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Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 7115	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:05:00 - [1] - Quote Assuming 40hp/s on 1.8 Caldari Assault (Very likely to happen), two complex energizers bring the suit to.... 115hp/s. Couple that with one or two regs (And the fact that delays are being lowered accross the board in 1.8) Be afraid. Be very afraid. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. DUST514514
Beren Hurin Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 2124	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:09:00 - [2] - Quote TTK whiner prophecy: You asked for this people. We are now going to go back to the chromosome flux+MD tactics. People will be having a lot more resiliant shields now, but won't be able to run from MD spam. Also the lr is going to be stripping a lot more shields bare. The way around it will be a balance of speed/endurance and regulators for shield suits.
ads alt DROID EXILES General Tso's Alliance 12	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:12:00 - [3] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Assuming 40hp/s on 1.8 Caldari Assault (Very likely to happen), two complex energizers bring the suit to.... 115hp/s. Couple that with one or two regs (And the fact that delays are being lowered accross the board in 1.8) Be afraid. Be very afraid. Also be afriad of nothing, low as hell hp 1 energiser will suffice for 75 hp/s, my sentinel will be better still...
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 2953	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:12:00 - [4] - Quote Cool. They're going to need it. I GÖú Kittens.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 7116	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:14:00 - [5] - Quote ads alt wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Assuming 40hp/s on 1.8 Caldari Assault (Very likely to happen), two complex energizers bring the suit to.... 115hp/s. Couple that with one or two regs (And the fact that delays are being lowered accross the board in 1.8) Be afraid. Be very afraid. Also be afriad of nothing, low as hell hp 1 energiser will suffice for 75 hp/s, my sentinel will be better still... 407 shields with two complex extenders. Couple that with the reduced TTK, and it's actually a quite well off suit. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. DUST514514
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 2804	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:15:00 - [6] - Quote Nevermind thought you ment it was the tank 115 a second is pretty good on a dropsuit but you dont regen through damage like you do in EVE so if you dont take cover your ****** anyways Intelligence is OP
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 348	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:16:00 - [7] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Assuming 40hp/s on 1.8 Caldari Assault (Very likely to happen), two complex energizers bring the suit to.... 115hp/s. Couple that with one or two regs (And the fact that delays are being lowered accross the board in 1.8) Be afraid. Be very afraid. yeah but if the slot layout, shield extenders stay the same, your shield pool will MAYBE ONLY scratch 400 hp. for the pre 1.4 nostalgia i run a 3shiled x 1 comp energizer 2 comp reg buffer suit, 0 shield to full in 13 seconds....stupid recharge delay penalty but a decent buff to any of the shield modules/mechanics and yeah, buffer cal will be terrifying again CEO of SAM-MIK...sometimes. (shhh don't tell anyone, they'll start asking questions)
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3290	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:17:00 - [8] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Assuming 40hp/s on 1.8 Caldari Assault (Very likely to happen), two complex energizers bring the suit to.... 115hp/s. Couple that with one or two regs (And the fact that delays are being lowered accross the board in 1.8) Be afraid. Be very afraid. You mean shield suits can actually hit and run reliably now!? GASP Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face. I've got 3k likes, I'll double post if I want to dammit!
ads alt DROID EXILES General Tso's Alliance 12	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:17:00 - [9] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: ads alt wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Assuming 40hp/s on 1.8 Caldari Assault (Very likely to happen), two complex energizers bring the suit to.... 115hp/s. Couple that with one or two regs (And the fact that delays are being lowered accross the board in 1.8) Be afraid. Be very afraid. Also be afriad of nothing, low as hell hp 1 energiser will suffice for 75 hp/s, my sentinel will be better still... 407 shields with two complex extenders. Couple that with the reduced TTK, and it's actually a quite well off suit. At proto suit My adv suit uses 2 extenders 1 energiser, adv or basic, its at 401 shields.... My sentinel is alot better in 1.8
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 7116	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:18:00 - [10] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Nevermind thought you ment it was the tank 115 a second is pretty good on a dropsuit but you dont regen through damage like you do in EVE so if you dont take cover your ****** anyways They reduced the delays. Couple that with two regulators and you will get at least 115hp if the enemy has to reload an AR. 230 if you're smart. Max health if you can dance in cover :D Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. DUST514514

Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 7118	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:19:00 - [11] - Quote ads alt wrote: Cat Merc wrote: ads alt wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Assuming 40hp/s on 1.8 Caldari Assault (Very likely to happen), two complex energizers bring the suit to.... 115hp/s. Couple that with one or two regs (And the fact that delays are being lowered accross the board in 1.8) Be afraid. Be very afraid. Also be afriad of nothing, low as hell hp 1 energiser will suffice for 75 hp/s, my sentinel will be better still... 407 shields with two complex extenders. Couple that with the reduced TTK, and it's actually a quite well off suit. At proto suit My adv suit uses 2 extenders 1 energiser, adv or basic, its at 401 shields.... My sentinel is alot better in 1.8 Sentinels are better than assaults in general come 1.8 lol Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. DUST514514
ads alt DROID EXILES General Tso's Alliance 12	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:22:00 - [12] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: ads alt wrote: Cat Merc wrote: ads alt wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Assuming 40hp/s on 1.8 Caldari Assault (Very likely to happen), two complex energizers bring the suit to.... 115hp/s. Couple that with one or two regs (And the fact that delays are being lowered accross the board in 1.8) Be afraid. Be very afraid. Also be afriad of nothing, low as hell hp 1 energiser will suffice for 75 hp/s, my sentinel will be better still... 407 shields with two complex extenders. Couple that with the reduced TTK, and it's actually a quite well off suit. At proto suit My adv suit uses 2 extenders 1 energiser, adv or basic, its at 401 shields.... My sentinel is alot better in 1.8 Sentinels are better than assaults in general come 1.8 lol If no respec im gunna be a scout and my assault 1 energiser onoy If respec, scout and sentinel and drop everything amarr I currently have 1.4 mil saved sp not counting the events sp
Crimson ShieId Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 174	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:33:00 - [13] - Quote I think you're numbers are a bit off. Even with two and 40 on the regen, you're only getting about 80. It take's three to even get close to that 115 and then you're still a few points away from it... unless shield rechargers are getting a boost? If they're getting buffed to like 70% or so, then I retract my statement, but otherwise, you'd need three of em to get there. Sometimes I miss never seeing tanks in a battle... then I remember the mystical flying soma, and I can't help but smile.
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1472	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:38:00 - [14] - Quote Yeah, this is about right. ~ 74 hp/s on caldari assault with 1 complex energizer. Maybe the caldari assaults will have a clear role soon? Especially if TTK is fixed, and something is done about regulators. Drop it like its hat.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 7121	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:39:00 - [15] - Quote Crimson ShieId wrote: I think you're numbers are a bit off. Even with two and 40 on the regen, you're only getting about 80. It take's three to even get close to that 115 and then you're still a few points away from it... unless shield rechargers are getting a boost? If they're getting buffed to like 70% or so, then I retract my statement, but otherwise, you'd need three of em to get there. Talking about energizers here, not rechargers. Complex energizer gives 60%. Skill bonus gives 25%. 75% per enegizer. Even while accounting for stacking penalties ((60% * 0.87) * 1.25) it turns out 115hp/s with two. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. DUST514514
Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1804	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:40:00 - [16] - Quote I believe your numbers are a bit of. A Complex Energizer adds 69% more shield recharge (60% base * 1.15 skill bonus). So 40 base * 1.69 * approx 1.6 = approx 108 shield recharge. That's still a lot, but you're sacrificing a lot to run that. At the very least you would need a CPU mod. Winner of the EU Squad Cup & the closed beta Tester's Tournament. Go Go Power Rangers! R.I.P MAG.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 7121	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:40:00 - [17] - Quote Spectral Clone wrote: Yeah, this is about right. ~ 74 hp/s on caldari assault with 1 complex energizer. Maybe the caldari assaults will have a clear role soon? Especially if TTK is fixed, and something is done about regulators. They already have a clear role, just as much as the Gallente assault has a clear role. They're both inferior logistics :P Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. DUST514514
Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1804	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:40:00 - [18] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Complex energizer gives 60%. Skill bonus gives 25%. 75% per enegizer. Even while accounting for stacking penalties ((60% * 0.87) * 1.25) it turns out 115hp/s with two. Skill bonus is 15% I believe. Winner of the EU Squad Cup & the closed beta Tester's Tournament. Go Go Power Rangers! R.I.P MAG.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 7121	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:41:00 - [19] - Quote Bendtner92 wrote: I believe your numbers are a bit of. A Complex Energizer adds 69% more shield recharge 60% base * 1.15 skill bonus). So 40 base * 1.69 * approx 1.6 = approx 108 shield recharge. That's still a lot, but you're sacrificing a lot to run that. At the very least you would need a CPU mod. Most Caldari already run a CPU mod. Couple that with the fact that the penalty only applies to base health, not total health, and you really don't sacrifice much more than two slots. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. DUST514514
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 7121	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:42:00 - [20] - Quote Bendtner92 wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Complex energizer gives 60%. Skill bonus gives 25%. 75% per enegizer. Even while accounting for stacking penalties ((60% * 0.87) * 1.25) it turns out 115hp/s with two. Skill bonus is 15% I believe. You are correct sir, I just checked. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. DUST514514

Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2496	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:43:00 - [21] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Assuming 40hp/s on 1.8 Caldari Assault (Very likely to happen), two complex energizers bring the suit to.... 115hp/s. Couple that with one or two regs (And the fact that delays are being lowered accross the board in 1.8) Be afraid. Be very afraid. Yup, throw in a couple of plates and you've got a killer suit. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1804	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:44:00 - [22] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Most Caldari already run a CPU mod. Couple that with the fact that the penalty only applies to base health, not total health, and you really don't sacrifice much more than two slots. People will rather use a single Energizer and then likely be able to run without the CPU mod. I'm not worried about people with two Energizers. Winner of the EU Squad Cup & the closed beta Tester's Tournament. Go Go Power Rangers! R.I.P MAG.
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1475	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:45:00 - [23] - Quote Bendtner92 wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Complex energizer gives 60%. Skill bonus gives 25%. 75% per enegizer. Even while accounting for stacking penalties ((60% * 0.87) * 1.25) it turns out 115hp/s with two. Skill bonus is 15% I believe. Hmm gotta check this. I was responsible for telling The Feline Its 25%. Drop it like its hat.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 7121	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:45:00 - [24] - Quote Bendtner92 wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Most Caldari already run a CPU mod. Couple that with the fact that the penalty only applies to base health, not total health, and you really don't sacrifice much more than two slots. People will rather use a single Energizer and then likely be able to run without the CPU mod. I'm not worried about people with two Energizers. True. Should also consider that all suits that we know of got a significant CPU/PG buff. Assaults might have gotten the same thing. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. DUST514514
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1475	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:46:00 - [25] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Bendtner92 wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Most Caldari already run a CPU mod. Couple that with the fact that the penalty only applies to base health, not total health, and you really don't sacrifice much more than two slots. People will rather use a single Energizer and then likely be able to run without the CPU mod. I'm not worried about people with two Energizers. True. Should also consider that all suits that we know of got a significant CPU/PG buff. Assaults might have gotten the same thing. PG/Cpu reduction on weapons will open many possibilities! Drop it like its hat.
ResistanceGTA D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 325	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:48:00 - [26] - Quote Your edited numbers are correct, I skilled Shield Recharging to 5 for a different thread yesterday, and two complex energizers brought my shield recharge up by around 2.7 times, so 108 off of base 40. That's some shield recharge. xSivartx is my Heavy. There are many like him, but he is my own... So, other Logi's back off, those are my Warpoints!
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 7121	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:48:00 - [27] - Quote Spectral Clone wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Bendtner92 wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Most Caldari already run a CPU mod. Couple that with the fact that the penalty only applies to base health, not total health, and you really don't sacrifice much more than two slots. People will rather use a single Energizer and then likely be able to run without the CPU mod. I'm not worried about people with two Energizers. True. Should also consider that all suits that we know of got a significant CPU/PG buff. Assaults might have gotten the same thing. PG/Cpu reduction on weapons will open many possibilities! Not really. Already have it on my Gallente assault, can't even fit a duvolle Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. DUST514514
Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1804	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:51:00 - [28] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: True. Should also consider that all suits that we know of got a significant CPU/PG buff. Assaults might have gotten the same thing. Yeah, I'm pretty sure Caldari Assault will have around 360 base CPU, which will be 473 after fitting skills. Two energizers, two extenders and a weapon is already almost 400 CPU, so you can't run it without a CPU mod. I doubt people will run that fit over a fit with only one energizer and no CPU mod. Winner of the EU Squad Cup & the closed beta Tester's Tournament. Go Go Power Rangers! R.I.P MAG.
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1475	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:53:00 - [29] - Quote Buffing caldari/minmatar overall shield regen/regulation is the only way to get rid of brick tanking. Make shield mods better for shield tanking suits than armor mods. Drop it like its hat.
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1475	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:55:00 - [30] - Quote Bendtner92 wrote: Cat Merc wrote: True. Should also consider that all suits that we know of got a significant CPU/PG buff. Assaults might have gotten the same thing. Yeah, I'm pretty sure Caldari Assault will have around 360 base CPU, which will be 473 after fitting skills. Two energizers, two extenders and a weapon is already almost 400 CPU, so you can't run it without a CPU mod. I doubt people will run that fit over a fit with only one energizer and no CPU mod. 74 hp/s is still very good. You can also use 2x enhanced energizers. :) Drop it like its hat.



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