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AfroSunshineY Consequence R 0 N 1 N 221	Posted - 2014.03.20 05:57:00 - [1] - Quote o7 Fellow Scouts. Many of us have been playing Dust on hard mode for more than 1 year at this point. We've stayed true to the way of the scout and endured the wrath of the Mass Driver, the TacAR, Scrambler Rifle spam, and now, of course, Rail Rifle and Combat Rifle wielding heavy suits (because that's fair, right?). Come 1.8, some of our concerns - nay - almost all of our concerns are being addressed. Unfortunately, our new shiny suits will now, for the first time since Chromosome attract the average Joe Schmo just looking for a high kill count. You know the type. FotM players - players addicted to the mild dopaminergic high emanating from their nucleus accumbens that they get from "owning" some new player in a militia fit while safely in their sentinel ak.0 with 1400 eHP and a Kaalakiota RR. I don't like these people. And their coming for our new suits. Thus, I propose a "True Scout" Grace Period. 1 Week after the release of 1.8 in which the true scouts get to bask in the glory of their finally balanced awesomeness. 1 Week in which the try hards stay at home and the true scouts can enjoy the bliss of curbstomping those proto logis of Uprising updates past. Try Hards Need Not Apply.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 7502	Posted - 2014.03.20 06:02:00 - [2] - Quote I too am afraid of these fotm bastard ruining our fun. They always attract the "nerf herders". Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
STEALTH HUNTER ZERO D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 203	Posted - 2014.03.20 06:02:00 - [3] - Quote I really think most of them who currently run assault and switch to scouts are going to be easy targets for us true ninjas. They will probably want something else changed to give them an advantage so watch for the QQ.
noobsniper the 2nd OLDSPICE. Top Men. 289	Posted - 2014.03.20 06:03:00 - [4] - Quote Im down can't wait to gank some FOTM ass just call me communist space king noob MAG vet raven ftw Pre 1.8 scout don't throw me in with that rift raft
jerrmy12 kahoalii 571	Posted - 2014.03.20 06:09:00 - [5] - Quote STEALTH HUNTER ZERO wrote: I really think most of them who currently run assault and switch to scouts are going to be easy targets for us true ninjas. They will probably want something else changed to give them an advantage so watch for the QQ. Btw, your not safe I played MANY games with cloak, I should notice you. Closed beta vet Logi, Heavy, Python, Scout. Dark souls 2 new game plus.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 7502	Posted - 2014.03.20 06:12:00 - [6] - Quote STEALTH HUNTER ZERO wrote: I really think most of them who currently run assault and switch to scouts are going to be easy targets for us true ninjas. They will probably want something else changed to give them an advantage so watch for the QQ. If any of them complain that the scouts are underpowered after 1.8 I will stab them so hard like Chucky on crack. And anyone calling for a nerf on scouts after that should be ignored because they don't consider the fact that usually it's a professional scout that kills them most of the time. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
STEALTH HUNTER ZERO D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 203	Posted - 2014.03.20 06:30:00 - [7] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: STEALTH HUNTER ZERO wrote: I really think most of them who currently run assault and switch to scouts are going to be easy targets for us true ninjas. They will probably want something else changed to give them an advantage so watch for the QQ. Btw, your not safe I played MANY games with cloak, I should notice you. I really don't need cloak, its just a bonus. I hunt and flank people just fine atm.
Vitharr Foebane Living Like Larry Schwag 800	Posted - 2014.03.20 06:48:00 - [8] - Quote Would you consider this FOTM chasing xD http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/140/1274 Thanks CCP for making the HMG Heavy viable again :3 That's no excuse to slack off on releasing a heavy laser though =.=
jerrmy12 kahoalii 571	Posted - 2014.03.20 06:57:00 - [9] - Quote STEALTH HUNTER ZERO wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: STEALTH HUNTER ZERO wrote: I really think most of them who currently run assault and switch to scouts are going to be easy targets for us true ninjas. They will probably want something else changed to give them an advantage so watch for the QQ. Btw, your not safe I played MANY games with cloak, I should notice you. I really don't need cloak, its just a bonus. I hunt and flank people just fine atm. I do too But be prepared to be killed if my tv isnt crap Closed beta vet Logi, Heavy, Python, Scout. Dark souls 2 new game plus.
Lea Silencio 0uter.Heaven 1402	Posted - 2014.03.20 06:58:00 - [10] - Quote Lol@Scrambler Rifle spam. I must have missed the memo. So, when exactly did this happen? A better question would be when was this ever considered FoTM? Because I have NEVER seen them used by more than 3 players on each side and have NEVER seen them completely dominate a kill feed. PurificationGäó It's what I do. Amarr Victor

Jaghen Hagharr BLACK-GUARD Die Fremdenlegion 5	Posted - 2014.03.20 06:59:00 - [11] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: I too am afraid of these fotm bastard ruining our fun. They always attract the "nerf herders". This !! Rashness is the characteristic of youth, prudence that of mellowed age, and discretion the better part of valor. Cicero
Matticus Monk Ordus Trismegistus 1450	Posted - 2014.03.20 07:06:00 - [12] - Quote I openly morn the loss of the 1.7 scout. By bye my beloved hard-mode, the riff-raff is moving into the neighborhood. I may have to switch to using light frames or even militia light frames so the game doesn't loose it's taste for me. Even thinking about the unwashed masses soiling the scout suit gives me the heebs. Keep your 1.8, CCP. Keep your stupid cloak. But most of all, keep your new scrambler pistol stats. Double posting like a Kaiser.
Llast 326 An Arkhos 2500	Posted - 2014.03.20 07:12:00 - [13] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: I too am afraid of these fotm bastard ruining our fun. They always attract the "nerf herders". Look at the bright side if they get scouts nerfed most of us will already be used to hard mode so it won't make much difference to us. KRRROOOOOOM
Bojo The Mighty L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 3560	Posted - 2014.03.20 07:12:00 - [14] - Quote Message from CPM: After Hurricane 1.8 many medium frames have been displaced. A refugee center will be located in scouts and all displaced will be moved into scout neighborhoods. Bojo's Future Response: Scout neighborhood is now just a hood. 68 inches above sea level...
Aythadis Smith G I A N T General Tso's Alliance 137	Posted - 2014.03.20 07:17:00 - [15] - Quote Hearing notbing but brick tanked fits, how " it's unfair thay scouts get a cloak" to as far as people I know who were big time logi and heavies now going scout. Happy you're trying it, too bad you missed Aim Bot 514, shot gun and KBM getting anti aim assist, to insta gibb RR. When I see Nyain spamming scouts like tanks..... I was so happy for this update. Now I just want this buff to go away.
Rusty Shallows 1172	Posted - 2014.03.20 07:17:00 - [16] - Quote AfroSunshineY Consequence wrote: snip Thus, I propose a "True Scout" Grace Period. 1 Week after the release of 1.8 in which the true scouts get to bask in the glory of their finally balanced awesomeness. 1 Week in which the try hards stay at home and the true scouts can enjoy the bliss of curbstomping those proto logis of Uprising updates past. Try Hards Need Not Apply. How much are you willing to pay for my Minja to stay in his quarters? Then again he's a Minja not whatever a True Scout is so maybe this is moot. Here, have some candy and a Like. :-) Forums > Game
Yan Darn Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 360	Posted - 2014.03.20 08:24:00 - [17] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: I too am afraid of these fotm bastard ruining our fun. They always attract the "nerf herders". Yup, my concern too. Also, hopefully cloak won't have some mechanic that can be abused that will bait the FoTM chasers. No doubt the idea of cloaks are gonna attract some tourists - which is fine as long as they go back where they came from eventually... I've said before - tryhards won't have the patience to run scout when you have sentinels and commandos to choose from (the more short sighted ones will stick with slayer logis...). If they rely on cloaks they are gonna fail to get the kills/KDR that makes their OPness feel all tingly. The Ghost of Bravo
Racro 01 Arifistan 501st Knights of Leanbox INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 215	Posted - 2014.03.20 08:36:00 - [18] - Quote at level 5 scout the scout gk.o dosnt need a claok but iam going to use one for added benefit, by dosnt need a claok i mean hideing form enemy active/passive scans.
Wurm FOOD The Southern Legion League of Infamy 95	Posted - 2014.03.20 08:58:00 - [19] - Quote Will you resent me if I use Amarr scout (I only use Amarr suits)? If you do I really won't care, I'm just interested. Member of the Commando 6 All hail the Commando ak.0
Kira Takizawa uptown456 Proficiency V. 170	Posted - 2014.03.20 10:01:00 - [20] - Quote Vitharr Foebane wrote: Would you consider this FOTM chasing xD http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/140/1274 Keep that over there with those Amarrians they don't deserve scout suits... It's a disgrace to scouts. Story of the Merc

Kira Takizawa uptown456 Proficiency V. 170	Posted - 2014.03.20 10:02:00 - [21] - Quote Wurm FOOD wrote: Will you resent me if I use Amarr scout (I only use Amarr suits)? If you do I really won't care, I'm just interested. As long as you stick to the shadows you are welcomed. Just no super assault scout plz Story of the Merc
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 781	Posted - 2014.03.20 10:29:00 - [22] - Quote STEALTH HUNTER ZERO wrote: I really think most of them who currently run assault and switch to scouts are going to be easy targets for us true ninjas. They will probably want something else changed to give them an advantage so watch for the QQ. ^This, once they realize the suit alone won't help that much without the ways of combat we all learned the hard way, I am pretty sure most will move along to heavies either for the 10% damage boost (commando) or the incredible amount of HP (sentinel)
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES RISE of LEGION 1104	Posted - 2014.03.20 10:48:00 - [23] - Quote Dude just let people do what they do. Have fun and enjoy the game. Proper scouts will always shine. It was only last night that I played some of your corp. We ran into to Lightning, Neausea etc... and we got beat. I have had scout suits since chrome but I have to admit I have not really used them much at all in a long time. I'm trying to get back into stuff, just play around with fits and what ever takes my fancy but it is VERY CLEAR that a proper dedicated good scout will always beat a fotm scout so why worry? Investigate 9/11
Vesperz D3ATH CARD 59	Posted - 2014.03.20 11:09:00 - [24] - Quote Soooo.... anyone else run into a scout gk.0 completey stacked with armor plates and proto RR/CR? Tell me I'm seeing things, please. Live by honor, kill by stealth.
Piraten Hovnoret Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 424	Posted - 2014.03.20 12:25:00 - [25] - Quote My gallante scout is prob going to be FOTM That's makes me sad because it will be nerfed into oblivion when al the FOTM pimps starts to abuse it. It will be left by the FOTM mob like a used condom that you throw in thrash after bad sex. I will stay with it never the less. I am used to the hard mode that won't make me leave my beloved suit. To al the scouts out there you al have my respect, some of you are blowing me away in how god you are in the scout suit now and in the past. To the OP I can only say this you and your corp are one of very few that have its hart at the right place I would love to run scout with you al Regards and respect Some one that is still learning War never changes
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 2183	Posted - 2014.03.20 12:37:00 - [26] - Quote I be in your base scouting all your dudes.
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 3344	Posted - 2014.03.20 12:50:00 - [27] - Quote The bad thing is they'll dump ALL their SP into scouts and won't have much choice but to stick with it while crying for a respec on the forums. This is why I hate respecs. It ruins it for the few legit cases. Adapt or Die // Republic Lance Commander // @ReesNoturana
Yan Darn Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 363	Posted - 2014.03.20 18:15:00 - [28] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: Dude just let people do what they do. Have fun and enjoy the game. Proper scouts will always shine. It was only last night that I played some of your corp. We ran into to Lightning, Neausea etc... and we got beat. I have had scout suits since chrome but I have to admit I have not really used them much at all in a long time. I'm trying to get back into stuff, just play around with fits and what ever takes my fancy but it is VERY CLEAR that a proper dedicated good scout will always beat a fotm scout so why worry? It's not scout on 'scout' that is the problem for me. Current scouts know a lot of blues don't understand how scouts work and fall for basic scouty tactics over and over... I've even had to explain to my own squad, things like why I'm not moving directly with them when they attack that heavily defended point from the front (the fact you are logi with reps doesn't help me as much as you think...). With buffs and cloaks, your average FoTM /newbro scout will manage to get some 'annoying/cheap' kills in - add in the old scouts who can top leaderboards already - your average forum QQer who loses their pro-suit once too often to REs, shotguns and NK, will suddenly label scouts OP/Scrubby and the nerf whine will begin. I mean I remember being in a non-scout squad, the reds had a scout squad - between REs and ninja NK/Shotgun kills the city points were locked down. I tried explaining to my squad - we need to flux points and have someone cover the hacker. They can see us (...them) on passives relatively easily and we won't see them on our radar - we have to assume they are always ready to strike at us...oh and don't chase them around corners... The responses I got? 'Thats ***** cheap...' 'Wait - so they will just hide until we have our backs to them? Gaaaay' '! That guy is just running up to people and knifing them!' 'I know right - I mean learn some *** gun game' '*** cheap ass ******** just knifed me, same cheap ass ******** who got me with that remote - *** scrubs abusing broken *!' And that is now* before the buffs we've been waiting for. I fully expect to receive hatemail about cloaks even if I wasn't using them. The tryhards wont have the nerve to stick with it, but they may **** off other tryhards enough to cause detrimental QQ. People hate what they don't understand. The Ghost of Bravo
PARKOUR PRACTIONER Reapers' Assailant 963	Posted - 2014.03.20 18:21:00 - [29] - Quote I'm a scout, just not a good one. I still haven't found my playstyle yet. People who do are usually the envy of those who only watch Parkour involves seeing one's environment in a new way
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 860	Posted - 2014.03.20 18:23:00 - [30] - Quote Of course, none of you "true scouts" will be using the new cloaks lest you be compared to those you wish to denigrate.

Murt Lesp Hydra's Wraiths 47	Posted - 2014.03.20 18:29:00 - [31] - Quote Currently proto Gal scout but I really shouldn't have gone past Adv. I plan on getting standard for all 4 and finding my true niche. KN, SCP, RE, SMG, and all manner of remorseless close quarters weapons will be my greatest allies. I look forward to seeing you all on the battlefield Their defenses don't include a drop from maximum dropship altitude. 6 Mercs dropping at full speed out of no where.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 7525	Posted - 2014.03.20 18:35:00 - [32] - Quote Yan Darn wrote: CommanderBolt wrote: Dude just let people do what they do. Have fun and enjoy the game. Proper scouts will always shine. It was only last night that I played some of your corp. We ran into to Lightning, Neausea etc... and we got beat. I have had scout suits since chrome but I have to admit I have not really used them much at all in a long time. I'm trying to get back into stuff, just play around with fits and what ever takes my fancy but it is VERY CLEAR that a proper dedicated good scout will always beat a fotm scout so why worry? It's not scout on 'scout' that is the problem for me. Current scouts know a lot of blues don't understand how scouts work and fall for basic scouty tactics over and over... I've even had to explain to my own squad, things like why I'm not moving directly with them when they attack that heavily defended point from the front (the fact you are logi with reps doesn't help me as much as you think...). With buffs and cloaks, your average FoTM /newbro scout will manage to get some 'annoying/cheap' kills in - add in the old scouts who can top leaderboards already - your average forum QQer who loses their pro-suit once too often to REs, shotguns and NK, will suddenly label scouts OP/Scrubby and the nerf whine will begin. I mean I remember being in a non-scout squad, the reds had a scout squad - between REs and ninja NK/Shotgun kills the city points were locked down. I tried explaining to my squad - we need to flux points and have someone cover the hacker. They can see us (...them) on passives relatively easily and we won't see them on our radar - we have to assume they are always ready to strike at us...oh and don't chase them around corners... The responses I got? 'Thats ***** cheap...' 'Wait - so they will just hide until we have our backs to them? Gaaaay' '! That guy is just running up to people and knifing them!' 'I know right - I mean learn some *** gun game' '*** cheap ass ******** just knifed me, same cheap ass ******** who got me with that remote - *** scrubs abusing broken *!' And that is now* before the buffs we've been waiting for. I fully expect to receive hatemail about cloaks even if I wasn't using them. The tryhards wont have the nerve to stick with it, but they may ** off other tryhards enough to cause detrimental QQ. People hate what they don't understand. And that's the problem I have with QQers these days. I just call them "nerf herders". If they don't understand it, they want it nerfed. I just hope to dear sweet baby Jesus that CCP has the balls to just ignore those QQers this time and just let the scouts enjoy their buff for once in our lives. Some guy once told me that if scouts like me are already that good, it's because the scout suits are fine as it is. But I disagreed. It's not that the suits are fine. Far from it, the suits that we have now are currently gimped until 1.8 comes out. It's the very fact that these suits were so gimped that scouts like me got good with it. We were forced to adapt in ways we didn't expect to adapt. Try being a master of fighting someone with one hand tied behind your back, blindfolded, with one leg missing and you're being constantly pelted with paint balls. Eventually you will get good at it as you work around your weaknesses and enhance your other senses, but you're still limited because you're tied, blinded, have only one leg and paint balls are being shot at you like a bad scene from Jackass. And now, finally we're free to use both hands, remove the blindfold, have both legs, and not be able to effectively dodge those pesky paint balls because we have been heavily trained and conditioned to do so. Anyone who assumes the scouts will be OP at that point just simply lacks the understanding that's not the suit that makes us OP but our experience. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor**
Dingleburt Bangledack PiZzA DuDeS 42	Posted - 2014.03.20 18:36:00 - [33] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: I too am afraid of these fotm bastard ruining our fun. They always attract the "nerf herders". This is what I'm afraid of. By no means have I endured hard mode as long as some of the scouting greats (such as he whom I've just quoted ) but I finally tried the scout about 5 or 6 months ago and realised it's what I should've picked back in Open Beta. I'm just worried that QQers will get Scouts nerfed shortly after the love they've needed for so very long.
Enji Elric Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 182	Posted - 2014.03.20 18:37:00 - [34] - Quote AfroSunshineY Consequence wrote: o7 Fellow Scouts. Many of us have been playing Dust on hard mode for more than 1 year at this point. We've stayed true to the way of the scout and endured the wrath of the Mass Driver, the TacAR, Scrambler Rifle spam, and now, of course, Rail Rifle and Combat Rifle wielding heavy suits (because that's fair, right?). Come 1.8, some of our concerns - nay - almost all of our concerns are being addressed. Unfortunately, our new shiny suits will now, for the first time since Chromosome attract the average Joe Schmo just looking for a high kill count. You know the type. FotM players - players addicted to the mild dopaminergic high emanating from their nucleus accumbens that they get from "owning" some new player in a militia fit while safely in their sentinel ak.0 with 1400 eHP and a Kaalakiota RR. I don't like these people. And their coming for our new suits. Thus, I propose a "True Scout" Grace Period. 1 Week after the release of 1.8 in which the true scouts get to bask in the glory of their finally balanced awesomeness. 1 Week in which the try hards stay at home and the true scouts can enjoy the bliss of curbstomping those proto logis of Uprising updates past. Try Hards Need Not Apply. sorry i one shot you with my MD... everything level 5 as well... Edit: i will still do so in 1.8
Murt Lesp Hydra's Wraiths 47	Posted - 2014.03.20 18:40:00 - [35] - Quote Dingleburt Bangledack wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: I too am afraid of these fotm bastard ruining our fun. They always attract the "nerf herders". This is what I'm afraid of. By no means have I endured hard mode as long as some of the scouting greats (such as he whom I've just quoted ) but I finally tried the scout about 5 or 6 months ago and realised it's what I should've picked back in Open Beta. I'm just worried that QQers will get Scouts nerfed shortly after the love they've needed for so very long. As a rookie (Haven't really scouted since Open Beta) I bow to your abilities. I've adapted somewhat, but I finally understand how scouts truly work. Ambush and mobility. Their defenses don't include a drop from maximum dropship altitude. 6 Mercs dropping at full speed out of no where.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 7528	Posted - 2014.03.20 18:41:00 - [36] - Quote Dingleburt Bangledack wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: I too am afraid of these fotm bastard ruining our fun. They always attract the "nerf herders". This is what I'm afraid of. By no means have I endured hard mode as long as some of the scouting greats (such as he whom I've just quoted ) but I finally tried the scout about 5 or 6 months ago and realised it's what I should've picked back in Open Beta. I'm just worried that QQers will get Scouts nerfed shortly after the love they've needed for so very long. I say let's have all the scout masters take a week-long break at the beginning of 1.8 and watch all the FoTM players complain that scouts are useless and see the assault/logi/sentinal/commandos point out how easy it is to still kill scouts. Then we all come in at the end of the week and start showing everyone how the pros do it. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
PARKOUR PRACTIONER Reapers' Assailant 963	Posted - 2014.03.20 18:43:00 - [37] - Quote Sig, read it. People who do are usually the envy of those who only watch I'm a scout, and a logi and a 'assault.' Proto Cal Frame
Murt Lesp Hydra's Wraiths 47	Posted - 2014.03.20 18:44:00 - [38] - Quote I need to ask the masters about the Amarr Scout For a Standard level scout, I plan on giving him a Kin Cat, a Cardiac Reg, a Profile Dampener, and a Precision enhancer. Flux nades, smg, and SCP. I can max all involved skills by the way. Comments? Their defenses don't include a drop from maximum dropship altitude. 6 Mercs dropping at full speed out of no where.
CRNWLLC Screwy Rabbit ULC 132	Posted - 2014.03.20 18:47:00 - [39] - Quote As infantry, I pretty much only snipe and scout. Scouting will still be real fun, since I doubt most FotM chasers will be playing the role intelligently, and if these suits end up getting spammed by lamers, I still have my trusty charge SR to OHK them from across the map! That's one thing that's unchanged by the nerf to damage mods: my sniper fit will still one-shot any scout, unless they're a proto stacking duel-tank mods. So I say, bring 'em on! My other dropsuit is a Python.
knight of 6 SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1611	Posted - 2014.03.20 18:52:00 - [40] - Quote fresh meat for the grinder. by speccing a scout they are giving us a grace period. it takes a little while to get used to having no ehp. to put it poetically GÇ£Ah you think darkness is your ally? You merely adopted the dark. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see the light until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but blinding!GÇ¥ ~ Bane I personally can't wait for the "we need a respec ccp, cause the scout is broken" posts. GÇ£Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for I am dampened.GÇ¥ Ko6 scout,

Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 7533	Posted - 2014.03.20 18:54:00 - [41] - Quote Murt Lesp wrote: I need to ask the masters about the Amarr Scout For a Standard level scout, I plan on giving him a Kin Cat, a Cardiac Reg, a Profile Dampener, and a Precision enhancer. Flux nades, smg, and SCP. I can max all involved skills by the way. Comments? With that kind of setup, here are your stats assuming all fitted items are basic level with maxed out skills. Stats in [ ] are stats shown after bonuses applied. CPU 82.3 / 223.125 gF PG 19.75 / 45.9375 kW Shield 75 HP Armor 212.5 HP No icon eHP 287.5 HP Shield Recharge Rate 30 HP/s Shield Recharge Delay 4 s Shield Dep. Rec. Delay 6 s Armor Repair Rate 0 HP/s Movement Speed 5.25 m/s Strafe Speed 4.73 m/s Sprint Speed 7.72 [8.12] m/s Stamina 360.94 [460.2] Stamina Recovery Rate 52.5 [81.38] /s Scan Profile 31.5 [26.78] dB Scan Precision 36 [32.4] dB Scan Radius 30 m Melee Damage 80 HP Hack Speed Factor 1.31 Frame Class 0 Dropsuit Race 0 Dropsuit Role 0 High-Slot Modules 1 Small Capacity Granades 1 Equipment 2 Sidearm Weapons 1 Low-Slot Modules 3 Light Weapons 1 http://www.protofits.com/fittings I'm not sure about you're profile, but then again hiding is not the Amarr scout's specialty. And if you're going with the Precision enhancer, you can take advantage of that by replacing either the kin cat or profile dampener with a range amplifier. Considering that the Amarr suit seems like the bastard child of the entire scout line up, I'll need more research into this. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
Murt Lesp Hydra's Wraiths 48	Posted - 2014.03.20 18:58:00 - [42] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Murt Lesp wrote: I need to ask the masters about the Amarr Scout For a Standard level scout, I plan on giving him a Kin Cat, a Cardiac Reg, a Profile Dampener, and a Precision enhancer. Flux nades, smg, and SCP. I can max all involved skills by the way. Comments? With that kind of setup, here are your stats assuming all fitted items are basic level with maxed out skills. Stats in [ ] are stats shown after bonuses applied. CPU 82.3 / 223.125 gF PG 19.75 / 45.9375 kW Shield 75 HP Armor 212.5 HP No icon eHP 287.5 HP Shield Recharge Rate 30 HP/s Shield Recharge Delay 4 s Shield Dep. Rec. Delay 6 s Armor Repair Rate 0 HP/s Movement Speed 5.25 m/s Strafe Speed 4.73 m/s Sprint Speed 7.72 [8.12] m/s Stamina 360.94 [460.2] Stamina Recovery Rate 52.5 [81.38] /s Scan Profile 31.5 [26.78] dB Scan Precision 36 [32.4] dB Scan Radius 30 m Melee Damage 80 HP Hack Speed Factor 1.31 Frame Class 0 Dropsuit Race 0 Dropsuit Role 0 High-Slot Modules 1 Small Capacity Granades 1 Equipment 2 Sidearm Weapons 1 Low-Slot Modules 3 Light Weapons 1 http://www.protofits.com/fittings I'm not sure about you're profile, but then again hiding is not the Amarr scout's specialty. And if you're going with the Precision enhancer, you can take advantage of that by replacing either the kin cat or profile dampener with a range amplifier. Considering that the Amarr suit seems like the bastard child of the entire scout line up, I'll need more research into this. Bows This is far more than I was expecting. My plan is to use the stamina boost to the fullest and buffing sprint speed for a dual bonus. Profile dampening will help with unskilled or unequipped foes. Range amplification will be buffed passively as well. As I said in a previous post, I plan on testing all standard level scouts to find my niche and this is the main area of focus. I greatly appreciate this post Their defenses don't include a drop from maximum dropship altitude. 6 Mercs dropping at full speed out of no where.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 7533	Posted - 2014.03.20 18:58:00 - [43] - Quote knight of 6 wrote: fresh meat for the grinder. by speccing a scout they are giving us a grace period. it takes a little while to get used to having no ehp. to put it poetically GÇ£Ah you think darkness is your ally? You merely adopted the dark. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see the light until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but blinding!GÇ¥ ~ Bane I personally can't wait for the "we need a respec ccp, cause the scout is broken" posts. I like my version better. GÇ£Ah you think the redline is your ally? You merely adopted the line. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see the safe zone until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but blinding!GÇ¥ ~ Bane Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
axis alpha Red Star. EoN. 273	Posted - 2014.03.20 18:58:00 - [44] - Quote What if I wanna be cal scout cuz my cal ass is ruined? I even maxed all my core skills n junk We won't follow the deceiver. You let this be your warning. The path of the wretched is burning..
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 7533	Posted - 2014.03.20 19:01:00 - [45] - Quote axis alpha wrote: What if I wanna be cal scout cuz my cal ass is ruined? I even maxed all my core skills n junk If you maxed out your core skills, then even the standard cal scout will be good to go. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 2811	Posted - 2014.03.20 19:01:00 - [46] - Quote You will get your grace period. The FOTM crowd will go Heavy first, because Rock is Cool! It will be a couple of weeks before they start to realize that Paper beats Rock, and they all start switching to Scout. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Cenex Langly D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 669	Posted - 2014.03.20 19:08:00 - [47] - Quote STEALTH HUNTER ZERO wrote: I really think most of them who currently run assault and switch to scouts are going to be easy targets for us true ninjas. They will probably want something else changed to give them an advantage so watch for the QQ. What about those players like myself that simply use the scout suit only at the beginning of a game to drop uplinks. Am I a FOTM person? Oh, I forgot, I'm covering all bases and getting a proto of each suit, Assault, Logi, Scout, Commando and Sentinal... I'm just an bad-ass! lol Newb
AfroSunshineY Consequence R 0 N 1 N 233	Posted - 2014.03.20 19:10:00 - [48] - Quote Murt Lesp wrote: I need to ask the masters about the Amarr Scout For a Standard level scout, I plan on giving him a Kin Cat, a Cardiac Reg, a Profile Dampener, and a Precision enhancer. Flux nades, smg, and SCP. I can max all involved skills by the way. Comments? We'll, I'm no scout expert really. I'm dedicated to the role, but I'm still a scrub (but I'm trying to be the best scrub out there!). I refuse to use anything above a standard scout suit these days - just not worth getting merked for no reason. I also rarely tank my suits at all. I go for full mobility or scanning. I'm simply a purist. That being said, I have to say the Amarr scout was shafted a bit. If the stamina bonus were higher (such that at level 5 their bonuses equalled a complex reg, much like the way the other scouts basically get implicit complex modules) it would actually be the perfect suit, because you could run about 400 m with complex kin cats, you could jump for ages and you'd generally own. That being said, I agree with most that the Amarr Assault will probably be best as a light assault with a cloak. Maybe 2 armor plate, a green a red and two shield mods - we'll tanked, but still mobile and stamina up the wazoo to make up for your slightly slower speed. Then your cloak will probably be your best friend for direct confrontation (another thing CCP could do to balance the Amarr scout would be to give them either a cool down bonus for the cloak or let them use it for an extended period - the latter matches very well with the suit's journeyman feel)
Cenex Langly D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 670	Posted - 2014.03.20 19:11:00 - [49] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Murt Lesp wrote: I need to ask the masters about the Amarr Scout For a Standard level scout, I plan on giving him a Kin Cat, a Cardiac Reg, a Profile Dampener, and a Precision enhancer. Flux nades, smg, and SCP. I can max all involved skills by the way. Comments? With that kind of setup, here are your stats assuming all fitted items are basic level with maxed out skills. Stats in [ ] are stats shown after bonuses applied. ... Scan Profile 31.5 [26.78] dB Scan Precision 36 [32.4] dB Scan Radius 30 m http://www.protofits.com/fittings I'm not sure about you're profile, but then again hiding is not the Amarr scout's specialty. And if you're going with the Precision enhancer, you can take advantage of that by replacing either the kin cat or profile dampener with a range amplifier. Considering that the Amarr suit seems like the bastard child of the entire scout line up, I'll need more research into this. If I recall correctly the Duvolle Quantum Scanner (25 second scanner) is 24 or 25dB. You would want to get an Enhanced Profile dampener (minimum) in order to beat this scanner. It is proto level and lasts the longest. The only other scanner that will be able to pick you up would be the Flux scanner at something like 15dB. So definitely (if anything) get the adv profile dampener so you can beat this scanner (right now it's the most used though things may change after 1.8). Newb
AfroSunshineY Consequence R 0 N 1 N 233	Posted - 2014.03.20 19:15:00 - [50] - Quote Cenex Langly wrote: STEALTH HUNTER ZERO wrote: I really think most of them who currently run assault and switch to scouts are going to be easy targets for us true ninjas. They will probably want something else changed to give them an advantage so watch for the QQ. What about those players like myself that simply use the scout suit only at the beginning of a game to drop uplinks. Am I a FOTM person? Oh, I forgot, I'm covering all bases and getting a proto of each suit, Assault, Logi, Scout, Commando and Sentinal... I'm just an bad-ass! lol It's fine to use the scout for that role.......though you're missing the beauty of the suit. Scouting is a mindset if you ask me. Seriously, I started playing this game last march and I can count the number of times I've used other suits on my right hand (exaggerating obviously, but still). I and others continued to persever despite our glaring disadvantages in both close and long range combat. Eventually it came to the point that the only way to be a competitive scout was to brick tank - thus defeating the purpose of the suit altogether.

Murt Lesp Hydra's Wraiths 48	Posted - 2014.03.20 19:16:00 - [51] - Quote This advice I'm getting is perfect. Pros and Cons weighed equally. No QQing, no buff demanding, no nerf demanding, just outright advice. Scout players are certainly the lords of the game. I suggest we use standard level basic light frames so we can still play and rub in a bit more salt before we truly punish the FOTM Their defenses don't include a drop from maximum dropship altitude. 6 Mercs dropping at full speed out of no where.
pegasis prime BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1598	Posted - 2014.03.20 19:17:00 - [52] - Quote I'm actually sitting hear clapping my hands in excitement about my Caldari scout and mag sec . Proud Gunlogi pilot and forge gunner since August 2012. I fought and bled for the State on Caldari prime.
Cenex Langly D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 670	Posted - 2014.03.20 19:20:00 - [53] - Quote AfroSunshineY Consequence wrote: Cenex Langly wrote: STEALTH HUNTER ZERO wrote: I really think most of them who currently run assault and switch to scouts are going to be easy targets for us true ninjas. They will probably want something else changed to give them an advantage so watch for the QQ. What about those players like myself that simply use the scout suit only at the beginning of a game to drop uplinks. Am I a FOTM person? Oh, I forgot, I'm covering all bases and getting a proto of each suit, Assault, Logi, Scout, Commando and Sentinal... I'm just an bad-ass! lol It's fine to use the scout for that role.......though you're missing the beauty of the suit. Scouting is a mindset if you ask me. Seriously, I started playing this game last march and I can count the number of times I've used other suits on my right hand (exaggerating obviously, but still). I and others continued to persever despite our glaring disadvantages in both close and long range combat. Eventually it came to the point that the only way to be a competitive scout was to brick tank - thus defeating the purpose of the suit altogether. Yeah, you have the mindset for scout, I've been a born and raised Logistics since January 2013! It's a very difficult practice to break away from, I only supplement my deficiencies (killing) with adding some versatility such as faster uplinks at the start! lol Newb
Dingleburt Bangledack PiZzA DuDeS 42	Posted - 2014.03.20 19:20:00 - [54] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Dingleburt Bangledack wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: I too am afraid of these fotm bastard ruining our fun. They always attract the "nerf herders". This is what I'm afraid of. By no means have I endured hard mode as long as some of the scouting greats (such as he whom I've just quoted ) but I finally tried the scout about 5 or 6 months ago and realised it's what I should've picked back in Open Beta. I'm just worried that QQers will get Scouts nerfed shortly after the love they've needed for so very long. I say let's have all the scout masters take a week-long break at the beginning of 1.8 and watch all the FoTM players complain that scouts are useless and see the assault/logi/sentinal/commandos point out how easy it is to still kill scouts. Then we all come in at the end of the week and start showing everyone how the pros do it. I'm nowhere near master yet, but I'm all for this. I already have a blast showing people that their EHP means nothing to me. Can't wait to show the FOTM crowd how the Scout suit is supposed to be used.
Murt Lesp Hydra's Wraiths 49	Posted - 2014.03.20 19:25:00 - [55] - Quote Dingleburt Bangledack wrote: I'm nowhere near master yet, but I'm all for this. I already have a blast showing people that their EHP means nothing to me. Can't wait to show the FOTM crowd how the Scout suit is supposed to be used. Standard Light suits for further salt Their defenses don't include a drop from maximum dropship altitude. 6 Mercs dropping at full speed out of no where.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 12370	Posted - 2014.03.20 19:39:00 - [56] - Quote As someone who wrecks with an advanced scout suit with no relevant skills raised, I have begun to question if scouts were ever indeed "hard mode" Videos / Fiction Closed Beta Vet; Incubus Pilot
mollerz 2817	Posted - 2014.03.20 19:50:00 - [57] - Quote AfroSunshineY Consequence wrote: It's fine to use the scout for that role.......though you're missing the beauty of the suit. Scouting is a mindset if you ask me. Seriously, I started playing this game last march and I can count the number of times I've used other suits on my right hand (exaggerating obviously, but still). I and others continued to persever despite our glaring disadvantages in both close and long range combat. Eventually it came to the point that the only way to be a competitive scout was to brick tank - thus defeating the purpose of the suit altogether. THE-UGLY and I had a big fight with you the other day over an objective. You are a Shotty Ginja right? Good Fight o7 was fun. You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
One Eyed King Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 707	Posted - 2014.03.20 20:47:00 - [58] - Quote Murt Lesp wrote: This advice I'm getting is perfect. Pros and Cons weighed equally. No QQing, no buff demanding, no nerf demanding, just outright advice. Scout players are certainly the lords of the game. I suggest we use standard level basic light frames so we can still play and rub in a bit more salt before we truly punish the FOTM If you haven't already, you should stop by the barbershop located in the locker room. Its more of the same there. We would love to have you. Looking for the scout hangout?
Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 1020	Posted - 2014.03.20 21:36:00 - [59] - Quote Kira Takizawa wrote: Wurm FOOD wrote: Will you resent me if I use Amarr scout (I only use Amarr suits)? If you do I really won't care, I'm just interested. As long as you stick to the shadows you are welcomed. Just no super assault scout plz I don't think super assault scout will be any good unless you have all the "scout skills" up. I haven't tried to fit it yet in game, obviously, but I'm pretty sure if I tank out my Gal scout, even accounting for one more low and high slots. It will be about the speed of my minmatar assault with a little less EHP. So I'll probably still have an assault version of gal scout along with my regular scout fit, basically so I can either armor tank assault (gal scout), shield tank assault (min assault), or play "true scout" with my gal scout. Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 7542	Posted - 2014.03.20 21:55:00 - [60] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: As someone who wrecks with an advanced scout suit with no relevant skills raised, I have begun to question if scouts were ever indeed "hard mode" Run that same scout out in the open on Tankus Peak with only a knife and SMG. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor



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