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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.02.25 17:29:00 -
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http://eskimopress.com/articles/games/item/471-ccp-suspiciously-quiet-on-dust-514-for-playstation-4#I-http%253A%252F%252Feskimopress.com%252Farticles%252Fgames%252Fitem%252F471-ccp-suspiciously-quiet-on-dust-514-for-playstation-4%2F3272292743%2F1
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Havaru Fox
Golden Empire of EvE
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Posted - 2014.02.25 17:32:00 -
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because for the 100 time... there will be no P4 version soon.
PLUS: there is no reason for them to call out that they will make one, beucase from that point the QQ will chance from "why no PS4 version so far" to "bring PS4 version out now!"
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Fraceska
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.02.25 17:39:00 -
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Dust's already small player base would be reduced even further? |
Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
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Posted - 2014.02.25 18:03:00 -
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Fraceska wrote:Dust's already small player base would be reduced even further? Because having a game on 2 consoles would decrease player count Fail logic right here |
Maximus Stryker
Who Are Those Guys
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Posted - 2014.02.25 18:12:00 -
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Would E3 be a better place to announce such a move or would FanFest be better?
Reason for FanFest: It is the pinnacle of CCP's achievements and visions, no better venue to announce DUST will move to the PS4
Reason for E3: It is later in the year (a month or two i think), thus giving CCP more time to work on it and be that much close till the launch date (assuming the launch date would remain the same whether they announced at FF or E3). Additionally, an E3 announcement would get more press from the gaming community as a whole, at least that is my guess, and thus would hopefully attract new/more players.
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Fraceska
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.02.25 18:13:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:Fraceska wrote:Dust's already small player base would be reduced even further? Because having a game on 2 consoles would decrease player count Fail logic right here
Why would you keep it on both? That means double the development and coding since both systems are not compatible in any way. So split an already small team into 2 smaller teams. Yeah that seems logical. |
Maximus Stryker
Who Are Those Guys
818
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Posted - 2014.02.25 18:14:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:Fraceska wrote:Dust's already small player base would be reduced even further? Because having a game on 2 consoles would decrease player count Fail logic right here assuming the PS4 release would not be before January 1st 2015, I would venture a guess that a lot of the player base would/could own a PS4 by then, especially given the fact that the PS4 will have two holidays to get into the hands of consumers...
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Maximus Stryker
Who Are Those Guys
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Posted - 2014.02.25 18:16:00 -
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Fraceska wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Fraceska wrote:Dust's already small player base would be reduced even further? Because having a game on 2 consoles would decrease player count Fail logic right here Why would you keep it on both? That means double the development and coding since both systems are not compatible in any way. So split an already small team into 2 smaller teams. Yeah that seems logical. i would guess it would be a migration:
Monday: Dust fully online for PS3 Tuesday: Dust offline for migration Wednesday: Dust fully online for PS4 and no longer works on PS3
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CommanderBolt
ACME SPECIAL FORCES
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Posted - 2014.02.25 18:29:00 -
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Dust should have been a PC game. I dont think you will ever see DUST on the PS4.
To be honest I am more bothered about them making this game great on the PS3. I hope they fix the bugs, work out glitches and errors - optimise the game so we get a nice smooth frame rate as much as possible. Then they can start adding what is needed to the game like a better NPE, a player market etc....That's before we even think about things like PVE. So no I doubt this game will be on PS4.
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COVERT SUBTERFUGE
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.02.25 18:34:00 -
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Fraceska wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Fraceska wrote:Dust's already small player base would be reduced even further? Because having a game on 2 consoles would decrease player count Fail logic right here Why would you keep it on both? That means double the development and coding since both systems are not compatible in any way. So split an already small team into 2 smaller teams. Yeah that seems logical.
CCP CEO said in an interview ages ago that he envisioned mercs on PS3 and PS4 gaming together.
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Nirwanda Vaughns
Death Firm.
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Posted - 2014.02.25 18:36:00 -
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the problem is, is that due to the way dust works they don't need to produce a full blown PS4 version. just build a client compatible with the ps4 and use the existing graphics in the same way that the only difference between mac/pc/linux version of EVE is the boot client. majority of DUST is server side
Rolling with the punches
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Anarchide
Greedy Bastards
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Posted - 2014.02.25 18:37:00 -
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but... I don't want to have to buy a PS4!!...
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Obodiah Garro
Tech Guard RISE of LEGION
692
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Posted - 2014.02.25 18:42:00 -
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lol check some of this bullshit and I quote
Quote:Dust 514 is most likely one of the most underrated first-person shooter games of the last generation.
Not really its a 25%ish completed game released from beta far too soon with not a lot to do.
Quote:It is so deep that it goes way beyond any other shooter across any other platform -- despite that -- unfortunately, it didn't really excite people.
Its still no where near as good as Bad Company 2
Reasons too numerous to keep on 1 page
Quote:There were definitely some noticeable issues with Dust 514 on the PlayStation 3. Controller lag and low resolution textures were the result of the PlayStation 3's complex architecture -- but, at its core, Dust 514 is a brilliant experience.
Get it on PS4 and just synch it to TQ so we can enjoy some goodness. Dust feels like a hope too far for both CCP and PS3 at this rate. 1.8 comming up soon and were still no where close to seeing half the stuff we should have gotten at release.
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
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Posted - 2014.02.25 18:51:00 -
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Just imagine how many wonderful things you can do on PS4, ccp. We could finally play the famous video shown back in 2009 instead of this. Moreover the sooner the better! It would be a wonderful chance to make profit and enlarge the audience ( making Dust 514 one of the few F2P for PS4)
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
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Posted - 2014.02.25 18:57:00 -
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Fraceska wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Fraceska wrote:Dust's already small player base would be reduced even further? Because having a game on 2 consoles would decrease player count Fail logic right here Why would you keep it on both? That means double the development and coding since both systems are not compatible in any way. So split an already small team into 2 smaller teams. Yeah that seems logical. It would be much less than double PS4 is much easier to code for Design dust for ps4 where it should have been in the first place Then port what they can to ps3 Dust on ps3 will NEVER be more than a lobby shooter |
xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
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Posted - 2014.02.25 18:59:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:Fraceska wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Fraceska wrote:Dust's already small player base would be reduced even further? Because having a game on 2 consoles would decrease player count Fail logic right here Why would you keep it on both? That means double the development and coding since both systems are not compatible in any way. So split an already small team into 2 smaller teams. Yeah that seems logical. It would be much less than double PS4 is much easier to code for Design dust for ps4 where it should have been in the first place Then port what they can to ps3 Dust on ps3 will NEVER be more than a lobby shooter
Yes yes! Pve! free roaming! It wouldn't be possible on ps3, just naming a few. Anyway, it won't happen at least for the next 3-4 years.
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
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Posted - 2014.02.25 19:12:00 -
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This game is pretty much as good as it will ever be on this engine. They can bring in a few new ideas and keep fiddling with the maths, but this is it. The code is so dirty that they really need to get a fresh start if they're ever going to prove to anybody that they give a **** and know what they're doing.
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TheD1CK
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2014.02.25 19:36:00 -
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COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote:Fraceska wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Fraceska wrote:Dust's already small player base would be reduced even further? Because having a game on 2 consoles would decrease player count Fail logic right here Why would you keep it on both? That means double the development and coding since both systems are not compatible in any way. So split an already small team into 2 smaller teams. Yeah that seems logical. CCP CEO said in an interview ages ago that he envisioned mercs on PS3 and PS4 gaming together.
If EA and DICE can't pull that off, I doubt CCP will
Plasma Cannons works, any less drawbacks
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Faunher
Ivory Vanguard
141
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Posted - 2014.02.25 20:02:00 -
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TheD1CK wrote:COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote:Fraceska wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Fraceska wrote:Dust's already small player base would be reduced even further? Because having a game on 2 consoles would decrease player count Fail logic right here Why would you keep it on both? That means double the development and coding since both systems are not compatible in any way. So split an already small team into 2 smaller teams. Yeah that seems logical. CCP CEO said in an interview ages ago that he envisioned mercs on PS3 and PS4 gaming together. If EA and DICE can't pull that off, I doubt CCP will It isn't in EA and DICE's interest to pull it off. They have built their game empires on periodic titles that are released consistently every two years, there is truly no motivating reason to connect two systems together. Dust on the other hand serves a small, die-hard community, is an ever-updated and improving game, and plans to grow in both content and size, so it has plenty more reason to try and accomplish a cross-generation platform game. |
Sam Tektzby
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2014.02.25 20:05:00 -
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No reason for port it, there will be Blacklight: Retribution, Plamestide 2 and possibly Hawken. Why port unfinished/notpolished game full of bugs. First of all CCP needs to improve their optimization, look on games fro naughty dog, rockstar or suckerpunch. There is still power in Ps3 and if CCP told otherwise, its just maded excuse, nothing else.
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Faunher
Ivory Vanguard
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Posted - 2014.02.25 20:07:00 -
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Sam Tektzby wrote:No reason for port it, there will be Blacklight: Retribution, Plamestide 2 and possibly Hawken. Why port unfinished/notpolished game full of bugs. First of all CCP needs to improve their optimization, look on games fro naughty dog, rockstar or suckerpunch. There is still power in Ps3 and if CCP told otherwise, its just maded excuse, nothing else. Blacklight Retribution is such a shallow, terrible shooter though. I was originally interested by it's "deep levels of customization" only to find that the customization was the result of either mindless grinding or spending of real money. |
John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.02.25 20:08:00 -
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Talk of moving to the PS4 now is ridiculous.
I'm fairly certain that whether you play this game on a PS4, high-end PC gaming rig, or a goddamn megacluster supercomputer, the RR would still be OP, tankbush would still be unplayable, PC districts would still be locked, etc, etc.
Maybe we fix the core content of the game first before we waste time with moving the whole broken mess to another platform because "oooh it's more powerful" and "PvE will magically appear out of my unicorn's butt" because it's on PS4 now?
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Sam Tektzby
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2014.02.25 20:12:00 -
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Faunher wrote:Sam Tektzby wrote:No reason for port it, there will be Blacklight: Retribution, Plamestide 2 and possibly Hawken. Why port unfinished/notpolished game full of bugs. First of all CCP needs to improve their optimization, look on games fro naughty dog, rockstar or suckerpunch. There is still power in Ps3 and if CCP told otherwise, its just maded excuse, nothing else. Blacklight Retribution is such a shallow, terrible shooter though. I was originally interested by it's "deep levels of customization" only to find that the customization was the result of either mindless grinding or spending of real money.
You obviously never played that XD I started clan in original PC one long time ago and level of custom is such awesome. You basicaly doing whole weapon just for yourself, if you saw something less, you propably played Blacklight> Tango down and not a Retribution.
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
1004
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Posted - 2014.02.25 20:14:00 -
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Sam Tektzby wrote:No reason for port it, there will be Blacklight: Retribution, Plamestide 2 and possibly Hawken. Why port unfinished/notpolished game full of bugs. First of all CCP needs to improve their optimization, look on games fro naughty dog, rockstar or suckerpunch. There is still power in Ps3 and if CCP told otherwise, its just maded excuse, nothing else. PS3 is a very old a limiting system. PS4 would allow for a better game overall |
Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
1004
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Posted - 2014.02.25 20:15:00 -
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John Demonsbane wrote:Talk of moving to the PS4 now is ridiculous.
I'm fairly certain that whether you play this game on a PS4, high-end PC gaming rig, or a goddamn megacluster supercomputer, the RR would still be OP, tankbush would still be unplayable, PC districts would still be locked, etc, etc.
Maybe we fix the core content of the game first before we waste time with moving the whole broken mess to another platform because "oooh it's more powerful" and "PvE will magically appear out of my unicorn's butt" because it's on PS4 now? 60 fps will NEVER happen on ps3 |
Awry Barux
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.02.25 20:16:00 -
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John Demonsbane wrote:Talk of moving to the PS4 now is ridiculous.
I'm fairly certain that whether you play this game on a PS4, high-end PC gaming rig, or a goddamn megacluster supercomputer, the RR would still be OP, tankbush would still be unplayable, PC districts would still be locked, etc, etc.
Maybe we fix the core content of the game first before we waste time with moving the whole broken mess to another platform because "oooh it's more powerful" and "PvE will magically appear out of my unicorn's butt" because it's on PS4 now?
QFT. The PS3 is the beta system. My bet is, they're going to get the lobby shooter rock solid, PC 2.0, player market, PvE, good balance, etc. Then, they'll stop developing new content for as long as it takes to port over to the PS4 solidly, combine it with a major marketing push, and relaunch with a truly excellent MMOFPS experience. That's at least a year or two away though.
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
1004
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Posted - 2014.02.25 20:17:00 -
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Sam Tektzby wrote:Faunher wrote:Sam Tektzby wrote:No reason for port it, there will be Blacklight: Retribution, Plamestide 2 and possibly Hawken. Why port unfinished/notpolished game full of bugs. First of all CCP needs to improve their optimization, look on games fro naughty dog, rockstar or suckerpunch. There is still power in Ps3 and if CCP told otherwise, its just maded excuse, nothing else. Blacklight Retribution is such a shallow, terrible shooter though. I was originally interested by it's "deep levels of customization" only to find that the customization was the result of either mindless grinding or spending of real money. You obviously never played that XD I started clan in original PC one long time ago and level of custom is such awesome. You basicaly doing whole weapon just for yourself, if you saw something less, you propably played Blacklight> Tango down and not a Retribution. I played blacklight on my ps4 and it was terrible Broken controls and very much P2W Dust felt silky smooth after playing blacklight |
scruffy preppy
Nos Nothi
136
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Posted - 2014.02.25 20:20:00 -
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Since all traffic ends up going to tranquility, it could be possible for PS4 folk to play vs PS3 folk. No one has ever done that, but it isn't impossible.
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy
2128
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Posted - 2014.02.25 20:21:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:John Demonsbane wrote:Talk of moving to the PS4 now is ridiculous.
I'm fairly certain that whether you play this game on a PS4, high-end PC gaming rig, or a goddamn megacluster supercomputer, the RR would still be OP, tankbush would still be unplayable, PC districts would still be locked, etc, etc.
Maybe we fix the core content of the game first before we waste time with moving the whole broken mess to another platform because "oooh it's more powerful" and "PvE will magically appear out of my unicorn's butt" because it's on PS4 now? 60 fps will NEVER happen on ps3
Your point being?
1) Dust is not the first game I've played on a PS3. I know that there is a bit more than just hardware limitations going on with the framerate and lag issues here.
2) OK, so "oooh it's more powerful" and I get 60fps. Hooray! I can watch myself get spawncamped by HAV's that much more clearly.
Besides (MAYBE) getting better framerates, assuming CCP can get their act together, what else gets fixed? Especially if one considers the months of development time lost to porting the game?
Nothing.
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.02.25 20:25:00 -
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Awry Barux wrote:John Demonsbane wrote:Talk of moving to the PS4 now is ridiculous.
I'm fairly certain that whether you play this game on a PS4, high-end PC gaming rig, or a goddamn megacluster supercomputer, the RR would still be OP, tankbush would still be unplayable, PC districts would still be locked, etc, etc.
Maybe we fix the core content of the game first before we waste time with moving the whole broken mess to another platform because "oooh it's more powerful" and "PvE will magically appear out of my unicorn's butt" because it's on PS4 now? QFT. The PS3 is the beta system. My bet is, they're going to get the lobby shooter rock solid, PC 2.0, player market, PvE, good balance, etc. Then, they'll stop developing new content for as long as it takes to port over to the PS4 solidly, combine it with a major marketing push, and relaunch with a truly excellent MMOFPS experience. That's at least a year or two away though.
Exactly. This game is basically a commercial failure. A big PS4 relaunch is CCP's best hope to right the ship and make it successful. It would be utterly wasted if they moved it over in it's current state.
This is not a difficult concept. People need to look past bells and whistles.
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
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Posted - 2014.02.25 20:30:00 -
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John Demonsbane wrote:Dexter307 wrote:John Demonsbane wrote:Talk of moving to the PS4 now is ridiculous.
I'm fairly certain that whether you play this game on a PS4, high-end PC gaming rig, or a goddamn megacluster supercomputer, the RR would still be OP, tankbush would still be unplayable, PC districts would still be locked, etc, etc.
Maybe we fix the core content of the game first before we waste time with moving the whole broken mess to another platform because "oooh it's more powerful" and "PvE will magically appear out of my unicorn's butt" because it's on PS4 now? 60 fps will NEVER happen on ps3 Your point being? 1) Dust is not the first game I've played on a PS3. I know that there is a bit more than just hardware limitations going on with the framerate and lag issues here. 2) OK, so " oooh it's more powerful" and I get 60fps. Hooray! I can watch myself get spawncamped by HAV's that much more clearly. Besides (MAYBE) getting better framerates, assuming CCP can get their act together, what else gets fixed? Especially if one considers the months of development time lost to porting the game? Nothing. You really think there's no difference between 20fps and 60fps Increased frame rate would make a HUGE difference in the feel of the game It would also allow for better rendering, textures, increase player count, bigger battles, and many other features |
Sam Tektzby
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2014.02.25 20:37:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:Sam Tektzby wrote:Faunher wrote:Sam Tektzby wrote:No reason for port it, there will be Blacklight: Retribution, Plamestide 2 and possibly Hawken. Why port unfinished/notpolished game full of bugs. First of all CCP needs to improve their optimization, look on games fro naughty dog, rockstar or suckerpunch. There is still power in Ps3 and if CCP told otherwise, its just maded excuse, nothing else. Blacklight Retribution is such a shallow, terrible shooter though. I was originally interested by it's "deep levels of customization" only to find that the customization was the result of either mindless grinding or spending of real money. You obviously never played that XD I started clan in original PC one long time ago and level of custom is such awesome. You basicaly doing whole weapon just for yourself, if you saw something less, you propably played Blacklight> Tango down and not a Retribution. I played blacklight on my ps4 and it was terrible Broken controls and very much P2W Dust felt silky smooth after playing blacklight
Nope you are just devil advocate, nothing else. In Blacklight: Retribution i will made full suit by myself (legs, armor and helmet). In Blacklight: Retribution I will made full weapon by myself (receiver, stock, ammo, scope, barrel) I can using stuf like, medpack, revivepack, stealthpack, shield, riotshield, searchtowers, hacktools, hell i can call my own terrorbot, hardsuit-armored suit like bot with rail rifle and minigun, or buying for ingame points special weaponry on battlefield. And many many more. And whole that in fastpaced fights with great modes. Boyo you just dont even know what you can have in BL:Retribution, hell you have even eletric shurikens what are like stunt mines, machetes, knifes, swords and my preffered hammer. And your P2W "yup really", just another b*shate, you already know where you need boosters more, yup here in dust boyo XD Just admit it, you saw BL>Retribution just on picture XD
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.02.25 20:45:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:John Demonsbane wrote:
Your point being?
1) Dust is not the first game I've played on a PS3. I know that there is a bit more than just hardware limitations going on with the framerate and lag issues here.
2) OK, so "oooh it's more powerful" and I get 60fps. Hooray! I can watch myself get spawncamped by HAV's that much more clearly.
Besides (MAYBE) getting better framerates, assuming CCP can get their act together, what else gets fixed? Especially if one considers the months of development time lost to porting the game?
Nothing.
You really think there's no difference between 20fps and 60fps Increased frame rate would make a HUGE difference in the feel of the game It would also allow for better rendering, textures, increase player count, bigger battles, and many other features
I do in fact know the difference between 20 and 60 fps. 200%.
You, on the other hand, are missing my point completely. What I am saying is that there is nothing about the PS4 that will instantly make CCP better at programming a FPS.
It will not make them the second coming of Id or Bungie (or even Rare) with a magnificent new flawless engine. It will not fix OP weapons and vehicles It will not create/balance all the racial heavy weapons or vehicles It will not fix PC district locking It will not create PvE or a player market out of thin air (or unicorn farts)
TL;DR The PS4 is not a self-aware machine that writes it's own code. It will not fix any of the major problems with Dust on it's own.
(We would probably get modestly better rendering and frame rates assuming CCP can actually take full advantage of the hardware.)
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Hynox Xitio
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.25 21:04:00 -
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What's a PS4?
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TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.02.25 21:07:00 -
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NDA-blocked again.
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Sgt Buttscratch
KILL-EM-QUICK
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Posted - 2014.02.25 21:09:00 -
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The reaon they are quiet is the fact its better for community morale than just saying "No ******* way the game will make the PS4, struggling on PS3!!"
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
513
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Posted - 2014.02.25 21:36:00 -
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Last line of the article...
"Expect an announcement at this year's E3"
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Zeylon Rho
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2014.02.25 21:43:00 -
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They've also been suspiciously silent about its release on the Commodore 64.
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.02.25 22:19:00 -
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John Demonsbane wrote:Talk of moving to the PS4 now is ridiculous.
I'm fairly certain that whether you play this game on a PS4, high-end PC gaming rig, or a goddamn megacluster supercomputer, the RR would still be OP, tankbush would still be unplayable, PC districts would still be locked, etc, etc.
Maybe we fix the core content of the game first before we waste time with moving the whole broken mess to another platform because "oooh it's more powerful" and "PvE will magically appear out of my unicorn's butt" because it's on PS4 now? ^ This. +1 John, right on the money, as usual.
Moving to the PS4 right now would improve our game experience not one bit. CCP has a lot of work to do before the game is in a polished, playable release state.
Moving to PS4 before that would be a waste and only serve to garner DUST more bad reviews and probably the ultimate dismissal from the minds of the gaming public and press - you can only fail so many times before nobody takes you seriously anymore.
PS3 is where we should be. As far as DUST is concerned the PS3 has a lot more to give than we're getting right now, and it's CCP's job to get that out of her. If we can get a stable 25 fps out of the PS3 and address the gameplay issues, we'll be in a very good place.
And with the game in that polished state and steadily gaining playerbase and getting more new peeps up to speed and invested in New Eden, the move to PS4 will be a major event for the entire gaming industry.
But you've gotta stick the landing first time, CCP.
I support SP rollover.
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If someone asked me to guess what CCP's plans are for Dust on PS4...
My first guess would be an announcement at FanFast that Dust will be released on PlayStation Now, with the headline "Now you can play Dust 514 on your PS4".
My second guess would be that there's been a directive from senior execs that no CCP employee can discuss Dust on PS4 because they really are "laser focussed on the PS3" and don't want to be constantly justifying this.
My third guess would be that they've been working on a PS4 port but their agreement with Sony prevents them discussing it within 12 months of the game's launch, so expect an announcement in May 2014 (or 5/14 - see what they did there?).
Regarding PS3 and PS4 players fighting each other; I see no fundamental reason why not, but even if they can't do that then they'll all still exist within the same single-sharded universe. You'd be in the same corps, share chat and voice, have a single player market (assuming this ever happens), etc.
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Zeylon Rho wrote:They've also been suspiciously silent about its release on the Commodore 64.
Laughed out loud. Love it! +1... but only because I don't have the means to like all of your posts all at once. CHEERS
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Thanatos 716
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Maximus Stryker wrote:Would E3 be a better place to announce such a move or would FanFest be better?
Reason for FanFest: It is the pinnacle of CCP's achievements and visions, no better venue to announce DUST will move to the PS4
Reason for E3: It is later in the year (a month or two i think), thus giving CCP more time to work on it and be that much close till the launch date (assuming the launch date would remain the same whether they announced at FF or E3). Additionally, an E3 announcement would get more press from the gaming community as a whole, at least that is my guess, and thus would hopefully attract new/more players.
Definitely FanFest. People outside these forums either know nothing about Dust, forgot about Dust or just think Dust is just an awful/boring game. I can't tell you how many times I've seen people get confused between From Dust, Dust: An Elysian Tale and Dust 514.
FanFest will be where the people who actually know/ care about the game are going to be. No one else cares.
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Meeko Fent
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They've already said that for the mean time they are going to focus on the PS3 version.
Does nobody remember this?
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Zeylon Rho wrote:They've also been suspiciously silent about its release on the Commodore 64.
prefere sinclair ZX spectrum, but there can be problrm with textures XD
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Maybe CCP said that because SONY is coming out with PLAYSTATION NOW, this summer. And it's allowing people to play (streaming) video games on the PSN store. And apparently that's ALL. |
Buster Friently
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Fraceska wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Fraceska wrote:Dust's already small player base would be reduced even further? Because having a game on 2 consoles would decrease player count Fail logic right here Why would you keep it on both? That means double the development and coding since both systems are not compatible in any way. So split an already small team into 2 smaller teams. Yeah that seems logical.
This is one of the many reasons that it may end up on PC/Steambox before the PS4.
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TechMechMeds
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If there's no ps4 version then everything we have done and everything we were sold and the promises of 'the last fps you will ever play' was all bullsht, everything, absolutely everything.
The presentations
The wars
The people you met
All the time spent in the game
Everything anyone ever did for their corp or alliance
The feeling we got unlocking our first proto suits
The feeling we got unlocking our first proto weapons
Waiting for the new patches
Money spent for aurum AND to help ccp
Helping to keep hundreds of players in the game
Being on the forums
I am one of many who have potentially wasted much time being fed the guarantees and promises of CCP. Theres no actual yes or no for the ps4 version anyway but for those that are REALLY in the know, its obvious there will be a ps4 version, possibly a pc version but ccp made it clear that there won't be and theres about 3 pages of glaring problems that dust on the pc would cause.
Level 2 forum warrior.
Dust on the ps4 asap please
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Sam Tektzby wrote:No reason for port it, there will be Blacklight: Retribution, Plamestide 2 and possibly Hawken. Why port unfinished/notpolished game full of bugs. First of all CCP needs to improve their optimization, look on games fro naughty dog, rockstar or suckerpunch. There is still power in Ps3 and if CCP told otherwise, its just maded excuse, nothing else.
Please do not use blacklight retribution to compare anything, that game is terrible, completely terrible.
Level 2 forum warrior.
Dust on the ps4 asap please
I sold my family to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic
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da GAND
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Posted - 2014.03.06 18:15:00 -
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Why does everyone expect them to get it on the ps4 anytime soon? CCP is having a hard enough time trying to get the ps3 version right. It'll be years before they get it on the ps4, that is if the game survives the rest of this year.
After Uprisings release the forums were a bad place, I'll never forget how CCP screwed up so badly.
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TechMechMeds
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da GAND wrote:Why does everyone expect them to get it on the ps4 anytime soon? CCP is having a hard enough time trying to get the ps3 version right. It'll be years before they get it on the ps4, that is if the game survives the rest of this year.
I'd give the game 2 years life left tops based on watching player numbers, number trends and player trends.
That's provided it stays on ps3.
Level 2 forum warrior.
Dust on the ps4 asap please
I sold my family to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.03.06 18:24:00 -
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My take on it is moving to PS4 anythime soon would be a wasteful tragedy for the game, and moving to PC would be its death-knell. I originally posted this link based solely on the chuckle to be had of imagining 'blushing CCP employees'.
PS3 is where we belong, for now.
I support SP rollover.
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Buster Friently
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Posted - 2014.03.06 18:27:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:If there's no ps4 version then everything we have done and everything we were sold and the promises of 'the last fps you will ever play' was all bullsht, everything, absolutely everything.
The presentations
The wars
The people you met
All the time spent in the game
Everything anyone ever did for their corp or alliance
The feeling we got unlocking our first proto suits
The feeling we got unlocking our first proto weapons
Waiting for the new patches
Money spent for aurum AND to help ccp
Helping to keep hundreds of players in the game
Being on the forums
I am one of many who have potentially wasted much time being fed the guarantees and promises of CCP. Theres no actual yes or no for the ps4 version anyway but for those that are REALLY in the know, its obvious there will be a ps4 version, possibly a pc version but ccp made it clear that there won't be and theres about 3 pages of glaring problems that dust on the pc would cause.
CCP has never claimed that there would not be a PC version, only that there would be, at least initially, an exclusive to PS3.
That's all over and done with now. If you're making a game, and you want it to last 10 years like your existing flagship, you put it on the same platform. The platform that you are familiar with.
Now the case for PS3 in the first place was to capture the console market. That hasn't panned out for CCP, and frankly, the console market isn't nearly as attractive as it was say 4 years ago (when they started with Dust). SO, a PC port makes perfect sense because the game can be much better there and CCP wouldn't have to deal with a company like Sony to push out updates/content changes and the microtransaction market.. Also, both new consoles are basically watered down PCs anyway so a port to one is essentially a port to the other.
The original arguments against PC were that Dust might erode the playerbase of Eve and the mouse vs controller issue. We already have mouse control in Dust (A strong indication of CCP's interest in a PC port) and due to Dust not being massively embraced by the console community, the first argument is moot as well.
Development costs on PC would also be lower.
This is all speculation of course. We'll know when CCP wants us to know.
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
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I have an honestly ignorant noob question for you move-to-PC peeps.
Is it possible to stop botting/hacks on PC? I know other fps games suffer from these - we mercs will someday be deciding the fate of large alliances/wars and these hacks will destroy DUST's engame.
Is there any way CCP could deploy onto PC and realistically prevent this? My experience tells me no, but it would be great if more informed peeps could weigh in. That includes you too, CCP, no need to be shy here and this is really a dicussion about modern PC gaming in general.
I support SP rollover.
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Buster Friently
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Posted - 2014.03.06 18:40:00 -
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Vrain Matari wrote:I have an honestly ignorant noob question for you move-to-PC peeps.
Is it possible to stop botting/hacks on PC? I know other fps games suffer from these - we mercs will someday be deciding the fate of large alliances/wars and these hacks will destroy DUST's engame.
Is there any way CCP could deploy onto PC and realistically prevent this? My experience tells me no, but it would be great if more informed peeps could weigh in. That includes you too, CCP, no need to be shy here and this is really a dicussion about modern PC gaming in general.
Dust has server side authentication/replication of all actions.
Nothing is 100% against hacks/mods - no, not on consoles either. Server side calculations pretty much stop it cold though. There are plenty of games on PC that have no real presence of hacks/bots etc, in fact - nearly all of them.
Eve has been online for 10 years, and it does a pretty good job of keeping hacks off. Steam also runs some software to check for known hacking/botting software and it seems to do a pretty good job.
The real secret though is to make all important decisions server side rather than client side. Incidentally, Dust already has this. I wonder why? |
TechMechMeds
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Incorrect, at a fan fest the devs were asked if it will ever be on pc to which they replied "no never" with a 'really? Again?' expression.
They have been asked multiple times about dust on the pc, the answer is no, roughly 3 pages of game breaking problems that can't really be avoided.
Level 2 forum warrior.
Dust on the ps4 asap please
I sold my family to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic
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Buster Friently
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Posted - 2014.03.06 18:44:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:Incorrect, at a fan fest the devs were asked if it will ever be on pc to which they replied "no never" with a 'really? Again?' expression.
They have been asked multiple times about dust on the pc, the answer is no, roughly 3 pages of game breaking problems that can't really be avoided.
I've never heard this. Rumor to be sure. Please provide some shred of evidence. |
TechMechMeds
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Posted - 2014.03.06 18:44:00 -
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And if you didn't know that then you don't actually know enough to even speculate I'm afraid.
Level 2 forum warrior.
Dust on the ps4 asap please
I sold my family to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic
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TechMechMeds
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Posted - 2014.03.06 18:46:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Incorrect, at a fan fest the devs were asked if it will ever be on pc to which they replied "no never" with a 'really? Again?' expression.
They have been asked multiple times about dust on the pc, the answer is no, roughly 3 pages of game breaking problems that can't really be avoided. I've never heard this. Rumor to be sure. Please provide some shred of evidence.
Videos, you can o watch them yourself on YouTube. I am not digging through hours of videos because a random who didn't know anyway, doesn't believe me.
Level 2 forum warrior.
Dust on the ps4 asap please
I sold my family to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic
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Buster Friently
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Posted - 2014.03.06 18:47:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:Buster Friently wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Incorrect, at a fan fest the devs were asked if it will ever be on pc to which they replied "no never" with a 'really? Again?' expression.
They have been asked multiple times about dust on the pc, the answer is no, roughly 3 pages of game breaking problems that can't really be avoided. I've never heard this. Rumor to be sure. Please provide some shred of evidence. Videos, you can o watch them yourself on YouTube. I am not digging through hours of videos because a random who didn't know anyway, doesn't believe me.
Likewise. |
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Buster Friently wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Buster Friently wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Incorrect, at a fan fest the devs were asked if it will ever be on pc to which they replied "no never" with a 'really? Again?' expression.
They have been asked multiple times about dust on the pc, the answer is no, roughly 3 pages of game breaking problems that can't really be avoided. I've never heard this. Rumor to be sure. Please provide some shred of evidence. Videos, you can o watch them yourself on YouTube. I am not digging through hours of videos because a random who didn't know anyway, doesn't believe me. Likewise.
Haha, so you claim rumour yet won't go see for yourself? Ok then.
Level 2 forum warrior.
Dust on the ps4 asap please
I sold my family to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic
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TechMechMeds
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Posted - 2014.03.06 18:50:00 -
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The fact is that you didn't know that anyway, I wasted time right there lol.
Level 2 forum warrior.
Dust on the ps4 asap please
I sold my family to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic
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Buster Friently
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Posted - 2014.03.06 18:51:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:Buster Friently wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Buster Friently wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Incorrect, at a fan fest the devs were asked if it will ever be on pc to which they replied "no never" with a 'really? Again?' expression.
They have been asked multiple times about dust on the pc, the answer is no, roughly 3 pages of game breaking problems that can't really be avoided. I've never heard this. Rumor to be sure. Please provide some shred of evidence. Videos, you can o watch them yourself on YouTube. I am not digging through hours of videos because a random who didn't know anyway, doesn't believe me. Likewise. Haha, so you claim rumour yet won't go see for yourself? Ok then.
That's pretty much the definition of rumor - Some random makes a claim but provides no evidence to back the claim.
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da GAND
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Posted - 2014.03.06 18:51:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:da GAND wrote:Why does everyone expect them to get it on the ps4 anytime soon? CCP is having a hard enough time trying to get the ps3 version right. It'll be years before they get it on the ps4, that is if the game survives the rest of this year. I'd give the game 2 years life left tops based on watching player numbers, number trends and player trends. That's provided it stays on ps3.
It might not even survive through the rest of this year if CCP doesn't actually have anything at this years fanfest to save this game.
After Uprisings release the forums were a bad place, I'll never forget how CCP screwed up so badly.
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Malkai Inos
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
1188
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Posted - 2014.03.06 18:52:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:Buster Friently wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Incorrect, at a fan fest the devs were asked if it will ever be on pc to which they replied "no never" with a 'really? Again?' expression.
They have been asked multiple times about dust on the pc, the answer is no, roughly 3 pages of game breaking problems that can't really be avoided. I've never heard this. Rumor to be sure. Please provide some shred of evidence. Videos, you can o watch them yourself on YouTube. I am not digging through hours of videos because a random who didn't know anyway, doesn't believe me. You claim, your burden of proof.
I've watched each of the last three fanfests more than once and all i could ever hear was "no work is being done and there are no plans to do so". This does not equate to "no, never".
You can take a benign object, -you can take a cheeseburger and deconstruct it to its source...
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TechMechMeds
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Malkai Inos wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Buster Friently wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Incorrect, at a fan fest the devs were asked if it will ever be on pc to which they replied "no never" with a 'really? Again?' expression.
They have been asked multiple times about dust on the pc, the answer is no, roughly 3 pages of game breaking problems that can't really be avoided. I've never heard this. Rumor to be sure. Please provide some shred of evidence. Videos, you can o watch them yourself on YouTube. I am not digging through hours of videos because a random who didn't know anyway, doesn't believe me. You claim, your burden of proof. I've watched each of the last three fanfests more than once and all i could ever hear was "no work is being done and there are no plans to do so". This does not equate to "no, never".
You must have missed the specific question then as can be expected by 98% of dusts player base.
Buster the evidence is there on YouTube, hold your ignorance.
Level 2 forum warrior.
Dust on the ps4 asap please
I sold my family to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic
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Buster Friently
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Posted - 2014.03.06 18:59:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:Malkai Inos wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Buster Friently wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Incorrect, at a fan fest the devs were asked if it will ever be on pc to which they replied "no never" with a 'really? Again?' expression.
They have been asked multiple times about dust on the pc, the answer is no, roughly 3 pages of game breaking problems that can't really be avoided. I've never heard this. Rumor to be sure. Please provide some shred of evidence. Videos, you can o watch them yourself on YouTube. I am not digging through hours of videos because a random who didn't know anyway, doesn't believe me. You claim, your burden of proof. I've watched each of the last three fanfests more than once and all i could ever hear was "no work is being done and there are no plans to do so". This does not equate to "no, never". You must have missed the specific question then as can be expected by 98% of dusts player base. Buster the evidence is there on YouTube, hold your ignorance.
Maybe you should practice reading, as that last response was not from me. All I've said is that I've never seen such a response from CCP as you've claimed. Please back your claim with evidence. I assume, until then, that it's just another rumor to add to the pile. |
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TechMechMeds wrote:You must have missed the specific question then as can be expected by 98% of dusts player base.
Buster the evidence is there on YouTube, hold your ignorance. That was not Buster, as explained by himself and there's no need for hostility anyways.
You're not entitled to our gullibility. If you want someone to believe something so much then you have to prove it. If not...fine. I don't care either way.
You can take a benign object, -you can take a cheeseburger and deconstruct it to its source...
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TechMechMeds
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I have pointed you in the right direction, I dont HAVE to prove anything.
YouTube is that way mate lol ---------------->
Level 2 forum warrior.
Dust on the ps4 asap please
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Malkai Inos
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Posted - 2014.03.06 19:15:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:I have pointed you in the right direction, I dont HAVE to prove anything.
YouTube is that way mate lol ----------------> "There's evidence in support of my claim somewhere in this general direction. Now prove me wrong."
That's shifting the burden of proof on top of demanding the impossible (by definition) proof of a negative if you happen to be wrong after all.
You can claim literally anything on that basis.
I'll leave you with this:
"What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence." -Christopher Hitchens
You can take a benign object, -you can take a cheeseburger and deconstruct it to its source...
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.03.06 19:21:00 -
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Malkai Inos wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:I have pointed you in the right direction, I dont HAVE to prove anything.
YouTube is that way mate lol ----------------> "There's evidence in support of my claim somewhere in this general direction. Now prove me wrong." That's shifting the burden of proof on top of demanding the impossible (by definition) proof of a negative if you happen to be wrong after all. You can claim literally anything on that basis. I'll leave you with this: "What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence." -Christopher Hitchens I assert this gun is loaded.
I support SP rollover.
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TechMechMeds
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Posted - 2014.03.06 19:22:00 -
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Malkai Inos wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:I have pointed you in the right direction, I dont HAVE to prove anything.
YouTube is that way mate lol ----------------> "There's evidence in support of my claim somewhere in this general direction. Now prove me wrong." That's shifting the burden of proof on top of demanding the impossible (by definition) proof of a negative if you happen to be wrong after all. You can claim literally anything on that basis. I'll leave you with this: "What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence." -Christopher Hitchens
No you are simply trying to be smart and failing with a decent hype.
Theres about 5 hours of video between them all on youtube about dust. I CBA to watch through them to find the particular moment but if you'd like to stop being an ignorant fool, you can do that you self. Its near the end of one of the videos where devs are asked questions.
The channel is ccp or ccp games and its a dust fanfest video. Your choice.
Level 2 forum warrior.
Dust on the ps4 asap please
I sold my family to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic
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Buster Friently
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Posted - 2014.03.06 19:23:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:Malkai Inos wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:I have pointed you in the right direction, I dont HAVE to prove anything.
YouTube is that way mate lol ----------------> "There's evidence in support of my claim somewhere in this general direction. Now prove me wrong." That's shifting the burden of proof on top of demanding the impossible (by definition) proof of a negative if you happen to be wrong after all. You can claim literally anything on that basis. I'll leave you with this: "What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence." -Christopher Hitchens No you are simply trying to be smart and failing with a decent hype. Theres about 5 hours of video between them all on youtube about dust. I CBA to watch through them to find the particular moment but if you'd like to stop being an ignorant fool, you can do that you self. Its near the end of one of the videos where devs are asked questions. The channel is ccp or ccp games and its a dust fanfest video. Your choice.
I think he's succeeding in being smart. After all, you still haven't provided one shred of evidence to support your claim that CCP has said no PC port ever.
Rumor is rumor.
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TechMechMeds
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Posted - 2014.03.06 19:26:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Malkai Inos wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:I have pointed you in the right direction, I dont HAVE to prove anything.
YouTube is that way mate lol ----------------> "There's evidence in support of my claim somewhere in this general direction. Now prove me wrong." That's shifting the burden of proof on top of demanding the impossible (by definition) proof of a negative if you happen to be wrong after all. You can claim literally anything on that basis. I'll leave you with this: "What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence." -Christopher Hitchens No you are simply trying to be smart and failing with a decent hype. Theres about 5 hours of video between them all on youtube about dust. I CBA to watch through them to find the particular moment but if you'd like to stop being an ignorant fool, you can do that you self. Its near the end of one of the videos where devs are asked questions. The channel is ccp or ccp games and its a dust fanfest video. Your choice. I think he's succeeding in being smart. After all, you still haven't provided one shred of evidence to support your claim that CCP has said no PC port ever. Rumor is rumor.
No, you both choose to be ignorant. Would you watch hours of video to prove two ransoms on a forum right? and likewise I don't really expect either of you to watch all that either.
Level 2 forum warrior.
Dust on the ps4 asap please
I sold my family to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic
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Malkai Inos
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Posted - 2014.03.06 19:27:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote: "I CBA to support my initial claim and you're a fool for not just believing me"
Sorry. There's no point continuing this.
You can take a benign object, -you can take a cheeseburger and deconstruct it to its source...
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Buster Friently
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Posted - 2014.03.06 19:28:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:Buster Friently wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Malkai Inos wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:I have pointed you in the right direction, I dont HAVE to prove anything.
YouTube is that way mate lol ----------------> "There's evidence in support of my claim somewhere in this general direction. Now prove me wrong." That's shifting the burden of proof on top of demanding the impossible (by definition) proof of a negative if you happen to be wrong after all. You can claim literally anything on that basis. I'll leave you with this: "What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence." -Christopher Hitchens No you are simply trying to be smart and failing with a decent hype. Theres about 5 hours of video between them all on youtube about dust. I CBA to watch through them to find the particular moment but if you'd like to stop being an ignorant fool, you can do that you self. Its near the end of one of the videos where devs are asked questions. The channel is ccp or ccp games and its a dust fanfest video. Your choice. I think he's succeeding in being smart. After all, you still haven't provided one shred of evidence to support your claim that CCP has said no PC port ever. Rumor is rumor. No, you both choose to be ignorant. Would you watch hours of video to prove two ransoms on a forum right? and likewise I don't really expect either of you to watch all that either.
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Malkai Inos wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:"I CBA to support my initial claim and you're a fool for not just believing me" Sorry. There's no point continuing this.
Nice edit, no clearly not lol.
Level 2 forum warrior.
Dust on the ps4 asap please
I sold my family to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic
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Iv seen the video buster, I have not made a false claim. I'm done here, you are clearly trolling or dumb.
I have pointed you to where you can find out for yourself, you choose not to.
Level 2 forum warrior.
Dust on the ps4 asap please
I sold my family to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic
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TechMechMeds wrote:Iv seen the video buster, I have not made a false claim. I'm done here, you are clearly trolling or dumb.
I have pointed you to where you can find out for yourself, you choose not to.
lol.
You have made an unbacked claim. Yes you have.
Saying that you've seen it doesn't make it any less unbacked as a claim. I fail to understand how you fail to understand this.
You might like this:
http://www.technologyreview.com/view/520156/memory-is-inherently-fallible-and-thats-a-good-thing/ |
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COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote:Fraceska wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Fraceska wrote:Dust's already small player base would be reduced even further? Because having a game on 2 consoles would decrease player count Fail logic right here Why would you keep it on both? That means double the development and coding since both systems are not compatible in any way. So split an already small team into 2 smaller teams. Yeah that seems logical. CCP CEO said in an interview ages ago that he envisioned mercs on PS3 and PS4 gaming together.
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