objectives, which can quite possibly take 20min when your moving at 3m/s. AV > HAV > INF > AV \| Not: HAV > AV GëÑ INF [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Jastad D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 645	Posted - 2014.03.21 20:51:00 - [107] - Quote Atiim wrote: No. By removing it's ability to pilot, you effectively force heavies who play by themselves to walk to objectives, which can quite possibly take 20min when your moving at 3m/s. every map have a CRU, you only need to wait some blue hack it. I'll glady wait 20 sec if this mean to save my suit from CCP nerfhammer of doom. Amarr SCR user. Believe in the FORGE, young padawans C'èSoloDoloreSuCharlie
deepfried salad gilliam Sanguine Knights 540	Posted - 2014.03.21 20:51:00 - [108] - Quote no. and because it doesn't make sense. oh no someone using something to nullify their weakness, must be considered crutch. btw heavies have to get out some time to shoot you module poll stuff for alts
Kira Takizawa uptown456 Proficiency V. 171	Posted - 2014.03.21 20:51:00 - [109] - Quote Those that are heavies need to give something up to give the mediums and light frames a chance.. get off your lazy *** and trek to the objective (unless you are needed have a squad mate drive you is that so hard? I'm a fat boy and I trek from objective to objective killing most that oppose me.. I don't fear much as a heavy other than a flux nade... And heavies with an equipment slot... You should be ashamed please go to the corner and think about what you said.. then keep hitting youself till I tell you to stop.. Story of the Merc
Roy Ventus Axis of Chaos 1445	Posted - 2014.03.21 20:52:00 - [110] - Quote Jastad wrote: Rusty Shallows wrote: CUT . Rusty i know you are a heavy like me, and it's clear that there is a problem with Heavy suit driving Tanks,LAVS. I usually play as a Ground forger with my heavy, I engage the Tanks and a lots of time when they understand that they are going to die they hop out of the tank and you are now facing a Heavy+HMG....With a sidearm.... I can kill them with my SMG if it's a medium ( or at least try) but stand no chance VS a Heavy+HMG. Also i repeat, we need to get rid of HeavyLAV for OUR sake, before CCP nerf us in to the ground 'cause scrub use crutch tattics. Look the Flylock where it is now.... I don't like limitations, and i hate as a heavy being slow on deploy. But since we have the resistance we asked for ( since beta) and now that we SHINE in cqc we need some drawback. in 1,8 LAVHeavy and Heavy+Lightweapon need to go. That's true and I feel sorry for heavies because it'll be inevitable if CCP can't find a way to limit LAV usage. "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus

Kira Takizawa uptown456 Proficiency V. 171	Posted - 2014.03.21 20:52:00 - [111] - Quote deepfried salad gilliam wrote: no. and because it doesn't make sense. oh no someone using something to nullify their weakness, must be considered crutch. btw heavies have to get out some time to shoot you No they don't... murder taxi heavy or use the turret on the LAV Story of the Merc
Hynox Xitio Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 741	Posted - 2014.03.21 20:54:00 - [112] - Quote This thread is racist towards heavies, CCP enforce your ToS. Unleash the Fogwoggler
Jastad D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 645	Posted - 2014.03.21 20:56:00 - [113] - Quote deepfried salad gilliam wrote: no. and because it doesn't make sense. oh no someone using something to nullify their weakness, must be considered crutch. btw heavies have to get out some time to shoot you C'mon, if you are a MINIMUM capable heavy no one stand a chance VS a HMG in 20M Only lag can screw you. Amarr SCR user. Believe in the FORGE, young padawans C'èSoloDoloreSuCharlie
PARKOUR PRACTIONER Reapers' Assailant 980	Posted - 2014.03.21 20:58:00 - [114] - Quote Shavan D wrote: Why is it that heavy suits have access to weapons the other suits don't, can equip weapons the other suits can, have more armor, and just all around be an annoyance to fight against. Next you see a jeep come screaming out of no where trying to run you over, you doge but cant get away, and then a damn heavy suit pops out solo and guns you down with a shain gun. How is that fair. Which is why heavies shouldn't be allowed to drive or pilot. As long as they can use weapons the other suits can't then they shouldn't be allowed to use even bigger guns. Its only fair. And for anyone who may say "no" give me one good reason why not. They can still ride in vehicals I just think they shouldn't be driving tanks or other vehicals around. I am a logi I do everything else and 98% of the vast majority are idiots and/or ungrateful. I'm not chauffeuring too. No. People who do are usually the envy of those who only watch I'm a scout, and a logi and a 'assault.' Proto Cal Frame
Hecarim Van Hohen Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 654	Posted - 2014.03.21 21:01:00 - [115] - Quote I believe anyone using stimulants should be banned from the New Eden Olympics >_> TOUGH TITTY, SAID THE KITTY. -Blaine the Mono
J4yne C0bb Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 267	Posted - 2014.03.21 21:09:00 - [116] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: Michael Arck wrote: Actually that's an old tactic. Heavy suits are really not that menacing if you know how to fight them. Two keypoints: distance and constant movement. Those two things are kryptonite to a heavy. And no, because anybody can drive a car. Just accept the challenge and find your own way of dealing with it. There is a way... Heavy in a LAV has no weakness. Only a tank can defeat them The best cure for ****-ass heavy LAVers is never run solo. My squad last night ran into one dude that tried 3 separate times to pull that move, and we gave him a dirt nap via concentrated firepower before he could get back in the LAV. The second time, I hacked his jeep so I could find his ass and run him over with it, but the match timer ran out before I could find him. Too bad, it would have been glorious. Never run solo. Min Logi \| aka Punch R0ckgroin*, Fatsuit
A'Real Fury D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 608	Posted - 2014.03.21 21:14:00 - [117] - Quote You would need a map redesign for your idea to work. There is way to much open space in these maps and long range weapons. To have a heavy move slowly around in the open is another way of saying easy kill. You would need more cover, helps everyone, against all vehicles and more buildings e.g. Small towns or at least interlinked buildings with defendable positions and flanking routes (again with cover) which allows for more variety in play styles and the ability to avoid other play styles.
Scalesdini BlackWater Liquidations INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 382	Posted - 2014.03.21 21:26:00 - [118] - Quote I like turtles.
Galthur Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 413	Posted - 2014.03.21 21:30:00 - [119] - Quote I believe the opposite, I strongly believe tanks should be able to drive LAV's and dropships. (Scalesdini's idea) What do you post in the war room when CCP is gone and PC is locked? 14:44 [CCP]Logibro: Not Anime.
Rusty Shallows 1181	Posted - 2014.03.21 21:30:00 - [120] - Quote Jastad wrote: Rusty Shallows wrote: CUT . Rusty i know you are a heavy like me, and it's clear that there is a problem with Heavy suit driving Tanks,LAVS. I usually play as a Ground forger with my heavy, I engage the Tanks and a lots of time when they understand that they are going to die they hop out of the tank and you are now facing a Heavy+HMG....With a sidearm.... I can kill them with my SMG if it's a medium ( or at least try) but stand no chance VS a Heavy+HMG. Also i repeat, we need to get rid of HeavyLAV for OUR sake, before CCP nerf us in to the ground 'cause scrub use crutch tattics. Look the Flylock where it is now.... I don't like limitations, and i hate as a heavy being slow on deploy. But since we have the resistance we asked for ( since beta) and now that we SHINE in cqc we need some drawback. in 1,8 LAVHeavy and Heavy+Lightweapon need to go. On the sandbox principle I don't care about Fatties with Light Weapons. It was a great way to underline the problems with HMGs last year. However you are on target, I'm dead certain there will be problems come Uprising 1.8 and at some point we'll need a weapon type lock on Heavy Frames. The LAV issue isn't after comparing it to other tactics. When crossing a broad danger zone and someone catches me at range I don't call that a cheap tactic. Neither is someone out maneuvering me using cover. People have already stated the real problems: Infantry AV (notably AV Grenades) and Teleporting. Also in total agreement over nerfing. One of the classic problems with Dust 514 is whenever something could compete against Medium Frames with Assault Rifles they would get nerfed. I am hinging my hopes that CCP Rogue will finally bring some sanity and professionalism to the team. The only way I could get on board with Frame-limitations-on-vehicles is if CCP required a specific Dropsuit that functions poorly on foot. Even then they had better redesign (buff) LAVs good because in the land of Large Rails and Large Blasters four-wheeling can be very scary. Here, have some candy and a Like. :-) Forums > Game



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