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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.02.25 20:08:00 -
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Talk of moving to the PS4 now is ridiculous.
I'm fairly certain that whether you play this game on a PS4, high-end PC gaming rig, or a goddamn megacluster supercomputer, the RR would still be OP, tankbush would still be unplayable, PC districts would still be locked, etc, etc.
Maybe we fix the core content of the game first before we waste time with moving the whole broken mess to another platform because "oooh it's more powerful" and "PvE will magically appear out of my unicorn's butt" because it's on PS4 now?
"The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.02.25 20:21:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:John Demonsbane wrote:Talk of moving to the PS4 now is ridiculous.
I'm fairly certain that whether you play this game on a PS4, high-end PC gaming rig, or a goddamn megacluster supercomputer, the RR would still be OP, tankbush would still be unplayable, PC districts would still be locked, etc, etc.
Maybe we fix the core content of the game first before we waste time with moving the whole broken mess to another platform because "oooh it's more powerful" and "PvE will magically appear out of my unicorn's butt" because it's on PS4 now? 60 fps will NEVER happen on ps3
Your point being?
1) Dust is not the first game I've played on a PS3. I know that there is a bit more than just hardware limitations going on with the framerate and lag issues here.
2) OK, so "oooh it's more powerful" and I get 60fps. Hooray! I can watch myself get spawncamped by HAV's that much more clearly.
Besides (MAYBE) getting better framerates, assuming CCP can get their act together, what else gets fixed? Especially if one considers the months of development time lost to porting the game?
Nothing.
"The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.02.25 20:25:00 -
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Awry Barux wrote:John Demonsbane wrote:Talk of moving to the PS4 now is ridiculous.
I'm fairly certain that whether you play this game on a PS4, high-end PC gaming rig, or a goddamn megacluster supercomputer, the RR would still be OP, tankbush would still be unplayable, PC districts would still be locked, etc, etc.
Maybe we fix the core content of the game first before we waste time with moving the whole broken mess to another platform because "oooh it's more powerful" and "PvE will magically appear out of my unicorn's butt" because it's on PS4 now? QFT. The PS3 is the beta system. My bet is, they're going to get the lobby shooter rock solid, PC 2.0, player market, PvE, good balance, etc. Then, they'll stop developing new content for as long as it takes to port over to the PS4 solidly, combine it with a major marketing push, and relaunch with a truly excellent MMOFPS experience. That's at least a year or two away though.
Exactly. This game is basically a commercial failure. A big PS4 relaunch is CCP's best hope to right the ship and make it successful. It would be utterly wasted if they moved it over in it's current state.
This is not a difficult concept. People need to look past bells and whistles.
"The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.02.25 20:45:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:John Demonsbane wrote:
Your point being?
1) Dust is not the first game I've played on a PS3. I know that there is a bit more than just hardware limitations going on with the framerate and lag issues here.
2) OK, so "oooh it's more powerful" and I get 60fps. Hooray! I can watch myself get spawncamped by HAV's that much more clearly.
Besides (MAYBE) getting better framerates, assuming CCP can get their act together, what else gets fixed? Especially if one considers the months of development time lost to porting the game?
Nothing.
You really think there's no difference between 20fps and 60fps  Increased frame rate would make a HUGE difference in the feel of the game It would also allow for better rendering, textures, increase player count, bigger battles, and many other features
I do in fact know the difference between 20 and 60 fps. 200%.
You, on the other hand, are missing my point completely. What I am saying is that there is nothing about the PS4 that will instantly make CCP better at programming a FPS.
It will not make them the second coming of Id or Bungie (or even Rare) with a magnificent new flawless engine.
It will not fix OP weapons and vehicles
It will not create/balance all the racial heavy weapons or vehicles
It will not fix PC district locking
It will not create PvE or a player market out of thin air (or unicorn farts)
TL;DR The PS4 is not a self-aware machine that writes it's own code. It will not fix any of the major problems with Dust on it's own.
(We would probably get modestly better rendering and frame rates assuming CCP can actually take full advantage of the hardware.)
"The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu
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Amarr victor!
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