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Knight Solitaire Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 424	Posted - 2014.03.01 17:02:00 - [31] - Quote ER-Bullitt wrote: Knight Solitaire wrote: ER-Bullitt wrote: Equipment immune to flux grenades: Rep Tool Scanner Revive Needle C'mon bro. Scanner is getting a nerf, and the Revive Needle doesn't need a counter. Blah, when you make a blatant statement like "Why should the Rep Tool be the only EQ immune to a Flux Nade?" you force me to correct your failed logic/argument. Of course the revive needle doesn't need a counter, lol. And the rep tool requires a player to do absolutely nothing but repair. They cant shoot, cant drop other equipment, cant sprint, cant even throw a grenade without completely stopping the repair. I think you have earned this now... get gud scrub Of course! All they have to do is hold R1! Such skill, much 1337, very hard Corporation: Fatal Absolution Alliance: General Tso's Alliance
Martyr Saboteur Amarrtyrs 185	Posted - 2014.03.01 19:22:00 - [32] - Quote Get 2 people to focus fire on the heavy, that will kill him. Then kill the Logi, which shouldn't be too hard if he's got a Core Focused Tool. 2 Players using decent weapons > Heavy-Logi Combo > Solo Player. Totally not Fizzer94's forum alt. Definitely just a random dude.
PIGDOG 7 OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1	Posted - 2014.03.01 19:48:00 - [33] - Quote Seems there's some lame ass posts today. As I've said before: 10 cc's of man the f@)k up to anybody who takes a heavy/logi combo, dies and then cries about it here. Bacon? I still love it
Knight Solitaire Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 426	Posted - 2014.03.01 19:56:00 - [34] - Quote PIGDOG 7 wrote: Seems there's some lame ass posts today. As I've said before: 10 cc's of man the f@)k up to anybody who takes a heavy/logi combo, dies and then cries about it here. Crying? I'm asking them to add another counter. Other than "Sorry bro, you need players with 1k DPS weapons hitting him at the same time to take him down" "What about alpha weapons?" "Dafuq is an alpha weapon?" I never said it was specifically Heavies too, even a Gallente Logi can get a comparable tank, is faster, and can carry Weapons with longer range, oh and can also carry Equipment. Its you people assuming with your Reading Comprehension Level 1 that I was talking about Heavies. Corporation: Fatal Absolution Alliance: General Tso's Alliance
xSir Campsalotx G0DS AM0NG MEN D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 133	Posted - 2014.03.01 20:07:00 - [35] - Quote Core tool reps at 175 a second, sentinel has round 1200 armor fully plated. Combat rifle does around 1100dps to armor meaning in 1 sec the cr wins over by 925 damage meaning about 1.3 seconds of continuous fire will kill a heavy with a core repair tool on him. So with 2 ppl its little over half a second, what's the problem again. G0DS AM0NG MEN Director Preferred fit 1 complex damage mod, 2 mlt kin cats, basic HMG, flux grenade on a std sentinel
PIGDOG 7 OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1	Posted - 2014.03.01 20:09:00 - [36] - Quote 10 cc's of man the f@)k up to anybody who takes a heavy/logi combo, dies and then cries about it here.[/quote] Crying? I'm asking them to add another counter. Other than "Sorry bro, you need players with 1k DPS weapons hitting him at the same time to take him down" "What about alpha weapons?" "Dafuq is an alpha weapon?" I never said it was specifically Heavies too, even a Gallente Logi can get a comparable tank, is faster, and can carry Weapons with longer range, oh and can also carry Equipment. Its you people assuming with your Reading Comprehension Level 1 that I was talking about Heavies. I do see your point but I just think CCP needs to look at others things first before this. Bacon? I still love it
Knight Solitaire Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 427	Posted - 2014.03.01 20:11:00 - [37] - Quote PIGDOG 7 wrote: I do see your point but I just think CCP needs to look at others things first before this. It may not be a massive problem right now, but just wait for this Heavy buff. Corporation: Fatal Absolution Alliance: General Tso's Alliance
Atiim 5161	Posted - 2014.03.01 20:15:00 - [38] - Quote Knight Solitaire wrote: NewOldMan wrote: Knight Solitaire wrote: NewOldMan wrote: If so, make the flux nade disable your guns. Why? Why disable a repair tool? Just due to the fact that it's an equipment? Repair tools are powered from your suit. The same way your guns are. What other counter is there to the Rep Tool + Heavy combo? Other than zerging them? You can say "Shoot at the Logi!", but the Heavy will probably have you dead by then and even if you do manage to kill the +700HP Logi you still have the +1.2k HP Heavy to deal with. High Alpha Weapons? Remote Explosives? Shotgun From Behind? There's also the concentrated fire option. The heavy/logi combo requires two people, so why shouldn't it require two people to destroy? Atiim (Gunnlogi - 80GJ Particle Cannon) Tank Scrub [s]Text[/s] <---------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Knight Solitaire Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 427	Posted - 2014.03.01 20:16:00 - [39] - Quote xSir Campsalotx wrote: Core tool reps at 175 a second, sentinel has round 1200 armor fully plated. Combat rifle does around 1100dps to armor meaning in 1 sec the cr wins over by 925 damage meaning about 1.3 seconds of continuous fire will kill a heavy with a core repair tool on him. So with 2 ppl its little over half a second, what's the problem again. The Base DPS of a Boundless is 704. Thats not counting the Armour Bonus though (What was it again for Projectiles? 10% or 5%?) Corporation: Fatal Absolution Alliance: General Tso's Alliance
Knight Solitaire Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 427	Posted - 2014.03.01 20:18:00 - [40] - Quote Atiim wrote: High Alpha Weapons? Remote Explosives? Shotgun From Behind? Shotguns aren't that great for a situation like this. 2-3 Shots to kill the Logi, 4-5 to kill the Heavy, means you'll be cutting it short on ammo, and chances are by the time you've hit the Logi, he is already warning his Heavy over comms allowing the Heavy to turn around and blow away the Shotgunner before he can get another shot off. You've also got to remember what 1.8 will di to Heavies. Corporation: Fatal Absolution Alliance: General Tso's Alliance

John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 2179	Posted - 2014.03.01 20:30:00 - [41] - Quote I do seem to die an awful lot for being so OP. I guess I need to skill into those modules that make you immune to grenade spam because it seems to work pretty darn well. "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Forum Warrior lv.2 Amarr victor!
ER-Bullitt Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1155	Posted - 2014.03.01 20:52:00 - [42] - Quote Knight Solitaire wrote: I never said it was specifically Heavies too, Its you people assuming with your Reading Comprehension Level 1 that I was talking about Heavies. Why are you trolling these poor folks. Perhaps you need some lessons on how to express your thoughts properly. Our reading comprehension is perfectly fine, its your position and stance on this subject that is flip flopping like a pair of old sandles. To remind you, you wrote this: Knight Solitaire wrote: NewOldMan wrote: Why disable a repair tool? Just due to the fact that it's an equipment? Repair tools are powered from your suit. The same way your guns are. What other counter is there to the Rep Tool + Heavy combo? Other than zerging them? You can say "Shoot at the Logi!", but the Heavy will probably have you dead by then and even if you do manage to kill the +700HP Logi you still have the +1.2k HP Heavy to deal with. You specifically cite heavies (see bold text, 3 times) yet we are supposed to assume you aren't talking about heavies. Dafuq? Knight Solitaire wrote: even a Gallente Logi can get a comparable tank, is faster, and can carry Weapons with longer range, oh and can also carry Equipment. Now you force me to school you more.. Define comparable? Iif you stack 3x Comp Shield Extenders, 5x Complex Armor Plates on a Pro Gallente Logi.. not only do you fall short of a Pro Sentinel Heavy by about 500+ hit points, and about 400+ hitpoints short of a tanked Pro Basic Amarr Heavy. You actually will not be any faster in movement speed because you stacked all that armor onto the logi. Any movement speed difference will be negligible at best. Also, heavies can equip light weapons too, so that point is null and void. And if you are stacking that much tank on a gal logi, you will not have enough CPU/PG left to fit anything besides 1-2 pieces of cheap equipment. How do I know this, because I run both of those suits. Perhaps you should stop talking out of your ass and take the advice I have already given you. This combo you apparently have so much trouble with is far from unbeatable if you apply yourself, trust me I know (from both sides).
ER-Bullitt Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1156	Posted - 2014.03.01 21:10:00 - [43] - Quote Knight Solitaire wrote: Shotguns aren't that great for a situation like this. 2-3 Shots to kill the Logi 2 shots max from a properly skilled/fitted scout shotgunner. Knight Solitaire wrote: 4-5 to kill the Heavy 4 shots max. I can kill a Pro Sentinel Heavy with 4 shots from my dren shotgun, on a dren scout, with no damage mods and zero skill points in shotguns. Knight Solitaire wrote: means you'll be cutting it short on ammo, and chances are by the time you've hit the Logi, he is already warning his Heavy over comms allowing the Heavy to turn around and blow away the Shotgunner before he can get another shot off. So you have just killed the logi with 2 shots (yes that's how many shots it takes for good scout/shotgunners who are behind me up close to take down my well tanked proto gal logi)... yet you stick around long enough (remember you are in a speedy scout shotgun flank suit) to let the heavy turn his fat ass around and pummel you with his HMG? Why wouldn't you pop the logi, and take cover... you have killed 1/2 of the "unbeatable" combo, don't just stand there.. be a scout! And again you are presenting us with a hypothetical scenario where you want to defeat a 2 man combo by yourself. Didn't we already go over this? That is not balance... Knight Solitaire wrote: You've also got to remember what 1.8 will di to Heavies. Why don't we just wait and see what 1.8 brings before you start the QQ train in motion.
Knight Solitaire Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 434	Posted - 2014.03.01 21:25:00 - [44] - Quote Yeah, I'll take cover and allow the Logi to spawn back in within 3s and start repping the Heavy again. Time and ammo wasted. And I've seen your Gal Logi suit with what is it 700 - 800 armour? (And I'm the one that needs to 'Git gud'? Lol) EDIT: I used Heavies as an example, I never said it was just Heavies. Corporation: Fatal Absolution Alliance: General Tso's Alliance
ER-Bullitt Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1156	Posted - 2014.03.01 21:28:00 - [45] - Quote Yeah, you've seen it while laying dead on your back many times. lol
Meee One The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day 426	Posted - 2014.03.01 21:31:00 - [46] - Quote If this happens,everyone will carry fluxes. It will make my rep tool a big paper weight. Considering i'm 100% helpless while using it,i don't see this as remotely fair. I guess i could use that slot for something else....maybe REs.... Only users lose drugs. Time wounds all heels.
Knight Solitaire Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 434	Posted - 2014.03.01 21:40:00 - [47] - Quote ER-Bullitt wrote: Yeah, you've seen it while laying dead on your back many times. While you're down there, get your shine box. lol Even if you did. It was never you that caused the deaths, I've never even played against you. Going to be so funny when we get called in to defend Molon once the district locking is put to an end. Corporation: Fatal Absolution Alliance: General Tso's Alliance
Snow Turtle R 0 N 1 N 10	Posted - 2014.03.01 21:44:00 - [48] - Quote Knight Solitaire wrote: Yeah, I'll take cover and allow the Logi to spawn back in within 3s and start repping the Heavy again. Time and ammo wasted. What makes you think the Logi is going to spawn in and get back to his heavy in 3 seconds? That would require a Proto Uplink right next to the heavy. Here's a thought; Why don't you just use you precious Flux Grenade you want buffed so badly to take out the uplinks? Problem solved! Caldari Scout. Dedicated Saga Pilot. Knives, Needles, and Road Kill. "Don't be dead, be happy!" -Snow Turtle
xSir Campsalotx G0DS AM0NG MEN D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 133	Posted - 2014.03.01 21:49:00 - [49] - Quote Knight Solitaire wrote: xSir Campsalotx wrote: Core tool reps at 175 a second, sentinel has round 1200 armor fully plated. Combat rifle does around 1100dps to armor meaning in 1 sec the cr wins over by 925 damage meaning about 1.3 seconds of continuous fire will kill a heavy with a core repair tool on him. So with 2 ppl its little over half a second, what's the problem again. The Base DPS of a Boundless is 704. Thats not counting the Armour Bonus though (What was it again for Projectiles? 10% or 5%?) Base but damage mods are wide spread as are profs in this weapon 95% to shield 110% armor. G0DS AM0NG MEN Director Preferred fit 1 complex damage mod, 2 mlt kin cats, basic HMG, flux grenade on a std sentinel
ER-Bullitt Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1156	Posted - 2014.03.01 22:21:00 - [50] - Quote Knight Solitaire wrote: ER-Bullitt wrote: Yeah, you've seen it while laying dead on your back many times. While you're down there, get your shine box. lol Even if you did. It was never you that caused the deaths, I've never even played against you. Going to be so funny when we get called in to defend Molon once the district locking is put to an end. So I take it you are done qq'ing, you have no more failed logic to provide to try and support your ridiculous suggestion, and have now resorted to baseless insults. Can't say I'm surprised. I don't think we would want someone fighting for us who cant even figure out how to defeat a heavy/logi combo. Heck, our brand new recruits with 3 million SP can figure out how to counter this combo better than you can. If we do ask FA for help, I hope they send someone else. lol You really want to continue this kiddo? cause I have logic for days...

Knight Solitaire Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 435	Posted - 2014.03.01 22:29:00 - [51] - Quote ER-Bullitt wrote: So I take it you are done qq'ing, you have no more failed logic to provide to try and support your ridiculous suggestion, and have now resorted to baseless insults. Can't say I'm surprised. I don't think we would want someone fighting for us who cant even figure out how to defeat a heavy/logi combo. Heck, our brand new recruits with 3 million SP can figure out how to counter this combo better than you can. If we do ask FA for help, I hope they send someone else. lol You really want to continue this kiddo? cause I have logic for days... I wouldn't want to be there anyway, I'd rather see you lose everything, and of course there is always the slight chance of catching some kind of STI from all the previous ringers Molon have used. You needed to hire us for matches Vs Pradox / Phoenix. lel. Corporation: Fatal Absolution Alliance: General Tso's Alliance
ER-Bullitt Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1156	Posted - 2014.03.01 22:31:00 - [52] - Quote Knight Solitaire wrote: I wouldn't want to be there anyway, At least we agree on something.
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC Intara Direct Action Caldari State 420	Posted - 2014.03.01 22:34:00 - [53] - Quote Knight Solitaire wrote: NewOldMan wrote: Knight Solitaire wrote: NewOldMan wrote: If so, make the flux nade disable your guns. Why? Why disable a repair tool? Just due to the fact that it's an equipment? Repair tools are powered from your suit. The same way your guns are. What other counter is there to the Rep Tool + Heavy combo? Other than zerging them? You can say "Shoot at the Logi!", but the Heavy will probably have you dead by then and even if you do manage to kill the +700HP Logi you still have the +1.2k HP Heavy to deal with. First the logi rep tool heavy combo is inherenly weak, when you have a dedicated repper on a heavy you have essentially 1 less enemy, think of this awesome train of hmg death as a single entity. Thus if there are 2 sets of these their team has 14 players, but 2 of them are badass. Once you see it like this its simply a matter of teamwork, overwhelming with numbers, flank and attack simultaneously from multiple angles, lots of flux, CONCENTRATED FIRE, and for now Remote Explosives as far as you can sling em....... This mix, or combo is essential. Also high ground with most rifles work well to shoot down onto heavies with.....
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC Intara Direct Action Caldari State 420	Posted - 2014.03.01 22:49:00 - [54] - Quote ER-Bullitt wrote: Yeah, you've seen it while laying dead on your back many times. While you're down there, get your shine box. lol Ohhhhh great movie reference, and ome of my favs, Joe, was good jn dem days...
ER-Bullitt Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1157	Posted - 2014.03.01 22:53:00 - [55] - Quote INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote: ER-Bullitt wrote: Yeah, you've seen it while laying dead on your back many times. While you're down there, get your shine box. lol Ohhhhh great movie reference, and ome of my favs, Joe, was good jn dem days... Hell yeah! And by the way.. I woudnt waste your time trying to have a debate with this fool. He is immune to logic and clearly has been butthurt by enough rep tools to hate them for lyfe.
SteelheadPep SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 53	Posted - 2014.03.01 22:59:00 - [56] - Quote Knight Solitaire wrote: ER-Bullitt wrote: Knight Solitaire wrote: ER-Bullitt wrote: Equipment immune to flux grenades: Rep Tool Scanner Revive Needle C'mon bro. Scanner is getting a nerf, and the Revive Needle doesn't need a counter. Blah, when you make a blatant statement like "Why should the Rep Tool be the only EQ immune to a Flux Nade?" you force me to correct your failed logic/argument. Of course the revive needle doesn't need a counter, lol. And the rep tool requires a player to do absolutely nothing but repair. They cant shoot, cant drop other equipment, cant sprint, cant even throw a grenade without completely stopping the repair. I think you have earned this now... get gud scrub Of course! All they have to do is hold R1! Such skill, much 1337, very hard So now the real reason comes to the surface your upset with the fact that a support logi can get more WPs than you, interesting.With the current TTK support logis are easy targets even tanking, I have seen heavies drop like they had milt gear, I think you will not have to worry about us big bad support logis so much in the future, you cannot harm anyone with a Rep tool unless you mele them,support logis are the first (most easy) to take out of the pair and you want to finish the support logi nerf, well done sir well done.
Tectonic Fusion 1160	Posted - 2014.03.01 22:59:00 - [57] - Quote Flank from an elevated position, pack remote explosives, use a scout suit, and bring flux grenades. Solo Player Squad status: Locked
Knight Solitaire Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 440	Posted - 2014.03.01 23:00:00 - [58] - Quote SteelheadPep wrote: So now the real reason comes to the surface your upset with the fact that a support logi can get more WPs than you, interesting.With the current TTK support logis are easy targets even tanking, I have seen heavies drop like they had milt gear, I think you will not have to worry about us big bad support logis so much in the future, you cannot harm anyone with a Rep tool unless you mele them,support logis are the first (most easy) to take out of the pair and you want to finish the support logi nerf, well done sir well done. Support Logi is a thing? Sounds like a funny excuse for being terribad at shooting. Corporation: Fatal Absolution Alliance: General Tso's Alliance


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