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Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 7115	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:05:00 - [1] - Quote Assuming 40hp/s on 1.8 Caldari Assault (Very likely to happen), two complex energizers bring the suit to.... 115hp/s. Couple that with one or two regs (And the fact that delays are being lowered accross the board in 1.8) Be afraid. Be very afraid. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. DUST514514
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 7116	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:14:00 - [2] - Quote ads alt wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Assuming 40hp/s on 1.8 Caldari Assault (Very likely to happen), two complex energizers bring the suit to.... 115hp/s. Couple that with one or two regs (And the fact that delays are being lowered accross the board in 1.8) Be afraid. Be very afraid. Also be afriad of nothing, low as hell hp 1 energiser will suffice for 75 hp/s, my sentinel will be better still... 407 shields with two complex extenders. Couple that with the reduced TTK, and it's actually a quite well off suit. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. DUST514514
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 7116	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:18:00 - [3] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Nevermind thought you ment it was the tank 115 a second is pretty good on a dropsuit but you dont regen through damage like you do in EVE so if you dont take cover your ****** anyways They reduced the delays. Couple that with two regulators and you will get at least 115hp if the enemy has to reload an AR. 230 if you're smart. Max health if you can dance in cover :D Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. DUST514514
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 7118	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:19:00 - [4] - Quote ads alt wrote: Cat Merc wrote: ads alt wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Assuming 40hp/s on 1.8 Caldari Assault (Very likely to happen), two complex energizers bring the suit to.... 115hp/s. Couple that with one or two regs (And the fact that delays are being lowered accross the board in 1.8) Be afraid. Be very afraid. Also be afriad of nothing, low as hell hp 1 energiser will suffice for 75 hp/s, my sentinel will be better still... 407 shields with two complex extenders. Couple that with the reduced TTK, and it's actually a quite well off suit. At proto suit My adv suit uses 2 extenders 1 energiser, adv or basic, its at 401 shields.... My sentinel is alot better in 1.8 Sentinels are better than assaults in general come 1.8 lol Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. DUST514514
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 7121	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:39:00 - [5] - Quote Crimson ShieId wrote: I think you're numbers are a bit off. Even with two and 40 on the regen, you're only getting about 80. It take's three to even get close to that 115 and then you're still a few points away from it... unless shield rechargers are getting a boost? If they're getting buffed to like 70% or so, then I retract my statement, but otherwise, you'd need three of em to get there. Talking about energizers here, not rechargers. Complex energizer gives 60%. Skill bonus gives 25%. 75% per enegizer. Even while accounting for stacking penalties ((60% * 0.87) * 1.25) it turns out 115hp/s with two. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. DUST514514
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 7121	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:40:00 - [6] - Quote Spectral Clone wrote: Yeah, this is about right. ~ 74 hp/s on caldari assault with 1 complex energizer. Maybe the caldari assaults will have a clear role soon? Especially if TTK is fixed, and something is done about regulators. They already have a clear role, just as much as the Gallente assault has a clear role. They're both inferior logistics :P Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. DUST514514
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 7121	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:41:00 - [7] - Quote Bendtner92 wrote: I believe your numbers are a bit of. A Complex Energizer adds 69% more shield recharge 60% base * 1.15 skill bonus). So 40 base * 1.69 * approx 1.6 = approx 108 shield recharge. That's still a lot, but you're sacrificing a lot to run that. At the very least you would need a CPU mod. Most Caldari already run a CPU mod. Couple that with the fact that the penalty only applies to base health, not total health, and you really don't sacrifice much more than two slots. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. DUST514514
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 7121	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:42:00 - [8] - Quote Bendtner92 wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Complex energizer gives 60%. Skill bonus gives 25%. 75% per enegizer. Even while accounting for stacking penalties ((60% * 0.87) * 1.25) it turns out 115hp/s with two. Skill bonus is 15% I believe. You are correct sir, I just checked. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. DUST514514
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 7121	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:45:00 - [9] - Quote Bendtner92 wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Most Caldari already run a CPU mod. Couple that with the fact that the penalty only applies to base health, not total health, and you really don't sacrifice much more than two slots. People will rather use a single Energizer and then likely be able to run without the CPU mod. I'm not worried about people with two Energizers. True. Should also consider that all suits that we know of got a significant CPU/PG buff. Assaults might have gotten the same thing. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. DUST514514
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 7121	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:48:00 - [10] - Quote Spectral Clone wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Bendtner92 wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Most Caldari already run a CPU mod. Couple that with the fact that the penalty only applies to base health, not total health, and you really don't sacrifice much more than two slots. People will rather use a single Energizer and then likely be able to run without the CPU mod. I'm not worried about people with two Energizers. True. Should also consider that all suits that we know of got a significant CPU/PG buff. Assaults might have gotten the same thing. PG/Cpu reduction on weapons will open many possibilities! Not really. Already have it on my Gallente assault, can't even fit a duvolle Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. DUST514514

Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 7121	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:58:00 - [11] - Quote Spectral Clone wrote: Buffing caldari/minmatar overall shield regen/regulation is the only way to get rid of brick tanking. Make shield mods better for shield tanking suits than armor mods. That still leaves low slots... All you did was make Caldari/Minmatar dual tankers superior to Amarr/Gallente dual tankers, since they get massively more HP/s on shields. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. DUST514514
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 7123	Posted - 2014.03.04 17:22:00 - [12] - Quote Spectral Clone wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Spectral Clone wrote: Buffing caldari/minmatar overall shield regen/regulation is the only way to get rid of brick tanking. Make shield mods better for shield tanking suits than armor mods. That still leaves low slots... All you did was make Caldari/Minmatar dual tankers superior to Amarr/Gallente dual tankers, since they get massively more HP/s on shields. But low slots on shield assaults are not for plates. They are for utility. But CAN be used for plates. That's the problem, people CAN dual tank, and it's superior. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. DUST514514
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 7123	Posted - 2014.03.04 17:53:00 - [13] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Nevermind thought you ment it was the tank 115 a second is pretty good on a dropsuit but you dont regen through damage like you do in EVE so if you dont take cover your ****** anyways They reduced the delays. Couple that with two regulators and you will get at least 115hp if the enemy has to reload an AR. 230 if you're smart. Max health if you can dance in cover :D Big IF But if it works like it should then it will be better than now Bleh, I can easily avoid damage long enough to get 4 ticks of shield regen (= max health with my numbers) It's only if you're out in the open, then you're screwed. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. DUST514514
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 7123	Posted - 2014.03.04 17:58:00 - [14] - Quote Jacques Cayton II wrote: Cat Merc wrote: ads alt wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Assuming 40hp/s on 1.8 Caldari Assault (Very likely to happen), two complex energizers bring the suit to.... 115hp/s. Couple that with one or two regs (And the fact that delays are being lowered accross the board in 1.8) Be afraid. Be very afraid. Also be afriad of nothing, low as hell hp 1 energiser will suffice for 75 hp/s, my sentinel will be better still... 407 shields with two complex extenders. Couple that with the reduced TTK, and it's actually a quite well off suit. If you brick tank a sentinel in 1.8 your gonna have a bad time The best Caldari sentinel fit I saw only uses one extender. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. DUST514514
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 7123	Posted - 2014.03.04 18:07:00 - [15] - Quote Speaking of regulators (Shameless plug mode activate!) https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1897948#post1897948 Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. DUST514514

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