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negative49er
Vherokior Combat Logistics
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.03.09 01:03:00 -
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It loses 50% of it speed agree
Dedicated Shotgun Scout and professional backstabber
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
1998
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Posted - 2014.03.09 01:07:00 -
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Nope.
Assault ak.0 w/ScR+ScP 4LYFE
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
5450
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Posted - 2014.03.09 01:14:00 -
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How about HAVs lose 50% of their speed in general?
lolPLC
[s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through
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ads alt
130
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Posted - 2014.03.09 01:16:00 -
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Atiim wrote:How about HAVs lose 50% of their speed in general?
How about 30% and a nitros neef, and the gunlogi gets to be faster because balance?
1.8 will release...
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shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
1756
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Posted - 2014.03.09 01:21:00 -
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Atiim wrote:How about HAVs lose 50% of their speed in general?
Why not going back to 1.6 with vehicles and AV?
Some tweak on shields stats and hardeners and a reasonable nerf to AV.
Sorry wrong thread but i can't resist...
1.8 it's so secret that nobody know what will be in it, even after patch notes...
#SoloDoloreSuCharlie
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
5456
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Posted - 2014.03.09 01:22:00 -
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ads alt wrote:Atiim wrote:How about HAVs lose 50% of their speed in general? How about 30% and a nitros neef, and the gunlogi gets to be faster because balance?
If the Gunnlogi was made any faster, we'd shatter all balance and they would be broken beyond human comprehension.
How about we add light and heavy NOS Modules, and balance along those lines.
lolPLC
[s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through
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ads alt
130
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Posted - 2014.03.09 01:23:00 -
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Atiim wrote:ads alt wrote:Atiim wrote:How about HAVs lose 50% of their speed in general? How about 30% and a nitros neef, and the gunlogi gets to be faster because balance? If the Gunnlogi was made any faster, we'd shatter all balance and they would be broken beyond human comprehension. How about we add light and heavy NOS Modules, and balance along those lines.
The gunlogi NEEDS to be faster than The maddie otherwise the maddie will be op srill, cant hit and run if I cant run...
1.8 will release...
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Godin Thekiller
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
1845
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Posted - 2014.03.09 01:24:00 -
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ads alt wrote:Atiim wrote:How about HAVs lose 50% of their speed in general? How about 30% and a nitros neef, and the gunlogi gets to be faster because balance?
20% acceleration nerf, and 15% speed nerf. No to the nitro nerf. and Gunnlogi will never be faster than the Maddy ever again. It made no sense in the first place, and it won't now, nor will it ever.
'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever!
Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
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Godin Thekiller
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
1845
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Posted - 2014.03.09 01:25:00 -
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ads alt wrote:Atiim wrote:ads alt wrote:Atiim wrote:How about HAVs lose 50% of their speed in general? How about 30% and a nitros neef, and the gunlogi gets to be faster because balance? If the Gunnlogi was made any faster, we'd shatter all balance and they would be broken beyond human comprehension. How about we add light and heavy NOS Modules, and balance along those lines. The gunlogi NEEDS to be faster than The maddie otherwise the maddie will be op srill, cant hit and run if I cant run...
Caldari isn't hit and run, so your logic is flawed.
'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever!
Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
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Auris Lionesse
Capital Acquisitions LLC
Renegade Alliance
396
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Posted - 2014.03.09 01:25:00 -
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Revert to 1.6 av
Tanks get 15% speed increase from 1.6
1.7 mods stay
Ability to accelerate with r2
Turn faster, accelerate slightly faster than 1.6 |
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
5456
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Posted - 2014.03.09 01:26:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:ads alt wrote:Atiim wrote:How about HAVs lose 50% of their speed in general? How about 30% and a nitros neef, and the gunlogi gets to be faster because balance? 20% acceleration nerf, and 15% speed nerf. No to the nitro nerf. and Gunnlogi will never be faster than the Maddy ever again. It made no sense in the first place, and it won't now, nor will it ever.
What sense does it make for an Armored HAV to be faster than a Shielded HAV?
Less HP = More Speed.
Pretty simple concept to understand.
lolPLC
[s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through
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Godin Thekiller
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
1845
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Posted - 2014.03.09 01:26:00 -
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Auris Lionesse wrote:Revert to 1.6 av
Tanks get 15% speed increase from 1.6
1.7 mods stay
Ability to accelerate with r2
Turn faster, accelerate slightly faster than 1.6
Hell no.
'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever!
Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
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Godin Thekiller
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
1845
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Posted - 2014.03.09 01:27:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:ads alt wrote:Atiim wrote:How about HAVs lose 50% of their speed in general? How about 30% and a nitros neef, and the gunlogi gets to be faster because balance? 20% acceleration nerf, and 15% speed nerf. No to the nitro nerf. and Gunnlogi will never be faster than the Maddy ever again. It made no sense in the first place, and it won't now, nor will it ever. What sense does it make for an Armored HAV to be faster than a Shielded HAV? Less HP = More Speed. Pretty simple concept to understand.
Actually, it's not simple at all. Do you understand how each of the races fight, right?
'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever!
Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
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ads alt
130
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Posted - 2014.03.09 01:28:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:ads alt wrote:Atiim wrote:How about HAVs lose 50% of their speed in general? How about 30% and a nitros neef, and the gunlogi gets to be faster because balance? 20% acceleration nerf, and 15% speed nerf. No to the nitro nerf. and Gunnlogi will never be faster than the Maddy ever again. It made no sense in the first place, and it won't now, nor will it ever.
Its called balance
I cant hit and run if the maddie is 2x faster
And yea nerf nitros
1.8 will release...
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
5456
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Posted - 2014.03.09 01:28:00 -
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Auris Lionesse wrote:Revert to 1.6 av
Tanks get 15% speed increase from 1.6
1.7 mods stay
Ability to accelerate with r2
Turn faster, accelerate slightly faster than 1.6
My main concern about reverting to 1.6 AV, is the fact that it will cause other vehicles to become underpowered.
For the one's saying "let's revert to 1.6 AV", please watch this video.
lolPLC
[s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through
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ads alt
130
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Posted - 2014.03.09 01:29:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:Atiim wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:ads alt wrote:Atiim wrote:How about HAVs lose 50% of their speed in general? How about 30% and a nitros neef, and the gunlogi gets to be faster because balance? 20% acceleration nerf, and 15% speed nerf. No to the nitro nerf. and Gunnlogi will never be faster than the Maddy ever again. It made no sense in the first place, and it won't now, nor will it ever. What sense does it make for an Armored HAV to be faster than a Shielded HAV? Less HP = More Speed. Pretty simple concept to understand. Actually, it's not simple at all. Do you understand how each of the races fight, right?
Its called BALANCE
And yea I do, but this is ground
Caldari vehicles could get extra power just for the engines, thats why its so big
1.8 will release...
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
5460
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Posted - 2014.03.09 01:29:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:
Actually, it's not simple at all. Do you understand how each of the races fight, right?
So then you agree that the 80GJ Blaster needs an incredible range nerf, right?
lolPLC
[s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through
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ads alt
131
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Posted - 2014.03.09 01:31:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Auris Lionesse wrote:Revert to 1.6 av
Tanks get 15% speed increase from 1.6
1.7 mods stay
Ability to accelerate with r2
Turn faster, accelerate slightly faster than 1.6 My main concern about reverting to 1.6 AV, is the fact that it will cause other vehicles to become underpowered. For the one's saying "let's revert to 1.6 AV", please watch this video.
Pythons and incubuses need 200 more hp to thier tanker
100 more pg, rails need damage profile fix, 100 less damage, slightly less rof, 500m range
Fixed
1.8 will release...
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
660
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Posted - 2014.03.09 01:32:00 -
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Blowing hot air around guys?
Okay whatever, just remember that your complaints about reducing HAV speed won't be listened to because Webifiers are being designed to slow vehicles down in the future...
Cause, you know... if any of you actually took the time to read around instead of just flat-line complaining, you'd know of this tool, and would be promoting it's release...
If you can read this, it means you are reading.
Unless you are skimming
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
5460
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Posted - 2014.03.09 01:34:00 -
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:Blowing hot air around guys?
Okay whatever, just remember that your complaints about reducing HAV speed won't be listened to because Webifiers are being designed to slow vehicles down in the future...
Cause, you know... if any of you actually took the time to read around instead of just flat-line complaining, you'd know of this tool, and would be promoting it's release...
Not blowing around anymore hot air than tankers did once the AV nerf was announced 
lolPLC
[s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through
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Auris Lionesse
Capital Acquisitions LLC
Renegade Alliance
397
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Posted - 2014.03.09 01:36:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:Atiim wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:ads alt wrote:Atiim wrote:How about HAVs lose 50% of their speed in general? How about 30% and a nitros neef, and the gunlogi gets to be faster because balance? 20% acceleration nerf, and 15% speed nerf. No to the nitro nerf. and Gunnlogi will never be faster than the Maddy ever again. It made no sense in the first place, and it won't now, nor will it ever. What sense does it make for an Armored HAV to be faster than a Shielded HAV? Less HP = More Speed. Pretty simple concept to understand. Actually, it's not simple at all. Do you understand how each of the races fight, right?
Actually it's very simple
The nitro for high slot is the microwarpdrive of dust.
Armor tank zips in and brawls.
Shield s aren't weighed down and have stronger caps for shields so they move faster but aren't as good up close. They try to keep distance.
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
661
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Posted - 2014.03.09 01:38:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:Blowing hot air around guys?
Okay whatever, just remember that your complaints about reducing HAV speed won't be listened to because Webifiers are being designed to slow vehicles down in the future...
Cause, you know... if any of you actually took the time to read around instead of just flat-line complaining, you'd know of this tool, and would be promoting it's release... Not blowing around anymore hot air than tankers did once the AV nerf was announced
The line you just wrote here basically says that "Tankers were huffing about how underpowered AV would be when the nerf patch notes were released."
I don't think you read through what you wrote there...
If you can read this, it means you are reading.
Unless you are skimming
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
5461
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Posted - 2014.03.09 01:41:00 -
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:Atiim wrote:Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:Blowing hot air around guys?
Okay whatever, just remember that your complaints about reducing HAV speed won't be listened to because Webifiers are being designed to slow vehicles down in the future...
Cause, you know... if any of you actually took the time to read around instead of just flat-line complaining, you'd know of this tool, and would be promoting it's release... Not blowing around anymore hot air than tankers did once the AV nerf was announced The line you just wrote here basically says that "Tankers were huffing about how underpowered AV would be when the nerf patch notes were released." I don't think you read through what you wrote there...
This is why I can't stand when people use idioms.
lolPLC
[s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
1020
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Posted - 2014.03.09 01:43:00 -
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Caldari are slow, long range shield tankers.
Gallentte are fast, close ranged armour tankers.
Join the Channel - CPM1 Candidates - Get to know who's running.
Delt for CPM1
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ads alt
132
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Posted - 2014.03.09 01:49:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:Caldari are slow, long range shield tankers.
Gallentte are fast, close ranged armour tankers.
Yet in eve you can fit a shield ship to brawl
1.8 will release...
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
662
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Posted - 2014.03.09 01:50:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:Atiim wrote:Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:Blowing hot air around guys?
Okay whatever, just remember that your complaints about reducing HAV speed won't be listened to because Webifiers are being designed to slow vehicles down in the future...
Cause, you know... if any of you actually took the time to read around instead of just flat-line complaining, you'd know of this tool, and would be promoting it's release... Not blowing around anymore hot air than tankers did once the AV nerf was announced The line you just wrote here basically says that "Tankers were huffing about how underpowered AV would be when the nerf patch notes were released." I don't think you read through what you wrote there... This is why I can't stand when people use idioms.
So you're saying you don't want to be able to set webifier traps? Such a thing would allow tanks to be the prominent force in open areas, but in enclosed areas or nodes, the tanks would be highly vulnerable.
This kind of situational power seems ideal to me.
If you can read this, it means you are reading.
Unless you are skimming
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Godin Thekiller
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
1845
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Posted - 2014.03.09 01:51:00 -
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Auris Lionesse wrote:
Actually it's very simple
The nitro for high slot is the microwarpdrive of dust.
Armor tank zips in and brawls.
Shield s aren't weighed down and have stronger caps for shields so they move faster but aren't as good up close. They try to keep distance.
You realize that Gallente ships are faster than Caldari ships stock, right?
'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever!
Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
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Godin Thekiller
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
1845
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Posted - 2014.03.09 01:53:00 -
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ads alt wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:Caldari are slow, long range shield tankers.
Gallentte are fast, close ranged armour tankers. Yet in eve you can fit a shield ship to brawl
And those fits are quite silly. The only way I see you getting past that is with Winmatar ships (Caldari ships are silly for CQ), and even then, you better be able to fly well.
'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever!
Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
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ads alt
132
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Posted - 2014.03.09 01:55:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:ads alt wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:Caldari are slow, long range shield tankers.
Gallentte are fast, close ranged armour tankers. Yet in eve you can fit a shield ship to brawl And those fits are quite silly. The only way I see you getting past that is with Winmatar ships (Caldari ships are silly for CQ), and even then, you better be able to fly well.
You do realize in eve caldari shields arent puny like dust? Compared to it I mean
1.8 will release...
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
5466
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Posted - 2014.03.09 01:55:00 -
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:Atiim wrote:Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:Atiim wrote:Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:Blowing hot air around guys?
Okay whatever, just remember that your complaints about reducing HAV speed won't be listened to because Webifiers are being designed to slow vehicles down in the future...
Cause, you know... if any of you actually took the time to read around instead of just flat-line complaining, you'd know of this tool, and would be promoting it's release... Not blowing around anymore hot air than tankers did once the AV nerf was announced The line you just wrote here basically says that "Tankers were huffing about how underpowered AV would be when the nerf patch notes were released." I don't think you read through what you wrote there... This is why I can't stand when people use idioms. So you're saying you don't want to be able to set webifier traps? Such a thing would allow tanks to be the prominent force in open areas, but in enclosed areas or nodes, the tanks would be highly vulnerable. This kind of situational power seems ideal to me.
I actually like the thought of webifires, and have suggested them myself.
What I can't stand, is when people use idioms such as "hit the books" or "piece of cake."
Not really sure why, but I'm not that great when it comes to idioms.
lolPLC
[s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through
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