Using Nova Knives in their current form against a heavy suit is simply foolish and you should not expect a success to begin with. Until NK's have a faster way to deliver charged attacks, it's as i already stated, a fools gambit.

I disagree. I have regularly had my ass handed to me by dampened minjas. The jerks knife me in the back without showing up on radar, and then when I start to turn around, they lead in the opposite direction and knife me in the back again.

Smart scouts score more kills on me than "pro skills" medium suits. Operative word being: smart. These are the players who know multiple ways to approach from behind using stealth, use damage-stacked NK builds, are very strategic with remote explosives, and know how to cook a grenade.

They don't assault from the front, they don't get into a shootout with a fattie, and they never, ever fight fair. And I respect the hell out of them for it.


Eh. Anyway. It is my (potentially biased) opinion that Heavy and Heavy weapon balance is just fine right now. But Death Taxi LAVs, and vehicles of all sorts, are a bit of an issue. And I think that has more to do with the current state of AV than anything else.

lol no no no. just ban them from using light weapons. try killing a good strafer. lower turn speed anymore would be a bad thing.


goddamit i wish the people in corp would stop making nerf boba's stuff threads.

LOL, sorry Boba... but we are on different sides here
And IMO HMG accuracy would benefit from being slower , so essentially trying to help

Being slower is worse. It would mean eventually people would figure out that instead of fighting a heavy straight on - you run past him - turn around faster then he can, and just unload. If you're really good at this you can constantly just run around him as he ttys to figure out which direction to turn to get to you faster.

This is how things used to be for heavies - actually. Turn speed used to be bad that anyone would just strafe us to death with any weapon.

I am not saying Heavys are OP.....

I am pointing out that scouts run with 300HP to have the advantage of fast movement/turning
Yet heavy's have over 1000HP, the hardest hitting weapon in CQC and a fast turn speed

I don't even mind heavys that much, I posted this as I am seeing other post on the subject
And wanted to propose something other than a 'nerf'

Lot's of post moaning on heavies and to be fair
It has been pretty crap getting Heavy spammed in CQC

I don't mind the difficulty of taking on a heavy, it's fun
The issue is when I flank and attack him, using anything other than RE is suicide
Because the buff to Heavy turn speed was completely unnecessary, they are Heavy!

Heavys can turn around way to fast atm and it makes it too easy for AR use..
The HMG accuracy would actually benefit from it being slower so....

What do you think ?

They can rage all they like, to turn fast i sacrifice HP (light/medium)
What did they sacrifice to be able to 360 as fast as they are atm ??

No complaints on their damage or endurance but
the Heavy turn speed is really unfair on the scout role
that should be our advantage not the guys with over 1000HP

Shotguns can absolutely destroy a Heavy suit if you initate the attack from behind or flanking, the former giving the best odds for success. But the problem is that this is a coin toss on whether or not hit detection will be in your favor. The shotgun STILL has the hit detection issues it's had for almost an entire year, albeit slightly better then it used to be. I've been downed many times in 2 shotgun rounds, as well has survived many times from a whole clip being shot at me.

Using Nova Knives in their current form against a heavy suit and expecting a guaranteed kill, is simply foolish and you should not expect a success to begin with. Until NK's have a faster way to deliver charged attacks, it's as i already stated, not a guaranteed kill to initiate an attack from behind.

If you stay at 40+ meters from an Heavy using an HMG, you have the advantage with any weapon able to fire effectively in that 40+ meters. How many weapons have their optimal and effective ranges 40 meters and higher? That's how many weapons you can use against the Heavy, not only effectively, but advantageously.

Heavy class is a CQC specialist. Having a decent turn speed is needed. I remember when people use to orbit heavies, which kinda defeats the purpose of being a CQC specialist doesn't it?

Heavy class is a CQC specialist. Having a decent turn speed is needed. I remember when people use to orbit heavies, which kinda defeats the purpose of being a CQC specialist doesn't it?