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ER-Bullitt Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1152	Posted - 2014.03.01 16:03:00 - [1] - Quote Knight Solitaire wrote: NewOldMan wrote: That answers the sniping part, but nades? Having another teammate? From what you are saying all you are trying to do is solo them and trying to get a mechanic that helps you win solo. TL:DR Teamwork is OP I NEED HELP CCP Did I ever say I wanted to take them solo? Looks back over posts Oh no, I didn't! Do you even have Reading Comprehension Level 5? And Nades? You do know a Logi can tank enough to survive a Nade, and not to mention if hes camping rep hives. Your dismissal of the advice given leads the reader to assume you want to solo a tag team, I find it strange that you cannot make that connection based on the conversation above. Your question appears to be: How do you beat 2 players working together in CQC, utilizing the synergy of a high tank heavy fit being repaired from behind by a 175hp/s rep tool, held by a player in a medium tank logi fit. The answers so far have been: - Kill the logi first, using sniper, grenade, or any other means available, including flanking. (preferred method) - DPS the heavy down using a medium weapon, and/or grenades, in an attempt to out dps the repair tool. (difficult, but doable) - Remote Explosives (and yes they can take down some heavies, since remotes do 1500 damage... proto tanked heavies will be left with a sliver of health after eating a remote) (difficult again, but doable) - Zerg them (last resort tactic, but effective nonetheless.. bring a revive needle.. because someone will probably die) This is called a debate, and just like how you apparently cant win an engagment playing solo against a logi/heavy combo, you will not win this debate because your argument is flawed. It is flawed because there are ways to counter this combo, its just not going to be "easy". This combo is specifically designed to be used in CQC.. it does not work well in medium or long range, at all. So there you go... I was looking for instructions online for the game "rock, paper, scissor" but I couldn't find any.. sorry.
ER-Bullitt Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1152	Posted - 2014.03.01 16:10:00 - [2] - Quote NewOldMan wrote: Who knew it'd be good old ER in with the logic smackdown. I have my moments, lol. How you been newoldman? Hope all is well in KEQ land
ER-Bullitt Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1152	Posted - 2014.03.01 16:19:00 - [3] - Quote Equipment immune to flux grenades: Rep Tool Scanner Revive Needle C'mon bro.
ER-Bullitt Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1153	Posted - 2014.03.01 16:58:00 - [4] - Quote Knight Solitaire wrote: ER-Bullitt wrote: Equipment immune to flux grenades: Rep Tool Scanner Revive Needle C'mon bro. Scanner is getting a nerf, and the Revive Needle doesn't need a counter. Blah, when you make a blatant statement like "Why should the Rep Tool be the only EQ immune to a Flux Nade?" you force me to correct your failed logic/argument. Of course the revive needle doesn't need a counter, lol. And the rep tool requires a player to do absolutely nothing but repair. They cant shoot, cant drop other equipment, cant sprint, cant even throw a grenade without completely stopping the repair. I think you have earned this now... get gud scrub
ER-Bullitt Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1155	Posted - 2014.03.01 20:52:00 - [5] - Quote Knight Solitaire wrote: I never said it was specifically Heavies too, Its you people assuming with your Reading Comprehension Level 1 that I was talking about Heavies. Why are you trolling these poor folks. Perhaps you need some lessons on how to express your thoughts properly. Our reading comprehension is perfectly fine, its your position and stance on this subject that is flip flopping like a pair of old sandles. To remind you, you wrote this: Knight Solitaire wrote: NewOldMan wrote: Why disable a repair tool? Just due to the fact that it's an equipment? Repair tools are powered from your suit. The same way your guns are. What other counter is there to the Rep Tool + Heavy combo? Other than zerging them? You can say "Shoot at the Logi!", but the Heavy will probably have you dead by then and even if you do manage to kill the +700HP Logi you still have the +1.2k HP Heavy to deal with. You specifically cite heavies (see bold text, 3 times) yet we are supposed to assume you aren't talking about heavies. Dafuq? Knight Solitaire wrote: even a Gallente Logi can get a comparable tank, is faster, and can carry Weapons with longer range, oh and can also carry Equipment. Now you force me to school you more.. Define comparable? Iif you stack 3x Comp Shield Extenders, 5x Complex Armor Plates on a Pro Gallente Logi.. not only do you fall short of a Pro Sentinel Heavy by about 500+ hit points, and about 400+ hitpoints short of a tanked Pro Basic Amarr Heavy. You actually will not be any faster in movement speed because you stacked all that armor onto the logi. Any movement speed difference will be negligible at best. Also, heavies can equip light weapons too, so that point is null and void. And if you are stacking that much tank on a gal logi, you will not have enough CPU/PG left to fit anything besides 1-2 pieces of cheap equipment. How do I know this, because I run both of those suits. Perhaps you should stop talking out of your ass and take the advice I have already given you. This combo you apparently have so much trouble with is far from unbeatable if you apply yourself, trust me I know (from both sides).
ER-Bullitt Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1156	Posted - 2014.03.01 21:10:00 - [6] - Quote Knight Solitaire wrote: Shotguns aren't that great for a situation like this. 2-3 Shots to kill the Logi 2 shots max from a properly skilled/fitted scout shotgunner. Knight Solitaire wrote: 4-5 to kill the Heavy 4 shots max. I can kill a Pro Sentinel Heavy with 4 shots from my dren shotgun, on a dren scout, with no damage mods and zero skill points in shotguns. Knight Solitaire wrote: means you'll be cutting it short on ammo, and chances are by the time you've hit the Logi, he is already warning his Heavy over comms allowing the Heavy to turn around and blow away the Shotgunner before he can get another shot off. So you have just killed the logi with 2 shots (yes that's how many shots it takes for good scout/shotgunners who are behind me up close to take down my well tanked proto gal logi)... yet you stick around long enough (remember you are in a speedy scout shotgun flank suit) to let the heavy turn his fat ass around and pummel you with his HMG? Why wouldn't you pop the logi, and take cover... you have killed 1/2 of the "unbeatable" combo, don't just stand there.. be a scout! And again you are presenting us with a hypothetical scenario where you want to defeat a 2 man combo by yourself. Didn't we already go over this? That is not balance... Knight Solitaire wrote: You've also got to remember what 1.8 will di to Heavies. Why don't we just wait and see what 1.8 brings before you start the QQ train in motion.
ER-Bullitt Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1156	Posted - 2014.03.01 21:28:00 - [7] - Quote Yeah, you've seen it while laying dead on your back many times. lol
ER-Bullitt Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1156	Posted - 2014.03.01 22:21:00 - [8] - Quote Knight Solitaire wrote: ER-Bullitt wrote: Yeah, you've seen it while laying dead on your back many times. While you're down there, get your shine box. lol Even if you did. It was never you that caused the deaths, I've never even played against you. Going to be so funny when we get called in to defend Molon once the district locking is put to an end. So I take it you are done qq'ing, you have no more failed logic to provide to try and support your ridiculous suggestion, and have now resorted to baseless insults. Can't say I'm surprised. I don't think we would want someone fighting for us who cant even figure out how to defeat a heavy/logi combo. Heck, our brand new recruits with 3 million SP can figure out how to counter this combo better than you can. If we do ask FA for help, I hope they send someone else. lol You really want to continue this kiddo? cause I have logic for days...
ER-Bullitt Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1156	Posted - 2014.03.01 22:31:00 - [9] - Quote Knight Solitaire wrote: I wouldn't want to be there anyway, At least we agree on something.
ER-Bullitt Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1157	Posted - 2014.03.01 22:53:00 - [10] - Quote INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote: ER-Bullitt wrote: Yeah, you've seen it while laying dead on your back many times. While you're down there, get your shine box. lol Ohhhhh great movie reference, and ome of my favs, Joe, was good jn dem days... Hell yeah! And by the way.. I woudnt waste your time trying to have a debate with this fool. He is immune to logic and clearly has been butthurt by enough rep tools to hate them for lyfe.

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