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ResistanceGTA D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 593	Posted - 2014.03.20 12:37:00 - [31] - Quote If a .75 is a mountain, then, dang, what the hell did I climb? In chrome mine was a .42 (pure Logi with a Basic SMG). Since Uprising, with the help of an Assault suit early on and my beloved Python in 1.6 and my Incubus currently, I pulled myself out on the gutter and am now sitting at a semirespectable (I hope) 2.53. As to does it matter? When I was that low when Uprising hit, yes, it did. I felt like I was pretty useless. My Heavy friend, with his 40+ games every time, however, made me realize that I was pretty handy to have around and did some great work. Now, I could careless. Low KD? Let's figure out why and work off your strengths. If I'm comparing people, I usually do more of a WP/K or WP/D ratio. WP/K is my favorite, because most top leaderboard people average around 80WP per kill (iirc) with the main exception (off the top of my head) being Doc DDD having somewhere around a 300WP per kill (While being a tanker would do that, most tankers aren't actually that good at tank busting, most just hunt infantry according to the math). xSivartx is my Heavy. There are many like him, but he is my own... So, other Logi's back off, those are my Warpoints!
We are 138 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 507	Posted - 2014.03.20 12:38:00 - [32] - Quote The highest my kd has ever been was 1.34 and since It is now 1.25 and Thats because of remote explosives on a frotline suit. Its just so fun. But honestly it has never mattered to me and dust is the first fps that I have broken the 1.0 mark. I'm an objective pusher, I am personal vendetta guy and I take pride in dieing a lot if it means I took the letter and turned a match around.
Emperor1349 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 47	Posted - 2014.03.20 12:52:00 - [33] - Quote Look at your monthly and weekly k/d its a lot more accurate. Its hard to really play the game and come out with positive kd at low sp, even now at 22m sp I run starter fits for isk, I play with others irl and pass the controller around and that always screws your kd. Lifetime kd isn't nearly as accurate as your weekly and monthly kd. R.I.P Mag - SVER
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 2183	Posted - 2014.03.20 12:54:00 - [34] - Quote I stopped caring awhile ago, at one point I was happy to maintain a 5.25 kdr, now I just don't bother looking at it for months at a time.
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 1133	Posted - 2014.03.20 12:57:00 - [35] - Quote I try to keep at 1.00 K/D but it doesn't bother me when I don't hit that. I care more about making a profit in ISK at the end of the match. We are immortal mercenaries, right? Being immortal pretty much negates the fear of death. The mercenary part means we care about The Almighty ISK. At least that's the way I see it. He imposes order on the chaos of organic evolution...
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 1187	Posted - 2014.03.20 13:04:00 - [36] - Quote al nize mk2 wrote: Passing 10m SP I feel like I should be faintly fantastic by now - but still I'm real limited.. If I really focus and play tactics I can make up to 15 kills and die about half the number of times. If I'm slightly off - I am well capable of disgracing myself worse than ever. I've got an absolute f&&*&n mountain to climb just to make my KDR 1! I know most of you say who gives a cr^p about KDR and I completely understand. But the stat is there - staring me in the face in all of it's embarassing glory. 0.75. Genuinely I'm thinking of throwing a party when I hit KDR 1. Honestly it does to me since i'm not a logi player. Personally a non-logi assault player should have about 3.0 KDR... I don't do very well in logi work, other than uplinks and nano hives... But i'm more interested in that W/L ratio... Most of the KDR boosters i've seen in match, they leave if they die more than 3 times. That's no way of raising your KDR. I know how difficult it is to raise it and maintain it....
Sergamon Draco Rautaleijona Top Men. 398	Posted - 2014.03.20 13:06:00 - [37] - Quote I have to comment,read my signature Fck the kdr,i`m going in
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 4707	Posted - 2014.03.20 13:08:00 - [38] - Quote Yeah, but only so I can see my progress. I don't like to compare, and I don't brag about it. I have like a mediocre 1.7. Or at least I did last month when I checked. Taco Cat backwards is still Taco Cat
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 3345	Posted - 2014.03.20 13:12:00 - [39] - Quote I actually looked at mine last night for the first time in months. Still the same at 1.74. I care about winning and keeping my wallet pointed in the right direction. I look for good fights and trying new fits and tactics. No, lifetime KDR means nothing to me. Battle KDR just provides feedback on how well that new fit or tactic worked out. Adapt or Die // Republic Lance Commander // @ReesNoturana
LEHON Xeon Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 336	Posted - 2014.03.20 13:13:00 - [40] - Quote Yes and no. I always try to never go negative ever in matches and still get a lot of kills. All that being combined with being a real logi with all equipment, I think I don't do too bad. Mine is 1.5 which I brought way up from an original of 0.64 It's a trap! In this patch we can't repel firepower of that magnitude! - Admiral Ackbar would say in ambush w Nyain San

Jackof All-Trades The Black Renaissance 533	Posted - 2014.03.20 13:22:00 - [41] - Quote kinda, as ISK output seems to be calculated by it in some way "Pulvis et umbra sums." We are but dust and shadow GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace \ Omni-Specialist / Focus: Gallente
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 3205	Posted - 2014.03.20 13:23:00 - [42] - Quote I don't really care. Mine was 0.16 when I first saw it. I hit 1.00 at about 10,000 Kills. I've been having fun spamming the living ** out of MLT suits lately. If I walk away with a 1.00 or better at the end of a match, I win. I could run Prototype suits and easily keep a 5.00, but then what's the fun in that? The uphill challenge is lost. Who's going to give a ? Is it going to get me some oral? No. Well then, ** it. And these asswipes that claim they don't give *, but run Proto Aurum gear match after match, death after death, are full of . You wouldn't have bought into that ** if you weren't trying to overcompensate for something... I GÖú Kittens.
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 3346	Posted - 2014.03.20 13:24:00 - [43] - Quote Jackof All-Trades wrote: kinda, as ISK output seems to be calculated by it in some way ISK is based on your War Points compared to the rest of your team. A Logistics placing at the top with no kills can make more ISK than anyone else and have a battle KDR of 0/15. It does help pay for those expensive Logistics fits though. Adapt or Die // Republic Lance Commander // @ReesNoturana
al nize mk2 DUST University Ivy League 31	Posted - 2014.03.20 13:26:00 - [44] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: Is it going to get me some oral? No. Well then, **** it.... haha - not a bad philosophy for life in general! GÇ£All that I know most surely about morality and obligations I owe to football.GÇ¥
shadow drake35 The Third Day Galactic Skyfleet Empire 81	Posted - 2014.03.20 13:30:00 - [45] - Quote no MAG Raven, Valor, and S.V.E.R. Veteran
Rei Shepard The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback 1619	Posted - 2014.03.20 13:30:00 - [46] - Quote al nize mk2 wrote: Passing 10m SP I feel like I should be faintly fantastic by now - but still I'm real limited.. If I really focus and play tactics I can make up to 15 kills and die about half the number of times. If I'm slightly off - I am well capable of disgracing myself worse than ever. I've got an absolute f&&*&n mountain to climb just to make my KDR 1! I know most of you say who gives a cr^p about KDR and I completely understand. But the stat is there - staring me in the face in all of it's embarassing glory. 0.75. Genuinely I'm thinking of throwing a party when I hit KDR 1. I don't care about my KDR, ive never used vehicles, ive solod 99.9% of my matches and ive never specced into a FOTM and i dont really use Tactics and its still sitting at 5.75 ish last time i checked. I have no idea how people can run a 1.0 KDR or below, i really don't....and i am way passed my FPS prime. Winner of the EU Squad Cup "Go Go Power Rangers!" "Accuracy"
soulreaper73 PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies 768	Posted - 2014.03.20 13:35:00 - [47] - Quote I am amazed that no one has stated the obvious. KDR does not get you laid.
Piraten Hovnoret Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 425	Posted - 2014.03.20 13:37:00 - [48] - Quote Rei Shepard wrote: al nize mk2 wrote: Passing 10m SP I feel like I should be faintly fantastic by now - but still I'm real limited.. If I really focus and play tactics I can make up to 15 kills and die about half the number of times. If I'm slightly off - I am well capable of disgracing myself worse than ever. I've got an absolute f&&*&n mountain to climb just to make my KDR 1! I know most of you say who gives a cr^p about KDR and I completely understand. But the stat is there - staring me in the face in all of it's embarassing glory. 0.75. Genuinely I'm thinking of throwing a party when I hit KDR 1. I don't care about my KDR, ive never used vehicles, ive solod 99.9% of my matches and ive never specced into a FOTM and i dont really use Tactics and its still sitting at 5.75 ish last time i checked. I have no idea how people can run a 1.0 KDR or below, i really don't....and i am way passed my FPS prime. It must be nice to be you! Inlighten the rest how it is bro we al have a need to feel your awesomeness. War never changes
GeneralButtNaked Fatal Absolution 771	Posted - 2014.03.20 13:42:00 - [49] - Quote KDR matters for tankers, heavies, and slayers. Logis and scouts don't have to be killing to be effective, but it helps. Real AV doesn't stop until all the tanks are dead.
Duke Noobiam Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 35	Posted - 2014.03.20 13:44:00 - [50] - Quote al nize mk2 wrote: Passing 10m SP I feel like I should be faintly fantastic by now - but still I'm real limited.. If I really focus and play tactics I can make up to 15 kills and die about half the number of times. If I'm slightly off - I am well capable of disgracing myself worse than ever. I've got an absolute f&&&n mountain to climb just to make my KDR 1! I know most of you say who gives a cr^p about KDR and I completely understand. But the stat is there - staring me in the face in all of it's embarassing glory. 0.75. Genuinely I'm thinking of throwing a party when I hit KDR 1. I'm in the same boat... Only ever run infantry ( logi or assault) and my lifetime KDR is around 0.70 although my monhtly and weekly is usually slightly above 1.00. I think what we have is pretty standard for the average infantry player. Keep in mind that all things being equal (skill, meta level of equipment and experience), KD/R will reflect the following.. Tankers > dropship pilots > Heavy > Assault >= Logi >= Scout* So if you run a logi or scout exclusively it will be much harder and require much more skill to have a positive KDR then it would if you ran a heavy or a tank. When the red river runs, take the dirt road.

Gauder Berwyck Deadly Blue Dots 319	Posted - 2014.03.20 13:51:00 - [51] - Quote In a [maximum players] 16v16 scenario, then the guys with massive KDRs will win just about every time. Those who say that KDR doesn't matter are disillusioned and haven't seen the light yet. KDR is an indication of how good you are at staying alive, while still killing. The less you die, the better you can do your job. The more you kill, the easier you make your own job. The two go hand in hand. Until battles become something like 256v256 with three consecutive battles one after the other, all results interconnected, then and only MAYBE then will numbers start to matter. Try-hard clans won't be able to field the same numbers and still retain their killing superiority before they get burned out by the number of matches and opponents they face. IMO, Dust is the one game that has gotten closest to this scenario, where numbers CAN outfight skill. But still no go. Slayers are still the most valuable team asset any team can have.
Duke Noobiam Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 35	Posted - 2014.03.20 13:57:00 - [52] - Quote Rei Shepard wrote: al nize mk2 wrote: Passing 10m SP I feel like I should be faintly fantastic by now - but still I'm real limited.. If I really focus and play tactics I can make up to 15 kills and die about half the number of times. If I'm slightly off - I am well capable of disgracing myself worse than ever. I've got an absolute f&&*&n mountain to climb just to make my KDR 1! I know most of you say who gives a cr^p about KDR and I completely understand. But the stat is there - staring me in the face in all of it's embarassing glory. 0.75. Genuinely I'm thinking of throwing a party when I hit KDR 1. I don't care about my KDR, ive never used vehicles, ive solod 99.9% of my matches and ive never specced into a FOTM and i dont really use Tactics and its still sitting at 5.75 ish last time i checked. I have no idea how people can run a 1.0 KDR or below, i really don't....and i am way passed my FPS prime. Maybe you just have more experience at FPS games than the average joe. Personally this is my first FPS (and I'm an older gamer) so my learning curve has been and is still very steep. When the red river runs, take the dirt road.
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 5150	Posted - 2014.03.20 14:01:00 - [53] - Quote not in the slightest, wouldn't be a scout if it did. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Kevall Longstride DUST University Ivy League 1076	Posted - 2014.03.20 14:03:00 - [54] - Quote No. And I kinda have a dim view of those that leave a match before the end if they've had a bad one, so they can save their precious KDR. Mercenary Clone of Dennie Fleetfoot CEO of DUST University CPM1 candidate
al nize mk2 DUST University Ivy League 32	Posted - 2014.03.20 14:39:00 - [55] - Quote Rei Shepard wrote: I have no idea how people can run a 1.0 KDR or below, i really don't....and i am way passed my FPS prime. Stunned to hear that your kdr is over 5 and always has been! Complete respect if you kicked off that way and never looked back. But come on.. you must see how difficult this game is for newbs. Now I'm not a newb anymore and I'm getting better - if my kdr started a month ago I reckon it would be closer to 2. And I would consider myself a decent player - but you must be one of those guys that murders the s*** out of me and makes me cry every other game! GÇ£All that I know most surely about morality and obligations I owe to football.GÇ¥
Aramis Madrigal SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 169	Posted - 2014.03.20 14:48:00 - [56] - Quote Metrics are useful if you are aware of their constraints. KDR can be a measure of your current performance vs. historical performance, an ancillary consideration (like for a full time logi), or the central focus of your game play. I like to kill more than die, but that is secondary to winning and having fun. Many of my most enjoyable games are trying to keep a group of blueberrys from getting spawn camped/redlined by organized squads by providing safe up links in defensible spots, harassing the enemy and ninja hacking objectives. From my perspective, KDR can be a useful tool to track performance (I'm a slayer), but it would ruin my game play experience if I fixated on it. -Aramis
TheDarthMa94 The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 181	Posted - 2014.03.20 14:52:00 - [57] - Quote Real men don't care about their K/DR! Sith Apprentice and Director of NAO "Corp leaders boost corp members morale, morale is a key to victory"
Viktor Hadah Jr Critical-Impact 3105	Posted - 2014.03.20 14:55:00 - [58] - Quote KDR can be easily bought with ISK. Selling Templar BPO's 250Mil Last of the BPO's(Click link) I feed off your tears
al nize mk2 DUST University Ivy League 32	Posted - 2014.03.20 14:55:00 - [59] - Quote Horizen Kenpachi wrote: Just spam tanks everyone else is dunaing it if not join-in-my-stomp. But seriously ur kdr looks like u play this game honestly with that id be proud. In truth I considered going tank crazy but then I got all GI Joe about it and decided I would either do it the hard way or not at all! GÇ£All that I know most surely about morality and obligations I owe to football.GÇ¥
Kigurosaka Laaksonen DUST University Ivy League 688	Posted - 2014.03.20 14:58:00 - [60] - Quote I couldn't care less about my KDR. DUST 514 Recruit Code - https://dust514.com/recruit/zluCyb/ EVE Buddy Invite - Too damn long. Ask me for it.



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