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Killar-12
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Posted - 2014.02.18 16:16:00 -
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This is mostly pointed at CEO/Directors but normal members of corps are more than welcome to answer.
Why are you with who you are with alliance-wise (or not with in some cases)?
Some alliances to me seem like a loose coalition at best if not just hey we all just want a channel where they can talk together and a tag on the forums, others look more organized like something that clearly looks like an alliance. Some have members who take pride in it openly showing on these forums, some people though either out of lack of pride or some other reason that evades me won't. Some are focused one just one or two corps others are groups that are fairly even in decision making power.
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Posted - 2014.02.18 16:29:00 -
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God Hates Lags wrote:TBH, I think you can sum up every alliance in PC with the reason of Eve Support. I know that's why AE and NS are in RA as opposed to any other alliance, and it's definitely why we and SVER are in GT. The only other answer you might get is branding from the NF guys. Hmm, here what I think about that though is that there is more, I mean RA, GT, TM, ROFL, EoN, NF, LoI, TUC, LRA, CORVOS, and many others all have other motives
So just eve support not Dust support? why are you in an alliance that has dust players I'm sure there's an EVE alliance that wouldn't mind 1-2 dust corps of your caliber then and can give you more support?
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Posted - 2014.02.18 17:33:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:Killar-12 wrote:God Hates Lags wrote:TBH, I think you can sum up every alliance in PC with the reason of Eve Support. I know that's why AE and NS are in RA as opposed to any other alliance, and it's definitely why we and SVER are in GT. The only other answer you might get is branding from the NF guys. Hmm, here what I think about that though is that there is more, I mean RA, GT, TM, ROFL, EoN, NF, LoI, TUC, LRA, CORVOS, and many others all have other motives So just eve support not Dust support? why are you in an alliance that has dust players I'm sure there's an EVE alliance that wouldn't mind 1-2 dust corps of your caliber then and can give you more support? Tso's are really dominant atm in MH. It would take everyone else's eve that regularly traverses MH together and add in pirates to bring down the 40 or so Ive seen Tso's bringing. Not to mention they could light the torches at Minas Tirith and bring in a lot of backup. A month ago 8-10 ships were sufficient...hell for the first few weeks Himiko was blapping 4-5 nublets from Renegade without ever losing a ship. But since then it's really heated up with all the fighting. I can't even imagine PC2.0 tbh. It'll be tougher for a lot of peeps when the only OB's are Eve OB's, similar to Faction Warfare. True... I see your point the only other group I see in MH at any rate is 7-2 which only runs in 3-4 man packs and blap most loners, Himiko's a good pilot tbh.
PC 2.0 will be interesting might get some more peeps in Top Men if it opens in 0.0 even though the alliance might put off some more independent corps but the CFC doesn't hold huge portions of sov because of independent actors it's due to that closeness, the mentality to be the best ally and worst enemy possible.
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Posted - 2014.02.18 17:36:00 -
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Gelhad Thremyr wrote:In our cases we were dumped from the CORVOS because we failed to enforce faction specific actions and there seemed to have had a negative effect in one of their campaign.
For the moment I think being able to have others back is what is important in an alliance. You augment your pool of ringers that are more cost effective and since they share the same goal than you, will give their best to win. Its important to share the same views from the beginning about corp expansion, honour, player retention and very long term game commitment. Our corp members are starting to ask those questions like where do we want to be in one year and who share our vision of an empire. Since we are a QC corp and most of our players do not necessarily speak fluent English, this as become a barrier that some of us must find a way to make work in an alliance. So there are always challenges to making these sorts of things work both ways. Thank you for the detailed response.
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Posted - 2014.02.18 17:47:00 -
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Jade Tech wrote:Cause we're boss. Nuff said. lol I see your point...
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Posted - 2014.02.18 20:20:00 -
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God Hates Lags wrote:Killar-12 wrote:God Hates Lags wrote:TBH, I think you can sum up every alliance in PC with the reason of Eve Support. I know that's why AE and NS are in RA as opposed to any other alliance, and it's definitely why we and SVER are in GT. The only other answer you might get is branding from the NF guys. Hmm, here what I think about that though is that there is more, I mean RA, GT, TM, ROFL, EoN, NF, LoI, TUC, LRA, CORVOS, and many others all have other motives So just eve support not Dust support? why are you in an alliance that has dust players I'm sure there's an EVE alliance that wouldn't mind 1-2 dust corps of your caliber then and can give you more support? I will grant you that NS definitely benefits from being in an alliance with the dominant Western block - RA as a whole gets access to a bunch of timers which are hard to target and NS get's insurance that if those timers are ever flipped they can be flipped back just as readily by their allies. The time zone advantage is a big one and a really underrated one right now imo. Agreed 100%As far as ROFL, LOl, and EoN. are relics of an earlier time when there were more alliances because of corp battles. At the beginning of PC there were seven major alliances. At the time there were forty some highly competitive corps all with good corp battle records and all of whom were eagerly pairing up and flaunting their colors and showing off their allies. Now there are three major alliances (By major I mean has multiple landowning corps outside of PFC) and I believe that from here on out alliances will never be like it was, since we now know who's on top. Alliances has become less a diplomatic flaunting and more a tactical actuality. Formal alliances are in many was a thing of the past with informal positioning being the key. I predict we'll see alliances more and more that are collections of allies clamoring for eve support. Eon.'s got RND and R* hell I think RND,Onslaught,KEQ,UPS,WRavens,and GAC ought to move on because they've got plenty of potential As I understand it, Top Men. is mostly a collection of dust players who come from Eve and want their alliances to carry over. NF as I already said and this thread has pointed out, is about branding. Top Men's almost 100% DUST and unrelated to EVE until the Gents need help we're out on a raft in the middle of the ocean... NF, they're a brand a household name, NF are mercs, hell I'll be suprised if PL doesn't get into an agreement with themLRA was initially founded with the intention of being a merc independent alliance, i.e. an alliance led by mercs rather than Eve players. As it is gameplay mechanics and lack of eve integration has led to many alliances being headed by mercs. I'm not sure what LRA is doing now. Same hereI was never quite sure what the umbra combine was. TSOLE I don't know corvos .IDK Matthew Dust is part of it though
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Posted - 2014.02.18 21:12:00 -
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Spartacus Dust wrote:The Corvos Is deployed out of Molden Heath currently, building our fleet size ;) Same Deal... http://www.twitch.tv/themittanidotcom
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Posted - 2014.02.18 21:18:00 -
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Benjamin Ciscko wrote:Simple Eve support is becoming increasingly more required and from what I have seen Tso's > Everyone in Eve who cares about Dust 514. I want to point out a few things
A PC means nothing in Eve other than small bonuses B Tso's isn't the strongest, just because you're the strongest group in MH doesn't mean you're the strongest who cares about Dust, PC just blows hard. C PC is meaningless other than for getting some people a large amount of ISK.
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Posted - 2014.02.18 21:44:00 -
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CR4SH OVERRIDE wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:Killar-12 wrote:God Hates Lags wrote:TBH, I think you can sum up every alliance in PC with the reason of Eve Support. I know that's why AE and NS are in RA as opposed to any other alliance, and it's definitely why we and SVER are in GT. The only other answer you might get is branding from the NF guys. Hmm, here what I think about that though is that there is more, I mean RA, GT, TM, ROFL, EoN, NF, LoI, TUC, LRA, CORVOS, and many others all have other motives So just eve support not Dust support? why are you in an alliance that has dust players I'm sure there's an EVE alliance that wouldn't mind 1-2 dust corps of your caliber then and can give you more support? Tso's are really dominant atm in MH. It would take everyone else's eve that regularly traverses MH together and add in pirates to bring down the 40 or so Ive seen Tso's bringing. Not to mention they could light the torches at Minas Tirith and bring in a lot of backup. A month ago 8-10 ships were sufficient...hell for the first few weeks Himiko was blapping 4-5 nublets from Renegade without ever losing a ship. But since then it's really heated up with all the fighting. I can't even imagine PC2.0 tbh. It'll be tougher for a lot of peeps when the only OB's are Eve OB's, similar to Faction Warfare. As soon as you have to transport mercs from one district to another in your MCC in open space where you are able to be attacked... EVE side will be a necessity. For sh1ts and giggles RA CEO- Lets attack FA... *sends attack* FA CEO- oh crap we are being attacked...*calls TSO* "Can you kill that MCC on the way over to our district?" TSO EVE- "sure thing" MCC *POP* RA CEO- "DAMN DAMN DAMN" FA CEO- "EZ" FA CEO- "now i can go back to fapping about anime" I hope Warbarges can be used either A Low and Null or B Anywhere, let's have some real fun.
also how did Derrith become CEO of FA?
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Posted - 2014.02.18 22:23:00 -
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CR4SH OVERRIDE wrote:Killar-12 wrote:CR4SH OVERRIDE wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:Killar-12 wrote: Hmm, here what I think about that though is that there is more, I mean RA, GT, TM, ROFL, EoN, NF, LoI, TUC, LRA, CORVOS, and many others all have other motives
So just eve support not Dust support? why are you in an alliance that has dust players I'm sure there's an EVE alliance that wouldn't mind 1-2 dust corps of your caliber then and can give you more support?
Tso's are really dominant atm in MH. It would take everyone else's eve that regularly traverses MH together and add in pirates to bring down the 40 or so Ive seen Tso's bringing. Not to mention they could light the torches at Minas Tirith and bring in a lot of backup. A month ago 8-10 ships were sufficient...hell for the first few weeks Himiko was blapping 4-5 nublets from Renegade without ever losing a ship. But since then it's really heated up with all the fighting. I can't even imagine PC2.0 tbh. It'll be tougher for a lot of peeps when the only OB's are Eve OB's, similar to Faction Warfare. As soon as you have to transport mercs from one district to another in your MCC in open space where you are able to be attacked... EVE side will be a necessity. For sh1ts and giggles RA CEO- Lets attack FA... *sends attack* FA CEO- oh crap we are being attacked...*calls TSO* "Can you kill that MCC on the way over to our district?" TSO EVE- "sure thing" MCC *POP* RA CEO- "DAMN DAMN DAMN" FA CEO- "EZ" FA CEO- "now i can go back to fapping about anime" I hope Warbarges can be used either A Low and Null or B Anywhere, let's have some real fun. also how did Derrith become CEO of FA? Twas an unhostile takeover... he bought Zat a new puppy and was immediately named CEO. This of course is all null because Mr. Machine Guns will be taking over FA soon! lol
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Posted - 2014.02.19 01:29:00 -
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Spartacus Dust wrote:Top Men is the only Alliance with REAL EVE backing it's just their Coalition doesn't give two ***** about Molden Heath. They are the sleeping giant.
And yeah, for the most part I'd say a lot of the alliances in DUST are poorly held together, most of them will probably self destruct in the near future. Feels warm and fuzzy for joining early
The CFC's arms are wide open. Sure we don't have the BEST sub pilots but guess what unless you summon TEST, PL,or someone else of that caliber, we've got more than you, and I guarentee who's pilots handle heavy TiDi and Lage fleets better. Anyways you know about those who will head anywhere just to make the most ISK or for glory seekers
God Hates Lags wrote:Killar-12 wrote:God Hates Lags wrote:Killar-12 wrote: Hmm, here what I think about that though is that there is more, I mean RA, GT, TM, ROFL, EoN, NF, LoI, TUC, LRA, CORVOS, and many others all have other motives
So just eve support not Dust support? why are you in an alliance that has dust players I'm sure there's an EVE alliance that wouldn't mind 1-2 dust corps of your caliber then and can give you more support?
I will grant you that NS definitely benefits from being in an alliance with the dominant Western block - RA as a whole gets access to a bunch of timers which are hard to target and NS get's insurance that if those timers are ever flipped they can be flipped back just as readily by their allies. The time zone advantage is a big one and a really underrated one right now imo. Agreed 100%As far as ROFL, LOl, and EoN. are relics of an earlier time when there were more alliances because of corp battles. At the beginning of PC there were seven major alliances. At the time there were forty some highly competitive corps all with good corp battle records and all of whom were eagerly pairing up and flaunting their colors and showing off their allies. Now there are three major alliances (By major I mean has multiple landowning corps outside of PFC) and I believe that from here on out alliances will never be like it was, since we now know who's on top. Alliances has become less a diplomatic flaunting and more a tactical actuality. Formal alliances are in many was a thing of the past with informal positioning being the key. I predict we'll see alliances more and more that are collections of allies clamoring for eve support. Eon.'s got RND and R* hell I think RND,Onslaught,KEQ,UPS,WRavens,and GAC ought to move on because they've got plenty of potential As I understand it, Top Men. is mostly a collection of dust players who come from Eve and want their alliances to carry over. NF as I already said and this thread has pointed out, is about branding. Top Men's almost 100% DUST and unrelated to EVE until the Gents need help we're out on a raft in the middle of the ocean... NF, they're a brand a household name, NF are mercs, hell I'll be suprised if PL doesn't get into an agreement with themLRA was initially founded with the intention of being a merc independent alliance, i.e. an alliance led by mercs rather than Eve players. As it is gameplay mechanics and lack of eve integration has led to many alliances being headed by mercs. I'm not sure what LRA is doing now. Same hereI was never quite sure what the umbra combine was. TSOLE I don't know corvos .IDK Matthew Dust is part of it though RND is unofficially allied with us, there was talk of them joining GT but it seems they decided to keep the old EoN. flag flying, a decision I completely sympathize with. This all just points to what I'm saying, alliances are artificial now. Allies aren't permanent, they never were, but now we in FA aren't any more distant from RND than we are from SVER. And that's nothing against SVER they're great guys but where the official alliance boundaries fall means nothing now. I wasn't fully aware what Top Men are. Still not tbh. perhaps you can educate me. I am aware that TSOLE is in Umbra Combine, but I don't know what the alliance is or what it is for. Timezone extension most likely. kk on RND's position, this idea of allies being temporary though **** that's not nessecarily a good outlook when stuff matter, NF really is the one best examples of a cohesive alliance that is well known I look at they've got rowdy guys but for the most part they're loyal and move on the beat of a single drummer, on the other hand GT seems like some friends getting together with all the corps acting fairly independently. But NF is definitely seen as less successful than GT.
Tired, But Soraya's explanation is a good overview, We're basically reserves, We can't help the CFC there is not much they can do to help us.
I meant that in the fact that TUC is basically the TSOLE, DMZ is there as are a few more but for the most part it's TSOLE.
@Zatara How many alliances has your 3 month old corp been in?
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Posted - 2014.02.19 01:46:00 -
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I may want to edit a previous point Gens, GIANT(who both have solid connections with GT) and the like and corps who were in GT earlier seem fine but the damn doughnut... STB, ML, 843, and FA's actions were on the other hand just following the doughnut...
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Posted - 2014.02.19 02:27:00 -
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Arunis Gen wrote:Killar-12 wrote:I may want to edit a previous point Gens, GIANT(who both have solid connections with GT) and the like and corps who were in GT earlier seem fine but the damn doughnut... STB, ML, 843, and FA's actions were on the other hand just following the doughnut...
Members of G I A N T have had ties to General Tso's and its CEO, Burseg Sardaukar, for years. We joined them after we deemed our time in EoN. (and constant nagging from Burseg) was done and with The Generals being close bros with us, we eventually brought them along. I have nothing against your core but damn it when FA acts like how they do... I lose my patience I think when someone who has contributed little to GT talks like he is talking like he owns GT
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Posted - 2014.02.19 02:33:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:Killar-12 wrote:I may want to edit a previous point Gens, GIANT(who both have solid connections with GT) and the like and corps who were in GT earlier seem fine but the damn doughnut... STB, ML, 843, and FA's actions were on the other hand just following the doughnut...
Don't forget how combined we own less than 20% of MH, right? RA owns upwards of 40%. So we have more corps in our alliance, they have (no disrespect meant to any corp in our alliance) more talent, more ISK, and more districts. More Talent... lol, Hahahaha, so you're admitting you're all bad? you've now got your selves into a catch 22...
I disagree you have more talent of equal quality you guys don't work with each other well enough, ML and 843 have some Great Heavies, Assaults and Logis, STB have great tankers, FA has great scouts and ALL of you have plenty of vets... ISK yeah STB's farming created 0 ISK smh...
Districts ya got me here, but as Meat Loaf said "Two out of three ain't bad,"
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Posted - 2014.02.19 04:15:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:Killar-12 wrote:More Talent... lol, Hahahaha, so you're admitting you're all bad? you've now got your selves into a catch 22...
I disagree you have more talent of equal quality you guys don't work with each other well enough, ML and 843 have some Great Heavies, Assaults and Logis, STB have great tankers, FA has great scouts and ALL of you have plenty of vets... ISK yeah STB's farming created 0 ISK smh...
Districts ya got me here, but as Meat Loaf said "Two out of three ain't bad," Well, the average player in AE is far better than me by a long shot. Of course I don't speak for my corp or alliance, I'm just FA's troll bait ;D I disagree have you seen rampage? Considering Nyain San is sitting on....what 50 districts? I'd think they'd have into the hundreds of billions of ISK, considering they've been around since Imperfects and are still farming those districts... Agreed but how well does NS really work with RA? Maybe it's just my perspective, but what I more meant by "more talent" is that it's all concentrated into one area. We try to consistently field full teams of FA. If we're looking for someone who excels in one role, then sure we have our places to get them from. I know my ML guys and 843 Guys the STB and FA went off of memory... Who the hell is "Meat Loaf"? Arunis Thank you
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Posted - 2014.02.19 13:47:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:Killar-12 wrote:Arunis Gen wrote:Killar-12 wrote:I may want to edit a previous point Gens, GIANT(who both have solid connections with GT) and the like and corps who were in GT earlier seem fine but the damn doughnut... STB, ML, 843, and FA's actions were on the other hand just following the doughnut...
Members of G I A N T have had ties to General Tso's and its CEO, Burseg Sardaukar, for years. We joined them after we deemed our time in EoN. (and constant nagging from Burseg) was done and with The Generals being close bros with us, we eventually brought them along. I have nothing against your core but damn it when FA acts like how they do... I lose my patience I think when someone who has contributed little to GT talks like he is talking like he owns GT Don't get your panties in a twist buddy. We are quite grateful Tso's has allowed us the be at the core of their dust operations. Yes yes Tso's is the best dust alliance for eve support. No this doesn't mean they are better than the CFC. Lol I'm sure Tso's will be Tso's regardless and their support has been amazing. It was a few posts, I might be a bit on edge due to RL and in house things... I've snapped out at many people here I need a damn war to fight in. I agree with most that you're saying that YOU say because you're rather polite I'm not going to say names but there have been a few from FA that really have gotten on my nerves enough for me to comment when you only recently joined. Tso's seems nice tbh, even though it seems a bit disorganized dust side compared to what it seems EVE side which seems to really get me... I'm not sure what to call it, I know that it seems more like a Coalition especially compared to EoN, NF, Top Men, or ROFL.
AE's been quiet in this thread can they only talk trash?
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Posted - 2014.02.20 00:35:00 -
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CookieStein wrote:BursegSardaukar wrote:Killar-12 wrote: Tso's seems nice tbh, even though it seems a bit disorganized dust side compared to what it seems EVE side
If only you could hear our comms. Cat herding doesn't begin to describe what being the FC of our fleet is like. If we cut out all ***** remarks you would only have to compete with Selina's horns and Sops sobbing. Horns... like Bicycle horns or like Viking ones?
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Posted - 2014.02.20 00:51:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:We get a lot of fights, null sec life i pretty fun. that is the simple reason behind it some other reasons i like my alliances is... We go out on a lot of fleets pretty much a fleet goes out at least once a day. Free to do what we please as an corporation not many restrictions. Like having experienced FC's that know how to lead fleets properly. Kill goons <-- Probably the best :) http://evemaps.dotlan.net/corp/Negative-Impact is the fun in killing goons out of a dislike of goons or out of you just like fighting them?
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Posted - 2014.02.20 20:30:00 -
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ER-Bullitt wrote:HIs name was Robert Paulson.
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I like General Tso's Chicken, extra crispy extra spicy
Some of the corps in this alliance have members with very squeaky voices.. and huge inflated egos... and some players with **** poor attitudes. I don't understand some of these kids who feel the need to CONSTANTLY flap their gums on comms.. for fucks sake just shut up and play your role.
Anyway.... bacon sucks.
+1 hell, +2
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