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Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens League of Infamy 632	Posted - 2014.03.01 17:41:00 - [1] - Quote Going off of the information released so far, it seems all of the Suits are kind of being pushed into a "this is what you are supposed to do." Sentinel: Defense, lots of EHP. Logistics: Support, specific bonus to racial equipment. Scout: Sneaky, meant to be hard to find or find people. Commando: Damage, bonus to light weapon damage while having high HP. Assault: I am really not sure; they just seem to be getting a bonus to fitting weapons and be better with a particular weapon. They don't do more damage than the Commando and don't have more HP so I am trying to see where their niche is. Even ignoring the fact that Logistics get more slots and therefore more HP than Assaults, what are Assaults supposed to do as a role in 1.8 compared to the other suits? Be well.
Nocturnal Soul Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2085	Posted - 2014.03.01 17:45:00 - [2] - Quote To look pretty while you get bent over. "But we have been blessed"
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7041	Posted - 2014.03.01 17:51:00 - [3] - Quote Assaults are also for damage (for instance Amarr assault reduced heat build up means you're able to dish out damage for longer). Where it differs from the Commando is that the Assault is better at flanking and such. Mail me in game if interested in learning about the Amarr Empire and serving them in Faction Warfare. Amarr Victor!
Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES 1348	Posted - 2014.03.01 17:53:00 - [4] - Quote Joseph Ridgeson wrote: Going off of the information released so far, it seems all of the Suits are kind of being pushed into a "this is what you are supposed to do." Sentinel: Defense, lots of EHP. Logistics: Support, specific bonus to racial equipment. Scout: Sneaky, meant to be hard to find or find people. Commando: Damage, bonus to light weapon damage while having high HP. Assault: I am really not sure; they just seem to be getting a bonus to fitting weapons and be better with a particular weapon. They don't do more damage than the Commando and don't have more HP so I am trying to see where their niche is. Even ignoring the fact that Logistics get more slots and therefore more HP than Assaults, what are Assaults supposed to do as a role in 1.8 compared to the other suits? Be well. The same as they have always been. They are for assaulting. Weird huh? Who wants some?
Auris Lionesse Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance 297	Posted - 2014.03.01 17:54:00 - [5] - Quote There isn't one. Logi suits have more CPU/pg and slots. Assaults are just a little bit faster but thats negligible for am extra slots.
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1448	Posted - 2014.03.01 17:54:00 - [6] - Quote There is no point. The suit needs a perk similar to the cloak that scouts will get in 1.8. Drop it like its hat.
Auris Lionesse Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance 297	Posted - 2014.03.01 18:07:00 - [7] - Quote Spectral Clone wrote: There is no point. The suit needs a perk similar to the cloak that scouts will get in 1.8. Well they should lower damage and give suits a damage buff for their racial variants like eve does. Galente ship getting a 5% blaster damage and falloff increase per level.
Onesimus Tarsus 1250	Posted - 2014.03.01 18:13:00 - [8] - Quote ...getting assaulted. Start an alt, use no SP, grab a starter fit and join me in "no SP warriors" chat!
KalOfTheRathi Nec Tributis 995	Posted - 2014.03.01 18:17:00 - [9] - Quote The hinted at reason is assault suits are for Slayers to use. They really hate Logis getting kills as do many of the QQ Kittens on the forums. All the designs in Dust5t4 for assault suits so far have been ... mediocre at best. Almost any Logi was better than the same racial assault suit. The only problem was the loss of the small arm slot. With the incredibly short TTK of 1.7 not that many Mercs get a chance to switch so ... without the small arms slot at least the suit is cheaper. In my biased opinion there hasn't been a good assault since they delivered the Nerf Hammer of Doom on the Caldari in 1.5 or so. That doesn't look like it is going to change. I would expect if Logis are still Slayers in 1.8 then an even bigger Logi Nerf Hammers will be raining down from Shanghai. Thus making Assault suits good slayers because everything else will be worse. And so it goes.
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 4445	Posted - 2014.03.01 18:17:00 - [10] - Quote It's suppose to be a general, everyman's suit that can be easily modified to fit different conditions. My alts: General John Ripper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Anarchide, Long Evity And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior

Onesimus Tarsus 1250	Posted - 2014.03.01 18:20:00 - [11] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: It's suppose to be a general, everyman's suit that can be easily modified to fit different conditions. Yeah, cuz them logis are hard to kit out into everything from a scout to a fer-lappin' dropship. Start an alt, use no SP, grab a starter fit and join me in "no SP warriors" chat!
Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES 1348	Posted - 2014.03.01 18:20:00 - [12] - Quote You guys are morons. Take a look at every bad ass corp. They are rocking primarily assaults. Watch pubstomps. Again assaults. I am sick of your crying asses. Who wants some?
Johnny Guilt Algintal Core 531	Posted - 2014.03.01 18:22:00 - [13] - Quote (Light)Assault jetpacks please. A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1449	Posted - 2014.03.01 18:29:00 - [14] - Quote Johnny Guilt wrote: (Light)Assault jetpacks please. This. Its the perk of the Light assault class in Planetside 2. Just copy it CCP. Drop it like its hat.
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 441	Posted - 2014.03.01 18:33:00 - [15] - Quote Darken-Soul wrote: You guys are morons. Take a look at every bad ass corp. They are rocking primarily assaults. Watch pubstomps. Again assaults. I am sick of your crying asses. Hey dumbs*** have you've seen the damage resistance the heavies are getting? The stats on all the heavies, supposedly the Minmatar heavy is gonna be able to be faster than most assault suits. After Uprisings release the forums were a bad place, I'll never forget how CCP screwed up so badly.
Delta90212 Dust2Dust. Top Men. 307	Posted - 2014.03.01 18:40:00 - [16] - Quote da GAND wrote: Darken-Soul wrote: You guys are morons. Take a look at every bad ass corp. They are rocking primarily assaults. Watch pubstomps. Again assaults. I am sick of your crying asses. Hey dumbs*** have you've seen the damage resistance the heavies are getting? The stats on all the heavies, supposedly the Minmatar heavy is gonna be able to be faster than most assault suits. How exactly is 4.25 move speed and 5.95 sprint speed faster than a assault suit? Fear The Tribes // In Rust We Trust // Standings Minmatar 6 // Minmatar Logibro //
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 441	Posted - 2014.03.01 18:43:00 - [17] - Quote Delta90212 wrote: da GAND wrote: Darken-Soul wrote: You guys are morons. Take a look at every bad ass corp. They are rocking primarily assaults. Watch pubstomps. Again assaults. I am sick of your crying asses. Hey dumbs*** have you've seen the damage resistance the heavies are getting? The stats on all the heavies, supposedly the Minmatar heavy is gonna be able to be faster than most assault suits. How exactly is 4.25 move speed and 5.95 sprint speed faster than a assault suit? I said it's going to be able to, with the right stims After Uprisings release the forums were a bad place, I'll never forget how CCP screwed up so badly.
Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES 1351	Posted - 2014.03.01 18:48:00 - [18] - Quote da GAND wrote: Darken-Soul wrote: You guys are morons. Take a look at every bad ass corp. They are rocking primarily assaults. Watch pubstomps. Again assaults. I am sick of your crying asses. Hey dumbs*** have you've seen the damage resistance the heavies are getting? The stats on all the heavies, supposedly the Minmatar heavy is gonna be able to be faster than most assault suits. so the will live .25 seconds longer. Big whoop. Who wants some?
Delta90212 Dust2Dust. Top Men. 307	Posted - 2014.03.01 18:49:00 - [19] - Quote da GAND wrote: Delta90212 wrote: da GAND wrote: Darken-Soul wrote: You guys are morons. Take a look at every bad ass corp. They are rocking primarily assaults. Watch pubstomps. Again assaults. I am sick of your crying asses. Hey dumbs*** have you've seen the damage resistance the heavies are getting? The stats on all the heavies, supposedly the Minmatar heavy is gonna be able to be faster than most assault suits. How exactly is 4.25 move speed and 5.95 sprint speed faster than a assault suit? I said it's going to be able to, with the right stims/low slot module. Hmm fair enough, though 7.35 (7.71 with skills) sprint with 2 complx kins doesn't seem that good considering your giving up EHP/utility low slots Fear The Tribes // In Rust We Trust // Standings Minmatar 6 // Minmatar Logibro //
Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES 1351	Posted - 2014.03.01 18:50:00 - [20] - Quote da GAND wrote: Delta90212 wrote: da GAND wrote: Darken-Soul wrote: You guys are morons. Take a look at every bad ass corp. They are rocking primarily assaults. Watch pubstomps. Again assaults. I am sick of your crying asses. Hey dumbs*** have you've seen the damage resistance the heavies are getting? The stats on all the heavies, supposedly the Minmatar heavy is gonna be able to be faster than most assault suits. How exactly is 4.25 move speed and 5.95 sprint speed faster than a assault suit? I said it's going to be able to, with the right stims I can get my sentinal around 8mps. It doesn't mean it gives it more survivability. Who wants some?

Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 6974	Posted - 2014.03.01 18:51:00 - [21] - Quote Darken-Soul wrote: You guys are morons. Take a look at every bad ass corp. They are rocking primarily assaults. Watch pubstomps. Again assaults. I am sick of your crying asses. No, they are rocking primarily logis. Assaults are a rare thing in PC. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 441	Posted - 2014.03.01 18:52:00 - [22] - Quote Darken-Soul wrote: da GAND wrote: Delta90212 wrote: da GAND wrote: Darken-Soul wrote: You guys are morons. Take a look at every bad ass corp. They are rocking primarily assaults. Watch pubstomps. Again assaults. I am sick of your crying asses. Hey dumbs*** have you've seen the damage resistance the heavies are getting? The stats on all the heavies, supposedly the Minmatar heavy is gonna be able to be faster than most assault suits. How exactly is 4.25 move speed and 5.95 sprint speed faster than a assault suit? I said it's going to be able to, with the right stims I can get my sentinal around 8mps. It doesn't mean it gives it more survivability. If you play smarter you will After Uprisings release the forums were a bad place, I'll never forget how CCP screwed up so badly.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 6974	Posted - 2014.03.01 18:53:00 - [23] - Quote To the OP: Assaults, unless there are some serious start changes, seem to be like the ret@rded step brother of the scout. You lose 100 HP (big whoop) and gain SO MUCH! Speed, more equipment, stealth, scanning, stamina etc'. Heavies and scouts will dominate the battlefield of 1.8. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 441	Posted - 2014.03.01 18:53:00 - [24] - Quote Delta90212 wrote: da GAND wrote: Delta90212 wrote: da GAND wrote: Darken-Soul wrote: You guys are morons. Take a look at every bad ass corp. They are rocking primarily assaults. Watch pubstomps. Again assaults. I am sick of your crying asses. Hey dumbs*** have you've seen the damage resistance the heavies are getting? The stats on all the heavies, supposedly the Minmatar heavy is gonna be able to be faster than most assault suits. How exactly is 4.25 move speed and 5.95 sprint speed faster than a assault suit? I said it's going to be able to, with the right stims/low slot module. Hmm fair enough, though 7.35 sprint with 2 complx kins doesn't seem that fast considering your giving up EHP/utility low slots my bad it's actually high slots for the Kinetic Catalyzer, but I agree that people will have to work out what they want more or a way to balance it so they have pretty good speed for a heavy and HP(sh,arm) After Uprisings release the forums were a bad place, I'll never forget how CCP screwed up so badly.
Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES 1351	Posted - 2014.03.01 18:55:00 - [25] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: To the OP: Assaults, unless there are some serious start changes, seem to be like the ret@rded step brother of the scout. You lose 100 HP (big whoop) and gain SO MUCH! Speed, more equipment, stealth, scanning, stamina etc'. Heavies and scouts will dominate the battlefield of 1.8. good. Who wants some?
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 588	Posted - 2014.03.01 18:56:00 - [26] - Quote "What is the point of the Assault Suit?" I've been contemplating that question while inside my Slayer Logi suit. Hoping that will change in 1.8, but not so sure it will.
Delta90212 Dust2Dust. Top Men. 307	Posted - 2014.03.01 18:59:00 - [27] - Quote da GAND wrote: my bad it's actually high slots for the Kinetic Catalyzer, but I agree that people will have to work out what they want more or a way to balance it so they have pretty good speed for a heavy and HP(sh,arm) Actually kin cats are low slots Fear The Tribes // In Rust We Trust // Standings Minmatar 6 // Minmatar Logibro //
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 1361	Posted - 2014.03.01 18:59:00 - [28] - Quote Amarr Assault helps out their niche weapons. The others... Not as much. The Gallente is awesome if you're using AR. Anything else and it's useless. Caldari Assault has a reload bonus. Woopty doo. I mean, it's KIND OF useful for every weapon, but it doesn't negate their own weapons' weaknesses like the Amarr do. Minmatar assault has greater clips. I can see how this is useful for their weapons so I'll place this as useful. In conclusion, the useful assaults will be Amarr and Minmatar. Gallente and Caldari need to be rethought out. Their bonuses are supposed to make their racial weapons OP.
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 441	Posted - 2014.03.01 19:02:00 - [29] - Quote Delta90212 wrote: da GAND wrote: my bad it's actually high slots for the Kinetic Catalyzer, but I agree that people will have to work out what they want more or a way to balance it so they have pretty good speed for a heavy and HP(sh,arm) Actually kin cats are low slots My bad again , just logged on to check to make sure. After Uprisings release the forums were a bad place, I'll never forget how CCP screwed up so badly.
Talos Alomar Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2070	Posted - 2014.03.01 19:22:00 - [30] - Quote Slayer logis look good on paper but in the field they generally either move really slowly due to stacked plates, or are really squishy because they need so many plates to be comparable to an assault. And then looking at the new proposed assault bonus (x% reduction in fitting costs) that frees up enough cpu/pg for the assault to wield better weaponry while not sacrificing any tank. And the funny thing about the forums is just how much they undervalue sidearms. In any real combat situation I find a good sidearm invaluable. The Assault being able to break out an SMG or ScP instead of reloading has been the downfall of many slayer logis. Sidearms are also seemingly getting buffed in 1.8, so the commando's advantage of having two light slots seems just a little less impressive. So back to the OP, the point of the assault is to be the generalist frontline fighter. It's able to have both decent damage output and eHP without having any major downsides. I do suppose the comparison between the commando and the assault should get fleshed out a little better. Sure the commando has a higher natural hitpoint pool. But higher HP does not mean better HP. The shield stats are appalling and the limited slot count means that one has to decide between higher HP or HP regen. High base HP means jack-all if you have no way of restoring it. A high base hp with slow regen might be a good choice for the first few seconds of the first encounter with an enemy, but after that initial advantage is burned away you'll be screwed. Commando suits seem better suited for long range AV or area denial. They don't seem suited for actual combat due to the fact that they have terrible regen and no grenade slot. Try to kill it all you want CCP, I still <3 my laser.

Martyr Saboteur Amarrtyrs 186	Posted - 2014.03.01 19:37:00 - [31] - Quote Damage Application with racial weapons. Amarr: Lower heat buildup allows for higher damage application Caldari: Faster reloads allows for higher damage application Gallente: Less dispersion allows for higher damage application Minmatar: Larger magazines allow for higher damage application. Totally not Fizzer94's forum alt. Definitely just a random dude.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 6980	Posted - 2014.03.01 19:49:00 - [32] - Quote Darken-Soul wrote: Cat Merc wrote: To the OP: Assaults, unless there are some serious start changes, seem to be like the ret@rded step brother of the scout. You lose 100 HP (big whoop) and gain SO MUCH! Speed, more equipment, stealth, scanning, stamina etc'. Heavies and scouts will dominate the battlefield of 1.8. good. And that is why the Breach AR is useless, Flaylock is useless, Laser is useless, etc'. Because of people like you. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Heimdallr69 Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 1741	Posted - 2014.03.01 19:55:00 - [33] - Quote Assaults used to be good now they're whatever.. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Talos Alomar Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2073	Posted - 2014.03.01 19:55:00 - [34] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Darken-Soul wrote: Cat Merc wrote: To the OP: Assaults, unless there are some serious start changes, seem to be like the ret@rded step brother of the scout. You lose 100 HP (big whoop) and gain SO MUCH! Speed, more equipment, stealth, scanning, stamina etc'. Heavies and scouts will dominate the battlefield of 1.8. good. And that is why the Breach AR is useless, Flaylock is useless, Laser is useless, etc'. Because of people like you. Shots fired! Try to kill it all you want CCP, I still <3 my laser.
Mobius Wyvern Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 4666	Posted - 2014.03.01 20:07:00 - [35] - Quote Joseph Ridgeson wrote: Going off of the information released so far, it seems all of the Suits are kind of being pushed into a "this is what you are supposed to do." Sentinel: Defense, lots of EHP. Logistics: Support, specific bonus to racial equipment. Scout: Sneaky, meant to be hard to find or find people. Commando: Damage, bonus to light weapon damage while having high HP. Assault: I am really not sure; they just seem to be getting a bonus to fitting weapons and be better with a particular weapon. They don't do more damage than the Commando and don't have more HP so I am trying to see where their niche is. Even ignoring the fact that Logistics get more slots and therefore more HP than Assaults, what are Assaults supposed to do as a role in 1.8 compared to the other suits? Be well. Oh, and they still get less slots than Logistic suits, because the slot counts aren't being changed. That's right, gentlemen, the primary reason everyone uses Logistic suits for killing is NOT being changed. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Talos Alomar Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2076	Posted - 2014.03.01 20:11:00 - [36] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Oh, and they still get less slots than Logistic suits, because the slot counts aren't being changed. That's right, gentlemen, the primary reason everyone uses Logistic suits for killing is NOT being changed. Which is just kind of silly. Try to kill it all you want CCP, I still <3 my laser.
Heimdallr69 Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 1741	Posted - 2014.03.01 20:14:00 - [37] - Quote In a 1v1 I'm better in assaults but when it comes to PC the team matters not your ego..therefor assaults have no place in PC a logi can do just as good and is more efficient for your team. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
DJINN Marauder Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 4339	Posted - 2014.03.01 20:15:00 - [38] - Quote In a 1v1 with similar skill, the assault will beat the logi. The assault suit is the general slayer. Main pushers. Scouts can't directly push an objective because they don't have enough hp. Heavies can't because they are too slow. Same with commandos. Logis can but assaults are the best at.. Assaulting objectives lol GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢ Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà Forum Warrior LV. 5 \| Warframe is awesome! \| PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-DAY
Roy Ventus Foxhound Corporation 1195	Posted - 2014.03.01 20:23:00 - [39] - Quote My opinion, not CCP, but the Commando is the best DPS machine with a flexibility for weapons but inflexibility for everything else. It's still a modified heavy, it's less mobile than the assault and will suck if you don't fit it for strictly high-offense. Assaults are more versatile but because of their versatility they can't specialize in damage. Slayers should consider the Commando specialization. We should actually be happy that we get to choose specializations. There will be more. Pilot suits, Marksman suits, Crusader/Tactician suits, etc. One day we'll have plenty of options that seem better than are core classes but will have their disadvantages along with their advantages. Don't forget that the Commando will cost more and CCP is planning for them to have a multitude of skills to make them worth using a lot. "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus
ReGnYuM Escrow Removal and Acquisition 2346	Posted - 2014.03.01 20:38:00 - [40] - Quote Assaults Flip Objectives... Enough said Official Imperfect Title: Supreme Leader of the Endless Sunset I Slay, for thy Empress Do you even PC... Brah

Talos Alomar Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2076	Posted - 2014.03.01 20:53:00 - [41] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: In a 1v1 I'm better in assaults but when it comes to PC the team matters not your ego..therefor assaults have no place in PC a logi can do just as good and is more efficient for your team. Which I think CCP may be addressing with the equipment nerf. Logis are going to have to choose between being a decent slayer and running good equipment. Try to kill it all you want CCP, I still <3 my laser.
Heimdallr69 Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 1741	Posted - 2014.03.01 20:58:00 - [42] - Quote ReGnYuM wrote: Assaults Flip Objectives... Enough said You flip objectives, not assaults..you could flip an objective with any suit but that's the difference between you and other PC players.. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
CYRAX SERVIUS Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1052	Posted - 2014.03.01 21:05:00 - [43] - Quote Darken-Soul wrote: You guys are morons. Take a look at every bad ass corp. They are rocking primarily assaults. Watch pubstomps. Again assaults. I am sick of your crying asses. Sing it brother!!! CEO Whiskey squad leader Invictus Maneo~"I Remain Unvanquished"~
CYRAX SERVIUS Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1052	Posted - 2014.03.01 21:08:00 - [44] - Quote da GAND wrote: Darken-Soul wrote: You guys are morons. Take a look at every bad ass corp. They are rocking primarily assaults. Watch pubstomps. Again assaults. I am sick of your crying asses. Hey dumbs*** have you've seen the damage resistance the heavies are getting? The stats on all the heavies, supposedly the Minmatar heavy is gonna be able to be faster than most assault suits. Faster than an improperly fit assault, fcktard. CEO Whiskey squad leader Invictus Maneo~"I Remain Unvanquished"~
Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 1839	Posted - 2014.03.01 21:15:00 - [45] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Darken-Soul wrote: You guys are morons. Take a look at every bad ass corp. They are rocking primarily assaults. Watch pubstomps. Again assaults. I am sick of your crying asses. No, they are rocking primarily logis. Assaults are a rare thing in PC. Yup. gK.0 Dual Tanked Boundless/Kaalkalatia Rocking Logis all round. Between the scrubs who use that exact fit with a Militia Tank., them, and heavies who finally came out for the event, Thats pretty much the game right now. Looking for a Interesting Character Name? Why Not Zoidberg?
Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES 1364	Posted - 2014.03.01 22:32:00 - [46] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Darken-Soul wrote: Cat Merc wrote: To the OP: Assaults, unless there are some serious start changes, seem to be like the ret@rded step brother of the scout. You lose 100 HP (big whoop) and gain SO MUCH! Speed, more equipment, stealth, scanning, stamina etc'. Heavies and scouts will dominate the battlefield of 1.8. good. And that is why the Breach AR is useless, Flaylock is useless, Laser is useless, etc'. Because of people like you. explain that. I use these weapons for fun and do really well. Seems you just like crying. Who wants some?
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7800	Posted - 2014.03.01 22:33:00 - [47] - Quote Joseph Ridgeson wrote: Going off of the information released so far, it seems all of the Suits are kind of being pushed into a "this is what you are supposed to do." Sentinel: Defense, lots of EHP. Logistics: Support, specific bonus to racial equipment. Scout: Sneaky, meant to be hard to find or find people. Commando: Damage, bonus to light weapon damage while having high HP. Assault: I am really not sure; they just seem to be getting a bonus to fitting weapons and be better with a particular weapon. They don't do more damage than the Commando and don't have more HP so I am trying to see where their niche is. Even ignoring the fact that Logistics get more slots and therefore more HP than Assaults, what are Assaults supposed to do as a role in 1.8 compared to the other suits? Be well. Assault is about mobile DPS. IT always has been in EVE with assault ships, always will be. "War is not hell, far from it. War is beautiful. War is divine." - Grand Admiral Mekioth Sarum
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens League of Infamy 636	Posted - 2014.03.01 23:35:00 - [48] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Joseph Ridgeson wrote: Going off of the information released so far, it seems all of the Suits are kind of being pushed into a "this is what you are supposed to do." Sentinel: Defense, lots of EHP. Logistics: Support, specific bonus to racial equipment. Scout: Sneaky, meant to be hard to find or find people. Commando: Damage, bonus to light weapon damage while having high HP. Assault: I am really not sure; they just seem to be getting a bonus to fitting weapons and be better with a particular weapon. They don't do more damage than the Commando and don't have more HP so I am trying to see where their niche is. Even ignoring the fact that Logistics get more slots and therefore more HP than Assaults, what are Assaults supposed to do as a role in 1.8 compared to the other suits? Be well. Assault is about mobile DPS. IT always has been in EVE with assault ships, always will be. Right but they get bonuses that specifically help them deal damage, usually in the optimal range department. In 1.8, the Assaults Suit will not have such a bonus that makes it good at "assaulting."
Auris Lionesse Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance 302	Posted - 2014.03.01 23:47:00 - [49] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Joseph Ridgeson wrote: Going off of the information released so far, it seems all of the Suits are kind of being pushed into a "this is what you are supposed to do." Sentinel: Defense, lots of EHP. Logistics: Support, specific bonus to racial equipment. Scout: Sneaky, meant to be hard to find or find people. Commando: Damage, bonus to light weapon damage while having high HP. Assault: I am really not sure; they just seem to be getting a bonus to fitting weapons and be better with a particular weapon. They don't do more damage than the Commando and don't have more HP so I am trying to see where their niche is. Even ignoring the fact that Logistics get more slots and therefore more HP than Assaults, what are Assaults supposed to do as a role in 1.8 compared to the other suits? Be well. Assault is about mobile DPS. IT always has been in EVE with assault ships, always will be. For that to be true you'd have to nerf weapon damage by 25% and give each suit a damage buff for their racial weapon per level to bring it back up to where it currently is.
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens League of Infamy 639	Posted - 2014.03.02 05:48:00 - [50] - Quote I haven't seen anything that makes me think that the Assault dropsuit actually has a concrete role at this point and possibly even less once 1.8 drops.

The Robot Devil Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1781	Posted - 2014.03.02 05:53:00 - [51] - Quote Darken-Soul wrote: da GAND wrote: Darken-Soul wrote: You guys are morons. Take a look at every bad ass corp. They are rocking primarily assaults. Watch pubstomps. Again assaults. I am sick of your crying asses. Hey dumbs*** have you've seen the damage resistance the heavies are getting? The stats on all the heavies, supposedly the Minmatar heavy is gonna be able to be faster than most assault suits. so the will live .25 seconds longer. Big whoop. About the same amount of time the extra slot on a slayer logi gives you. "You people voted for Hubert Humphrey, and you killed Jesus." Raoul Duke
The Robot Devil Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1781	Posted - 2014.03.02 05:59:00 - [52] - Quote Darken-Soul wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Darken-Soul wrote: Cat Merc wrote: To the OP: Assaults, unless there are some serious start changes, seem to be like the ret@rded step brother of the scout. You lose 100 HP (big whoop) and gain SO MUCH! Speed, more equipment, stealth, scanning, stamina etc'. Heavies and scouts will dominate the battlefield of 1.8. good. And that is why the Breach AR is useless, Flaylock is useless, Laser is useless, etc'. Because of people like you. explain that. I use these weapons for fun and do really well. Seems you just like crying. The laser is not useless. It takes practice and range dictation but it isn't useless. If I was a better shot I would be very dangerous with a LR. I use the ELM all the time and it is almost perfect, it may be OP if the optimal is too wide or it is too good at a shorter range. "You people voted for Hubert Humphrey, and you killed Jesus." Raoul Duke
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 1176	Posted - 2014.03.02 08:22:00 - [53] - Quote ReGnYuM wrote: Assaults Flip Objectives... Enough said hack logis flip objectives :P welcome to PC
ALT2 acc 192	Posted - 2014.03.02 08:42:00 - [54] - Quote Johnny Guilt wrote: (Light)Assault jetpacks please. Oh and can we have an option to increase our movement speed too? Hater attractor proficiency 5, hater attractor optimization 5.
ALT2 acc 192	Posted - 2014.03.02 08:49:00 - [55] - Quote Martyr Saboteur wrote: Damage Application with racial weapons. Amarr: Lower heat buildup allows for higher damage application Caldari: Faster reloads allows for higher damage application. No, it doesnt Gallente: Less dispersion allows for higher damage application Minmatar: Larger magazines allow for higher damage application. Hater attractor proficiency 5, hater attractor optimization 5.
xSir Campsalotx G0DS AM0NG MEN D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 133	Posted - 2014.03.02 09:01:00 - [56] - Quote da GAND wrote: Darken-Soul wrote: You guys are morons. Take a look at every bad ass corp. They are rocking primarily assaults. Watch pubstomps. Again assaults. I am sick of your crying asses. Hey dumbs*** have you've seen the damage resistance the heavies are getting? The stats on all the heavies, supposedly the Minmatar heavy is gonna be able to be faster than most assault suits. 4.05m/s min heavy 4.80 Amarr assualt (slowest assualt suit) What are you getting at? G0DS AM0NG MEN Director Preferred fit 1 complex damage mod, 2 mlt kin cats, basic HMG, flux grenade on a std sentinel
ALT2 acc 192	Posted - 2014.03.02 09:02:00 - [57] - Quote xSir Campsalotx wrote: da GAND wrote: Darken-Soul wrote: You guys are morons. Take a look at every bad ass corp. They are rocking primarily assaults. Watch pubstomps. Again assaults. I am sick of your crying asses. Hey dumbs*** have you've seen the damage resistance the heavies are getting? The stats on all the heavies, supposedly the Minmatar heavy is gonna be able to be faster than most assault suits. 4.05m/s min heavy 4.80 Amarr assualt (slowest assualt suit) What are you getting at? Kincats Hater attractor proficiency 5, hater attractor optimization 5.
Broonfondle Majikthies Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day 901	Posted - 2014.03.02 10:43:00 - [58] - Quote To me the assault suit is rapid deployment and high weapon diversity. I run the Min Assault so its different to other suits but: I can engage an enemy, pull back, recover fast and engage again. Have the mobility to respond to threats Carry weapons the compliment each other, either covering weapon shortfalls or different damage types to take down enemies faster. For me if I want to defend a static point I'd prefer the Logi suits durability. If I'm going on the offensive or defending between points I prefer to the Assault suit as it can react better. Plus some weapons simply need a good sidearm -LR, MD ect "...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
HYENAKILLER X Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 645	Posted - 2014.03.02 11:00:00 - [59] - Quote Joseph Ridgeson wrote: Going off of the information released so far, it seems all of the Suits are kind of being pushed into a "this is what you are supposed to do." Sentinel: Defense, lots of EHP. Logistics: Support, specific bonus to racial equipment. Scout: Sneaky, meant to be hard to find or find people. Commando: Damage, bonus to light weapon damage while having high HP. Assault: I am really not sure; they just seem to be getting a bonus to fitting weapons and be better with a particular weapon. They don't do more damage than the Commando and don't have more HP so I am trying to see where their niche is. Even ignoring the fact that Logistics get more slots and therefore more HP than Assaults, what are Assaults supposed to do as a role in 1.8 compared to the other suits? Be well. I know for a fact gallente assaults are just big scouts. Once you veiw them that way its a whole new ball game. Armor tanking a gal assault is inefficient. Thats what logis are for. On my proto I can run 6.93 speed, have 650 ehp with a proto weapon/1x dmg mod and be almost unscannable with a quantum scanner. This game has a strange design curve that leans towards stealth later on that you never see coming that is insanely interesting. It is so good to be gallente right now........unless you like assault rifles. The you are fkd because only the duvolle is competitive right now. Tanks are for pussies.
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC Intara Direct Action Caldari State 421	Posted - 2014.03.02 11:22:00 - [60] - Quote Joseph Ridgeson wrote: Going off of the information released so far, it seems all of the Suits are kind of being pushed into a "this is what you are supposed to do." Sentinel: Defense, lots of EHP. Logistics: Support, specific bonus to racial equipment. Scout: Sneaky, meant to be hard to find or find people. Commando: Damage, bonus to light weapon damage while having high HP. Assault: I am really not sure; they just seem to be getting a bonus to fitting weapons and be better with a particular weapon. They don't do more damage than the Commando and don't have more HP so I am trying to see where their niche is. Even ignoring the fact that Logistics get more slots and therefore more HP than Assaults, what are Assaults supposed to do as a role in 1.8 compared to the other suits? Be well. Have you seen the new bonuses? Assaults will be better. To answer your question they are made to kill other people. These suits have defining characteristics, they are not in the slot load out, or the bonuses exclusively. Its in things like sprint speed, shield regen, stamina, stamina, regen, when compared to logis these suits are great for frontline fighting, particularly when it comes to flanking. Many people believe the logi is currently the superior engagement medium suit, this is of course not true. The assault suit is simply a slayer. The logi can slay and carry equipment but the superior ability of the assault suit is clear once you have proto out both.....

INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC Intara Direct Action Caldari State 428	Posted - 2014.03.02 11:26:00 - [61] - Quote HYENAKILLER X wrote: Joseph Ridgeson wrote: Going off of the information released so far, it seems all of the Suits are kind of being pushed into a "this is what you are supposed to do." Sentinel: Defense, lots of EHP. Logistics: Support, specific bonus to racial equipment. Scout: Sneaky, meant to be hard to find or find people. Commando: Damage, bonus to light weapon damage while having high HP. Assault: I am really not sure; they just seem to be getting a bonus to fitting weapons and be better with a particular weapon. They don't do more damage than the Commando and don't have more HP so I am trying to see where their niche is. Even ignoring the fact that Logistics get more slots and therefore more HP than Assaults, what are Assaults supposed to do as a role in 1.8 compared to the other suits? Be well. I know for a fact gallente assaults are just big scouts. Once you veiw them that way its a whole new ball game. Armor tanking a gal assault is inefficient. Thats what logis are for. On my proto I can run 6.93 speed, have 650 ehp with a proto weapon/1x dmg mod and be almost unscannable with a quantum scanner. This game has a strange design curve that leans towards stealth later on that you never see coming that is insanely interesting. It is so good to be gallente right now........unless you like assault rifles. The you are fkd because only the duvolle is competitive right now. Only the duvolle? No, I went 31 and 4 yesterday with my Dren AR and Dren BPO assault suit. Anything is competitive in the right situation.....
CYRAX SERVIUS Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1060	Posted - 2014.03.02 21:21:00 - [62] - Quote Joseph Ridgeson wrote: True Adamance wrote: Joseph Ridgeson wrote: Going off of the information released so far, it seems all of the Suits are kind of being pushed into a "this is what you are supposed to do." Sentinel: Defense, lots of EHP. Logistics: Support, specific bonus to racial equipment. Scout: Sneaky, meant to be hard to find or find people. Commando: Damage, bonus to light weapon damage while having high HP. Assault: I am really not sure; they just seem to be getting a bonus to fitting weapons and be better with a particular weapon. They don't do more damage than the Commando and don't have more HP so I am trying to see where their niche is. Even ignoring the fact that Logistics get more slots and therefore more HP than Assaults, what are Assaults supposed to do as a role in 1.8 compared to the other suits? Be well. Assault is about mobile DPS. IT always has been in EVE with assault ships, always will be. Right but they get bonuses that specifically help them deal damage, usually in the optimal range department. In 1.8, the Assaults Suit will not have such a bonus that makes it good at "assaulting." Assaulting is how you play the role, not the suit classification. Plenty of scouts out there going 20/2+, logi's the same, I call that assaulting. CEO Whiskey squad leader Invictus Maneo~"I Remain Unvanquished"~
CYRAX SERVIUS Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1060	Posted - 2014.03.02 21:26:00 - [63] - Quote HYENAKILLER X wrote: Joseph Ridgeson wrote: Going off of the information released so far, it seems all of the Suits are kind of being pushed into a "this is what you are supposed to do." Sentinel: Defense, lots of EHP. Logistics: Support, specific bonus to racial equipment. Scout: Sneaky, meant to be hard to find or find people. Commando: Damage, bonus to light weapon damage while having high HP. Assault: I am really not sure; they just seem to be getting a bonus to fitting weapons and be better with a particular weapon. They don't do more damage than the Commando and don't have more HP so I am trying to see where their niche is. Even ignoring the fact that Logistics get more slots and therefore more HP than Assaults, what are Assaults supposed to do as a role in 1.8 compared to the other suits? Be well. I know for a fact gallente assaults are just big scouts. Once you veiw them that way its a whole new ball game. Armor tanking a gal assault is inefficient. Thats what logis are for. On my proto I can run 6.93 speed, have 650 ehp with a proto weapon/1x dmg mod and be almost unscannable with a quantum scanner. This game has a strange design curve that leans towards stealth later on that you never see coming that is insanely interesting. It is so good to be gallente right now........unless you like assault rifles. The you are fkd because only the duvolle is competitive right now. Then you are doing something wrong, went 41/6 with a toxin AR on a Raven BPO 3 hours ago, AR's are just fine. CEO Whiskey squad leader Invictus Maneo~"I Remain Unvanquished"~
Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 1863	Posted - 2014.03.02 21:51:00 - [64] - Quote Joseph Ridgeson wrote: Going off of the information released so far, it seems all of the Suits are kind of being pushed into a "this is what you are supposed to do." Sentinel: Defense, lots of EHP. Logistics: Support, specific bonus to racial equipment. Scout: Sneaky, meant to be hard to find or find people. Commando: Damage, bonus to light weapon damage while having high HP. Assault: I am really not sure; they just seem to be getting a bonus to fitting weapons and be better with a particular weapon. They don't do more damage than the Commando and don't have more HP so I am trying to see where their niche is. Even ignoring the fact that Logistics get more slots and therefore more HP than Assaults, what are Assaults supposed to do as a role in 1.8 compared to the other suits? Be well. Baby Commandos. With the upcoming 1.8, Assaults will have a sidearm as well as roughly equal EHP (as logi's will then finally have to fit a self repper), being faster then logi's and heavies, and with a smaller htibox as opposed to Commandos or Heavies. I think 1.8 will neatly entail the roles that each class should be doing, and then subdividing the smaller bits within the races (logi's for example, every racial logi will specialize in a specific Equipment, or heavies look like they specialize in different tanking/combat styles, minnies being Hit and run, Gallente for Logiless Assault, Caldari for Shield Combat overal, and Amarr for Logi Supported Defense). One thing that has me thinking however,is that the subsects that the other classes divided themselves among seem to be missing in the Assaults. They all seem to be about straight up fighting, with no real difference among the races. The only thing that differs among the races is the Tanking style, nothing else about the assaults are diversified. Which can be seen as a blessing, and as a curse. Its so simple so that if you accidently skill into a race you don't really like, the differences are marginal between the races of the assaults that it won't really affect you, but also it leaves the class devoid of items that perform better in said role the another race. Because you Wanted to be Something your Not.
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC Intara Direct Action Caldari State 429	Posted - 2014.03.02 22:31:00 - [65] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: ReGnYuM wrote: Assaults Flip Objectives... Enough said You flip objectives, not assaults..you could flip an objective with any suit but that's the difference between you and other PC players.. You going to suck him off too?
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC Intara Direct Action Caldari State 429	Posted - 2014.03.02 22:32:00 - [66] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: Joseph Ridgeson wrote: Going off of the information released so far, it seems all of the Suits are kind of being pushed into a "this is what you are supposed to do." Sentinel: Defense, lots of EHP. Logistics: Support, specific bonus to racial equipment. Scout: Sneaky, meant to be hard to find or find people. Commando: Damage, bonus to light weapon damage while having high HP. Assault: I am really not sure; they just seem to be getting a bonus to fitting weapons and be better with a particular weapon. They don't do more damage than the Commando and don't have more HP so I am trying to see where their niche is. Even ignoring the fact that Logistics get more slots and therefore more HP than Assaults, what are Assaults supposed to do as a role in 1.8 compared to the other suits? Be well. Baby Commandos. With the upcoming 1.8, Assaults will have a sidearm as well as roughly equal EHP (as logi's will then finally have to fit a self repper), being faster then logi's and heavies, and with a smaller htibox as opposed to Commandos or Heavies. I think 1.8 will neatly entail the roles that each class should be doing, and then subdividing the smaller bits within the races (logi's for example, every racial logi will specialize in a specific Equipment, or heavies look like they specialize in different tanking/combat styles, minnies being Hit and run, Gallente for Logiless Assault, Caldari for Shield Combat overal, and Amarr for Logi Supported Defense). One thing that has me thinking however,is that the subsects that the other classes divided themselves among seem to be missing in the Assaults. They all seem to be about straight up fighting, with no real difference among the races. The only thing that differs among the races is the Tanking style, nothing else about the assaults are diversified. Which can be seen as a blessing, and as a curse. Its so simple so that if you accidently skill into a race you don't really like, the differences are marginal between the races of the assaults that it won't really affect you, but also it leaves the class devoid of items that perform better in said role the another race. Your last paragraph is completely wrong.
Heimdallr69 Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 1749	Posted - 2014.03.02 22:36:00 - [67] - Quote INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: ReGnYuM wrote: Assaults Flip Objectives... Enough said You flip objectives, not assaults..you could flip an objective with any suit but that's the difference between you and other PC players.. You going to suck him off too? Yeah, I am actually. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Scheneighnay McBob Learning Coalition College 4189	Posted - 2014.03.02 22:57:00 - [68] - Quote Assaults are shock troops, commandos are area-denial. That's the difference. I am your scan error.
Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 1867	Posted - 2014.03.02 23:02:00 - [69] - Quote INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: Joseph Ridgeson wrote: Going off of the information released so far, it seems all of the Suits are kind of being pushed into a "this is what you are supposed to do." Sentinel: Defense, lots of EHP. Logistics: Support, specific bonus to racial equipment. Scout: Sneaky, meant to be hard to find or find people. Commando: Damage, bonus to light weapon damage while having high HP. Assault: I am really not sure; they just seem to be getting a bonus to fitting weapons and be better with a particular weapon. They don't do more damage than the Commando and don't have more HP so I am trying to see where their niche is. Even ignoring the fact that Logistics get more slots and therefore more HP than Assaults, what are Assaults supposed to do as a role in 1.8 compared to the other suits? Be well. Baby Commandos. With the upcoming 1.8, Assaults will have a sidearm as well as roughly equal EHP (as logi's will then finally have to fit a self repper), being faster then logi's and heavies, and with a smaller htibox as opposed to Commandos or Heavies. I think 1.8 will neatly entail the roles that each class should be doing, and then subdividing the smaller bits within the races (logi's for example, every racial logi will specialize in a specific Equipment, or heavies look like they specialize in different tanking/combat styles, minnies being Hit and run, Gallente for Logiless Assault, Caldari for Shield Combat overal, and Amarr for Logi Supported Defense). One thing that has me thinking however,is that the subsects that the other classes divided themselves among seem to be missing in the Assaults. They all seem to be about straight up fighting, with no real difference among the races. The only thing that differs among the races is the Tanking style, nothing else about the assaults are diversified. Which can be seen as a blessing, and as a curse. Its so simple so that if you accidently skill into a race you don't really like, the differences are marginal between the races of the assaults that it won't really affect you, but also it leaves the class devoid of items that perform better in said role the another race. Your last paragraph is completely wrong. Err, Thank you for pointing that out? Why? The only differences between the assault suits is the tanking style, the small bonuses to the suits to the racial weapons, and equally small base stat differences (minnies are .5 meters faster! ohhhhhhh) Assault suits are very similar. Because you Wanted to be Something your Not.
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens League of Infamy 647	Posted - 2014.03.03 18:03:00 - [70] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: Joseph Ridgeson wrote: Going off of the information released so far, it seems all of the Suits are kind of being pushed into a "this is what you are supposed to do." Sentinel: Defense, lots of EHP. Logistics: Support, specific bonus to racial equipment. Scout: Sneaky, meant to be hard to find or find people. Commando: Damage, bonus to light weapon damage while having high HP. Assault: I am really not sure; they just seem to be getting a bonus to fitting weapons and be better with a particular weapon. They don't do more damage than the Commando and don't have more HP so I am trying to see where their niche is. Even ignoring the fact that Logistics get more slots and therefore more HP than Assaults, what are Assaults supposed to do as a role in 1.8 compared to the other suits? Be well. Baby Commandos. With the upcoming 1.8, Assaults will have a sidearm as well as roughly equal EHP (as logi's will then finally have to fit a self repper), being faster then logi's and heavies, and with a smaller htibox as opposed to Commandos or Heavies. I think 1.8 will neatly entail the roles that each class should be doing, and then subdividing the smaller bits within the races (logi's for example, every racial logi will specialize in a specific Equipment, or heavies look like they specialize in different tanking/combat styles, minnies being Hit and run, Gallente for Logiless Assault, Caldari for Shield Combat overal, and Amarr for Logi Supported Defense). One thing that has me thinking however,is that the subsects that the other classes divided themselves among seem to be missing in the Assaults. They all seem to be about straight up fighting, with no real difference among the races. The only thing that differs among the races is the Tanking style, nothing else about the assaults are diversified. Which can be seen as a blessing, and as a curse. Its so simple so that if you accidently skill into a race you don't really like, the differences are marginal between the races of the assaults that it won't really affect you, but also it leaves the class devoid of items that perform better in said role the another race. Logistics, Sentinel, Scout, and Commando are getting defined into roles while Assault really isn't. Saying that an Assault is a Baby Commando is kind of backwards. Imagine a scenario where I have a two landlines. One landline is defined into a smartphone; would you consider the landline a baby smartphone or that the smartphone actually has direction and purpose? Don't get me wrong, the landline does have some advantages; longer battery life, cheaper, it is easier for grandma to understand but it doesn't mean that the landline has a fit purpose like the smartphone does. The thread really wasn't about how Logistics are better Assaults but my one line did push it that way. Saying that losing their innate 5 hp/s makes them have to have a self-repairer thereby making the health closer is a little off. The Assault has to have a self-repairer to by that logic and the Logistics still have more slots. Plus, the Logistics could just carry a bunch of triage hives. But again, I don't mean for it to be about Logistics > Assault. Logistics actually has a defined role, helping people through equipment whereas the Assault doesn't seem to have any CCP defined role. People can say they are 'better at assaulting' but that is just in the name of the character. They don't have bonuses where you would go "boy howdy this will be good for assaulting." Gallente hip-fire will be tighter, Minmatar and Amarr will be able to shoot for greater times, and Caldari will be able to reload faster. This doesn't have direction. The Commando is clear; more damage with racial weapons. Logistics is clear; more efficient with racial equipment. The Scout, while not as blatant as the other two, is clear; Gallente will not be found, Caldari will have a superior radar system, the Minmatar will be the Minjas again, and the Amarr will not be used (seriously, change the bonus) or at least be able to be able to run longer by a couple seconds. The Scout bonuses help at being sneaky. Flip objectives, be invisible to active scanners, have godly passive scanners, again the Amarr one needs to change to be in line with sneaky. With the Assault, you could say that they are better at prolonged engagements because of being able to shoot more but the Gallente and Caldari one don't help in that regard. You could say they are better at close range fighting, but the Caldari, Amarr, and Minmatar one don't help in that regard. Simply put, ending this wall, when you look at the Logistics, Commando, Sentinel, and Scout bonuses you can immediately tell the theme that the Scout itself and the Racial Scout is going for. For me, I can't do that with Assaults.

Rei Shepard The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback 1613	Posted - 2014.03.03 18:29:00 - [71] - Quote Joseph Ridgeson wrote: Going off of the information released so far, it seems all of the Suits are kind of being pushed into a "this is what you are supposed to do." Sentinel: Defense, lots of EHP. Logistics: Support, specific bonus to racial equipment. Scout: Sneaky, meant to be hard to find or find people. Commando: Damage, bonus to light weapon damage while having high HP. Assault: I am really not sure; they just seem to be getting a bonus to fitting weapons and be better with a particular weapon. They don't do more damage than the Commando and don't have more HP so I am trying to see where their niche is. Even ignoring the fact that Logistics get more slots and therefore more HP than Assaults, what are Assaults supposed to do as a role in 1.8 compared to the other suits? Be well. This time i am going for the suit with the most slots, as sadly thats the best suit to use or adapt to various playstyles, i am done with having only 6 slots while other suits got 7-9 to play with. Every fit i could do on my Amarr suit was 1.5 times better on the 9 slot suit, though i only had it at level 3 to just test out the suit and not run it 24/7 as i figured, hey CCP will fix those FOTM suits anyyy second now ...(fast forward 8 months ...annyyy second...oh ....they didnt .... The stuff assaults are getting as part of the rebalance really has to be in the slot layouts, otherwise i dont get it, is there even any info about their slot layouts floating on the forum that ive missed? Because the new bonusses are just the old bonusses from a couple of patches ago. ps: i am gonna be very afraid from a Heavy suit with a light weapon in 1.8, yer just not gonna be dropping one before you run out of EHP, especially using the Scrambler Rifle and the nerf to the damage components and resists on the heavy suits, while the Assault will still be quite the same. Winner of the EU Squad Cup "Go Go Power Rangers!" "Accuracy"
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1463	Posted - 2014.03.03 19:49:00 - [72] - Quote Rei Shepard wrote: Joseph Ridgeson wrote: Going off of the information released so far, it seems all of the Suits are kind of being pushed into a "this is what you are supposed to do." Sentinel: Defense, lots of EHP. Logistics: Support, specific bonus to racial equipment. Scout: Sneaky, meant to be hard to find or find people. Commando: Damage, bonus to light weapon damage while having high HP. Assault: I am really not sure; they just seem to be getting a bonus to fitting weapons and be better with a particular weapon. They don't do more damage than the Commando and don't have more HP so I am trying to see where their niche is. Even ignoring the fact that Logistics get more slots and therefore more HP than Assaults, what are Assaults supposed to do as a role in 1.8 compared to the other suits? Be well. This time i am going for the suit with the most slots, as sadly thats the best suit to use or adapt to various playstyles, i am done with having only 6 slots while other suits got 7-9 to play with. Every fit i could do on my Amarr suit was 1.5 times better on the 9 slot suit, though i only had it at level 3 to just test out the suit and not run it 24/7 as i figured, hey CCP will fix those FOTM suits anyyy second now ...(fast forward 8 months ...annyyy second...oh ....they didnt .... The stuff assaults are getting as part of the rebalance really has to be in the slot layouts, otherwise i dont get it, is there even any info about their slot layouts floating on the forum that ive missed? Because the new bonusses are just the old bonusses from a couple of patches ago. ps: i am gonna be very afraid from a Heavy suit with a light weapon in 1.8, yer just not gonna be dropping one before you run out of EHP, especially using the Scrambler Rifle and the nerf to the damage components and resists on the heavy suits, while the Assault will still be quite the same. Minmatar commando. 2 high 2 low 2 light ;) You already got HP and damage mods built into the suit. Drop it like its hat.
Dauth Jenkins Ultramarine Corp 139	Posted - 2014.03.03 20:32:00 - [73] - Quote Johnny Guilt wrote: (Light)Assault jetpacks please. No, I've never liked jetpacks in games Sees prototompers... Sees blueberries start to snipe... Pulls out commando suit with laser rifle and swarm launcher...
ALT2 acc 219	Posted - 2014.03.03 20:35:00 - [74] - Quote Dauth Jenkins wrote: Johnny Guilt wrote: (Light)Assault jetpacks please. No, I've never liked jetpacks in games Go play ps2 and say that again, well maybe its a bit tok slow but whatevs Trolling proficiency 5
Dauth Jenkins Ultramarine Corp 139	Posted - 2014.03.03 20:37:00 - [75] - Quote ALT2 acc wrote: Dauth Jenkins wrote: Johnny Guilt wrote: (Light)Assault jetpacks please. No, I've never liked jetpacks in games Go play ps2 and say that again, well maybe its a bit too slow but whatevs Lol, still have mine next to my PS3.... so yea.... Sees prototompers... Sees blueberries start to snipe... Pulls out commando suit with laser rifle and swarm launcher...
ALT2 acc 219	Posted - 2014.03.03 20:38:00 - [76] - Quote Dauth Jenkins wrote: ALT2 acc wrote: Dauth Jenkins wrote: Johnny Guilt wrote: (Light)Assault jetpacks please. No, I've never liked jetpacks in games Go play ps2 and say that again, well maybe its a bit too slow but whatevs Lol, still have mine next to my PS3.... so yea.... Planet.side.2. Trolling proficiency 5
Fire of Prometheus Alpha Response Command 3922	Posted - 2014.03.03 20:39:00 - [77] - Quote Assault = pu$$y commando Jk Seriosuly though, they are commandos with better mobility Scout- "I'm going to knife you my commando!!!" commando turns around Commando- "FAAAAALCCCOOONNNNN PUUUUNNNCCCCHH!!"
Phazoid The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 256	Posted - 2014.03.03 20:48:00 - [78] - Quote assaults are the numbers, they are the bulk of an army, they do the dying We speak the Dragon's language of flame and rage. Together we shall weave a tale of destruction without equal...
Talos Alomar Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2088	Posted - 2014.03.03 21:59:00 - [79] - Quote Fire of Prometheus wrote: Assault = pu$$y commando Jk Seriosuly though, they are commandos with better mobility and HP regen. I don't want a logi stuffed up my @ss all match. Balls. That is all.
ReGnYuM Escrow Removal and Acquisition 2391	Posted - 2014.03.03 22:58:00 - [80] - Quote Phazoid wrote: assaults are the numbers, they are the bulk of an army, they do the dying Do they? Official Imperfect Title: Supreme Leader of the Endless Sunset I Slay, for thy Empress Do you even PC... Brah

Fire of Prometheus Alpha Response Command 3944	Posted - 2014.03.03 23:00:00 - [81] - Quote Talos Alomar wrote: Fire of Prometheus wrote: Assault = pu$$y commando Jk Seriosuly though, they are commandos with better mobility and HP regen. I don't want a logi stuffed up my @ss all match. True, a few of us commandos are trying to change that though commando loses some tank for better regen MinScout- "I'm going to knife you my commando" commando turns around Commando- "FAAAAALCCCOOONNNNN PUUUUNNNCCCCHH!!"
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens League of Infamy 654	Posted - 2014.03.04 18:34:00 - [82] - Quote Bump, hopefully for some more discussion (you can talk to Mr. Saberwing!)
Mobius Wyvern Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 4691	Posted - 2014.03.04 23:23:00 - [83] - Quote Talos Alomar wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: Oh, and they still get less slots than Logistic suits, because the slot counts aren't being changed. That's right, gentlemen, the primary reason everyone uses Logistic suits for killing is NOT being changed. Which is just kind of silly. Agreed. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector


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