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        |  AfroSunshineY Consequence
 R 0 N 1 N
 
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      | Posted - 2014.03.20 05:57:00 -
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 o7 Fellow Scouts. Many of us have been playing Dust on hard mode for more than 1 year at this point. We've stayed true to the way of the scout and endured the wrath of the Mass Driver, the TacAR, Scrambler Rifle spam, and now, of course, Rail Rifle and Combat Rifle wielding heavy suits (because that's fair, right?). Come 1.8, some of our concerns - nay - almost all of our concerns are being addressed. Unfortunately, our new shiny suits will now, for the first time since Chromosome attract the average Joe Schmo just looking for a high kill count. You know the type. FotM players - players addicted to the mild dopaminergic high emanating from their nucleus accumbens that they get from "owning" some new player in a militia fit while safely in their sentinel ak.0 with 1400 eHP and a Kaalakiota RR. I don't like these people. And their coming for our new suits.
 
 Thus, I propose a "True Scout" Grace Period. 1 Week after the release of 1.8 in which the true scouts get to bask in the glory of their finally balanced awesomeness. 1 Week in which the try hards stay at home and the true scouts can enjoy the bliss of curbstomping those proto logis of Uprising updates past.
 
 Try Hards Need Not Apply.
 
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        |  Maken Tosch
 DUST University
 Ivy League
 
 7502
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.20 06:02:00 -
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 I too am afraid of these fotm bastard ruining our fun. They always attract the "nerf herders".
 
 Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor | 
      
      
        |  STEALTH HUNTER ZERO
 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
 
 203
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.20 06:02:00 -
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 I really think most of them who currently run assault and switch to scouts are going to be easy targets for us true ninjas. They will probably want something else changed to give them an advantage so watch for the QQ.
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        |  noobsniper the 2nd
 OLDSPICE.
 Top Men.
 
 289
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.20 06:03:00 -
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 Im down can't wait to gank some FOTM ass
 
 just call me communist space king noob MAG vet raven ftw Pre 1.8 scout don't throw me in with that rift raft | 
      
      
        |  jerrmy12 kahoalii
 
 571
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.20 06:09:00 -
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 STEALTH HUNTER ZERO wrote:I really think most of them who currently run assault and switch to scouts are going to be easy targets for us true ninjas. They will probably want something else changed to give them an advantage so watch for the QQ. Btw, your not safe
 I played MANY games with cloak, I should notice you.
 
 Closed beta vet
Logi,
Heavy,
Python,
Scout.
Dark souls 2 new game plus. | 
      
      
        |  Maken Tosch
 DUST University
 Ivy League
 
 7502
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.20 06:12:00 -
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 STEALTH HUNTER ZERO wrote:I really think most of them who currently run assault and switch to scouts are going to be easy targets for us true ninjas. They will probably want something else changed to give them an advantage so watch for the QQ. 
 If any of them complain that the scouts are underpowered after 1.8 I will stab them so hard like Chucky on crack. And anyone calling for a nerf on scouts after that should be ignored because they don't consider the fact that usually it's a professional scout that kills them most of the time.
 
 Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor | 
      
      
        |  STEALTH HUNTER ZERO
 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
 
 203
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.20 06:30:00 -
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 jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:STEALTH HUNTER ZERO wrote:I really think most of them who currently run assault and switch to scouts are going to be easy targets for us true ninjas. They will probably want something else changed to give them an advantage so watch for the QQ. Btw, your not safe I played MANY games with cloak, I should notice you. I really don't need cloak, its just a bonus. I hunt and flank people just fine atm.
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        |  Vitharr Foebane
 Living Like Larry Schwag
 
 800
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.20 06:48:00 -
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 Would you consider this FOTM chasing xD http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/140/1274
 
 Thanks CCP for making the HMG Heavy viable again :3 That's no excuse to slack off on releasing a heavy laser though =.= | 
      
      
        |  jerrmy12 kahoalii
 
 571
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.20 06:57:00 -
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 STEALTH HUNTER ZERO wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:STEALTH HUNTER ZERO wrote:I really think most of them who currently run assault and switch to scouts are going to be easy targets for us true ninjas. They will probably want something else changed to give them an advantage so watch for the QQ. Btw, your not safe I played MANY games with cloak, I should notice you. I really don't need cloak, its just a bonus. I hunt and flank people just fine atm. I do too
 But be prepared to be killed if my tv isnt crap
 
 Closed beta vet
Logi,
Heavy,
Python,
Scout.
Dark souls 2 new game plus. | 
      
      
        |  Lea Silencio
 0uter.Heaven
 
 1402
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.20 06:58:00 -
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 Lol@Scrambler Rifle spam.
 
 I must have missed the memo. So, when exactly did this happen? A better question would be when was this ever considered FoTM? Because I have NEVER seen them used by more than 3 players on each side and have NEVER seen them completely dominate a kill feed.
 
 
 
 PurificationGäó It's what I do. Amarr Victor | 
      
      
        |  Jaghen Hagharr
 BLACK-GUARD
 Die Fremdenlegion
 
 5
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.20 06:59:00 -
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 Maken Tosch wrote:I too am afraid of these fotm bastard ruining our fun. They always attract the "nerf herders". 
 This !!
  
 Rashness is the characteristic of youth, prudence that of mellowed age, and discretion the better part of valor. Cicero | 
      
      
        |  Matticus Monk
 Ordus Trismegistus
 
 1450
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.20 07:06:00 -
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 I openly morn the loss of the 1.7 scout.
 
 By bye my beloved hard-mode, the riff-raff is moving into the neighborhood.
 
 I may have to switch to using light frames or even militia light frames so the game doesn't loose it's taste for me. Even thinking about the unwashed masses soiling the scout suit gives me the heebs.
 
 Keep your 1.8, CCP. Keep your stupid cloak. But most of all, keep your new scrambler pistol stats.
 
 
 
 Double posting like a Kaiser. | 
      
      
        |  Llast 326
 An Arkhos
 
 2500
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.20 07:12:00 -
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 Maken Tosch wrote:I too am afraid of these fotm bastard ruining our fun. They always attract the "nerf herders". Look at the bright side
 if they get scouts nerfed most of us will already be used to hard mode so it won't make much difference to us.
 
 KRRROOOOOOM | 
      
      
        |  Bojo The Mighty
 L.O.T.I.S.
 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
 
 3560
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.20 07:12:00 -
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 Message from CPM:
 
 After Hurricane 1.8 many medium frames have been displaced. A refugee center will be located in scouts and all displaced will be moved into scout neighborhoods.
 
 Bojo's Future Response:
 Scout neighborhood is now just a hood.
 
 68 inches above sea level... | 
      
      
        |  Aythadis Smith
 G I A N T
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 137
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.20 07:17:00 -
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 Hearing notbing but brick tanked fits, how " it's unfair thay scouts get a cloak" to as far as people I know who were big time logi and heavies now going scout. Happy you're trying it, too bad you missed Aim Bot 514, shot gun and KBM getting anti aim assist, to insta gibb RR.
 
 When I see Nyain spamming scouts like tanks.....
 
 I was so happy for this update. Now I just want this buff to go away.
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        |  Rusty Shallows
 
 1172
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.20 07:17:00 -
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 AfroSunshineY Consequence wrote:snip
 Thus, I propose a "True Scout" Grace Period. 1 Week after the release of 1.8 in which the true scouts get to bask in the glory of their finally balanced awesomeness. 1 Week in which the try hards stay at home and the true scouts can enjoy the bliss of curbstomping those proto logis of Uprising updates past.
 
 Try Hards Need Not Apply.
 
 How much are you willing to pay for my Minja to stay in his quarters? Then again he's a Minja not whatever a True Scout is so maybe this is moot.
 
 Here, have some candy and a Like. :-) Forums > Game | 
      
      
        |  Yan Darn
 Forsaken Immortals
 Top Men.
 
 360
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.20 08:24:00 -
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 Maken Tosch wrote:I too am afraid of these fotm bastard ruining our fun. They always attract the "nerf herders". 
 Yup, my concern too. Also, hopefully cloak won't have some mechanic that can be abused that will bait the FoTM chasers. No doubt the idea of cloaks are gonna attract some tourists - which is fine as long as they go back where they came from eventually...
 
 I've said before - tryhards won't have the patience to run scout when you have sentinels and commandos to choose from (the more short sighted ones will stick with slayer logis...).
 
 If they rely on cloaks they are gonna fail to get the kills/KDR that makes their OPness feel all tingly.
 
 
 
 The Ghost of Bravo | 
      
      
        |  Racro 01 Arifistan
 501st Knights of Leanbox
 INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
 
 215
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.20 08:36:00 -
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 at level 5 scout the scout gk.o dosnt need a claok but iam going to use one for added benefit,
 
 by dosnt need a claok i mean hideing form enemy active/passive scans.
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        |  Wurm FOOD
 The Southern Legion
 League of Infamy
 
 95
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.20 08:58:00 -
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 Will you resent me if I use Amarr scout (I only use Amarr suits)?
 If you do I really won't care, I'm just interested.
 
 Member of the Commando 6 All hail the Commando ak.0 | 
      
      
        |  Kira Takizawa
 uptown456
 Proficiency V.
 
 170
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.20 10:01:00 -
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 Keep that over there with those Amarrians they don't deserve scout suits... It's a disgrace to scouts.
  
 Story of the Merc | 
      
      
        |  Kira Takizawa
 uptown456
 Proficiency V.
 
 170
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.20 10:02:00 -
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 Wurm FOOD wrote:Will you resent me if I use Amarr scout (I only use Amarr suits)?If you do I really won't care, I'm just interested.
 
 As long as you stick to the shadows you are welcomed.
  Just no super assault scout plz  
 Story of the Merc | 
      
      
        |  Korvin Lomont
 United Pwnage Service
 RISE of LEGION
 
 781
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.20 10:29:00 -
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 STEALTH HUNTER ZERO wrote:I really think most of them who currently run assault and switch to scouts are going to be easy targets for us true ninjas. They will probably want something else changed to give them an advantage so watch for the QQ. 
 ^This, once they realize the suit alone won't help that much without the ways of combat we all learned the hard way, I am pretty sure most will move along to heavies either for the 10% damage boost (commando) or the incredible amount of HP (sentinel)
 
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        |  CommanderBolt
 ACME SPECIAL FORCES
 RISE of LEGION
 
 1104
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.20 10:48:00 -
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 Dude just let people do what they do. Have fun and enjoy the game. Proper scouts will always shine. It was only last night that I played some of your corp.
 
 We ran into to Lightning, Neausea etc... and we got beat. I have had scout suits since chrome but I have to admit I have not really used them much at all in a long time. I'm trying to get back into stuff, just play around with fits and what ever takes my fancy but it is VERY CLEAR that a proper dedicated good scout will always beat a fotm scout so why worry?
 
 Investigate 9/11 | 
      
      
        |  Vesperz
 D3ATH CARD
 
 59
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.20 11:09:00 -
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 Soooo.... anyone else run into a scout gk.0 completey stacked with armor plates and proto RR/CR? Tell me I'm seeing things, please.
  
 Live by honor, kill by stealth. | 
      
      
        |  Piraten Hovnoret
 Molon Labe.
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 424
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.20 12:25:00 -
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 My gallante scout is prob going to be FOTM
 That's makes me sad because it will be nerfed into oblivion when al the FOTM pimps starts to abuse it.
 It will be left by the FOTM mob like a used condom that you throw in thrash after bad sex.
 
 I will stay with it never the less. I am used to the hard mode that won't make me leave my beloved suit.
 
 To al the scouts out there you al have my respect, some of you are blowing me away in how god you are in the scout suit now and in the past.
 
 To the OP I can only say this you and your corp are one of very few that have its hart at the right place I would love to run scout with you al
 
 Regards and respect
 Some one that is still learning
 
 War never changes | 
      
      
        |  calisk galern
 BurgezzE.T.F
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 2183
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.20 12:37:00 -
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 I be in your base scouting all your dudes.
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        |  Reav Hannari
 Red Rock Outriders
 
 3344
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.20 12:50:00 -
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 The bad thing is they'll dump ALL their SP into scouts and won't have much choice but to stick with it while crying for a respec on the forums. This is why I hate respecs. It ruins it for the few legit cases.
 
 Adapt or Die // Republic Lance Commander // @ReesNoturana | 
      
      
        |  Yan Darn
 Forsaken Immortals
 Top Men.
 
 363
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.20 18:15:00 -
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 CommanderBolt wrote:Dude just let people do what they do. Have fun and enjoy the game. Proper scouts will always shine. It was only last night that I played some of your corp.
 We ran into to Lightning, Neausea etc... and we got beat. I have had scout suits since chrome but I have to admit I have not really used them much at all in a long time. I'm trying to get back into stuff, just play around with fits and what ever takes my fancy but it is VERY CLEAR that a proper dedicated good scout will always beat a fotm scout so why worry?
 
 It's not scout on 'scout' that is the problem for me. Current scouts know a lot of blues don't understand how scouts work and fall for basic scouty tactics over and over...
 
 I've even had to explain to my own squad, things like why I'm not moving directly with them when they attack that heavily defended point from the front (the fact you are logi with reps doesn't help me as much as you think...).
 
 With buffs and cloaks, your average FoTM /newbro scout will manage to get some 'annoying/cheap' kills in - add in the old scouts who can top leaderboards already - your average forum QQer who loses their pro-suit once too often to REs, shotguns and NK, will suddenly label scouts OP/Scrubby and the nerf whine will begin.
 
 I mean I remember being in a non-scout squad, the reds had a scout squad - between REs and ninja NK/Shotgun kills the city points were locked down. I tried explaining to my squad - we need to flux points and have someone cover the hacker. They can see us (...them) on passives relatively easily and we won't see them on our radar - we have to assume they are always ready to strike at us...oh and don't chase them around corners...
 
 The responses I got?
 
 'Thats ******* cheap...'
 
 'Wait - so they will just hide until we have our backs to them? Gaaaay'
 
 '****! That guy is just running up to people and knifing them!'
 'I know right - I mean learn some ******* gun game'
 
 '******* cheap ass ************ just knifed me, same cheap ass ************ who got me with that remote - ******* scrubs abusing broken ****!'
 
 And that is now before the buffs we've been waiting for. I fully expect to receive hatemail about cloaks even if I wasn't using them.
 
 The tryhards wont have the nerve to stick with it, but they may **** off other tryhards enough to cause detrimental QQ.
 
 People hate what they don't understand.
 
 
 
 The Ghost of Bravo | 
      
      
        |  PARKOUR PRACTIONER
 Reapers' Assailant
 
 963
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.20 18:21:00 -
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 I'm a scout, just not a good one. I still haven't found my playstyle yet.
 
 People who do are usually the envy of those who only watch Parkour involves seeing one's environment in a new way | 
      
      
        |  Leadfoot10
 Molon Labe.
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 860
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.20 18:23:00 -
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 Of course, none of you "true scouts" will be using the new cloaks lest you be compared to those you wish to denigrate.
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