Learn how to work together and they are much, much easier, if I can do it with a PLC and mines/nades then it can be done. Everything shouldn't be able to be soloed, this is a team based game where good teamwork wins. HAVs are not that OP if at all, you people are just lazy and trained by other FPS games to Billy Bad Ass and that isn't how DUST works. Teamwork is the great equalizer. I still haven't seen a HAV that can survive a coordinated attack by a good squad/team that is skilled into AV.

Don't really take this personally, but you can go and insert something long enough down your throat to dislodge whatever stick is up your backside.

As a CPM, you have failed to communicate to CCP the necessity of getting Vehicle/AV changes put into this patch, which is already long overdue.

Don't get mad at the playerbase because the people you chose to interface are incompetent, and don't try to adopt and sort of holier than thou attitude with the people who are kept in the dark by CCP.

Considering that CCP made a big stink about Sony working with them to shorten turn around on certification, and given that that certification process used to get done in 21 days for Dice, it is not unreasonable to think that 1.8 was code locked this month, and content locked last month.

What is funny about that is that CCP had their plans in place to nerf damage mods and nades some months ago AND SAID NOTHING. If they just dropped this on you as well, then shame on them.

You should be grovelling right now, because you have not done your job for the players. CCP should be glad that they have you to front this out for them, becuase they are going to go into damage control and STFU until fanfest. Which is pathetic.

They thought this out, didn't ask for feedback, and clearly don't care what the players think about these changes.

If this is the way Rouge does business, expect this game to hit Glitter standards of quality real soon.

Why does this not surprise me at all? And "bigger fires"? Like what? Introducing the 100% militia fuel injector back into the game? Or removing Jihad LAV's which are like the only straw for infantry to kill tanks? Or are they busy with Eve adjusting the ship spinning inside a station? Ya know what? Give swarms their old 330 damage, 5 round clip and quicker lock on back. Give forgeguns their old damage and charge up time back and we could live with the current situation for a while. Buff the proto plasma cannon to 1700HP damage.

Much worse if not fixed by patch day will be quite a bit of complaints about it as it becomes apparent.

They can still delay the release of 1.8...but now I am curious

Talks for a hotfix is ongoing. This is the one issue I keep slapping them with.

Rest of the hotfix talk is going to depend what breaks on patch day.

IWS would it be possible to suggest hotfixing AV damage models back to their values in 1.6?

Perhaps that could be a short term fix or even a potential test of vehicle/AV balance.

They can still delay the release of 1.8...but now I am curious

IWS would it be possible to suggest hotfixing AV damage models back to their values in 1.6?

Perhaps that could be a short term fix or even a potential test of vehicle/AV balance.

SDE is the only clue Ill give.

Remote_explosive_sticky_0?

Talks for a hotfix is ongoing. This is the one issue I keep slapping them with.

Rest of the hotfix talk is going to depend what breaks on patch day.

Nope.

Nope, Tanks are going to be popping left and right. Scouts with cloaks and REs are the new AV role. Yes, it's a little limited, but will likely do the job of killing tanks fast.

Nope.

I seen REs work on moving tanks to great effect. Specially when the next AV guy hits him.

Talks for a hotfix is ongoing. This is the one issue I keep slapping them with.

Rest of the hotfix talk is going to depend what breaks on patch day.

Learn how to work together and they are much, much easier, if I can do it with a PLC and mines/nades then it can be done. Everything shouldn't be able to be soloed, this is a team based game where good teamwork wins. HAVs are not that OP if at all, you people are just lazy and trained by other FPS games to Billy Bad Ass and that isn't how DUST works. Teamwork is the great equalizer. I still haven't seen a HAV that can survive a coordinated attack by a good squad/team that is skilled into AV.

-SEPERATE THE TURRET FROM THE DRIVER

When it takes 3 guys or more to kill a tank then it should only be logical that 1 guy is responsible for driving and the other 1 in charge of the turret. Seems fair to me cause it requires TEAMWORK.

We say CCP didn't listen because there are easy changes that would help the AV and there are more complex changes such as changing mechanics or physics.

Making HAVs more expensive (ISK) and/or increasing damage of Swarms and AV grenades should be as easy as updating a database value. Of course you would still need to have proper tests but this is nothing compared to the testing required due to the implementation of new features which usually originate new bugs.

Nope.

I was first

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1913376#post1913376

...and I will sit aside this river of tears and watch.