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Killar-12
OLDSPICE.
Top Men.
2470
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Posted - 2014.03.16 08:44:00 -
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You Get good fights and anyways RA hired NF what is wrong? A group of mercenaries being hired, is that a big deal?
Listen
10M ISK and you shall not be annoyed otherwise just ignore me.
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Palatinate
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
394
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Posted - 2014.03.16 08:54:00 -
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Killar-12 wrote:You Get good fights and anyways RA hired NF what is wrong? A group of mercenaries being hired, is that a big deal?
Probably the sudden turn of events I suppose. I mean lets put this in a historical perspective.
The Byzantine Empire asks the Pope to call a crusade on the Saracens to relieve pressure on their borders.
Pope agrees and gets multiple Catholic nations to fight for the holy land!
Byzantium is overjoyed now that they dont have to do everything themselves.
Crusaders realize "Hey, Constantinople is full of gold and stuff".
*Crusader camp outside of Constantinople*
Now Byzantium have their capital under siege and numerous Saracens attacking their empire.
Help turns into a sudden loss of your Capital and Byzantium scrambles to rebuild before they're done in.
Does this help? 
"Hiding will be seen as an act of aggression!" - Battlefield 3
Me: lol what?
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Krixus Flux
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
94
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Posted - 2014.03.16 09:03:00 -
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Mmmm, Tso's with steamed rice
Saying what's on people's minds
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Killar-12
OLDSPICE.
Top Men.
2470
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Posted - 2014.03.16 09:08:00 -
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Palatinate wrote:Killar-12 wrote:You Get good fights and anyways RA hired NF what is wrong? A group of mercenaries being hired, is that a big deal? Probably the sudden turn of events I suppose. I mean lets put this in a historical perspective. The Byzantine Empire asks the Pope to call a crusade on the Saracens to relieve pressure on their borders. Pope agrees and gets multiple Catholic nations to fight for the holy land! Byzantium is overjoyed now that they dont have to do everything themselves. Crusaders realize "Hey, Constantinople is full of gold and stuff". *Crusader camp outside of Constantinople* Now Byzantium have their capital under siege and numerous Saracens attacking their empire. Help turns into a sudden loss of your Capital and Byzantium scrambles to rebuild before they're done in. Does this help?
Was NF contracted to fight vs RA in these past few weeks or did NF fight RA just to increase their stock of Districts?
Listen
10M ISK and you shall not be annoyed otherwise just ignore me.
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Dr PepperPoP
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
353
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Posted - 2014.03.16 09:18:00 -
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Killar-12 wrote:Palatinate wrote:Killar-12 wrote:You Get good fights and anyways RA hired NF what is wrong? A group of mercenaries being hired, is that a big deal? Probably the sudden turn of events I suppose. I mean lets put this in a historical perspective. The Byzantine Empire asks the Pope to call a crusade on the Saracens to relieve pressure on their borders. Pope agrees and gets multiple Catholic nations to fight for the holy land! Byzantium is overjoyed now that they dont have to do everything themselves. Crusaders realize "Hey, Constantinople is full of gold and stuff". *Crusader camp outside of Constantinople* Now Byzantium have their capital under siege and numerous Saracens attacking their empire. Help turns into a sudden loss of your Capital and Byzantium scrambles to rebuild before they're done in. Does this help? Was NF contracted to fight vs RA in these past few weeks or did NF fight RA just to increase their stock of Districts?
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Palatinate
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
396
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Posted - 2014.03.16 09:28:00 -
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Killar-12 wrote:Palatinate wrote:Killar-12 wrote:You Get good fights and anyways RA hired NF what is wrong? A group of mercenaries being hired, is that a big deal? Probably the sudden turn of events I suppose. I mean lets put this in a historical perspective. The Byzantine Empire asks the Pope to call a crusade on the Saracens to relieve pressure on their borders. Pope agrees and gets multiple Catholic nations to fight for the holy land! Byzantium is overjoyed now that they dont have to do everything themselves. Crusaders realize "Hey, Constantinople is full of gold and stuff". *Crusader camp outside of Constantinople* Now Byzantium have their capital under siege and numerous Saracens attacking their empire. Help turns into a sudden loss of your Capital and Byzantium scrambles to rebuild before they're done in. Does this help? Was NF contracted to fight vs RA in these past few weeks or did NF fight RA just to increase their stock of Districts?
More history! More detail!
Byzantium essentially gave the Crusaders a contract of a 150,000 silver marks to help them against the Seljuks!
After planning was made the Crusader commander who was from Venice asked for the payment in order for assisstance.
Alexios refused to pay unless they were making considerable progress in the Holy Lands.
Venice wasn't happy since they organized the whole crusade only to get paid when blood was shed.
Boniface (Venetian Commander) said "Fine but were taking your city since you haven't paid what you owed".
Byzantium has 15,000 troops in their city when the crusaders siege the city with more than 40,000 and a fleet.
Boniface has meetings with the Seljuks and they insist on him sacking Constantinople while they are occupied.
"Hiding will be seen as an act of aggression!" - Battlefield 3
Me: lol what?
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Killar-12
OLDSPICE.
Top Men.
2470
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Posted - 2014.03.16 09:31:00 -
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Dr PepperPoP wrote:Killar-12 wrote:Palatinate wrote:Killar-12 wrote:You Get good fights and anyways RA hired NF what is wrong? A group of mercenaries being hired, is that a big deal? Probably the sudden turn of events I suppose. I mean lets put this in a historical perspective. The Byzantine Empire asks the Pope to call a crusade on the Saracens to relieve pressure on their borders. Pope agrees and gets multiple Catholic nations to fight for the holy land! Byzantium is overjoyed now that they dont have to do everything themselves. Crusaders realize "Hey, Constantinople is full of gold and stuff". *Crusader camp outside of Constantinople* Now Byzantium have their capital under siege and numerous Saracens attacking their empire. Help turns into a sudden loss of your Capital and Byzantium scrambles to rebuild before they're done in. Does this help? Was NF contracted to fight vs RA in these past few weeks or did NF fight RA just to increase their stock of Districts? If you check the darkness you might find your answers.
Look in the crack of Watts' ass I really don't want to...
Listen
10M ISK and you shall not be annoyed otherwise just ignore me.
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Killar-12
OLDSPICE.
Top Men.
2470
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Posted - 2014.03.16 09:35:00 -
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Palatinate wrote:Killar-12 wrote:Palatinate wrote:Killar-12 wrote:You Get good fights and anyways RA hired NF what is wrong? A group of mercenaries being hired, is that a big deal? Probably the sudden turn of events I suppose. I mean lets put this in a historical perspective. The Byzantine Empire asks the Pope to call a crusade on the Saracens to relieve pressure on their borders. Pope agrees and gets multiple Catholic nations to fight for the holy land! Byzantium is overjoyed now that they dont have to do everything themselves. Crusaders realize "Hey, Constantinople is full of gold and stuff". *Crusader camp outside of Constantinople* Now Byzantium have their capital under siege and numerous Saracens attacking their empire. Help turns into a sudden loss of your Capital and Byzantium scrambles to rebuild before they're done in. Does this help? Was NF contracted to fight vs RA in these past few weeks or did NF fight RA just to increase their stock of Districts? More history! More detail! Byzantium essentially gave the Crusaders a contract of a 150,000 silver marks to help them against the Seljuks! After planning was made the Crusader commander who was from Venice asked for the payment in order for assisstance. Alexios refused to pay unless they were making considerable progress in the Holy Lands. Venice wasn't happy since they organized the whole crusade only to get paid when blood was shed. Boniface (Venetian Commander) said "Fine but were taking your city since you haven't paid what you owed". Byzantium has 15,000 troops in their city when the crusaders siege the city with more than 40,000 and a fleet. Boniface has meetings with the Seljuks and they insist on him sacking Constantinople while they are occupied.
I see
Listen
10M ISK and you shall not be annoyed otherwise just ignore me.
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Palatinate
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
396
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Posted - 2014.03.16 09:39:00 -
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Killar-12 wrote:Palatinate wrote:Killar-12 wrote:Palatinate wrote:Killar-12 wrote:You Get good fights and anyways RA hired NF what is wrong? A group of mercenaries being hired, is that a big deal? Probably the sudden turn of events I suppose. I mean lets put this in a historical perspective. The Byzantine Empire asks the Pope to call a crusade on the Saracens to relieve pressure on their borders. Pope agrees and gets multiple Catholic nations to fight for the holy land! Byzantium is overjoyed now that they dont have to do everything themselves. Crusaders realize "Hey, Constantinople is full of gold and stuff". *Crusader camp outside of Constantinople* Now Byzantium have their capital under siege and numerous Saracens attacking their empire. Help turns into a sudden loss of your Capital and Byzantium scrambles to rebuild before they're done in. Does this help? Was NF contracted to fight vs RA in these past few weeks or did NF fight RA just to increase their stock of Districts? More history! More detail! Byzantium essentially gave the Crusaders a contract of a 150,000 silver marks to help them against the Seljuks! After planning was made the Crusader commander who was from Venice asked for the payment in order for assisstance. Alexios refused to pay unless they were making considerable progress in the Holy Lands. Venice wasn't happy since they organized the whole crusade only to get paid when blood was shed. Boniface (Venetian Commander) said "Fine but were taking your city since you haven't paid what you owed". Byzantium has 15,000 troops in their city when the crusaders siege the city with more than 40,000 and a fleet. Boniface has meetings with the Seljuks and they insist on him sacking Constantinople while they are occupied. I see
It's all rather fitting isn't it?
The Byzantine Empire = FA/Tso's
Seljuks = AE/Renegade
Crusaders = NF
"Hiding will be seen as an act of aggression!" - Battlefield 3
Me: lol what?
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Killar-12
OLDSPICE.
Top Men.
2470
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Posted - 2014.03.16 09:41:00 -
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Palatinate wrote:Killar-12 wrote:Palatinate wrote:
More history! More detail!
Byzantium essentially gave the Crusaders a contract of a 150,000 silver marks to help them against the Seljuks!
After planning was made the Crusader commander who was from Venice asked for the payment in order for assisstance.
Alexios refused to pay unless they were making considerable progress in the Holy Lands.
Venice wasn't happy since they organized the whole crusade only to get paid when blood was shed.
Boniface (Venetian Commander) said "Fine but were taking your city since you haven't paid what you owed".
Byzantium has 15,000 troops in their city when the crusaders siege the city with more than 40,000 and a fleet.
Boniface has meetings with the Seljuks and they insist on him sacking Constantinople while they are occupied.
I see It's all rather fitting isn't it? The Byzantine Empire = FA/Tso's Seljuks = AE/Renegade Crusaders = NF
True, I;m not fond of any of those groups though
Listen
10M ISK and you shall not be annoyed otherwise just ignore me.
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Palatinate
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
396
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Posted - 2014.03.16 09:47:00 -
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Killar-12 wrote:Palatinate wrote:Killar-12 wrote:Palatinate wrote:
More history! More detail!
Byzantium essentially gave the Crusaders a contract of a 150,000 silver marks to help them against the Seljuks!
After planning was made the Crusader commander who was from Venice asked for the payment in order for assisstance.
Alexios refused to pay unless they were making considerable progress in the Holy Lands.
Venice wasn't happy since they organized the whole crusade only to get paid when blood was shed.
Boniface (Venetian Commander) said "Fine but were taking your city since you haven't paid what you owed".
Byzantium has 15,000 troops in their city when the crusaders siege the city with more than 40,000 and a fleet.
Boniface has meetings with the Seljuks and they insist on him sacking Constantinople while they are occupied.
I see It's all rather fitting isn't it? The Byzantine Empire = FA/Tso's Seljuks = AE/Renegade Crusaders = NF True, I;m not fond of any of those groups though
I could make it much more relevant to the current situation and it would make so much sense that I would cry on how historically relevant current In-game events are to actual history. But I'm pretty sure people don't favor history lessons so I guess I shouldnt... 
"Hiding will be seen as an act of aggression!" - Battlefield 3
Me: lol what?
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Dr PepperPoP
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
354
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Posted - 2014.03.16 10:03:00 -
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Palatinate wrote:Killar-12 wrote:Palatinate wrote:Killar-12 wrote:Palatinate wrote:
More history! More detail!
Byzantium essentially gave the Crusaders a contract of a 150,000 silver marks to help them against the Seljuks!
After planning was made the Crusader commander who was from Venice asked for the payment in order for assisstance.
Alexios refused to pay unless they were making considerable progress in the Holy Lands.
Venice wasn't happy since they organized the whole crusade only to get paid when blood was shed.
Boniface (Venetian Commander) said "Fine but were taking your city since you haven't paid what you owed".
Byzantium has 15,000 troops in their city when the crusaders siege the city with more than 40,000 and a fleet.
Boniface has meetings with the Seljuks and they insist on him sacking Constantinople while they are occupied.
I see It's all rather fitting isn't it? The Byzantine Empire = FA/Tso's Seljuks = AE/Renegade Crusaders = NF True, I;m not fond of any of those groups though I could make it much more relevant to the current situation and it would make so much sense that I would cry on how historically relevant current In-game events are to actual history. But I'm pretty sure people don't favor history lessons so I guess I shouldnt...
I, for one, love history comparisons.
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Palatinate
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
396
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Posted - 2014.03.16 10:32:00 -
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It's all rather fitting isn't it?
The Byzantine Empire = FA/Tso's
Seljuks = AE/Renegade
Crusaders = NF[/quote]
True, I;m not fond of any of those groups though[/quote]
I could make it much more relevant to the current situation and it would make so much sense that I would cry on how historically relevant current In-game events are to actual history. But I'm pretty sure people don't favor history lessons so I guess I shouldnt... [/quote]
I, for one, love history comparisons.
[/quote]
You have motivated me!
Quick rundown of these 3 factions!
Crusaders - People who fight for the glory of God (and wealth....mostly wealth). Consist of people varying from peasants to nobles. Fields extremely disciplined knights such as the Knights Templar and Knights Hospitaller. Relation to NF?
These guys were the general guys you don't want to deal with since they are so dang dedicated on finishing what they start (sometimes). Example? Fall and massacre of Jerusalem. Establishment of Kingdoms in the Middle East in order to KEEP a foothold in the Holy Lands! 4 major crusades with 3 minor ones!
The Seljuk Sultanate - THE most powerful Islamic state in the Middle East only rivaled economically by the Fatimid Caliphate (Egypt). Were pretty much the "Boss" of the Middle East (Until the Mongols come) Relation to AE/Renegade? Just the big guys of the area, strong economically and even stronger militarily. Started off scattered and without much purpose till a great leader changes all of that. Wanna expand Islamic influence into Europe but there is only 1 thing in their way...
The Byzantine Empire - A prosperous empire but has been withered down by numerous attacks by the Saracens of the East (Seljuks). Is the only thing from preventing the Seljuks expanding their influence into Europe. Has been fighting a rather costly war but is actually gaining ground back from the Seljuks since the Principality of Antioch (Crusaders) have been rather hard to remove by the Seljuks. 4th crusade happens and Byzantium is now sandwitched between 2 "superpowers". Relation to FA? Rather the only thing preventing AE/Renegade completely dominating PC and is providing a fight even with numerous battles. But with the fairly recent 4th crusade "diversion", the Capital of Byzantium has been lost and the Seljuks rejoice as it makes it so much easier to fight the now spread out forces of Byzantium.
But if history and game events are too follow, Constantinople is reclaimed and the Seljuks fall to another more powerful force!
While the Crusaders are just lol'ing around Europe and the Middle East.
"Hiding will be seen as an act of aggression!" - Battlefield 3
Me: lol what?
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Kain Spero
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
3034
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Posted - 2014.03.16 11:10:00 -
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Killar-12 wrote:
Was NF contracted to fight vs RA in these past few weeks or did NF fight RA just to increase their stock of Districts?
No, NF had no contract with Tso to fight ground forces. NF had Tso's Eve side under contract which NF fully paid out. NF has actually paid Tso for Eve support for this entire weekend, but I doubt Tso would have provided support for attacks on their own assets. Tso actually informed NF that they would not be able to fulfill their contractual obligations because contracts "take a back seat" to alliance support. This provided clear indication that NF no longer needed to continue being a client of Tso's Eve side.
In future contracts I hope that more people in Tso than just Cookie treat their clients with respect. I will be honest the disrespect for a paying client that Tso's Eve side showed including destroying their client's assets when it was earlier stated that they were "too busy" to provide fulfillment of a contract request was quite shocking.
I guess that some organizations do not value customer service and respect for a client as others. Of course anyone can offer merc services, but few can provide quality customer service at the same time.
Owner of Spero Escrow Services
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
3103
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Posted - 2014.03.16 14:38:00 -
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Killar-12 wrote:You Get good fights and anyways RA hired NF what is wrong? A group of mercenaries being hired, is that a big deal?
How many doctors would it take to remove the NF **** from your mouth?
ML Director
Eve Toon - Raylan Scott
Level 3 Forum Warrior
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Kam Elto
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
207
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Posted - 2014.03.16 14:59:00 -
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Palatinate wrote:Killar-12 wrote:Palatinate wrote:Killar-12 wrote:Palatinate wrote:
More history! More detail!
Byzantium essentially gave the Crusaders a contract of a 150,000 silver marks to help them against the Seljuks!
After planning was made the Crusader commander who was from Venice asked for the payment in order for assisstance.
Alexios refused to pay unless they were making considerable progress in the Holy Lands.
Venice wasn't happy since they organized the whole crusade only to get paid when blood was shed.
Boniface (Venetian Commander) said "Fine but were taking your city since you haven't paid what you owed".
Byzantium has 15,000 troops in their city when the crusaders siege the city with more than 40,000 and a fleet.
Boniface has meetings with the Seljuks and they insist on him sacking Constantinople while they are occupied.
I see It's all rather fitting isn't it? The Byzantine Empire = FA/Tso's Seljuks = AE/Renegade Crusaders = NF True, I;m not fond of any of those groups though I could make it much more relevant to the current situation and it would make so much sense that I would cry on how historically relevant current In-game events are to actual history. But I'm pretty sure people don't favor history lessons so I guess I shouldnt... you're comparing button mashing to real world history? get over yourself.
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Derrith Erador
The Panty Pugilists
1294
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Posted - 2014.03.16 15:05:00 -
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It was a history lesson, Kam. I for one enjoyed the way he put it. It didn't have the usual tiercide that most other posts contain.
The lone monk who traverses the treacherous worlds of New Eden in search of panty dropper songs.
Amarrican to the core.
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Ivar Iosef
G I A N T
General Tso's Alliance
46
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Posted - 2014.03.16 17:19:00 -
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No trolling, no flame wars, this is real talk.
This entire war boils down to a clash of cultures. NF are businessmen, and they treat their corp and their operation like a business. Agreements are made, ISK is exchanged. Business. EVE and Dust are separate games, separate entities.
General Tso's Alliance (3XXXD) is more like a family. A big, boisterous family who work together, play together, and troll together. We don't separate our EVE and Dust players, we're all thrown in the mix together. Sometimes we all get along, sometimes we don't, but when one of our own is under attack, we stick together and damn the consequences. We're here to have fun.
With this in view, it is surprising things lasted as long as they did. The diplos all probably wanted to rip their hair out. Both sides expected the other to change their nature for the agreement, and that obviously wasn't going to happen.
It was probably a mistake to work together at all, but what's done is done, and now we all get to cleanup the mess.
Good fights in space, and good fights on the ground, with a ton of politics sandwiched in between.
Isn't that why we're all here?
Idiocy makes my trigger finger itch.
[GI4NT] <3XXXD>
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Heimdallr69
Heaven's Lost Property
1868
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Posted - 2014.03.16 17:37:00 -
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I must admit, I always hated history.
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Palatinate
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
400
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Posted - 2014.03.16 18:27:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:I must admit, I always hated history.
I guess I kind of went overboard with the comparisons. Maybe it wasn't Kam's strong point so maybe he didn't enjoy it like some others. I will refrain from such things in the future.
"Hiding will be seen as an act of aggression!" - Battlefield 3
Me: lol what?
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Jenova Rhapsodos
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
311
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Posted - 2014.03.16 18:31:00 -
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Palatinate wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:I must admit, I always hated history. I guess I kind of went overboard with the comparisons. Maybe it wasn't Kam's strong point so maybe he didn't enjoy it like some others. I will refrain from such things in the future.
I enjoyed it, wasn't expecting to learn so much from you Pal.  |
Dr PepperPoP
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
361
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Posted - 2014.03.16 18:33:00 -
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Jenova Rhapsodos wrote:Palatinate wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:I must admit, I always hated history. I guess I kind of went overboard with the comparisons. Maybe it wasn't Kam's strong point so maybe he didn't enjoy it like some others. I will refrain from such things in the future. I enjoyed it, wasn't expecting to learn so much from you Pal.
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DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
4562
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Posted - 2014.03.16 18:57:00 -
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Indeed I enjoyed it.
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Heimdallr69
Heaven's Lost Property
1871
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Posted - 2014.03.16 19:02:00 -
[24] - Quote
I just hated the class lmao.. What you wrote was kinda cool
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CHICAGOCUBS4EVER
TeamPlayers
3126
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Posted - 2014.03.16 19:40:00 -
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Palatinate wrote:
Byzantium essentially gave the Crusaders a contract of a 150,000 silver marks to help them against the Seljuks!
After planning was made the Crusader commander who was from Venice asked for the payment in order for assisstance.
Alexios refused to pay unless they were making considerable progress in the Holy Lands.
Venice wasn't happy since they organized the whole crusade only to get paid when blood was shed.
Boniface (Venetian Commander) said "Fine but were taking your city since you haven't paid what you owed".
Byzantium has 15,000 troops in their city when the crusaders siege the city with more than 40,000 and a fleet.
Boniface has meetings with the Seljuks and they insist on him sacking Constantinople while they are occupied.
I see[/quote]
It's all rather fitting isn't it?
The Byzantine Empire = FA/Tso's
Seljuks = AE/Renegade
Crusaders = NF[/quote]
with 1 slight difference.... NF were never 'offered' anything. no contract, no nothing, aside from mutual feelings toward a target.
on top of that these 'mutual' feelings got even more strained when our so-called 'friends' try to implement a business model of their own directly undercutting that of our own. look at it from the othdr side of the fence before commenting.
after a very long time, i convinced myself to work with zatara and fa to accomplish a common goal. and at every turn we encountered resistance. arguing over fees, not coordinating (i tip my hat to both ken and himiko. we did some great work together, but the other variables are what made it all a taxing challenge daily), then directly lowballing our own district selling (did you guys ever sell a single district?)
bottom line NF are mercs. our loyalty is paid for by whomever, typically 20 minutes at a time, but in some cases longer terms apply.
and tso never paid for anything. not saying they should have, just making sure everyone is clear on that tidbit of info ;)
You should never underestimate the
predictability of stupidity - Nietzche
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Palatinate
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
403
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Posted - 2014.03.16 20:10:00 -
[26] - Quote
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote:Palatinate wrote:
Byzantium essentially gave the Crusaders a contract of a 150,000 silver marks to help them against the Seljuks!
After planning was made the Crusader commander who was from Venice asked for the payment in order for assisstance.
Alexios refused to pay unless they were making considerable progress in the Holy Lands.
Venice wasn't happy since they organized the whole crusade only to get paid when blood was shed.
Boniface (Venetian Commander) said "Fine but were taking your city since you haven't paid what you owed".
Byzantium has 15,000 troops in their city when the crusaders siege the city with more than 40,000 and a fleet.
Boniface has meetings with the Seljuks and they insist on him sacking Constantinople while they are occupied.
I see
It's all rather fitting isn't it?
The Byzantine Empire = FA/Tso's
Seljuks = AE/Renegade
Crusaders = NF[/quote]
with 1 slight difference.... NF were never 'offered' anything. no contract, no nothing, aside from mutual feelings toward a target.
on top of that these 'mutual' feelings got even more strained when our so-called 'friends' try to implement a business model of their own directly undercutting that of our own. look at it from the othdr side of the fence before commenting.
after a very long time, i convinced myself to work with zatara and fa to accomplish a common goal. and at every turn we encountered resistance. arguing over fees, not coordinating (i tip my hat to both ken and himiko. we did some great work together, but the other variables are what made it all a taxing challenge daily), then directly lowballing our own district selling (did you guys ever sell a single district?)
bottom line NF are mercs. our loyalty is paid for by whomever, typically 20 minutes at a time, but in some cases longer terms apply.
and tso never paid for anything. not saying they should have, just making sure everyone is clear on that tidbit of info ;)[/quote]
Well the Crusaders and Byzantium did have a common interest with eachother. Both wanted to stop the ever growing expansion of the Islamic States but the Crusaders sought an opportunity and took it since Byzantium was a rather bothersome trade partner since they controlled what go's in and comes out of the Black Sea. Byzantium always took advantage of that and charged everyone who passed. Venice didn't like that since they were the other Economical superpower of that time so they decided to relinquish it from an already struggling Empire.
There was some dealings though with the seljuks on the capture of Constantinople and they would "leave" the Crusaders in the Holy Lands alone. Mutual benefits I presume. You help us we leave you a wealthy city and no further conflicts with your territory.
"Hiding will be seen as an act of aggression!" - Battlefield 3
Me: lol what?
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DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
4568
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Posted - 2014.03.16 20:12:00 -
[27] - Quote
The shady deals and back stabs of new Eden should be in a book
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CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
197
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Posted - 2014.03.16 20:53:00 -
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Killar-12 wrote:You Get good fights and anyways RA hired NF what is wrong? A group of mercenaries being hired, is that a big deal?
Do you think people really get pissed over fighting video game wars over video money and video game land. and if people do then its time to step outside and see real life for a change. the fun part of any fps game is the meta before battle that makes the battle more ferocious. at times people can get pissed when they attack a corp looking to fight that corp but end up fighting a whole group of different people. I look forward to a corp on corp tournament in the future and clan battles like mag or bf3 were you are fighting for your corps name those are allways the most heated rivalries.
The clever combatant imposes his will on the enemy, but does not allow the enemy"s will to be imposed upon him. Sun Tzu
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Killar-12 wrote:You Get good fights and anyways RA hired NF what is wrong? A group of mercenaries being hired, is that a big deal? How many doctors would it take to remove the NF **** from your mouth?
None, I just see that it's more politically wise to side with NF, and see if General Tso's lose a few members that's just me... Also It's just a few people in your alliance that I don't like...
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CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote:
with 1 slight difference.... NF were never 'offered' anything. no contract, no nothing, aside from mutual feelings toward a target.
on top of that these 'mutual' feelings got even more strained when our so-called 'friends' try to implement a business model of their own directly undercutting that of our own. look at it from the othdr side of the fence before commenting.
How about we look at a quote from you yourself?
after a very long time, i convinced myself to work with zatara and fa to accomplish a common goal. and at every turn we encountered resistance. arguing over fees(3 mill per no matter what...never pushed for tank losses or ads..paid it myself), not coordinating (example?...unless you mean NF screwing up times of battles)(i tip my hat to both ken and himiko. we did some great work together, but the other variables are what made it all a taxing challenge daily), then directly lowballing our own district selling
bottom line NF are mercs. our loyalty is paid for by whomever, typically 20 minutes at a time, but in some cases longer terms apply.
and tso never paid for anything. not saying they should have, just making sure everyone is clear on that tidbit of info ;)
Indeed we never paid for anything...you were hitting AE for your own profit...we hit them for profit...and because they have been hitting us for 3 months.
Quote:Ive been selling land since land was available to sell. There has always been other people selling, everyone with their own pricing structure.
Everyone has their ways, and long as it works for them, seriously who cares?
do I see this as competition? not at all. FA has land owned by FA.
NF has land owned by NF. don't see how anyone is competing.
what each does with their land is up to them.
So lets stop the pissing match. there's females around and the kids aren't kicked outta the bar til 9, when Rampage has curfew.
Cubs contradicts himself.
Sure some in NF (Kane particularly) got mad when FA made the post...they didn't like competition I guess?
But from Cubs...the definitive answer...this is what we were told.
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