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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:

Murt Lesp wrote:

No disrespect to the CPM but can you list the actions you have taken and the extent you have gone to to aid your fellow players?

A small council of EVE vets to govern Dust outcomes doesn't sit well with me. Add in that gamers did not get to vote for the council makes it frustrating.

Again, no disrespect, I just want better communication between our representatives and us besides the forums. Add a tab on the login page with current CPM actions

I can rattle off a few.

Forwarding Issues on players behalf involving game play lamentations. While we're not balancing things per say we constantly bother CCP with things that are not balanced and ask them to fix it. COmmunity has been helpful in finding these things for forward and CCP Saberwing is getting better at trying to beat the CPM to the punch.

1.8 Follow up, (appox, 3 man hours so far, pending patch day)

PC Changes pointing out the issues [Ongoing ever since it was introduced Blame CPM Kain and CPM Nova Knife on these] (120 man hours, 2 Specific Meetings)

LP Railgun vs Proto Railgun DPS typo confirmation [yesterday] (15 man minutes, casual, pending further action)

Swarm Bug (thanks judge) [Late 1.7] (2 man minutes, casual, pending further action)

1.8 Suit balances Slot layout (42 man hours, one specific meeting)

TTK Aftermath (1 hours, casual, pending further action)

Railgun Dominance [Shortly after 1.7] (2 man minutes, casual,pending further action)

Full Respec [Since 1.5] (720 man hours, 0 Specific Meetings)

CPM Charter refinement (24 man hours)

Infantry's AV role life improvement (unfortunately not a weapon buff) [Since 1.7-(expected resolution 1.8)] (8 Man Hours, Impromptu asked in meeting x3)

TTK (I apologize for the AV nerf brought it up in a short chit chat for a followup) [Since 1.6] (52 man hours, 2 dedicated meetings, lots of small talk)

HAV pricing (I disagreed with this) [1.5-1.7] (2 man hours)

Event Refinement [ongoing] (appox 32 man hours per event, specific meetings when warranted)

Dev blog refinement [ongoing] (appox 16 man hours per blog if presented, averages longer if blog is a bad subject)

CCP - CPM - Community Triad Loop (ongoing issue) (ongoing Clocked over 1k+ manhours so far, 6 dedicated meetings ongoing)

White Papers (Beta-1.4) (40 man hours)

White Papers Publishing (1.3-1.7) (I stopped counting hours... its probably over 2k)

Community Management Report Reviews (Ongoing) So far CCP is community team is well in tune. (appox 16 man hours per report)

Early unbiased but reserved feedback on the The Next Thing(s) (Since Uprising 1.0)

Quick Pokes when server issues crop. (15 minutes)

Getting to the bottom of some complaints as people way things are broken but never explain how. (not recorded averages nearly 1-20 man hours per incident)

Yelling at CCP for Uprising 1.0 (1.1-1.3?) (was not recording hours back then)

List is on going I am sure if I poured over the previous meeting notes I've taken the list about 8x longer.

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The Robot Devil Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1934	Posted - 2014.03.13 10:29:00 - [61] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: lolcpm This is a completely unconstructive post aiming for nothing more than a reaction. I have nothing but support for the CPM and they do their best to advocate for the Community on a regular basis. I'd welcome you to articulate your thoughts in a more productive manner because they do get read - both by the CPM and CCP. A blue tag lol I get more of a reaction out of someone from CCP than i do from lolcpm If this kind of interaction with CCP keeps on going you can scrap the lolcpm since i never see them anyways It would be inappropriate for them to lash out at you because you are mad, it would make them look like trolls or whatever junk you want to call them. Junk post is junk. "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 2962	Posted - 2014.03.13 10:52:00 - [62] - Quote Kevall Longstride wrote: Canari Elphus wrote: If you have issues with who is currently representing you then I expect that you would be quite involved with the current CPM1 elections coming up. This is your chance to decide who is going to be the voice of the players. Its now on you to decide if you are going to work towards bettering this game or be happy just complaining about it. This Also not evidence but might give a clue as to how close a run thing the fight for a Respec was. https://twitter.com/ironwolfsaber/status/443884672917860352 Not that I think you'll chose to believe him. I do. The evidence you call it just shows me that he was prepared to fail and had given up before even talking to CCP about a full infantry refund Is that who you want repping for the community? giving up before anything has been said? not fighting for the community they are supposed to represent? not even holding CCP to account when they made a respec discussion thread which ended up with more than a 1000 replies and a majority wanting a full infantry refund and clearly explaining why It was never close, CCP had them by the puppet strings and they danced for there masters yet again Intelligence is OP
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 13372	Posted - 2014.03.13 11:44:00 - [63] - Quote /troll mode on * Is vehemently surprised Takahiro hasn't leveled accusations of using insider information to gain unfair advantages. /troll mode off. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
Kevall Longstride DUST University Ivy League 1063	Posted - 2014.03.13 11:58:00 - [64] - Quote Said this before and I'll say it again. CCP's obligation, like any game publisher, to listen to and make changes based on community feedback, is precisely zero. The fact that many publishers do so is a credit to them and is not only good business sense and generates brand loyalty plus it strengthens support for the long term progression and survival of the game, no matter what title it is. But that invitation to participate in a discussion is in no way a promise to do everything suggested to them. Which is just as well to be honest. If CCP listened to every idea given to them from the players the game would still be in closed beta and in all likelihood, completely unplayable. Also the community is making suggestions in a vacuum. We've no idea what's coming up in the game, what's been worked on, changes in the internal development process. We know none of it. There may well be significant changes coming to the game that a full Respec might cause problems with. To complain about X or Y not making the game, without tacitly acknowledging that one might not be in full possession of the facts is not a good idea. We know that CCP Rouge is soon going to be sharing his vision of Dust 514 and well be getting a chance to see it at Fanfest. Till then, I think it a good idea to keep everything civil. Mercenary Clone of Dennie Fleetfoot CEO of DUST University CPM1 candidate
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 3443	Posted - 2014.03.13 12:45:00 - [65] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: lolcpm The gulf in the number of valid arguments for a Dropsuit Command respec, and the number for a broader respec is enormous. They changed the dropsuits, so we get a dropsuit respec, it's as simple as that. But they also did tie weapons and equipment to suits So if you run an AR you need a Gal suit, sure you can use a caldari suit but you recieve no bonus and also if you happen to use logi your equipment doesnt recieve a bonus if you use a diff suit Yup. The specialisation bonuses for the assault is the one reason for a weapon respec. Vs the seven or so for dropsuit. No.
Murt Lesp Hydra's Wraiths 29	Posted - 2014.03.13 13:15:00 - [66] - Quote No disrespect to the CPM but can you list the actions you have taken and the extent you have gone to to aid your fellow players? A small council of EVE vets to govern Dust outcomes doesn't sit well with me. Add in that gamers did not get to vote for the council makes it frustrating. Again, no disrespect, I just want better communication between our representatives and us besides the forums. Add a tab on the login page with current CPM actions It's time for MILLITA MONTH!!!
dent 308 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2546	Posted - 2014.03.13 14:03:00 - [67] - Quote Murt Lesp wrote: No disrespect to the CPM but can you list the actions you have taken and the extent you have gone to to aid your fellow players? A small council of EVE vets to govern Dust outcomes doesn't sit well with me. Add in that gamers did not get to vote for the council makes it frustrating. Again, no disrespect, I just want better communication between our representatives and us besides the forums. Add a tab on the login page with current CPM actions A fair amount of what goes on happens under the NDA so no, you are probably not going to get a list. I also think it unfair to characterize them as 'eve vets' when this crew has been involved since very early closed beta. You can't actually have dust characters any older than that. 'Govern' interesting choice of word, but that doesn't really describe what the CPM is doing, or even attempting to do. True they weren't voted in, but so what. Hold no delusions about how videogame democracy works. ( madness mostly ). Communication can always be improved. Generally CCP is pretty amazingly open about what they are doing, much more so than most other game developers. Do not misunderstand this with the idea they work for you. Hail Satan
Murt Lesp Hydra's Wraiths 30	Posted - 2014.03.13 14:08:00 - [68] - Quote dent 308 wrote: Murt Lesp wrote: No disrespect to the CPM but can you list the actions you have taken and the extent you have gone to to aid your fellow players? A small council of EVE vets to govern Dust outcomes doesn't sit well with me. Add in that gamers did not get to vote for the council makes it frustrating. Again, no disrespect, I just want better communication between our representatives and us besides the forums. Add a tab on the login page with current CPM actions A fair amount of what goes on happens under the NDA so no, you are probably not going to get a list. I also think it unfair to characterize them as 'eve vets' when this crew has been involved since very early closed beta. You can't actually have dust characters any older than that. 'Govern' interesting choice of word, but that doesn't really describe what the CPM is doing, or even attempting to do. True they weren't voted in, but so what. Hold no delusions about how videogame democracy works. ( madness mostly ). Communication can always be improved. Generally CCP is pretty amazingly open about what they are doing, much more so than most other game developers. Do not misunderstand this with the idea they work for you. You are correct. We are lucky to have what we have but we'll always want better. I say EVE vets because that was the criteria used to make them eligible when they were appointed. Also, I had no idea that the NDA was in place; the more I know now. I'm never going to stop supporting the game I'd just like to be heard and informed about how things are progressing. Thank you, Dent, for your insight It's time for MILLITA MONTH!!!
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 414	Posted - 2014.03.13 17:05:00 - [69] - Quote Nope. I think whole night about it. And now i see clearly something. And thats something is completely wrong/shortsighed decision. I still pleading for full respec. Till that time i will be on pasive. Long time ago, when i speced in AA i put points in scramble pistol and now there was the chance to put it in racialy right bolt. What is different between racial suits and weapons. Im purst i want to use caldari only tech is that difficult to put out full respec?! The full respec can be an influx gate for players who left. But how i can see, that listening to community was somehow missinterprated by CCP like suit spec only. If there will be weapon in future i will gladly wait. But after approx 51+ pages (in time of decision) where we pleaded for full, CCP just arive with this cut. I just want have chance to finalize my suit racialy with all lore purism, nothing else. Support - Tactician/Support Deteis - Orator BHD since MAG
Leonid Tybalt Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 317	Posted - 2014.03.13 18:49:00 - [70] - Quote Roy Ventus wrote: Leonid Tybalt wrote: Roy Ventus wrote: Leonid Tybalt wrote: Roy Ventus wrote: And scouts with either no sidearm and/or double equipment slots... I know people are frustrated but taking it out on the CPM when they do try to represent us doesn't help ***. I don't need a fuc.king representative. I can speak for myself. CPM = A joke. Just like all representative democracies. Well when you act like that, no one's going to take your ass serious. I'm having trouble doing so right now. Excuse me if I don't care too much. The opinions of random blue/redberries isn't exactly at the top of my list of priorities... Claps* Do you see the issues here? What makes you different than me? Who's opinion would you care for more? Someone you know? Someone you consider greater? In the end you're acting the same way you claim CCP act. What makes my opinion not worth your time? Oh but sure, they're the developers and you're the player/customer, they should listen to you all of the time even when you're acting like a jerk. Grow up. You act like an inconsiderate person and people find it way harder to consider your opinion. Having representatives in a community like this is damn near necessary considering all of the "foaming at the mouth" post that circulate through here daily. If the developers took their time out constantly to come here and argue or even just talk about the issues, we'd have a longer development time. 1.8 Would probably take two extra months and we'd be even more rabid or Hell, many would actually leave the game by then. Even then, you have so many opportunities to talk to them directly but you, and others, obviously don't use these opportunities and would rather, not surprisingly, QQ. You want to change it? Run for CPM. Obviously you, an expert at these things, would be perfect for the job of showing either how useful or useless it really is. I'm not acting like a jerk towards any developers. I'm very concise and to the point with opinions and criticism towards them. The so called "CPM" and random red/blue-berries however is an entirely different matter altogether. I don't have reason to be "considerate" towards you, simply because none of you have any power over my gaming experience or the development of the game. If you feel that it makes me a "jerk", then forward your criticism to the nearest wall. Because I guarantee you that it'll care more than I do.

Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 13380	Posted - 2014.03.13 20:45:00 - [71] - Quote Murt Lesp wrote: No disrespect to the CPM but can you list the actions you have taken and the extent you have gone to to aid your fellow players? A small council of EVE vets to govern Dust outcomes doesn't sit well with me. Add in that gamers did not get to vote for the council makes it frustrating. Again, no disrespect, I just want better communication between our representatives and us besides the forums. Add a tab on the login page with current CPM actions I can rattle off a few. Forwarding Issues on players behalf involving game play lamentations. While we're not balancing things per say we constantly bother CCP with things that are not balanced and ask them to fix it. COmmunity has been helpful in finding these things for forward and CCP Saberwing is getting better at trying to beat the CPM to the punch. PC Changes pointing out the issues [Ongoing ever since it was introduced Blame CPM Kain and CPM Nova Knife on these] (120 man hours, 2 Specific Meetings) LP Railgun vs Proto Railgun DPS typo confirmation [yesterday] (15 man minutes, casual) Swarm Bug (thanks judge) [Late 1.7] (2 man minutes, casual) Railgun Dominance [Shortly after 1.7] (2 man minutes, casual) Full Respec [Since 1.5] (720 man hours, 0 Specific Meetings) Infantry's AV role life improvement (unfortunately not a weapon buff) [Since 1.7-(expected resolution 1.8)] (8 Man Hours, Impromptu asked in meeting x3) TTK most recent of which (I apologize for the AV nerf brought it up in a short chit chat for a followup) [Since 1.6] (32 man hours, 2 dedicated meetings, lots of small talk) HAV pricing (I disagreed with this) [1.5-1.7] (2 man hours) Event Refinement [ongoing] (appox 32 man hours per event) Dev blog refinement [ongoing] (appox 16 man hours per blog if presented) CCP - CPM - Community Triad Loop (ongoing issue) (ongoing Clocked over 1k+ manhours so far, 6 dedicated meetings ongoing) White Papers (Beta-1.4) (40 man hours) White Papers Publishing (1.3-1.7) (I stopped counting hours... its probably over 2k) Community Management Report Reviews (Ongoing) So far CCP is community team is well in tune. (appox 16 man hours per report) Early unbiased but reserved feedback on the The Next Thing(s) (Since Uprising 1.0) Quick Pokes when server issues crop. (15 minutes) Getting to the bottom of some complaints as people way things are broken but never explain how. (not recorded averages nearly 1-20 man hours per incident) Yelling at CCP for Uprising 1.0 (1.1-1.3?) (was not recording hours back then) List is on going I am sure if I poured over the previous meeting notes I've taken the list about 8x longer. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
Murt Lesp Hydra's Wraiths 34	Posted - 2014.03.14 00:09:00 - [72] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Murt Lesp wrote: No disrespect to the CPM but can you list the actions you have taken and the extent you have gone to to aid your fellow players? A small council of EVE vets to govern Dust outcomes doesn't sit well with me. Add in that gamers did not get to vote for the council makes it frustrating. Again, no disrespect, I just want better communication between our representatives and us besides the forums. Add a tab on the login page with current CPM actions I can rattle off a few. Forwarding Issues on players behalf involving game play lamentations. While we're not balancing things per say we constantly bother CCP with things that are not balanced and ask them to fix it. COmmunity has been helpful in finding these things for forward and CCP Saberwing is getting better at trying to beat the CPM to the punch. 1.8 Follow up, (appox, 3 man hours so far, pending patch day) PC Changes pointing out the issues [Ongoing ever since it was introduced Blame CPM Kain and CPM Nova Knife on these] (120 man hours, 2 Specific Meetings) LP Railgun vs Proto Railgun DPS typo confirmation [yesterday] (15 man minutes, casual, pending further action) Swarm Bug (thanks judge) [Late 1.7] (2 man minutes, casual, pending further action) 1.8 Suit balances Slot layout (42 man hours, one specific meeting) TTK Aftermath (1 hours, casual, pending further action) Railgun Dominance [Shortly after 1.7] (2 man minutes, casual,pending further action) Full Respec [Since 1.5] (720 man hours, 0 Specific Meetings) CPM Charter refinement (24 man hours) Infantry's AV role life improvement (unfortunately not a weapon buff) [Since 1.7-(expected resolution 1.8)] (8 Man Hours, Impromptu asked in meeting x3) TTK (I apologize for the AV nerf brought it up in a short chit chat for a followup) [Since 1.6] (52 man hours, 2 dedicated meetings, lots of small talk) HAV pricing (I disagreed with this) [1.5-1.7] (2 man hours) Event Refinement [ongoing] (appox 32 man hours per event, specific meetings when warranted) Dev blog refinement [ongoing] (appox 16 man hours per blog if presented, averages longer if blog is a bad subject) CCP - CPM - Community Triad Loop (ongoing issue) (ongoing Clocked over 1k+ manhours so far, 6 dedicated meetings ongoing) White Papers (Beta-1.4) (40 man hours) White Papers Publishing (1.3-1.7) (I stopped counting hours... its probably over 2k) Community Management Report Reviews (Ongoing) So far CCP is community team is well in tune. (appox 16 man hours per report) Early unbiased but reserved feedback on the The Next Thing(s) (Since Uprising 1.0) Quick Pokes when server issues crop. (15 minutes) Getting to the bottom of some complaints as people way things are broken but never explain how. (not recorded averages nearly 1-20 man hours per incident) Yelling at CCP for Uprising 1.0 (1.1-1.3?) (was not recording hours back then) List is on going I am sure if I poured over the previous meeting notes I've taken the list about 8x longer. Thank you, Iron Wolf Saber This is the single greatest post I have read on the forums. Thank you for sharing this information, and thank you for keeping us in mind (as a member of a 3-man corp I like being heard) You'd be getting my vote for CPM1 It's time for MILLITA MONTH!!!
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 13386	Posted - 2014.03.14 01:16:00 - [73] - Quote Crap missed a crud tonn of things including public face time, CPM / CSM joint sessions, Internal Debates, CPM1 Fostering and Nurturing, After Meetings, Follow Up Meetings, Follow Up, 'Homework', Bro / Vent Talks, and Game Sessions, and no; no timestamps as I kept most of those off records. But based on portional amounts of the activity I say counts nearly 50% of the other cpm activity give or take. Does not include forum, face time ingame, ingame meets, pod casts, video interviews, AMAs (last ama I was part of was 22 man hours) Skype chats with players, and IRC time. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 1053	Posted - 2014.03.14 01:26:00 - [74] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Crap missed a crud tonn of things including public face time, CPM / CSM joint sessions, Internal Debates, CPM1 Fostering and Nurturing, After Meetings, Follow Up Meetings, Follow Up, 'Homework', Bro / Vent Talks, and Game Sessions, and no; no timestamps as I kept most of those off records. But based on portional amounts of the activity I say counts nearly 50% of the other cpm activity give or take. Does not include forum, face time ingame, ingame meets, pod casts, video interviews, AMAs (last ama I was part of was 22 man hours) Skype chats with players, and IRC time. I know CPM spends hundreds of hours working for us, so don't take this the wrong way... I am just playing devil's advocate... If you have spent so much time preaching to CCP about the respec why aren't we being given a full infantry respec? "I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 1713	Posted - 2014.03.14 02:09:00 - [75] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: If you have spent so much time preaching to CCP about the respec why aren't we being given a full infantry respec? The game's designed for no respecs. CCP had no intention of giving you a respec. Likely for a combination of design, balance, and marketing reasons. CPM got them to compromise, which is probably a win. I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 13390	Posted - 2014.03.14 04:46:00 - [76] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Crap missed a crud tonn of things including public face time, CPM / CSM joint sessions, Internal Debates, CPM1 Fostering and Nurturing, After Meetings, Follow Up Meetings, Follow Up, 'Homework', Bro / Vent Talks, and Game Sessions, and no; no timestamps as I kept most of those off records. But based on portional amounts of the activity I say counts nearly 50% of the other cpm activity give or take. Does not include forum, face time ingame, ingame meets, pod casts, video interviews, AMAs (last ama I was part of was 22 man hours) Skype chats with players, and IRC time. I know CPM spends hundreds of hours working for us, so don't take this the wrong way... I am just playing devil's advocate... If you have spent so much time preaching to CCP about the respec why aren't we being given a full infantry respec? I can't give you the whole reason, not yet, which is also the big reason and main reason why. I will divulge a minor factor though. Look at the previous respecs / refunds and how often those cause more problems than they fixed. As a reminder this was a small factor in the overall discussion. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 1054	Posted - 2014.03.14 12:01:00 - [77] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I can't give you the whole reason, not yet, which is also the big reason and main reason why. NDA's are a sonofabitch... Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I will divulge a minor factor though. Look at the previous respecs / refunds and how often those cause more problems than they fixed. As a reminder this was a small factor in the overall discussion. What problems did it cause? I mean, I know many vehicle pilots were grateful for the SP refund. I also know we don't see all of the beautiful data CCP sees... did the last SP refund cause a hamster rebellion or something? "I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 13395	Posted - 2014.03.14 13:47:00 - [78] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I can't give you the whole reason, not yet, which is also the big reason and main reason why. NDA's are a sonofabitch... Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I will divulge a minor factor though. Look at the previous respecs / refunds and how often those cause more problems than they fixed. As a reminder this was a small factor in the overall discussion. What problems did it cause? I mean, I know many vehicle pilots were grateful for the SP refund. I also know we don't see all of the beautiful data CCP sees... did the last SP refund cause a hamster rebellion or something? The one before that had more publicly seen problems. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 1058	Posted - 2014.03.14 13:52:00 - [79] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: The one before that had more publicly seen problems. Was that the respec that players had to opt-in to by opening a support ticket? "I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 13395	Posted - 2014.03.14 14:54:00 - [80] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: The one before that had more publicly seen problems. Was that the respec that players had to opt-in to by opening a support ticket? and the people who accidentally got millions of more isk as well. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked

Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 1062	Posted - 2014.03.14 14:57:00 - [81] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: and the people who accidentally got millions of more isk as well. Was not aware of that part... okay so respecs can cause some collateral damage then. Oh, and Sam Tektzby keeps going on and on about you saying there will never be a weapon respec. Did you ever say that? "I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 1719	Posted - 2014.03.14 14:59:00 - [82] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: and the people who accidentally got millions of more isk as well. This wouldn't have been so bad if CCP hadn't issued everyone 125 vehicles in a recent event that they removed from the game shortly thereafter. That was the bulk of the ISK. I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
Murt Lesp Hydra's Wraiths 34	Posted - 2014.03.14 15:31:00 - [83] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: and the people who accidentally got millions of more isk as well. I remember that time. 64,500,000 isk in my wallet was nice, but I made sure not to spend it. Mistakes are made during refunds so they're clearly focused on damage control so that players aren't millions in debt like last time. It's time for MILLITA MONTH!!!
Malkai Inos Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 1256	Posted - 2014.03.14 15:43:00 - [84] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: and the people who accidentally got millions of more isk as well. Was not aware of that part... okay so respecs can cause some collateral damage then. Oh, and Sam Tektzby keeps going on and on about you saying there will never be a weapon respec. Did you ever say that? https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1933121#post1933121 Sam sometimes just doesn't seem to remember, or care about, clarifying that it's a personal assessment, not a claim of literall truth. You can take a benign object, -you can take a cheeseburger and deconstruct it to its source...
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 13397	Posted - 2014.03.14 15:45:00 - [85] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: and the people who accidentally got millions of more isk as well. Was not aware of that part... okay so respecs can cause some collateral damage then. Oh, and Sam Tektzby keeps going on and on about you saying there will never be a weapon respec. Did you ever say that? I said it was very unlikely, people are attracted to weapons for their performance and until true full parity is met (which is likely never to happen as all of our current weapons save for the assaults) are in classes of their each own. What ccp should strive for from now on though when it comes to weapon introductions is by classes and filling out the rest of the racial class at a time and start with a priority list such as new heavy weapons and more. Also if you watched Pyrex video he does make several fair points about the dangers of giving respecs out in such manners all the time. That there will be people who will pick the winning combination and with all that SP would make the next op fotm fit before it becomes fotm and get the jump start. Mind you the CPM never did conceded on not having the other two in talks with CCP as we had reasons to go full respec in our talks. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 1070	Posted - 2014.03.14 15:49:00 - [86] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: snip I guess I am just a bit bitter... I had nearly maxed AR because it was what was on my starter fit. Now I am wiser and each race has it's own rifle finally. I fully plan on never using that AR again, but I'm stuck with the AR simply because CCP hadn't released the RR yet. Essentially, 1.5 - 2mil SP from my lifetime SP total is wasted. "I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 13399	Posted - 2014.03.14 18:35:00 - [87] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: snip I guess I am just a bit bitter... I had nearly maxed AR because it was what was on my starter fit. Now I am wiser and each race has it's own rifle finally. I fully plan on never using that AR again, but I'm stuck with the AR simply because CCP hadn't released the RR yet. Essentially, 1.5 - 2mil SP from my lifetime SP total is wasted. and there may come a time your new favorite weapon may get nerfed, or may get over nerfed into oblivion. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 1082	Posted - 2014.03.14 18:38:00 - [88] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: and there may come a time your new favorite weapon may get nerfed, or may get over nerfed into oblivion. I'd take a break from Dust until CCP fixed it or I'd use another Caldari weapon until then. Just anything but the AR. If I could have CCP delete those SP from my skill tree I would ask them to do it. I feel the refund it necessary, but if they could at least delete the SP I'd be satisfied. "I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 13399	Posted - 2014.03.14 18:41:00 - [89] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: and there may come a time your new favorite weapon may get nerfed, or may get over nerfed into oblivion. I'd take a break from Dust until CCP fixed it or I'd use another Caldari weapon until then. Just anything but the AR. If I could have CCP delete those SP from my skill tree I would ask them to do it. I feel the refund it necessary, but if they could at least delete the SP I'd be satisfied. Inversely there is always a chance they can buff something. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 1082	Posted - 2014.03.14 18:44:00 - [90] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Inversely there is always a chance they can buff something. If CCP made 2,500RPM AR's shoot Minmatar/Gallente-seeking bullets with a 10m splash radius, 200m optimal range, and 0.5 reload speed I still would not use them. I'm not sure I am making it just how clear I don't want to use the AR. If CCP offered me an omega booster every time I fit an AR and killed someone with it, I would turn them down. "I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley



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