TBH, I think you can sum up every alliance in PC with the reason of Eve Support. I know that's why AE and NS are in RA as opposed to any other alliance, and it's definitely why we and SVER are in GT. The only other answer you might get is branding from the NF guys.

Hmm, here what I think about that though is that there is more, I mean RA, GT, TM, ROFL, EoN, NF, LoI, TUC, LRA, CORVOS, and many others all have other motives

So just eve support not Dust support? why are you in an alliance that has dust players I'm sure there's an EVE alliance that wouldn't mind 1-2 dust corps of your caliber then and can give you more support?

Tso's are really dominant atm in MH. It would take everyone else's eve that regularly traverses MH together and add in pirates to bring down the 40 or so Ive seen Tso's bringing.

Not to mention they could light the torches at Minas Tirith and bring in a lot of backup.

A month ago 8-10 ships were sufficient...hell for the first few weeks Himiko was blapping 4-5 nublets from Renegade without ever losing a ship. But since then it's really heated up with all the fighting.

I can't even imagine PC2.0 tbh.

It'll be tougher for a lot of peeps when the only OB's are Eve OB's, similar to Faction Warfare.

In our cases we were dumped from the CORVOS because we failed to enforce faction specific actions and there seemed to have had a negative effect in one of their campaign.

For the moment I think being able to have others back is what is important in an alliance. You augment your pool of ringers that are more cost effective and since they share the same goal than you, will give their best to win. Its important to share the same views from the beginning about corp expansion, honour, player retention and very long term game commitment. Our corp members are starting to ask those questions like where do we want to be in one year and who share our vision of an empire. Since we are a QC corp and most of our players do not necessarily speak fluent English, this as become a barrier that some of us must find a way to make work in an alliance. So there are always challenges to making these sorts of things work both ways.

Cause we're boss. Nuff said.

Tso's are really dominant atm in MH. It would take everyone else's eve that regularly traverses MH together and add in pirates to bring down the 40 or so Ive seen Tso's bringing.

Not to mention they could light the torches at Minas Tirith and bring in a lot of backup.

A month ago 8-10 ships were sufficient...hell for the first few weeks Himiko was blapping 4-5 nublets from Renegade without ever losing a ship. But since then it's really heated up with all the fighting.

I can't even imagine PC2.0 tbh.

It'll be tougher for a lot of peeps when the only OB's are Eve OB's, similar to Faction Warfare.

Not to burst your bubble Zatara but last night you guys had 20 or so pilots in orbit, and one small group of actual Eve pilots came in and took all your guys out multiple times. I would agree you guys have the strongest Dust support in Eve but there's many in Molden Heath that dont play Dust.

Not to burst your bubble but we had a 27 man fleet last night split 3 ways covering multiple matches at the same time...some were our own and some were contracts...anyone else in MH able to do that? And yes 7-2 has hot dropped us as have some null groups cause we give good fights and good fights are what we look for. Feel to check our kill boards and the engagement reports.

So when is ROFL going to give up something more than a single Thrasher welping himself repeated to us? You can look that one up as well. Dont talk **** your ass can't back up please cause this kind of convo is dull.

i messed up my reply and everything got deleted, so... but I just meant that there are a lof of Eve guys with no affilitation in dust thats all. And all they look for is orbital fleets to mess with. I wasn't trying to start anything cause I actually like your guys in Eve, they are pretty nice according to some of our eve guys and clearly the dominant fleet connected to Dust

***Side note for Quebec United, they had EVE players who didn't meet the standing requirements in FW, all they have to do is get rid of those two inactive EVE players that are ruining their standings and they can re-up in the alliance. Our corporation had to leave the alliance temporarily too, Hell I had to leave my own corp in order to get my standings back up in time.

ya i think the forum had a small death for a moment there...had to fix my stuff as well

and i took no offence...i neither chest beat nor exaggerate, its not in me and there is plenty of that to go around here already...but there have been a lot of 'misleading' things stated in regards to eve in the past that annoys me...i seriously doubt the 'locals' we get to fight will have any interest in dust...they just want fights as do we...its been fun and yes we do have an awesome group of guys that are happy to shoot the **** in local with any of yous...and we try not to troll too hard

@Zatara, a few of the places in Minnesota offer free seat pads. It really helps when I try to sit down after a bad burn.

Cookie, yea i was in fleet with one other guy the other day, (I'm just starting to delve into Eve) we were running some missions to help me with fleet functions, when we ran into your fleet in local. I decided to just play Dust that day

Not to burst your bubble but we had a 27 man fleet last night split 3 ways covering multiple matches at the same time...some were our own and some were contracts...anyone else in MH able to do that? And yes 7-2 has hot dropped us as have some null groups cause we give good fights and good fights are what we look for. Feel to check our kill boards and the engagement reports.

Hmm, here what I think about that though is that there is more, I mean RA, GT, TM, ROFL, EoN, NF, LoI, TUC, LRA, CORVOS, and many others all have other motives

So just eve support not Dust support? why are you in an alliance that has dust players I'm sure there's an EVE alliance that wouldn't mind 1-2 dust corps of your caliber then and can give you more support?

I will grant you that NS definitely benefits from being in an alliance with the dominant Western block - RA as a whole gets access to a bunch of timers which are hard to target and NS get's insurance that if those timers are ever flipped they can be flipped back just as readily by their allies. The time zone advantage is a big one and a really underrated one right now imo.
Agreed 100%

As far as ROFL, LOl, and EoN. are relics of an earlier time when there were more alliances because of corp battles. At the beginning of PC there were seven major alliances. At the time there were forty some highly competitive corps all with good corp battle records and all of whom were eagerly pairing up and flaunting their colors and showing off their allies. Now there are three major alliances (By major I mean has multiple landowning corps outside of PFC) and I believe that from here on out alliances will never be like it was, since we now know who's on top. Alliances has become less a diplomatic flaunting and more a tactical actuality. Formal alliances are in many was a thing of the past with informal positioning being the key. I predict we'll see alliances more and more that are collections of allies clamoring for eve support.
Eon.'s got RND and R* hell I think RND,Onslaught,KEQ,UPS,WRavens,and GAC ought to move on because they've got plenty of potential

As I understand it, Top Men. is mostly a collection of dust players who come from Eve and want their alliances to carry over. NF as I already said and this thread has pointed out, is about branding.
Top Men's almost 100% DUST and unrelated to EVE until the Gents need help we're out on a raft in the middle of the ocean...
NF, they're a brand a household name, NF are mercs, hell I'll be suprised if PL doesn't get into an agreement with them

LRA was initially founded with the intention of being a merc independent alliance, i.e. an alliance led by mercs rather than Eve players. As it is gameplay mechanics and lack of eve integration has led to many alliances being headed by mercs. I'm not sure what LRA is doing now. Same here

I was never quite sure what the umbra combine was. TSOLE
I don't know corvos.IDK Matthew Dust is part of it though

Simple Eve support is becoming increasingly more required and from what I have seen Tso's > Everyone in Eve who cares about Dust 514.

The Corvos Is deployed out of Molden Heath currently, building our fleet size ;)

Simple Eve support is becoming increasingly more required and from what I have seen Tso's > Everyone in Eve who cares about Dust 514.