I love it when people say nerf the hmg. You know what happens then whiny medium suits??? RR cr and other light weapons on heavies. You get one or the other medium suits do you wanna nerf the hmg and let heavies run rampant at all ranges, or a cqc or av killer.

Hmg need thier rif buuf reduced or removed
In 1.8 they will be too op and impossible to ever solo and force you to lose, say a 150k suit.

Hmg need thier rif buuf reduced or removed
In 1.8 they will be too op and impossible to ever solo and force you to lose, say a 150k suit.

That's the heavy in any mmo you will need more than one person to kill it. Or a truly skilled individual.

Its just unfair that there is no way to counter one exept another heavy, which is why tanks are op, a proto suit should be abke to defend himself or you will never see a protosuit ever again, its too much isk to insta lose, my hmg is too op atm I can kill proto galogis...

Ps
Who said rail rifle....

It should take at least 2 clips with a rail rifle to kill us heavys...

jerrmy go away.

heavies with light weapons are a joke.
always have been.

HMG is OP because any decent heavy instantly melts any suit in the game in his range, combine with LAV and the only way you're countered is a blaster tank, or by multiple infantry.

pretty sure that's the definition of OP-
skyrocketed DPS compared to all other weapons.
Much higher ehp.
the only flaw(speed and range) being easily worked around and abused.

I've thought hmgs were OP ever since the damage buff, then they got the extra 400rpm.
Now the TTK with an HMG is instantaneous on any suit except max tanked heavies, which are still melted in less than a second and a half.

The problem is simply that the dps is too damn high, let heavies be tanky, but reduce dps by a substantial amount, and buff the range of the heavy accordingly, it shouldn't HAVE to abuse an LAV on an open map, and it shouldn't be CERTAIN INSTA death in CQC.

I love it when people say nerf the hmg. You know what happens then whiny medium suits??? RR cr and other light weapons on heavies. You get one or the other medium suits do you wanna nerf the hmg and let heavies run rampant at all ranges, or a cqc or av killer.

heavies with light weapons are a joke.
always have been.

HMG is OP because any decent heavy instantly melts any suit in the game in his range, combine with LAV and the only way you're countered is a blaster tank, or by multiple infantry.

pretty sure that's the definition of OP-
skyrocketed DPS compared to all other weapons.
Much higher ehp.
the only flaw(speed and range) being easily worked around and abused.

I've thought hmgs were OP ever since the damage buff, then they got the extra 400rpm.
Now the TTK with an HMG is instantaneous on any suit except max tanked heavies, which are still melted in less than a second and a half.(count to a second and a half, is that a lot? no, its still pretty much that you cant turn around.)

The problem is simply that the dps is too damn high, let heavies be tanky, but reduce dps by a substantial amount, and buff the range of the heavy accordingly, it shouldn't HAVE to abuse an LAV on an open map, and it shouldn't be CERTAIN INSTA death in CQC.

That's the heavy in any mmo you will need more than one person to kill it. Or a truly skilled individual.

Well Jeremy if you are that close to a heavy your wrong. And heavy's the same as tanks yea we heavies have a god mode hardner we can use and a gun that can 3 shot infantry from 5-150m. 30m is our range that's it if you have skill you can take down the heavy. But back on point if you nerf the hmg you will see alot ALOT more light weapons I warn you

Not true. I played my share of MMOs and dps/glass cannon usu have no problem soloing heavies. In fact heavies are supposed to be easy pickings when they are alone. So it begs the question what MMOs do you play?

Most fights are cqc

I only want the rof buff reduced or gone, heavies are the tanky ones commandos are dps guys

It should be an insta death if they shoot your skull with a shotgun, but because CCP is a derp...

I swear no one in the game knows what it means to adapt, t is just a bunch of QQ.

Wrong look at most maps they are open wide open. Only a few objectives are heavy friendly

They will be instadeath on most maos
Which will meant you will see nothing but heavies and ahotguns and maybe rwmotes because of its ability to tank and dps everything

They will be instadeath on most maos
Which will meant you will see nothing but heavies and ahotguns and maybe rwmotes because of its ability to tank and dps everything

Did I ever say the heavies were solo? I always have a logi on my ass sometimes 5 and not by choice

MOST?!?!? No, barley ANY maps are heavy freindly. Most maps are wide open and have little to no cover, any decent shot with any med - long range weapon will kill ANY heavy/sentinel.

The HMG hate comes from people who are too ignorant to understand that unlike their rifles, it is simply not possible to apply 100% of HMG theoretical DPS past 10m, and the problem is exponentially worse at 20, 30, 40m. The "optimal" range may be 30m or whatever, but it is literally impossible to land more than 50% of rounds on target past 20m because of dispersion... thus giving HMG similar real world DPS to rifles. Except we have to expend 2-4x as many rounds to get that same DPS, can't carry our own nanohives to replenish all that ammo we have to use to get that DPS, have the hitbox of a tank, a larger scan profile than a tank, the absolute worst scan range/precision, move slower than turret emplacements, etc, etc, etc.

But hey, that HMG is super overpowered because of that paper DPS that can only be applied in the real world at sub-10m. Try using the damn gun before you cry about how OP it is, most of you people have no clue how difficult it actually is to play HMG heavy - and I don't mean on the two maps or the one or two points on other maps where the HMG shines, I mean on every map, every game, all the time.

People need to get over medium suit + ________ rifle not being the end all in every single situation. Deal with it. HTFU. Adapt or die. Whatever you want to say about it, just please, shut the hell up. It's not going to be what you people think - people who were **** heavies in 1.7 are going to be **** heavies in 1.8, and if your only tactic for taking out a heavy is try to face him up inside HMG optimal with a ____ rifle, you're going to lose - just like you do now, just like you're supposed to. Strategy. Tactics. This isn't Zerg 514, and there's a reason that "standing in front of the enemy and shooting at each other" was phased out as a military strategy sometime during the civil war.

See back in chromosome heavies had range dps and tank. Guess what assaults and scouts still were their. Your point is invalid

Mostof the time I play there are many cqc areas....again doeant mean the hmg gets to be op in cqc...