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Dexter307
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Posted - 2014.03.21 05:33:00 -
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Something definetly needs to be done
In nearly every match i play theres a few heavys driving around.
If were going to allow this then why not give heavies scout speeds  that would be just as balenced |
Dexter307
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Posted - 2014.03.21 05:34:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Actually that's an old tactic. Heavy suits are really not that menacing if you know how to fight them. Two keypoints: distance and constant movement. Those two things are kryptonite to a heavy.
And no, because anybody can drive a car. Just accept the challenge and find your own way of dealing with it. There is a way...
Heavy in a LAV has no weakness.
Only a tank can defeat them |
Dexter307
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Posted - 2014.03.21 05:42:00 -
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MarasdF Loron wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Actually that's an old tactic. Heavy suits are really not that menacing if you know how to fight them. Two keypoints: distance and constant movement. Those two things are kryptonite to a heavy.
And no, because anybody can drive a car. Just accept the challenge and find your own way of dealing with it. There is a way... Heavy in a LAV has no weakness. Only a tank can defeat them Heavy in an LAV has multiple weaknesses, find them and exploit them.
Tank 514 and REs
Oh boy
Av dosent count because its nerfed and broken, especially in 1.8 with the heavy buff and av nerf. |
Dexter307
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Posted - 2014.03.21 05:47:00 -
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I personally would like to see animations for entering vehicles so you cant run up to one and teleport inside to instant safety such as heavies and their lav instantly exiting and reentering their lav. |
Dexter307
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Posted - 2014.03.21 05:48:00 -
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MarasdF Loron wrote:Dexter307 wrote:MarasdF Loron wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Actually that's an old tactic. Heavy suits are really not that menacing if you know how to fight them. Two keypoints: distance and constant movement. Those two things are kryptonite to a heavy.
And no, because anybody can drive a car. Just accept the challenge and find your own way of dealing with it. There is a way... Heavy in a LAV has no weakness. Only a tank can defeat them Heavy in an LAV has multiple weaknesses, find them and exploit them. Tank 514 and REs Oh boy Av dosent count because its nerfed and broken, especially in 1.8 with the heavy buff and av nerf. I was not referring to AV nor tanks, legit infantry vs infantry tactics.
So REs and hiding
Fun
Meanwhile heavies in lavs go 40-0 |
Dexter307
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Posted - 2014.03.21 12:39:00 -
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MarasdF Loron wrote:Dexter307 wrote:
So REs and hiding
Fun
Meanwhile heavies in lavs go 40-0
This is why I hate arguing with CoD players, go back to CoD if Dust is too much for you to handle.
So your saying it's ok to allow things such as heavies in LAVs? Mabey YOUR the one who needs to go back to cod.
That's where the scrubs live, |
Dexter307
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Posted - 2014.03.21 12:40:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Actually that's an old tactic. Heavy suits are really not that menacing if you know how to fight them. Two keypoints: distance and constant movement. Those two things are kryptonite to a heavy.
And no, because anybody can drive a car. Just accept the challenge and find your own way of dealing with it. There is a way... Heavy in a LAV has no weakness. Only a tank can defeat them So you never shot a heavy out of a LAV with a headshot?
Heavies don't get close enough to my shotgun |
Dexter307
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Posted - 2014.03.21 13:46:00 -
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Dauth Jenkins wrote:Dexter307 wrote:MarasdF Loron wrote:Dexter307 wrote:
So REs and hiding
Fun
Meanwhile heavies in lavs go 40-0
This is why I hate arguing with CoD players, go back to CoD if Dust is too much for you to handle. So your saying it's ok to allow things such as heavies in LAVs? Mabey YOUR the one who needs to go back to cod. That's where the scrubs live, Lolwut? Give me a good reason why heavies shouldn't drive LAVs. Not a QQ "he jumped out and killed me" reason, but a good reason that fixes what you believe to be a gamebreaking problem.
Because heavies in lav are more powerful than any other infantry. Ive run heavy in lavs and going 30-0 is the norm. Bu I suppose you don't want your crutch taken away |
Dexter307
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Posted - 2014.03.21 13:56:00 -
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Jack Boost wrote:So you play your game shooting to infantry... pew pew. Now you saw heavy that kill you. No way you think.
You post some word here. CCP remove heavys ingame.
Now you again play your game shooting to infantry... pew pew... You spoted a TANK that kill you.. No way you think.
You post some word here. CCP remove tanks ingame.
Now you again play your game shooting to infantry... pew pew... and you saw dropship.. that kill you... now way to repeat this again....
1. If you specialise only to kill infantry - you have bear with this that vehicles (heavy in vehicle?) kill you.
Everyone die here. If you/your squad/your team dont kill once solo heavy in lav (40-0 - remeber) then you have a lot to learn and change.
2. Play as heavy - now tell me how you supposted to catch 'dynamic' battle firld? (yes you have always option - wait in one place - good for ambush only)
3. Play as heavy - and use your heavy weapon. Now tell me how good you are vs infantry. How much you EHP and speed, no eq, big frame etc (toons of cons) helps.
4. Now back to your game ... and play
Tip - use AV grenades or flux
So your saying no matter how OP something is it's ok?
Wow |
Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
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Posted - 2014.03.21 15:11:00 -
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Jack Boost wrote:Dexter307 wrote:
So your saying no matter how OP something is it's ok?
Wow
There is more OP things. Murder taxi is one (still valid), but less painfull then for example auto-aim rail from HAV when you try AV or power of CR/RR with stacked dmg mods. Note: i'm heavy with light weapon - for almost 1 and 1/2 year without ANY bonuses for dropsuit... and ppl still complain. OP is very young duster (compared). And he discover one thing that is painful for him. This not meant that it is OP, it is hars but valid. What he do when vehicles be more common? (as they dont now  )
Vehicles are already spammed. And rails and damage stacking are going to be fixed.
It's so painfully obvious solo lav heavys are a problem
We need animation for entering and exiting vehicles.
I'd also like to see not letting heavys drive vehicles but allowing them to get in someone else's vehicle. |
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
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Posted - 2014.03.21 15:12:00 -
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Jake Diesel wrote:Shavan D wrote:Why is it that heavy suits have access to weapons the other suits don't, can equip weapons the other suits can, have more armor, and just all around be an annoyance to fight against. Next you see a jeep come screaming out of no where trying to run you over, you doge but cant get away, and then a damn heavy suit pops out solo and guns you down with a shain gun. How is that fair.
Which is why heavies shouldn't be allowed to drive or pilot. As long as they can use weapons the other suits can't then they shouldn't be allowed to use even bigger guns. Its only fair.
And for anyone who may say "no" give me one good reason why not. They can still ride in vehicals I just think they shouldn't be driving tanks or other vehicals around. Why? Simple. They are the slowest, heaviest, fattest dropsuits around. You can't traverse terrain like alle the other suits. You're practically walking just to cross the road. Can't jump over obstacles that are 1 foot tall. That's 12 inches by the way. And the only method of getting from point A to point B fast is to call in your own ride or hitch a ride with someone else. Seriously, before you complain, try running a heavy suit for a month straight and see what we all heavies deal with. And no, LAV's can't be called in anywhere. That is only for open ground or large area topped buildings.
I've seen heavies refusing to leave their lav, they even drive around IN buildings. |
Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
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Posted - 2014.03.21 15:29:00 -
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boba's fetta wrote:Shavan D wrote:Why is it that heavy suits have access to weapons the other suits don't, can equip weapons the other suits can, have more armor, and just all around be an annoyance to fight against. Next you see a jeep come screaming out of no where trying to run you over, you doge but cant get away, and then a damn heavy suit pops out solo and guns you down with a shain gun. How is that fair.
Which is why heavies shouldn't be allowed to drive or pilot. As long as they can use weapons the other suits can't then they shouldn't be allowed to use even bigger guns. Its only fair.
And for anyone who may say "no" give me one good reason why not. They can still ride in vehicals I just think they shouldn't be driving tanks or other vehicals around. and you shouldnt be allowed to post.
Crutch supporter |
Dexter307
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Posted - 2014.03.21 17:31:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Jake Diesel wrote:Shavan D wrote:Why is it that heavy suits have access to weapons the other suits don't, can equip weapons the other suits can, have more armor, and just all around be an annoyance to fight against. Next you see a jeep come screaming out of no where trying to run you over, you doge but cant get away, and then a damn heavy suit pops out solo and guns you down with a shain gun. How is that fair.
Which is why heavies shouldn't be allowed to drive or pilot. As long as they can use weapons the other suits can't then they shouldn't be allowed to use even bigger guns. Its only fair.
And for anyone who may say "no" give me one good reason why not. They can still ride in vehicals I just think they shouldn't be driving tanks or other vehicals around. Why? Simple. They are the slowest, heaviest, fattest dropsuits around. You can't traverse terrain like alle the other suits. You're practically walking just to cross the road. Can't jump over obstacles that are 1 foot tall. That's 12 inches by the way. And the only method of getting from point A to point B fast is to call in your own ride or hitch a ride with someone else. Seriously, before you complain, try running a heavy suit for a month straight and see what we all heavies deal with. And no, LAV's can't be called in anywhere. That is only for open ground or large area topped buildings. I've seen heavies refusing to leave their lav, they even drive around IN buildings. This is because it's fun. I like the QQ mails it gives me. I do it in whatever suit I happen to be using. For example, my Amarr Assault.
No, heavies do It because it's more effective than actually walking. I was scouting a lone build and I see a heavy driving around inside the building. It was one of the stupidest things and biggest immersion breaker I've ever seen.
If you don't see any problems with this than you have a problem.
If this is allowed then my scout should get 2x speed and 2000 hp to be fair
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
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Posted - 2014.03.21 18:35:00 -
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Supernus Gigas wrote:Are HMG Heavies in LAVs still really such a rampant problem? I hardly ever see them, I really think you guys are blowing this problem out of proportion. 
Their in almost every match.
I played a match with 5 of them the other day. |
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