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Xander Mercy
Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance
198
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Posted - 2014.02.18 18:41:00 -
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Seigfried Warheit wrote:q-syncing is fantastic I love it saves my suits and you know you have support....your squad is doing most of the work anyways might as well just replace a few more blueberries so that your squad isn't the only one doing the work. Also its always fun to play with your friends. "q-syncing in pubs is for scrubs..FW is for the real players"....well FW payouts suck ass and don't pay for the lost suits so you can see the issue why people rather q-sync in pubs more profitable. ( Ill admit I still do FW though just cause I cant resist it ) finally the reasonable ppl are here |
Darken-Soul
BIG BAD W0LVES
851
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Posted - 2014.02.18 18:41:00 -
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Seigfried Warheit wrote:q-syncing is fantastic I love it saves my suits and you know you have support....your squad is doing most of the work anyways might as well just replace a few more blueberries so that your squad isn't the only one doing the work. Also its always fun to play with your friends. "q-syncing in pubs is for scrubs..FW is for the real players"....well FW payouts suck ass and don't pay for the lost suits so you can see the issue why people rather q-sync in pubs more profitable. ( Ill admit I still do FW though just cause I cant resist it )
lol fw
Who wants some?
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AP Grasshopper
The Unit 514
172
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Posted - 2014.02.18 19:02:00 -
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Darken-Soul wrote:Seigfried Warheit wrote:q-syncing is fantastic I love it saves my suits and you know you have support....your squad is doing most of the work anyways might as well just replace a few more blueberries so that your squad isn't the only one doing the work. Also its always fun to play with your friends. "q-syncing in pubs is for scrubs..FW is for the real players"....well FW payouts suck ass and don't pay for the lost suits so you can see the issue why people rather q-sync in pubs more profitable. ( Ill admit I still do FW though just cause I cant resist it ) lol fw
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CYRAX SERVIUS
Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives
932
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Posted - 2014.02.18 21:00:00 -
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Darken-Soul wrote:CYRAX SERVIUS wrote:Xander Mercy wrote:believe me i've been on both sides of the old stomp stick and i find it fun to go against organized team what upsets me is when the blue dots give up halfway through the match thats what makes it not fun. Like if im solo playing Dom and finally manage to clear the point in a losing battle but oh well all the bluedots are either snipping or messing around in the redline waiting for the match to end. i send good game mails that stay in the fight with me because those r the guys that stay on dust and become the stomper of new Well, the community has done it to itself. These guys in the redline are sick of the qsync protostompers. We qsnc all the time but we don't run our proto, in fact we enjoy taking down a few protostompers in pubs with basic gear. It is very frustrating to be the only squad on a sixteen man team doing anything, while the rest hide or give up. It is a growing cancer in this game, the recent matchmaking has made it a little better, but until people put down the proto and run ADV, this is what we have. A truly skilled squad can still run effectively without running the god mode suits. We've done it to ourselves people, no one else to blame. I escalate. Which usually lands me in an ion cannon Maddy. I'd love a fair fight. Or even a close one. New Eden is the home of onesided battles. Its where the elite feel good about crushing the beginners. Its where the end game is exploited so they can. Funny thing is I never see the elite with out proto gear. Maybe proto is elite and it really doesn't matter who wears it. Like I said, look to see who hides in the back or goes negative in basic gear without a squad sometime. 3/4 of these guys that protostomp couldn't fight their way out of a paper bag without proto gear and a squad to help.
CEO
Whiskey squad leader
Invictus Maneo~"I Remain Unvanquished"~
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CYRAX SERVIUS
Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives
932
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Posted - 2014.02.18 21:04:00 -
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Seigfried Warheit wrote:q-syncing is fantastic I love it saves my suits and you know you have support....your squad is doing most of the work anyways might as well just replace a few more blueberries so that your squad isn't the only one doing the work. Also its always fun to play with your friends. "q-syncing in pubs is for scrubs..FW is for the real players"....well FW payouts suck ass and don't pay for the lost suits so you can see the issue why people rather q-sync in pubs more profitable. ( Ill admit I still do FW though just cause I cant resist it ) FW is a joke dude!!!
CEO
Whiskey squad leader
Invictus Maneo~"I Remain Unvanquished"~
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
2620
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Posted - 2014.02.18 21:06:00 -
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I'd rather share that miniscule ISK pot with people that I know tried, instead of Joe Q. Scrubly and his band of tards occupying the bottom of the Killboard with their totally legit 0 WP and 78 combined deaths.
I GÖú Kittens.
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CYRAX SERVIUS
Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives
933
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Posted - 2014.02.18 21:12:00 -
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I will say this, we have been qsyncing and met up with DDB qsyncing, said F it, pulled out our proto gear and had probably some of the best pub matches I ever remember, to the end won one by two clones, lost one by three clones, great fkng battles and I'm sure they remember them too, GG's went all around. If the field was even and all battles were such, this game would have millions of players, but it is not.
When evenly matched up like that running proto is great, that's the time to do it, but against NPC corp players or randoms, it's weak.
CEO
Whiskey squad leader
Invictus Maneo~"I Remain Unvanquished"~
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Alternate Insano
SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD
97
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Posted - 2014.02.18 21:56:00 -
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There is no such thing as 'pubstomping' or 'protostomping'. There are good players, and there are bad players. Good players use the best available equipment, and take advantage of mics to coordinate with each other in battles. Bad players refuse to do what the good players do to win, even though the bad players have every chance available. Good players figure out the range of their weapon and pick fights at that range. Bad players never think of this. Good players learn to avoid enemy tanks. Bad players think tanks are the Devil. Good players learn to use a variety weapons. Bad players wonder why the ScR won't one hit everything. Good players trash talk each other on the forums. Bad players threaten to sue CCP over a free game. Good players recognize when they suck. Bad players blame anything else they can find.
DUST 514 Super Scrub
Level 262 Forum Troll
Play, or play not. There is no balance.
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CYRAX SERVIUS
Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives
933
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Posted - 2014.02.18 22:13:00 -
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Alternate Insano wrote:There is no such thing as 'pubstomping' or 'protostomping'. There are good players, and there are bad players. Good players use the best available equipment, and take advantage of mics to coordinate with each other in battles. Bad players refuse to do what the good players do to win, even though the bad players have every chance available. Good players figure out the range of their weapon and pick fights at that range. Bad players never think of this. Good players learn to avoid enemy tanks. Bad players think tanks are the Devil. Good players learn to use a variety weapons. Bad players wonder why the ScR won't one hit everything. Good players trash talk each other on the forums. Bad players threaten to sue CCP over a free game. Good players recognize when they suck. Bad players blame anything else they can find. Bad players try to justify how good they think they are.
CEO
Whiskey squad leader
Invictus Maneo~"I Remain Unvanquished"~
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Matticus Monk
Ordus Trismegistus
1253
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Posted - 2014.02.18 22:51:00 -
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:Too lazy and Youtubing to make a thread right now, so i'll post this here. King Babar has never stopped stomping since the 'help to the stompees' fa+ºade thing whatever its called. Just played in a pub, he is still using proto gear and spawn camping. But the spawn camp goes both ways cause your still spawning there. Anyway, yeah he still stomps so.... just sayin.'
Shocker.... can't say I'm at all surprised by this, although I haven't run across him in-game myself recently.
It's pretty simple, really. If you find yourself in a one-sided match, start handicapping yourself until the sides even out. If that means your Q-synched team reverts to all STD or MLT gear.... well, do it. If you need to have some of your guys run LOL fits that are not used to... do it. Need to stop laying remotes, guarding objectives, camping.... do it. No Q-sync next match? Do it.
Realistically, you can't change other people, you can only change yourself. So complaining that others need to use the tools given to them, while being correct (you're assuming they have the SP, mike, know-how, gear) is still way more likely to not get you anywhere than just changing your own approach.
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Nothing Certain
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
247
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Posted - 2014.02.18 23:09:00 -
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Alternate Insano wrote:There is no such thing as 'pubstomping' or 'protostomping'. There are good players, and there are bad players. Good players use the best available equipment, and take advantage of mics to coordinate with each other in battles. Bad players refuse to do what the good players do to win, even though the bad players have every chance available. Good players figure out the range of their weapon and pick fights at that range. Bad players never think of this. Good players learn to avoid enemy tanks. Bad players think tanks are the Devil. Good players learn to use a variety weapons. Bad players wonder why the ScR won't one hit everything. Good players trash talk each other on the forums. Bad players threaten to sue CCP over a free game. Good players recognize when they suck. Bad players blame anything else they can find.
Yeah, 3 million SP, one month playing, they should pull out their proto suits, link up with their buddies flying top of the line dropships and driving top tanks and play like real men and quit their bitching. What a hero.
Because, that's why.
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Alternate Insano
SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD
100
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Posted - 2014.02.18 23:21:00 -
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I'm one month playing, have no proto, and come in top 5 more often than not. My favorite fit (Basic sentinel, adv hmg) got me 27/16/10 earlier. Thing is, I only use it toward the middle of the match. Normally I use militia minmatar light, militia ar or basic rr, militia uplinks, and mlt cardio. Correct me if I'm wrong, but this mlt fit that gets me 1000 wp MINIMUM even if my team loses, is available to EVERYBODY the first time they log in? We spell it out for you day after day...the only keeping you from succeeding at DUST is you.
DUST 514 Super Scrub
Level 262 Forum Troll
Play, or play not. There is no balance.
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Chuckles Brown
66
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Posted - 2014.02.18 23:31:00 -
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Alternate Insano wrote:There is no such thing as 'pubstomping' or 'protostomping'. There are good players, and there are bad players. Good players use the best available equipment, and take advantage of mics to coordinate with each other in battles. Bad players refuse to do what the good players do to win, even though the bad players have every chance available. Good players figure out the range of their weapon and pick fights at that range. Bad players never think of this. Good players learn to avoid enemy tanks. Bad players think tanks are the Devil. Good players learn to use a variety weapons. Bad players wonder why the ScR won't one hit everything. Good players trash talk each other on the forums. Bad players threaten to sue CCP over a free game. Good players recognize when they suck. Bad players blame anything else they can find.
That is the dumbest **** I have ever read... Start a new player. Then take it into public matches. Don't play with your corp, alliance, or anyone you know. Because remember new players only have randoms in squad finder. Sure, take everything you know about the game and apply it, as you can't unlearn it. Then, strive for 100,000 lifetime WP... Good luck with that. See how long it takes or until you just give up.
This whole "I get 1000WP in a MLT Heavy suit" is bullsh*t. So you get 15-20 kills a match, in MLT gear and no SP backing, while playing solo? Maybe once in a while you do, but not on a consistent basis.
I'll admit a lot of this game, or any FPS, is common sense. But remember how dumb you were when you started this game, just like we all were.
Yup, whip out that awesome equipment you magically think new players have... It takes 10m SP to be competitive in this game, especially against the vets. So go jerk your mother off somewhere else with your bullsh*t
The Official alt of 8213
Do you pub, brah?
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Alternate Insano
SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD
101
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Posted - 2014.02.19 00:16:00 -
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Chuckles, do you really suck that much? And I said mlt LIGHT, not mlt heavy. and yes, 1000 wp MINIMUM all day. Play dom. Run to objective. Drop uplinks. Charge nearest enemy and take him with you if you can. Respawn near obj, drop more uplinks, charge nearest enemy...
I dont have a mic, I solo random only. I am also secure enough to know when I suck it is not the other team's fault.
DUST 514 Super Scrub
Level 262 Forum Troll
Play, or play not. There is no balance.
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Meeko Fent
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
1757
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Posted - 2014.02.19 00:35:00 -
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NK Scout wrote:Xander Mercy wrote:Theres nothing wrong with running q-sync in pubs. The only defences between running solo or with a squad is the communication between players. So pretty much all your saying is "hey these guys are playing as a team and working together, thats not fair why can i do that" well you can its called squading up and it doesn't cost you any sp or isk in fact it may just save you some. And if thats not enough ccp even gave you away to make it easier than it ever was before with squad finder. So get in there start a squad and give us "Stompers" a good fight. Remember like a great earth loving man once said: THE POWER IS YOURS!!! *reads *checks corp *checks alliance *laughs so hard *leaves Nothing like getting 10 proto stompers on 1 team.... This.
Q-syncing itself isn't terribad, but it's being done in the worst place for a game.
But it's being done in a place which means nothing, and on people who want to have a chill time.
Seriously, do you need 12 guys from your corp to win a match that means nothing?
Why does it matter to you if you absolutely crush the other guys in a pub? Seriously, it means about as much as spit.
Sadly, we all probably know why it's done, particularly by huge corps. Peoe who feel striking their epeen is much more important then have a fun, tight match, with equally matched teams.
Don't tell me joining a squad of randoms is any better then being solo, they probably don't have mics either. You don't improve yourself in any way by using the squad finder, you improve the game of the squad lead more then anything, particularly because most random. Squad leads don't know how to be a squad lead.
Get Gud only works if the field was level in the first place.
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Meeko Fent
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
1757
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Posted - 2014.02.19 00:40:00 -
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Nothing Certain wrote:Alternate Insano wrote:There is no such thing as 'pubstomping' or 'protostomping'. There are good players, and there are bad players. Good players use the best available equipment, and take advantage of mics to coordinate with each other in battles. Bad players refuse to do what the good players do to win, even though the bad players have every chance available. Good players figure out the range of their weapon and pick fights at that range. Bad players never think of this. Good players learn to avoid enemy tanks. Bad players think tanks are the Devil. Good players learn to use a variety weapons. Bad players wonder why the ScR won't one hit everything. Good players trash talk each other on the forums. Bad players threaten to sue CCP over a free game. Good players recognize when they suck. Bad players blame anything else they can find. Yeah, 3 million SP, one month playing, they should pull out their proto suits, link up with their buddies flying top of the line dropships and driving top tanks and play like real men and quit their bitching. What a hero. *Slow clap*
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Alternate Insano
SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD
102
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Posted - 2014.02.19 01:12:00 -
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I just can't stop laughing at this. QQ over people doing whatever they can to win. I feel the need to point out at this time: 1. DUST 514 is a game. EVERY match is meaningless. You don't really win control of real planets in FW. 2. All games have winners and losers. Some games give out medals to everyone. DUST is no exception. You can grenade suicide, go 0/40, directly cause your team to lose, and STILL get 3000 sp and 150k isk EVERY match. 3. My 7 yr old kid made a DUST acct and can get 20 kpm. There is simply no excuse for blaming the other guy's gun, tank, squad, corp, or mother for you trying to play DUST like it was COD. 4. If you do find yourself vapor locking over this game, it's prolly time for a break. Even if you never come back to it, DUST 514 is was free, and you are out nothing.
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Level 262 Forum Troll
Play, or play not. There is no balance.
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Captain Crutches
Nexus Marines
51
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Posted - 2014.02.19 01:40:00 -
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Personally, I would be much less frustrated at getting stomped if I was getting stomped by people who really use teamwork and tactics to win or are genuinely better at the game than me, than by people who dominate simply because they run gear that most of the guys on my team have neither the ISK nor the SP to use.
Not saying that a lot of the protostompers don't also use teamwork and tactics to their advantage - that's all fine and should be encouraged - but stat padders who run protosquads because they know their gear will squash the opposition without challenge should feel bad because they're turning even beta vets like me off this game, to say nothing of the newberries who see that as their first experience out of the academy.
Of course, Scotty should also feel bad because his aptitude for finding appropriate challenges for these protosquads is abysmal, and I'm strongly in favor of a high-priority matchmaking overhaul to create more balanced pub matches in terms of squads and SP. I want to log into Dust for an hour and have fun... kill, die, win, lose, be challenged, not stomped.
FW, PC, and any other game modes that affect the greater New Eden universe should remain open to the same anything-goes mindset that Eve is so famous for, but pubs should be a place for people to have fun, not merely a stomping ground for protobears. No, it isn't "practice" for PC/FW, because there's no challenge involved. Bring back corp battles if you want a practice mode, that way one protosquad can fight another protosquad and be challenged on their terms, while more casual or lower SP players can be challenged on their terms in pubs.
-My .02 isk
Anti-Respec | Anti-Protostomp | Anti-"Slayer Logi" | Pro-Tiericide | Pro-EVE/Dust Link | Pro-CCP
Winning > KDR
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J4yne C0bb
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
228
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Posted - 2014.02.19 01:50:00 -
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Xander Mercy wrote:if they want to separate us this is how they should group pubs selection high sec pub- basic suits only no vehicles no proto weapons (normal payout) low sec pub- basic-advance suits no proto tanks or ads (1.5x normal payout) null sec pub- do what ever the **** you want the cops don't come to this this part of the ghetto (2x normal payout) everyones happy no one gets gear stomped null sec is the blood bath it should be This right here. Meta-level capped matches are the way to go. You should be able to choose the security level match you want to participate in.
Min Logi | aka Punch R0ckgroin, Fatsuit
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Meeko Fent
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
1757
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Posted - 2014.02.19 02:05:00 -
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Captain Crutches wrote:Personally, I would be much less frustrated at getting stomped if I was getting stomped by people who really use teamwork and tactics to win or are genuinely better at the game than me, than by people who dominate simply because they run gear that most of the guys on my team have neither the ISK nor the SP to use.
Not saying that a lot of the protostompers don't also use teamwork and tactics to their advantage - that's all fine and should be encouraged - but stat padders who run protosquads because they know their gear will squash the opposition without challenge should feel bad because they're turning even beta vets like me off this game, to say nothing of the newberries who see that as their first experience out of the academy.
Of course, Scotty should also feel bad because his aptitude for finding appropriate challenges for these protosquads is abysmal, and I'm strongly in favor of a high-priority matchmaking overhaul to create more balanced pub matches in terms of squads and SP. I want to log into Dust for an hour and have fun... kill, die, win, lose, be challenged, not stomped.
FW, PC, and any other game modes that affect the greater New Eden universe should remain open to the same anything-goes mindset that Eve is so famous for, but pubs should be a place for people to have fun, not merely a stomping ground for protobears. No, it isn't "practice" for PC/FW, because there's no challenge involved. Bring back corp battles if you want a practice mode, that way one protosquad can fight another protosquad and be challenged on their terms, while more casual or lower SP players can be challenged on their terms in pubs.
-My .02 isk My Likes, take zem all.
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Aeon Amadi
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
4977
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Posted - 2014.02.19 05:37:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:The Attorney General wrote:If you q sync in pubs, you should feel bad because you are bad. Where else are players going to q-synch..? Faction Warfare? Waiting for a match for 15 minutes just so that one or two people get a Scotty error and don't make it in anyway? Just generally easier to q-synch in pub matches than hoping on a whim and a prayer that nothing goes wrong when q-synching FW. Did you know that if you take 12 people and queue up for either Amarr or Caldari you are going to get a match within a couple of minutes because it generates an attack? I guess AE goes looking for hard matches just like DDB. You want to try another bad excuse for why you need to form up to stomp scrubs? Or are you guys finally ready to admit you just want easy mode? Yet another RA corp that has zero interest in "good fights". Your alliance has to be one of the single biggest contributors to people fleeing this game like a sinking ship.
Is there a reason you always go for the corp tag in every single one of your responses? It really degrades your argument. It doesn't make you sound smart, witty or even the least bit like you know what you're talking about. Anyone can make generalizations based on corp tags. Point in case, you were part of ZionTCD so you must be a dumbass by your own logic because I was in ZionTCD as well (albeit in closed beta when they were actually worth something, lololol - see, I can troll too).
Vague association aside, I run Proto when the enemy runs Proto. Until then, I use BPO gear. Stop making assumptions based on affiliation and, I dunno, do something productive with yourself instead of being butt-hurt/jelly all the time.
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ERYN Warchild
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
15
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Posted - 2014.02.19 05:39:00 -
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I play the game. I snipe (well try too). I get killed. Sometimes I die quickly (which is often), other times I can hold my own and win that duel. They put the time into the game, they have it. I'm okay going 10/3 in my militia gear. I might not be good, but at least I stay positive (both in points and outlook). |
The Attorney General
2101
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Posted - 2014.02.19 06:21:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:
Is there a reason you always go for the corp tag in every single one of your responses? It really degrades your argument. It doesn't make you sound smart, witty or even the least bit like you know what you're talking about. Anyone can make generalizations based on corp tags. Point in case, you were part of ZionTCD so you must be a dumbass by your own logic because I was in ZionTCD as well (albeit in closed beta when they were actually worth something, lololol - see, I can troll too).
Vague association aside, I run Proto when the enemy runs Proto. Until then, I use BPO gear. Oh, and I run solo 75% of the time. Stop making assumptions based on affiliation and, I dunno, do something productive with yourself instead of being butt-hurt/jelly all the time.
So you make a reply, with no actual response to my counter to your argument that q syncing for FW takes too long. I like that.
You think I am trolling you, but I am not. RA is an alliance of players who are not respectable. DDB are nothing, NS is a pubstomping corp, and AE, who have quality, but obviously no heart, are not too be taken lightly, but are easily pushed over when the going gets tough.
You joined the alliance of cowards. Don't be surprised to get painted by the same brush.
Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
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Abron Garr
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
703
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Posted - 2014.02.19 06:42:00 -
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J4yne C0bb wrote:Xander Mercy wrote:if they want to separate us this is how they should group pubs selection high sec pub- basic suits only no vehicles no proto weapons (normal payout) low sec pub- basic-advance suits no proto tanks or ads (1.5x normal payout) null sec pub- do what ever the **** you want the cops don't come to this this part of the ghetto (2x normal payout) everyones happy no one gets gear stomped null sec is the blood bath it should be This right here. Meta-level capped matches are the way to go. You should be able to choose the security level match you want to participate in.
Been saying this since closed Beta. The same reason we don't have cynos, bubbles, carriers, dreads, SCs and Titans in hisec (or DDs in lowsec) is the same reason we shouldn't have proto-f@gs clown-stomping every other pub match. Those items/ships are detrimental to fun gameplay for newer players.
All they had to do at launch was create tiers based on the security of the system, adjust rewards accordingly and limit what meta gear can be used in the match. If you want to play with lower sp friends then you need to "ship down" so-to-speak. An organized team will still wipe an unorganized pub group, but it wouldn't be nearly as painful and the perception of unattainable power due to the perceived gear-gap would diminish.
Unfortunately, even if it were implemented tomorrow, it would most likely be a day late and a dollar short. The Dust player base is probably too small to implement an effective matchmaking system. So much wasted potential. |
Cotsy8
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
9
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Posted - 2014.02.19 06:59:00 -
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There are only two problems, 1. Matchmaking system is not balanced. Balancing matches is a must to create enjoyable experience. Matching players skill level to ensure good players are playing against good players should be the goal. I shouldn't be able to join a match, regardless of which kind and have the teams unbalanced. It creates a greater experience for the majority of participants when the chances of winning or equal or as close to equal as possible. If you have joined or. created an excellent team, you should be matched up against quality opponents or at least a quality team. There should be no reason to complain about Proto stomping if the matches are fair and balanced. Those who can run pro to builds should be playing against opponents who are just as capable of running the same gear, have the same skill level, and have the knowledge required to win a battle. This is not the case in the majority of matches and its a huge draw back for the game.
2. You mentioned the fact that teaming and creating large, powerful teams in CoD... Well to counter this in CoD there is a Mercenary setting. Whereby if you want to pick up and play, you don't run into a situation where you battle against an elite squad. There are a lot of benefits to teaming and working together, but there needs to be an option for players to login and play a quick, evenly matched and balanced game.
If the elite want to team up into elite teams and "Porto stomp" the weak in ambush or whatever, that's fine for them. But , honestly ruins the experience for the other team, as well as sometimes other members of your own team. Matches should be made so that both sides can win, so strong teams play strong players and teams. If you don't think match making balancing is a serious issue then you don't enjoy a challenge and a video game should be a enjoyable challenge. Unless its demon's souls.
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Baal Roo
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
2994
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Posted - 2014.02.19 07:07:00 -
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I will continue to play videogames with my friends, even when there are more than 6 of us playing at the same time. I don't care about "stomping" or "noobs" or any other meta nonsense. I play Dust 514 because it supports large organizations of players called corporations. That is literally the only draw this game has right now. So, if you tell me "hey, you can't play with large groups of your corp mates anymore" then I'll just quit playing the game entirely.
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Aeon Amadi
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
4982
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Posted - 2014.02.19 12:53:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:
Is there a reason you always go for the corp tag in every single one of your responses? It really degrades your argument. It doesn't make you sound smart, witty or even the least bit like you know what you're talking about. Anyone can make generalizations based on corp tags. Point in case, you were part of ZionTCD so you must be a dumbass by your own logic because I was in ZionTCD as well (albeit in closed beta when they were actually worth something, lololol - see, I can troll too).
Vague association aside, I run Proto when the enemy runs Proto. Until then, I use BPO gear. Oh, and I run solo 75% of the time. Stop making assumptions based on affiliation and, I dunno, do something productive with yourself instead of being butt-hurt/jelly all the time.
So you make a reply, with no actual response to my counter to your argument that q syncing for FW takes too long. I like that. You think I am trolling you, but I am not. RA is an alliance of players who are not respectable. DDB are nothing, NS is a pubstomping corp, and AE, who have quality, but obviously no heart, are not too be taken lightly, but are easily pushed over when the going gets tough. You joined the alliance of cowards. Don't be surprised to get painted by the same brush.
I responded to the majority of your post, which is easy to overlook your "point" when most of it consists of... again... Ad Hominem. Which is, incidentally, what this next post consists of. Why should I waste my time debating something when you, like many others, aren't willing to hear any other argument but your own and will use any logical fallacy you can muster to make your argument stand out as anything other than sheer, bitter, acidic bullshit?
And the ultimate hilarity of this is that you rope hundreds of players into the same batch because of alphanumeric characters located beneath their character name, stating that they are not respectable and an "alliance of cowards" because of... what, exactly? That they hold 45% of PC and you, for whatever reason, do not? Or is it because of this vague assumption that all RA members are pubstompers, which I find even more humorous because -that's the way the game has been designed-. You are literally getting buttfrustrated because players are using the most competitive tools available in a competitive game to bolster their competitive strengths. Don't like it, go play Halo and find a weapon laying out on the field, maybe that'll be more "challenging" for you.
My final point here is that for a man that gets butthurt about players, squads, corporations, alliances or whatever entity q-synching in pubs, you go on the forums and say that you like challenging fights... Interesting. So, you like challenging fights but for some inexplicable reason, pub-matches aren't your venue, despite your obvious assertion that these players are going in pubs SOLELY so they can "stomp".
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OliX PRZESMIEWCA
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Posted - 2014.02.19 14:30:00 -
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Baal Roo wrote:I will continue to play videogames with my friends, even when there are more than 6 of us playing at the same time. I don't care about "stomping" or "noobs" or any other meta nonsense. I play Dust 514 because it supports large organizations of players called corporations. That is literally the only draw this game has right now. So, if you tell me "hey, you can't play with large groups of your corp mates anymore" then I'll just quit playing the game entirely.
That being said, when we're qsyncing we always stick to Faction Warfare.
Nobody is saying that You can't go full squad on pub or even qsync. I don't know why people change their fits to proto when they see that enemy are most militia newberries. Is it fun to go 20/30/40 to 0 with guys who can't do anything else than spawn&die. Very heroic. Make screenshot how U pown noobs. Fantastic.
When I see newberries I stick to my dragonfly fit. People dragonfly / militia with full core skills is same as adv tier. But no... The one shoot kill is what I need... Lol
Biggest screws are those who can't realise the versatility of vet player. We can make hundrets of dropsuits, each different, each for other purpose. Fresh player don't even know half of things that You can wear.
Challenge, challenge, challenge.
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Hecarim Van Hohen
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2014.02.19 15:07:00 -
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Venerable Phage wrote:What is the description text for a pub contract game? Public Contracts Issued by corporations in high security space, these are available for lone mercenaries or small squads.
Restrict high sec to adv gear Create low / null sec contracts that allow proto gear
I will show you fear in a handful of dust.
1.7 best match (HMG): 40/9/9 (K/A/D)
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TheD1CK
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2014.02.19 15:20:00 -
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Q-syncing pubs is the lamest thing you can do on dust... We all know how balanced the servers are, so if you bring in 12 there is 0.1% chance of meeting capable opposition .... there is no defending necessary
Q-synced pub-stomps just de-value the skills of involved players After battle when you think you did a GG, take a look at scoreboard
Wow! 12 of you just took out 10 guys from an NPC corp! Badass!! lol
Plasma Cannon will have its chance if AR/HAV 514 is ever fixed
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