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Knight Solitaire
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Posted - 2014.03.01 15:16:00 -
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Give the Flux Nade the ability to temporarily disable Repair Tools (Not modules)
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Knight Solitaire
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Posted - 2014.03.01 15:25:00 -
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NewOldMan wrote:If so, make the flux nade disable your guns.
Why?
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Knight Solitaire
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Posted - 2014.03.01 15:32:00 -
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NewOldMan wrote:Knight Solitaire wrote:NewOldMan wrote:If so, make the flux nade disable your guns. Why? Why disable a repair tool? Just due to the fact that it's an equipment? Repair tools are powered from your suit. The same way your guns are.
What other counter is there to the Rep Tool + Heavy combo? Other than zerging them? You can say "Shoot at the Logi!", but the Heavy will probably have you dead by then and even if you do manage to kill the +700HP Logi you still have the +1.2k HP Heavy to deal with.
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Knight Solitaire
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Posted - 2014.03.01 15:38:00 -
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Echo 1991 wrote:Dont engage them head on...
Because it really takes that long to turn around. If you do get them from behind, and are lucky enough to kill the Logi, the Heavy is probably already facing you, hitting you with his HMG, and then you have to retreat rethink your route, and the- Oh forget about it, by that time the Logi has already spawned back in.
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Knight Solitaire
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Posted - 2014.03.01 15:41:00 -
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NewOldMan wrote:
Snipe the logi? Nade the logi? Shoot the logi?
You have one more guy wielding a gun than the other team. He can kill the logi. Also what makes you think that you can solo a tag team duo? Also the dps from any light weapon far outweighs what the logi can repair.
But again why turn off the repair tool? Which is powered by your suit. And not guns, which are powered by your suit.
Sniping is out of the question because this combo is usually used for point defend (CQC good luck getting 2-3 hits on that Logi with all that cover around and the buggy mess that is the Sniper Rifle)
Even if you do snipe the Logi, congratz, but you still have that Heavy to deal with, who has just taken cover, and is waiting 3-10s for that Logi to spawn back in with full health and ammo.
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Knight Solitaire
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Posted - 2014.03.01 15:45:00 -
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Beck Weathers wrote:
Psst! over hear! *whispers* remote explosives
Psst! Heavies can survive REs, and guess what? Its only going to get worse in 1.8!
Hurray!
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Knight Solitaire
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Posted - 2014.03.01 15:48:00 -
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NewOldMan wrote:That answers the sniping part, but nades? Having another teammate?
From what you are saying all you are trying to do is solo them and trying to get a mechanic that helps you win solo.
TL:DR Teamwork is OP I NEED HELP CCP
Did I ever say I wanted to take them solo?
*Looks back over posts*
Oh no, I didn't! Do you even have Reading Comprehension Level 5? And Nades? You do know a Logi can tank enough to survive a Nade, and not to mention if hes camping rep hives.
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Knight Solitaire
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Posted - 2014.03.01 16:18:00 -
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NewOldMan wrote:You didn't actually come out and say solo. But all of your posts references that you lack a teammate.
You don't zerg. Never even acknowledged it when I pointed out that another any other light weapon beats out the repair tool's repair rate. (extra teammate)
Or the fact that I said teamwork is OP? Do you have a second teammate helping you? Are you stupidly engaging in the HMG's kill range when you have a longer range weapon? Last I checked 2 is still greater than 1. Logis are people too.
All you did was come on here said " I should get a grenade that helps me win."
And I never said I wanted to take them solo, just that there should be an easier way of dealing with them other than requireing a group of players.
Dealing with them doesn't nessacerily mean 'Killing' them it just means supressing them so you can do other things like deal with other enemies or destroy Uplinks / Rep Hives.
Flux Nades need more uses, this is one of them. Why should the Rep Tool be the only EQ immune to a Flux Nade?
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Knight Solitaire
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Posted - 2014.03.01 16:20:00 -
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ER-Bullitt wrote:Equipment immune to flux grenades:
Rep Tool
Scanner
Revive Needle
C'mon bro.
Scanner is getting a nerf, and the Revive Needle doesn't need a counter.
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Knight Solitaire
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Posted - 2014.03.01 16:40:00 -
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NewOldMan wrote:Knight Solitaire wrote:
Scanner is getting a nerf, and the Revive Needle doesn't need a counter.
The repair tool is also getting a nerf...
Only if you're not Minmatar, it is Min Tech after all. The Scanner is getting an outright nerf.
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Knight Solitaire
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Posted - 2014.03.01 17:02:00 -
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ER-Bullitt wrote:Knight Solitaire wrote:ER-Bullitt wrote:Equipment immune to flux grenades:
Rep Tool
Scanner
Revive Needle
C'mon bro. Scanner is getting a nerf, and the Revive Needle doesn't need a counter. Blah, when you make a blatant statement like "Why should the Rep Tool be the only EQ immune to a Flux Nade?" you force me to correct your failed logic/argument. Of course the revive needle doesn't need a counter, lol. And the rep tool requires a player to do absolutely nothing but repair. They cant shoot, cant drop other equipment, cant sprint, cant even throw a grenade without completely stopping the repair. I think you have earned this now... get gud scrub 
Of course! All they have to do is hold R1!
Such skill, much 1337, very hard
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Knight Solitaire
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Posted - 2014.03.01 19:56:00 -
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PIGDOG 7 wrote:Seems there's some lame ass posts today. As I've said before:
10 cc's of man the f@)k up to anybody who takes a heavy/logi combo, dies and then cries about it here.
Crying? I'm asking them to add another counter. Other than
"Sorry bro, you need players with 1k DPS weapons hitting him at the same time to take him down"
"What about alpha weapons?"
"Dafuq is an alpha weapon?"
I never said it was specifically Heavies too, even a Gallente Logi can get a comparable tank, is faster, and can carry Weapons with longer range, oh and can also carry Equipment.
Its you people assuming with your Reading Comprehension Level 1 that I was talking about Heavies.
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Knight Solitaire
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Posted - 2014.03.01 20:11:00 -
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PIGDOG 7 wrote:
I do see your point but I just think CCP needs to look at others things first before this.
It may not be a massive problem right now, but just wait for this Heavy buff.
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Knight Solitaire
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Posted - 2014.03.01 20:16:00 -
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xSir Campsalotx wrote:Core tool reps at 175 a second, sentinel has round 1200 armor fully plated. Combat rifle does around 1100dps to armor meaning in 1 sec the cr wins over by 925 damage meaning about 1.3 seconds of continuous fire will kill a heavy with a core repair tool on him. So with 2 ppl its little over half a second, what's the problem again.
The Base DPS of a Boundless is 704. Thats not counting the Armour Bonus though (What was it again for Projectiles? 10% or 5%?)
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Knight Solitaire
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Posted - 2014.03.01 20:18:00 -
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Atiim wrote:
High Alpha Weapons?
Remote Explosives?
Shotgun From Behind?
Shotguns aren't that great for a situation like this. 2-3 Shots to kill the Logi, 4-5 to kill the Heavy, means you'll be cutting it short on ammo, and chances are by the time you've hit the Logi, he is already warning his Heavy over comms allowing the Heavy to turn around and blow away the Shotgunner before he can get another shot off.
You've also got to remember what 1.8 will di to Heavies.
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Knight Solitaire
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Posted - 2014.03.01 21:25:00 -
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Yeah, I'll take cover and allow the Logi to spawn back in within 3s and start repping the Heavy again. Time and ammo wasted.
And I've seen your Gal Logi suit with what is it 700 - 800 armour? (And I'm the one that needs to 'Git gud'? Lol)
EDIT: I used Heavies as an example, I never said it was just Heavies.
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Knight Solitaire
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Posted - 2014.03.01 21:40:00 -
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ER-Bullitt wrote:Yeah, you've seen it while laying dead on your back many times.
While you're down there, get your shine box. lol
Even if you did. It was never you that caused the deaths, I've never even played against you.
Going to be so funny when we get called in to defend Molon once the district locking is put to an end.
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Knight Solitaire
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Posted - 2014.03.01 22:29:00 -
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ER-Bullitt wrote:So I take it you are done qq'ing, you have no more failed logic to provide to try and support your ridiculous suggestion, and have now resorted to baseless insults. Can't say I'm surprised. I don't think we would want someone fighting for us who cant even figure out how to defeat a heavy/logi combo. Heck, our brand new recruits with 3 million SP can figure out how to counter this combo better than you can. If we do ask FA for help, I hope they send someone else. lol You really want to continue this kiddo? cause I have logic for days...
I wouldn't want to be there anyway, I'd rather see you lose everything, and of course there is always the slight chance of catching some kind of STI from all the previous ringers Molon have used.
You needed to hire us for matches Vs Pradox / Phoenix. lel.
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Knight Solitaire
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Posted - 2014.03.01 23:00:00 -
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SteelheadPep wrote:
So now the real reason comes to the surface your upset with the fact that a support logi can get more WPs than you, interesting.With the current TTK support logis are easy targets even tanking, I have seen heavies drop like they had milt gear, I think you will not have to worry about us big bad support logis so much in the future, you cannot harm anyone with a Rep tool unless you mele them,support logis are the first (most easy) to take out of the pair and you want to finish the support logi nerf, well done sir well done.
Support Logi is a thing? Sounds like a funny excuse for being terribad at shooting.
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