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Vegetation Monster
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.03.04 17:49:00 -
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It's not even heavies, it's those god dam HMG's!! CCP buffed them and they better than they were in chromosome now. Now it's just heavy spam 514 especially in freking gallante facility. You know what else is stupid, the fact that they can sneak up on my gallante scout suit. Why does passive scanning suck so god damn much? Nerf HMG back to 2000 rof and reduce range by like 10 more percent so heavies have a reason to actually use the assault HMG. This heavy bullsh*t has gone on for too long. The extra Rof makes them OP imo (HMG). The heavies suits are fine, idc for them having rifles. At least they don't kill my scout in like .000000000000000000000001 seconds. it only takes them .0000000000000000000002. Also, wtf is up with these god dam heavies strafing like scouts? WTFFF? its so annoying trying to kill them in close range with SG especially cuz they stafe like MOFOS!
And yes Re's are good
I am a tanker (not really, i dont even use my complex tanks) , heavy, DS pilot, scout gallante and minmitar, proto amarr assault, Proto FG, Proto RR, proto CR, proto Duvolle. And I support nerfing heavies and tanks. (not really heavies, more like the HMGs)
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Everything Dies
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.03.04 17:52:00 -
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Nerf the HMGs and all you'll see is heavies using rail and combat rifles. Choose wisely.
Life is killing me.
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Vegetation Monster
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.03.04 17:55:00 -
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Everything Dies wrote:Nerf the HMGs and all you'll see is heavies using rail and combat rifles. Choose wisely.
Nerf HMG's. RR and CR getting nerfed anyway.
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ResistanceGTA
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.03.04 17:55:00 -
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Heavies are in a pretty good place now. Its just the large influx. Like when everyone ran Duvolles with Prof. V, "oh no, nerf them", now with the RR, CR and ScR overshadowing them, ARs are on the "buff dis s***" train.
Its a cycle, a circle, if you will. See it goes around, it doesn't have any corners........ Is a circle.
xSivartx is my Heavy. There are many like him, but he is my own...
So, other Logi's back off, those are my Warpoints!
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Heimdallr69
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
1761
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Posted - 2014.03.04 17:55:00 -
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They use the rr more than hmg, get rid of that **** or make it so there's a purpose in strafing..right now it's not about skill but who has more hp
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Dr PepperPoP
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.03.04 17:56:00 -
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Everything Dies wrote:Nerf the HMGs and all you'll see is heavies using rail and combat rifles. Choose wisely.
Lol so true.
Gotta love the QQ bout HMG. "OMG, The HMG keeps beating me up close!! WTF CCP ITS OP! MY RR SHOULD BE ABLE TO SOLO IT."
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Dauth Jenkins
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2014.03.04 17:56:00 -
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Vegetation Monster wrote:It's not even heavies, it's those god dam HMG's!! CCP buffed them and they better than they were in chromosome now. Now it's just heavy spam 514 especially in freking gallante facility. You know what else is stupid, the fact that they can sneak up on my gallante scout suit. Why does passive scanning suck so god damn much? Nerf HMG back to 2000 rof and reduce range by like 10 more percent so heavies have a reason to actually use the assault HMG. This heavy bullsh*t has gone on for too long. The extra Rof makes them OP imo (HMG). The heavies suits are fine, idc for them having rifles. At least they don't kill my scout in like .000000000000000000000001 seconds. it only takes them .0000000000000000000002. Also, wtf is up with these god dam heavies strafing like scouts? WTFFF? its so annoying trying to kill them in close range with SG especially cuz they stafe like MOFOS!
And yes Re's are good
I am a tanker (not really, i dont even use my complex tanks) , heavy, DS pilot, scout gallante and minmitar, proto amarr assault, Proto FG, Proto RR, proto CR, proto Duvolle. And I support nerfing heavies and tanks. (not really heavies, more like the HMGs)
Lol, hmgs are fine, they are in a good spot right now
Sees prototompers...
Sees blueberries start to snipe...
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Meeko Fent
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.03.04 17:57:00 -
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ResistanceGTA wrote:Heavies are in a pretty good place now. Its just the large influx. Like when everyone ran Duvolles with Prof. V, "oh no, nerf them", now with the RR, CR and ScR overshadowing them, ARs are on the "buff dis s***" train.
Its a cycle, a circle, if you will. See it goes around, it doesn't have any corners........ Is a circle.
Nah, its mainly cause the stupid event really. Everybody and their mother wants that ISK reward.
Because you Wanted to be Something your Not.
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Asha Starwind
VEXALATION CORPORATION
Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage
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Posted - 2014.03.04 17:57:00 -
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Add a movement penalty similar to that when firing a FG. Bam done no more QQ.
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D legendary hero
Ultramarine Corp
1778
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Posted - 2014.03.04 17:58:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:They use the rr more than hmg, get rid of that **** or make it so there's a purpose in strafing..right now it's not about skill but who has more hp
thats why minmatar frames die to everything. strafing is dead.
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Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2014.03.04 17:59:00 -
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if your mad u cnt beat a hvy in cqc, then you might as well remove them all. thts their job.
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Dr PepperPoP
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
153
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Posted - 2014.03.04 18:00:00 -
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Asha Starwind wrote:Add a movement penalty similar to that when firing a FG. Bam done no more QQ.
Making heavies even easier to hit isn't going to make hitting you any less harder..... |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.03.04 18:00:00 -
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It's not the abundance of heavies or their weapons, it's the absence of the suits you would usually target as a priority.
No.
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Kigurosaka Laaksonen
DUST University
Ivy League
473
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Posted - 2014.03.04 18:00:00 -
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Man, im tired of this fking Vegetation Monster posting bullsh*t...
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Vegetation Monster
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.03.04 18:01:00 -
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Dr PepperPoP wrote:Everything Dies wrote:Nerf the HMGs and all you'll see is heavies using rail and combat rifles. Choose wisely. Lol so true. Gotta love the QQ bout HMG. "OMG, The HMG keeps beating me up close!! WTF CCP ITS OP! MY RR SHOULD BE ABLE TO SOLO IT."
NO "Its OMG FUK THIS HMG, TOOK AWAY 99% OF the Heavies HP with SG AND HE TURNS AROUND AND KILLS ME IN .0000001"
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Meeko Fent
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.03.04 18:03:00 -
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Asha Starwind wrote:Add a movement penalty similar to that when firing a FG. Bam done no more QQ.
I remember there already is....
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Vegetation Monster
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
222
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Posted - 2014.03.04 18:04:00 -
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Kigurosaka Laaksonen wrote:Man, im tired of this fking Vegetation Monster posting bullsh*t...
Man, im tired on bit*hes like you defending your crutch.
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Snagman 313
Carbon 7
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2014.03.04 18:06:00 -
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Vegetation Monster wrote:It's not even heavies, it's those god dam HMG's!! CCP buffed them and they better than they were in chromosome now. Now it's just heavy spam 514 especially in freking gallante facility. You know what else is stupid, the fact that they can sneak up on my gallante scout suit. Why does passive scanning suck so god damn much? Nerf HMG back to 2000 rof and reduce range by like 10 more percent so heavies have a reason to actually use the assault HMG. This heavy bullsh*t has gone on for too long. The extra Rof makes them OP imo (HMG). The heavies suits are fine, idc for them having rifles. At least they don't kill my scout in like .000000000000000000000001 seconds. it only takes them .0000000000000000000002. Also, wtf is up with these god dam heavies strafing like scouts? WTFFF? its so annoying trying to kill them in close range with SG especially cuz they stafe like MOFOS!
And yes Re's are good
I am a tanker (not really, i dont even use my complex tanks) , heavy, DS pilot, scout gallante and minmitar, proto amarr assault, Proto FG, Proto RR, proto CR, proto Duvolle. And I support nerfing heavies and tanks. (not really heavies, more like the HMGs)
Cry much?
Before you go off on one about Chromosome Heavies get your data correct back then the HMG RPM was 3000 and the damage per shot was 18, 19 and 20 dmg from basic to proto respectively. Also back then we had the Sharpshooter skill so I could engage targets at 60m max range however we had less armour.
Right now if you engage a Heavy HMG outside 30m you will generally beat them with an AR type weapon, admittedly the Shotgun scout could use some work but that should be incoming shortly and don't call for a Heavy nerfGǪ.. seriously that's soooo last yearGǪ.. honestly no class has been nerfed so many times and had to be buffed back up again.
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Vegetation Monster
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.03.04 18:09:00 -
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Snagman 313 wrote:Vegetation Monster wrote:It's not even heavies, it's those god dam HMG's!! CCP buffed them and they better than they were in chromosome now. Now it's just heavy spam 514 especially in freking gallante facility. You know what else is stupid, the fact that they can sneak up on my gallante scout suit. Why does passive scanning suck so god damn much? Nerf HMG back to 2000 rof and reduce range by like 10 more percent so heavies have a reason to actually use the assault HMG. This heavy bullsh*t has gone on for too long. The extra Rof makes them OP imo (HMG). The heavies suits are fine, idc for them having rifles. At least they don't kill my scout in like .000000000000000000000001 seconds. it only takes them .0000000000000000000002. Also, wtf is up with these god dam heavies strafing like scouts? WTFFF? its so annoying trying to kill them in close range with SG especially cuz they stafe like MOFOS!
And yes Re's are good
I am a tanker (not really, i dont even use my complex tanks) , heavy, DS pilot, scout gallante and minmitar, proto amarr assault, Proto FG, Proto RR, proto CR, proto Duvolle. And I support nerfing heavies and tanks. (not really heavies, more like the HMGs) Cry much? Before you go off on one about Chromosome Heavies get your data correct back then the HMG RPM was 3000 and the damage per shot was 18, 19 and 20 dmg from basic to proto respectively. Also back then we had the Sharpshooter skill so I could engage targets at 60m max range however we had less armour. Right now if you engage a Heavy HMG outside 30m you will generally beat them with an AR type weapon, admittedly the Shotgun scout could use some work but that should be incoming shortly and don't call for a Heavy nerfGǪ.. seriously that's soooo last yearGǪ.. honestly no class has been nerfed so many times and had to be buffed back up again.
IT was 2000 dumbfuk..
and it went 16, 17.* to 18.*
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calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.04 18:10:00 -
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on the bright side, in a few weeks the event will be long over and heavies will be buffed and you can face them for 3 months until 1.9 =) |
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The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.03.04 18:11:00 -
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No nerf to the HMG. The range is very limited on it and the dropoff in damage is harsh. You have around the same optimal range like a SMG. Outrange the HMG and there is no problem.
I shall show you a world, a world which you cant imagine, a world full off butthurt n00bs at the other end of my gun
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Snagman 313
Carbon 7
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2014.03.04 18:12:00 -
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Vegetation Monster wrote:Snagman 313 wrote:Vegetation Monster wrote:It's not even heavies, it's those god dam HMG's!! CCP buffed them and they better than they were in chromosome now. Now it's just heavy spam 514 especially in freking gallante facility. You know what else is stupid, the fact that they can sneak up on my gallante scout suit. Why does passive scanning suck so god damn much? Nerf HMG back to 2000 rof and reduce range by like 10 more percent so heavies have a reason to actually use the assault HMG. This heavy bullsh*t has gone on for too long. The extra Rof makes them OP imo (HMG). The heavies suits are fine, idc for them having rifles. At least they don't kill my scout in like .000000000000000000000001 seconds. it only takes them .0000000000000000000002. Also, wtf is up with these god dam heavies strafing like scouts? WTFFF? its so annoying trying to kill them in close range with SG especially cuz they stafe like MOFOS!
And yes Re's are good
I am a tanker (not really, i dont even use my complex tanks) , heavy, DS pilot, scout gallante and minmitar, proto amarr assault, Proto FG, Proto RR, proto CR, proto Duvolle. And I support nerfing heavies and tanks. (not really heavies, more like the HMGs) Cry much? Before you go off on one about Chromosome Heavies get your data correct back then the HMG RPM was 3000 and the damage per shot was 18, 19 and 20 dmg from basic to proto respectively. Also back then we had the Sharpshooter skill so I could engage targets at 60m max range however we had less armour. Right now if you engage a Heavy HMG outside 30m you will generally beat them with an AR type weapon, admittedly the Shotgun scout could use some work but that should be incoming shortly and don't call for a Heavy nerfGǪ.. seriously that's soooo last yearGǪ.. honestly no class has been nerfed so many times and had to be buffed back up again. IT was 2000 dumbfuk.. and it went 16, 17.* to 18.*
So you weren't in the game during Chromosome then?
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The Terminator T-1000
Skynet Incorporated
163
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Posted - 2014.03.04 18:12:00 -
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Vegetation Monster wrote:It's not even heavies, it's those god dam HMG's!! CCP buffed them and they better than they were in chromosome now. Now it's just heavy spam 514 especially in freking gallante facility. You know what else is stupid, the fact that they can sneak up on my gallante scout suit. Why does passive scanning suck so god damn much? Nerf HMG back to 2000 rof and reduce range by like 10 more percent so heavies have a reason to actually use the assault HMG. This heavy bullsh*t has gone on for too long. The extra Rof makes them OP imo (HMG). The heavies suits are fine, idc for them having rifles. At least they don't kill my scout in like .000000000000000000000001 seconds. it only takes them .0000000000000000000002. Also, wtf is up with these god dam heavies strafing like scouts? WTFFF? its so annoying trying to kill them in close range with SG especially cuz they stafe like MOFOS!
And yes Re's are good
I am a tanker (not really, i dont even use my complex tanks) , heavy, DS pilot, scout gallante and minmitar, proto amarr assault, Proto FG, Proto RR, proto CR, proto Duvolle. And I support nerfing heavies and tanks. (not really heavies, more like the HMGs)
Wow someone from Kill them Kill complainng? Lol
Working as Intended. If you do t want to get kill shoot them from outside their range and use team work!
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Heimdallr69
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
1761
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Posted - 2014.03.04 18:14:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:on the bright side, in a few weeks the event will be long over and heavies will be buffed and you can face them for 3 months until 1.9 =)
Nah I'll leave till it's fixed, I can't use a forge or hmg on my assault or scout so why can they run our weapons with all that hp?
And don't mention speed, strafing is pointless in this game now
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Vegetation Monster
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.03.04 18:15:00 -
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Snagman 313 wrote:Vegetation Monster wrote:Snagman 313 wrote:Vegetation Monster wrote:It's not even heavies, it's those god dam HMG's!! CCP buffed them and they better than they were in chromosome now. Now it's just heavy spam 514 especially in freking gallante facility. You know what else is stupid, the fact that they can sneak up on my gallante scout suit. Why does passive scanning suck so god damn much? Nerf HMG back to 2000 rof and reduce range by like 10 more percent so heavies have a reason to actually use the assault HMG. This heavy bullsh*t has gone on for too long. The extra Rof makes them OP imo (HMG). The heavies suits are fine, idc for them having rifles. At least they don't kill my scout in like .000000000000000000000001 seconds. it only takes them .0000000000000000000002. Also, wtf is up with these god dam heavies strafing like scouts? WTFFF? its so annoying trying to kill them in close range with SG especially cuz they stafe like MOFOS!
And yes Re's are good
I am a tanker (not really, i dont even use my complex tanks) , heavy, DS pilot, scout gallante and minmitar, proto amarr assault, Proto FG, Proto RR, proto CR, proto Duvolle. And I support nerfing heavies and tanks. (not really heavies, more like the HMGs) Cry much? Before you go off on one about Chromosome Heavies get your data correct back then the HMG RPM was 3000 and the damage per shot was 18, 19 and 20 dmg from basic to proto respectively. Also back then we had the Sharpshooter skill so I could engage targets at 60m max range however we had less armour. Right now if you engage a Heavy HMG outside 30m you will generally beat them with an AR type weapon, admittedly the Shotgun scout could use some work but that should be incoming shortly and don't call for a Heavy nerfGǪ.. seriously that's soooo last yearGǪ.. honestly no class has been nerfed so many times and had to be buffed back up again. IT was 2000 dumbfuk.. and it went 16, 17.* to 18.* So you weren't in the game during Chromosome then?
proof you are stupid... 7:13
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CommanderBolt
ACME SPECIAL FORCES
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.03.04 18:17:00 -
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Vegetation Monster wrote:It's not even heavies, it's those god dam HMG's!! CCP buffed them and they better than they were in chromosome now. Now it's just heavy spam 514 especially in freking gallante facility. You know what else is stupid, the fact that they can sneak up on my gallante scout suit. Why does passive scanning suck so god damn much? Nerf HMG back to 2000 rof and reduce range by like 10 more percent so heavies have a reason to actually use the assault HMG. This heavy bullsh*t has gone on for too long. The extra Rof makes them OP imo (HMG). The heavies suits are fine, idc for them having rifles. At least they don't kill my scout in like .000000000000000000000001 seconds. it only takes them .0000000000000000000002. Also, wtf is up with these god dam heavies strafing like scouts? WTFFF? its so annoying trying to kill them in close range with SG especially cuz they stafe like MOFOS!
And yes Re's are good
I am a tanker (not really, i dont even use my complex tanks) , heavy, DS pilot, scout gallante and minmitar, proto amarr assault, Proto FG, Proto RR, proto CR, proto Duvolle. And I support nerfing heavies and tanks. (not really heavies, more like the HMGs)
EDIT: OR NERF SPIN SPEED!!!
You are not meant to take on HMG heavies at close range lol. You fight them outside of their own range or you sneak up and do terrible things like shotgun them or plant remote explosives all over the shop.
I'm getting tired of this communities readiness to call one thing or another OP yet not ever actually discuss balance as a whole. People conveniently forget one detail or another.
Think about all angles of a weapon / roles behaviour, stop having tunnel vision on one single aspect of something. How about we compare data, how about we discuss roles?
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Zahle Undt
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2014.03.04 18:18:00 -
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Just wait until 1.8. CCP has stated they are decreasing damage a little bit on the rifles and SMG, but I noted nothing was said about the HMG. So 1.8 we have sentinels getting great buffs for them and CCP "forgetting" that HMG is part of the low TTK issue = OP sentinels in 1.8.
Hopefully I'll be wrong, but Dust 514 history is with me on this one.
Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
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Vegetation Monster
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.03.04 18:19:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:Vegetation Monster wrote:It's not even heavies, it's those god dam HMG's!! CCP buffed them and they better than they were in chromosome now. Now it's just heavy spam 514 especially in freking gallante facility. You know what else is stupid, the fact that they can sneak up on my gallante scout suit. Why does passive scanning suck so god damn much? Nerf HMG back to 2000 rof and reduce range by like 10 more percent so heavies have a reason to actually use the assault HMG. This heavy bullsh*t has gone on for too long. The extra Rof makes them OP imo (HMG). The heavies suits are fine, idc for them having rifles. At least they don't kill my scout in like .000000000000000000000001 seconds. it only takes them .0000000000000000000002. Also, wtf is up with these god dam heavies strafing like scouts? WTFFF? its so annoying trying to kill them in close range with SG especially cuz they stafe like MOFOS!
And yes Re's are good
I am a tanker (not really, i dont even use my complex tanks) , heavy, DS pilot, scout gallante and minmitar, proto amarr assault, Proto FG, Proto RR, proto CR, proto Duvolle. And I support nerfing heavies and tanks. (not really heavies, more like the HMGs)
EDIT: OR NERF SPIN SPEED!!! You are not meant to take on HMG heavies at close range lol. You fight them outside of their own range or you sneak up and do terrible things like shotgun them or plant remote explosives all over the shop. I'm getting tired of this communities readiness to call one thing or another OP yet not ever actually discuss balance as a whole. People conveniently forget one detail or another. Think about all angles of a weapon / roles behaviour, stop having tunnel vision on one single aspect of something. How about we compare data, how about we discuss roles?
I SG but they turn fast enough to rip me to shreads.
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Roy Ventus
Axis of Chaos
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Posted - 2014.03.04 18:22:00 -
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Don't nerf the HMG. Leave it be.
That's there bread and butter. We're trying to get them off the RRs.
"There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all."
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Snagman 313
Carbon 7
CRONOS.
336
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Posted - 2014.03.04 18:24:00 -
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That video was from February 2013 and Chromosome hit in sometime around the 18th or 19th of December 2012 Heavies got nerfed shortly thereafter I think we had 2 or 3 weeks before the hot fix that gave rise to what stats the video shows. I forget the name of the build before Chromosome but that one was a good one for Heavies as well.
Again Cry much???
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