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jerrmy12 kahoalii
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Posted - 2014.03.18 02:34:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote:I love it when people say nerf the hmg. You know what happens then whiny medium suits??? RR cr and other light weapons on heavies. You get one or the other medium suits do you wanna nerf the hmg and let heavies run rampant at all ranges, or a cqc or av killer. Hmg need thier rif buuf reduced or removed In 1.8 they will be too op and impossible to ever solo and force you to lose, say a 150k suit.
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Posted - 2014.03.18 02:38:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Jacques Cayton II wrote:I love it when people say nerf the hmg. You know what happens then whiny medium suits??? RR cr and other light weapons on heavies. You get one or the other medium suits do you wanna nerf the hmg and let heavies run rampant at all ranges, or a cqc or av killer. Hmg need thier rif buuf reduced or removed In 1.8 they will be too op and impossible to ever solo and force you to lose, say a 150k suit. That's the heavy in any mmo you will need more than one person to kill it. Or a truly skilled individual. Its just unfair that there is no way to counter one exept another heavy, which is why tanks are op, a proto suit should be abke to defend himself or you will never see a protosuit ever again, its too much isk to insta lose, my hmg is too op atm I can kill proto galogis...
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Posted - 2014.03.18 02:39:00 -
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Tectonic Fusion wrote:It should take at least 2 clips with a rail rifle to kill us heavys... Who said I want to solo with a rr? I just want a fair cance to defend myself Drcrease price of all infantry gear would fix it.
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Posted - 2014.03.18 02:40:00 -
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TunRa wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Jacques Cayton II wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Jacques Cayton II wrote:I love it when people say nerf the hmg. You know what happens then whiny medium suits??? RR cr and other light weapons on heavies. You get one or the other medium suits do you wanna nerf the hmg and let heavies run rampant at all ranges, or a cqc or av killer. Hmg need thier rif buuf reduced or removed In 1.8 they will be too op and impossible to ever solo and force you to lose, say a 150k suit. That's the heavy in any mmo you will need more than one person to kill it. Or a truly skilled individual. Its just unfair that there is no way to counter one exept another heavy, which is why tanks are op, a proto suit should be abke to defend himself or you will never see a protosuit ever again, its too much isk to insta lose, my hmg is too op atm I can kill proto galogis... Ps Who said rail rifle.... jerrmy go away. Its true Why do you think tanks are so op...bring in a tank to kill another tank. Honestly its the tank argument all over again
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Posted - 2014.03.18 02:41:00 -
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:heavies with light weapons are a joke. always have been.
HMG is OP because any decent heavy instantly melts any suit in the game in his range, combine with LAV and the only way you're countered is a blaster tank, or by multiple infantry.
pretty sure that's the definition of OP- skyrocketed DPS compared to all other weapons. Much higher ehp. the only flaw(speed and range) being easily worked around and abused.
I've thought hmgs were OP ever since the damage buff, then they got the extra 400rpm. Now the TTK with an HMG is instantaneous on any suit except max tanked heavies, which are still melted in less than a second and a half.
The problem is simply that the dps is too damn high, let heavies be tanky, but reduce dps by a substantial amount, and buff the range of the heavy accordingly, it shouldn't HAVE to abuse an LAV on an open map, and it shouldn't be CERTAIN INSTA death in CQC. Exactly...
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Posted - 2014.03.18 02:48:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote:Well Jeremy if you are that close to a heavy your wrong. And heavy's the same as tanks yea we heavies have a god mode hardner we can use and a gun that can 3 shot infantry from 5-150m. 30m is our range that's it if you have skill you can take down the heavy. But back on point if you nerf the hmg you will see alot ALOT more light weapons I warn you Most fights are cqc
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Posted - 2014.03.18 02:50:00 -
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TunRa wrote:I swear no one in the game knows what it means to adapt, t is just a bunch of QQ. They will be instadeath on most maos Which will meant you will see nothing but heavies and ahotguns and maybe rwmotes because of its ability to tank and dps everything
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Posted - 2014.03.18 02:52:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Jacques Cayton II wrote:Well Jeremy if you are that close to a heavy your wrong. And heavy's the same as tanks yea we heavies have a god mode hardner we can use and a gun that can 3 shot infantry from 5-150m. 30m is our range that's it if you have skill you can take down the heavy. But back on point if you nerf the hmg you will see alot ALOT more light weapons I warn you Most fights are cqc I only want the rof buff reduced or gone, heavies are the tanky ones commandos are dps guys Wrong look at most maps they are open wide open. Only a few objectives are heavy friendly I know many maps wnich are cqc and most of the time you get them, most maps are cqc, some are not Doeant give the hmg to be instakill on most...im a heavy myself and the hmg is op atm and will be worse in 1.8
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Posted - 2014.03.18 02:54:00 -
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TunRa wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:TunRa wrote:I swear no one in the game knows what it means to adapt, t is just a bunch of QQ. They will be instadeath on most maos Which will meant you will see nothing but heavies and ahotguns and maybe rwmotes because of its ability to tank and dps everything MOST?!?!? No, barley ANY maps are heavy freindly. Most maps are wide open and have little to no cover, any decent shot with any med - long range weapon will kill ANY heavy/sentinel. Mostof the time I play there are many cqc areas....again doeant mean the hmg gets to be op in cqc...
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Posted - 2014.03.18 02:56:00 -
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Scalesdini wrote:The HMG hate comes from people who are too ignorant to understand that unlike their rifles, it is simply not possible to apply 100% of HMG theoretical DPS past 10m, and the problem is exponentially worse at 20, 30, 40m. The "optimal" range may be 30m or whatever, but it is literally impossible to land more than 50% of rounds on target past 20m because of dispersion... thus giving HMG similar real world DPS to rifles. Except we have to expend 2-4x as many rounds to get that same DPS, can't carry our own nanohives to replenish all that ammo we have to use to get that DPS, have the hitbox of a tank, a larger scan profile than a tank, the absolute worst scan range/precision, move slower than turret emplacements, etc, etc, etc.
But hey, that HMG is super overpowered because of that paper DPS that can only be applied in the real world at sub-10m. Try using the damn gun before you cry about how OP it is, most of you people have no clue how difficult it actually is to play HMG heavy - and I don't mean on the two maps or the one or two points on other maps where the HMG shines, I mean on every map, every game, all the time.
People need to get over medium suit + ________ rifle not being the end all in every single situation. Deal with it. HTFU. Adapt or die. Whatever you want to say about it, just please, shut the hell up. It's not going to be what you people think - people who were **** heavies in 1.7 are going to be **** heavies in 1.8, and if your only tactic for taking out a heavy is try to face him up inside HMG optimal with a ____ rifle, you're going to lose - just like you do now, just like you're supposed to. Strategy. Tactics. This isn't Zerg 514, and there's a reason that "standing in front of the enemy and shooting at each other" was phased out as a military strategy sometime during the civil war. Oh I will adapt My prof 3 op hmg will still deatroy everything....
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Posted - 2014.03.18 02:57:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:TunRa wrote:I swear no one in the game knows what it means to adapt, t is just a bunch of QQ. They will be instadeath on most maos Which will meant you will see nothing but heavies and ahotguns and maybe rwmotes because of its ability to tank and dps everything See back in chromosome heavies had range dps and tank. Guess what assaults and scouts still were their. Your point is invalid Yes but now heavies will practicly be god mode...only time I get solod is when a proto when comes up behind me Or behind me with a cr
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Posted - 2014.03.18 03:03:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Jacques Cayton II wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:TunRa wrote:I swear no one in the game knows what it means to adapt, t is just a bunch of QQ. They will be instadeath on most maos Which will meant you will see nothing but heavies and ahotguns and maybe rwmotes because of its ability to tank and dps everything See back in chromosome heavies had range dps and tank. Guess what assaults and scouts still were their. Your point is invalid Yes but now heavies will practicly be god mode...only time I get solod is when a proto when comes up behind me Or behind me with a cr That's how it should be dumb dumb minus god mode the cr from behind part Stop defending your crutch Thats not how it ahould beIt takes no skill Most of the time I can get shot turn around and insta kill him and kill a other and another easily, hmg's are op.
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Posted - 2014.03.18 03:04:00 -
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TunRa wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:TunRa wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:TunRa wrote:I swear no one in the game knows what it means to adapt, t is just a bunch of QQ. They will be instadeath on most maos Which will meant you will see nothing but heavies and ahotguns and maybe rwmotes because of its ability to tank and dps everything MOST?!?!? No, barley ANY maps are heavy freindly. Most maps are wide open and have little to no cover, any decent shot with any med - long range weapon will kill ANY heavy/sentinel. Mostof the time I play there are many cqc areas....again doeant mean the hmg gets to be op in cqc... I don't know what game you were playing but it obviously wasn't Dust. Smirmish Ambush Domination
Plus I can use a lav.
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Posted - 2014.03.18 03:38:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote:Jeremy your coming of very dumb right about now just stop also learn to at least type words correctly Its called a touch screen. And stop defending your crutch. Your just like the tankers...
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