DUST Search - Defending The "Stomp"

Michael-J-Fox Richards wrote:

The Attorney General wrote:

Vicious Minotaur wrote:

Xander Mercy wrote:

Vicious Minotaur wrote:

Because a group of randoms squadded up via the squad finder is totally on the same level as a tight knit group of "stompers." And factors like an experience disparity, an SP disparity, the gear disparity... Well, as we all know, those don't actually exist.

Teamwork obviously is the be all end all, and will create an entirely level playing field.

if they have there mic on and use then its the same thing i squad with randoms all the time. gear means nothing, randoms can run proto too

Randoms can only run proto if they have the SP to use it. It is a bit hard to run proto when you literally are incapable of running it. And gear means nothing? Are you unaware of the differences between tiers?

It is as if you can't do basic math.

Remember, he is trying to justify grouping up to stomp on noobs like he is a boss.

That is the type of person you are trying to debate with, don't waste your breath.

yea q sync'ing and playing with friends is cheating, this game should be like real life warfare where random dudes just meet up and attack **** with no real game plan, just like real life established militaries do. also they need to get rid of voice chat because telling someone there is bad guys behind em is ridiculously OP. also remove rep tools, nanohives/injectors and scanners

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Xander Mercy Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 189	Posted - 2014.02.18 05:51:00 - [31] - Quote Darken-Soul wrote: you should see chickens proto stomp. They will all peck one until its crippled. That's what spawn camping reminds me of. All the roosters tearing the shitouta a weak one. i hate spawn camping i always hack CRUs and shot uplinks but i refuse to hack anything if im by myself unless i know there no enemies around. getting shot in the back pisses my off more then anything
Xander Mercy Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 189	Posted - 2014.02.18 05:54:00 - [32] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: Ran into two squads of FWA earlier today q-syncing into a Dom. They lost. lol those guy r pretty much organized randoms
The Attorney General 2021	Posted - 2014.02.18 05:54:00 - [33] - Quote Xander Mercy wrote: i hate spawn camping i always hack CRUs and shot uplinks but i refuse to hack anything if im by myself unless i know there no enemies around. getting shot in the back pisses my off more then anything Do something for the win? Not without my 5 buddies to back me up! Come at me MLT suit wearer! I am all pro! Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
The Attorney General 2021	Posted - 2014.02.18 05:55:00 - [34] - Quote Xander Mercy wrote: Leadfoot10 wrote: Ran into two squads of FWA earlier today q-syncing into a Dom. They lost. lol those guy r pretty much organized randoms Which is exactly what you said was enough to counter a q sync? So you just disproved yourself. Great job. Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
Xander Mercy Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 189	Posted - 2014.02.18 06:00:00 - [35] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: Xander Mercy wrote: Leadfoot10 wrote: Ran into two squads of FWA earlier today q-syncing into a Dom. They lost. lol those guy r pretty much organized randoms Which is exactly what you said was enough to counter a q sync? So you just disproved yourself. Great job. omg your still here stalking me after all this time or did you just happen to come back on the forums when i did, either way that's kind of creey yet so sad at the same time.
Michael-J-Fox Richards Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 29	Posted - 2014.02.18 06:03:00 - [36] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: Vicious Minotaur wrote: Xander Mercy wrote: Vicious Minotaur wrote: Because a group of randoms squadded up via the squad finder is totally on the same level as a tight knit group of "stompers." And factors like an experience disparity, an SP disparity, the gear disparity... Well, as we all know, those don't actually exist. Teamwork obviously is the be all end all, and will create an entirely level playing field. if they have there mic on and use then its the same thing i squad with randoms all the time. gear means nothing, randoms can run proto too Randoms can only run proto if they have the SP to use it. It is a bit hard to run proto when you literally are incapable of running it. And gear means nothing? Are you unaware of the differences between tiers? It is as if you can't do basic math. Remember, he is trying to justify grouping up to stomp on noobs like he is a boss. That is the type of person you are trying to debate with, don't waste your breath. yea q sync'ing and playing with friends is cheating, this game should be like real life warfare where random dudes just meet up and attack **** with no real game plan, just like real life established militaries do. also they need to get rid of voice chat because telling someone there is bad guys behind em is ridiculously OP. also remove rep tools, nanohives/injectors and scanners http://i40.tinypic.com/33w8wtd.jpg Not my highest, but the best one i've taken a picture of. Assault Dropship Pilot
NK Scout Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 439	Posted - 2014.02.18 06:05:00 - [37] - Quote Michael-J-Fox Richards wrote: The Attorney General wrote: Vicious Minotaur wrote: Xander Mercy wrote: Vicious Minotaur wrote: Because a group of randoms squadded up via the squad finder is totally on the same level as a tight knit group of "stompers." And factors like an experience disparity, an SP disparity, the gear disparity... Well, as we all know, those don't actually exist. Teamwork obviously is the be all end all, and will create an entirely level playing field. if they have there mic on and use then its the same thing i squad with randoms all the time. gear means nothing, randoms can run proto too Randoms can only run proto if they have the SP to use it. It is a bit hard to run proto when you literally are incapable of running it. And gear means nothing? Are you unaware of the differences between tiers? It is as if you can't do basic math. Remember, he is trying to justify grouping up to stomp on noobs like he is a boss. That is the type of person you are trying to debate with, don't waste your breath. yea q sync'ing and playing with friends is cheating, this game should be like real life warfare where random dudes just meet up and attack **** with no real game plan, just like real life established militaries do. also they need to get rid of voice chat because telling someone there is bad guys behind em is ridiculously OP. also remove rep tools, nanohives/injectors and scanners checks corp laughs leaves 2 exiles assault rifles, Skinweave caldari frame, Staff recruiter mlt frame, Templar set Caldari Master Race*
Shane999 Stalkers Stand Alone Clones 4	Posted - 2014.02.18 06:05:00 - [38] - Quote Your a dumabass. The problem is all you Corps Proto Stomping pubs because you have no lives and can run proto all day thats bullshit. Syncing two teams i could care less about but all the corps locking districts then proto stomping pubs is why this game is dying.
Xander Mercy Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 189	Posted - 2014.02.18 06:05:00 - [39] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: Xander Mercy wrote: i hate spawn camping i always hack CRUs and shot uplinks but i refuse to hack anything if im by myself unless i know there no enemies around. getting shot in the back pisses my off more then anything Do something for the win? Not without my 5 buddies to back me up! Come at me MLT suit wearer! I am all pro! 1 guy is fine and i can only carry a team so far solo so 1 bluedot watching my back while i hack is all i ask. sorry was i asking for to much
The Attorney General 2022	Posted - 2014.02.18 06:13:00 - [40] - Quote Xander Mercy wrote: 1 guy is fine and i can only carry a team so far solo so 1 bluedot watching my back while i hack is all i ask. sorry was i asking for to much Did someone from DDB just claim to carry? Thanks for the laugh. Mr. Hybrid Vayu.

Xander Mercy Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 189	Posted - 2014.02.18 06:22:00 - [41] - Quote Shane999 Stalkers wrote: Your a dumabass. The problem is all you Corps Proto Stomping pubs because you have no lives and can run proto all day thats bullshit. Syncing two teams i could care less about but all the corps locking districts then proto stomping pubs is why this game is dying. not every big corp member you see is in proto gear thats the problem with you guy you assume to much i get hate mail about tank spam after matches were my squad didnt use a single tank but everyone just thinks its us. why? because we're a good corp and usually r at the top of the match leader board. so ppl say oh they're all running proto or those tanks were all theirs i bet. man of my corp doesn't even run proto must of the time, only if the other team does first. Also idk about other corps but my corp aswell as STB don't just give money to its members unless we're dirt broke but even then we usually ask other members first
Mike Ox Bigger The Phoenix Federation Proficiency V. 133	Posted - 2014.02.18 06:24:00 - [42] - Quote Is protostomping even a thing anymore? Seriously with LP everyone has proto suits. It kinds pisses me off because I worked hard to get the two I got and now we got all these fake protos running around :) and it really doesn't take long to get one good piece of equipment, which is all you need unless you're a logi. Communication is the key, I bring proto hives, you got proto uplinks, our logi is running a proto repper and needle, and someone has a proto scanner. Damn we're all set. Teamwork is OP. Or you could say at the games current state... I got a proto blaster, you got a proto rail, and he's got a ADS. Damn we're all set, vehicles are OP!
Dauth Jenkins Ultramarine Corp 53	Posted - 2014.02.18 06:34:00 - [43] - Quote Xander Mercy wrote: Theres nothing wrong with running q-sync in pubs. The only defences between running solo or with a squad is the communication between players. So pretty much all your saying is "hey these guys are playing as a team and working together, thats not fair why can i do that" well you can its called squading up and it doesn't cost you any sp or isk in fact it may just save you some. And if thats not enough ccp even gave you away to make it easier than it ever was before with squad finder. So get in there start a squad and give us "Stompers" a good fight. Remember like a great earth loving man once said: THE POWER IS YOURS!!! Q-sync in pubs is not inherently bad, it's just that most of the time, when facing a q-sync, every firefight will be a lopsided fight where it's 1v2 or 1v3. Most squads in squad finder are just people looking to drop orbitals, not people looking to play as a team, so it can be hard to find a good squad, especially for people in the smaller corps. Also, the people who q-sync and spam nothing but tanks and ADS, or full protosuit teams can make the match seem even more imbalanced. Personally, that's the reason I love academy battles so much. Everyone is at about the same level, so it's more of a fair fight. I wouldn't mind seeing 2 q-synced teams fight in nothing but mlt frontline suits. CCP! Make it happen! Sees prototompers... Sees blueberries start to snipe... Pulls out commando suit with laser rifle and swarm launcher...
Xander Mercy Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 189	Posted - 2014.02.18 06:35:00 - [44] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: Xander Mercy wrote: 1 guy is fine and i can only carry a team so far solo so 1 bluedot watching my back while i hack is all i ask. sorry was i asking for to much Did someone from DDB just claim to carry? Thanks for the laugh. this was a lose btw ambush oms sadly my back gave out from the weight of the team before i could make it to the top of the hill called victory. Also before you say it this was all advanced gear http://static.dyp.im/oVyZhYUZyD/712eccb0581e6f2c7034c371e906758c.JPG didn't feel like shorting the link
Dauth Jenkins Ultramarine Corp 53	Posted - 2014.02.18 06:36:00 - [45] - Quote Mike Ox Bigger wrote: Is protostomping even a thing anymore? Seriously with LP everyone has proto suits. It kinds pisses me off because I worked hard to get the two I got and now we got all these fake protos running around :) and it really doesn't take long to get one good piece of equipment, which is all you need unless you're a logi. Communication is the key, I bring proto hives, you got proto uplinks, our logi is running a proto repper and needle, and someone has a proto scanner. Damn we're all set. Teamwork is OP. Or you could say at the games current state... I got a proto blaster, you got a proto rail, and he's got a ADS. Damn we're all set, vehicles are OP! The Plasma Cannon in the corner whispers, "one day ill be OP too!" Sees prototompers... Sees blueberries start to snipe... Pulls out commando suit with laser rifle and swarm launcher...
Xander Mercy Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 189	Posted - 2014.02.18 06:43:00 - [46] - Quote and the lawyer finally goes away as a masses cheer in the background.
The Attorney General 2023	Posted - 2014.02.18 06:46:00 - [47] - Quote Xander Mercy wrote: The Attorney General wrote: Xander Mercy wrote: 1 guy is fine and i can only carry a team so far solo so 1 bluedot watching my back while i hack is all i ask. sorry was i asking for to much Did someone from DDB just claim to carry? Thanks for the laugh. this was a lose btw ambush oms sadly my back gave out from the weight of the team before i could make it to the top of the hill called victory. Also before you say it this was all advanced gear http://static.dyp.im/oVyZhYUZyD/712eccb0581e6f2c7034c371e906758c.JPG didn't feel like shorting the link Oh, a pub match. I am so impressed that you managed to lose an ambush. I would imagine the opposition was of garbage quality, which is why you cut it down to only show your score. Maybe one day you can be top of the PC scoreboard in a loss. Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
Xander Mercy Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 189	Posted - 2014.02.18 06:57:00 - [48] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: Xander Mercy wrote: The Attorney General wrote: Xander Mercy wrote: 1 guy is fine and i can only carry a team so far solo so 1 bluedot watching my back while i hack is all i ask. sorry was i asking for to much Did someone from DDB just claim to carry? Thanks for the laugh. this was a lose btw ambush oms sadly my back gave out from the weight of the team before i could make it to the top of the hill called victory. Also before you say it this was all advanced gear http://static.dyp.im/oVyZhYUZyD/712eccb0581e6f2c7034c371e906758c.JPG didn't feel like shorting the link Oh, a pub match. I am so impressed that you managed to lose an ambush. I would imagine the opposition was of garbage quality, which is why you cut it down to only show your score. Maybe one day you can be top of the PC scoreboard in a loss. i took it like this awhile ago because my camera sucks. my team was just really bad they tried to rush the enemy but just got mowed down
lowratehitman Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1009	Posted - 2014.02.18 07:16:00 - [49] - Quote I used to pub stomp back in the day, but as of now I run OPEN squads in the squad finder, allowing subscribers to play with me, and sometimes, it is a struggle, but it gives me reason to run full proto, being how I am mostly the only one in the squad that has the sp for it. I have found that I can run full blueprint and die by the same amount of rounds as if I was in full proto.
Chuckles Brown 54	Posted - 2014.02.18 07:49:00 - [50] - Quote Q-syncing is rather pointless, and boring. Its only needed for Caldari and Amarr FW, as if you have more than 5 bluedots on your teams whilst fighting for those factions, you will no doubt lose terribly, as they assist the other team by "boosting" for them. I'm starting to be convinced its an inside job that goes deep, deep into New Eden. Gallente and Minmatar made a lot of back alley deals to have control of the Universe. The Official alt of 8213 Do you pub, brah?

Yan Darn Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 230	Posted - 2014.02.18 08:53:00 - [51] - Quote Xander Mercy wrote: believe me i've been on both sides of the old stomp stick and i find it fun to go against organized team what upsets me is when the blue dots give up halfway through the match thats what makes it not fun. Like if im solo playing Dom and finally manage to clear the point in a losing battle but oh well all the bluedots are either snipping or messing around in the redline waiting for the match to end. i send good game mails that stay in the fight with me because those r the guys that stay on dust and become the stomper of new ^ I don't see a particularly need to q-sync, but the corp aspect is big part of what is keeping a lot of players still playing, you can't blame them for wanting to play together - as log as they don't get complacent and just assume they will lose if they don't sync. Yesterday I was with one other scout (fought each other the match before and then teamed up - no comms, just a pair of scouts in a squad) and I think only 4-5 of us were trying during a stomp. Between us, managed to cap/hold 1-2 points at a time - we risked ourselves to stop a complete redline, while at least 6 blues (presumably a squad?), just sat at a spawn point. If they'd had mucked in, we coulda taken that back to a good resistance - instead it remained a stomp. You probably don't know me. But next time you get gunned down or exploded by a Valor scout...check the name.
Xander Mercy Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 192	Posted - 2014.02.18 13:08:00 - [52] - Quote and its not like we q-sync all the time. its more of a once in awhile fun thing to do, Most of the time when we end up in the same match its a complete accident
The Attorney General 2044	Posted - 2014.02.18 14:44:00 - [53] - Quote Xander Mercy wrote: and its not like we q-sync all the time. its more of a once in awhile fun thing to do, Most of the time when we end up in the same match its a complete accident Any Q syncing in pub matches is the sign of a scrub corp. I don't know why you needed so many pages to get this drummed into your thick head. You are bad because you q sync pubs. You should feel bad for needing to get 11 others to help you win a pub match. You could go and play some Caldari or Amarr FW, but that would require effort, and maybe some skills, which DDB lacks a whole. Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
Sleepy Shadow L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 102	Posted - 2014.02.18 15:38:00 - [54] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: Xander Mercy wrote: Leadfoot10 wrote: Ran into two squads of FWA earlier today q-syncing into a Dom. They lost. lol those guy r pretty much organized randoms Which is exactly what you said was enough to counter a q sync? So you just disproved yourself. Great job. OMG, I lolled much too hard at this. As for Xander, when people q-sync to pubs, are they looking for a challenge? Are they expecting fierce competition? Or are they looking for a nice and easy stomp to pad their stats? I dare you to answer yes to the first two questions. Yes to the last one is given though. No need to answer it. .ß¦óß¦î+ÿ+ÿß¦ÿß¦Å ß¦ó+ê+æß¦åß¦Åß¦ë - -Æß¦£ß¦îß¦îß+¦ Qß¦+ß¦Çß¦îß¦ë-ô-ù-+ß¦å ß¦áß¦Éß¦Ü+½ß¦â.
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 2353	Posted - 2014.02.18 16:04:00 - [55] - Quote so DDB can't win pubs with out syncing? damn, sad. Also what happened the last few times FA fought vs DDB without AE's support. Listen I'll change the song every week
Xander Mercy Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 192	Posted - 2014.02.18 16:40:00 - [56] - Quote Sleepy Shadow wrote: The Attorney General wrote: Xander Mercy wrote: Leadfoot10 wrote: Ran into two squads of FWA earlier today q-syncing into a Dom. They lost. lol those guy r pretty much organized randoms Which is exactly what you said was enough to counter a q sync? So you just disproved yourself. Great job. OMG, I lolled much too hard at this. As for Xander, when people q-sync to pubs, are they looking for a challenge? Are they expecting fierce competition? Or are they looking for a nice and easy stomp to pad their stats? I dare you to answer yes to the first two questions. Yes to the last one is given though. No need to answer it. just looking to have fun with friends while talking in corp chat nothing more nothing less. q-syncing for fw is hard then ppl make it out to be sense you have to get 12 ppl to agree on which faction to fight for since not everyone uses the same gear. For example i prefer amarr but pretty much no one else in my crop uses amarr stuff
Nothing Certain Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 242	Posted - 2014.02.18 16:44:00 - [57] - Quote Fraceska wrote: Is it the same for a proto logi going 1/0 and finishing first over all? Is that protostomping too? One guy does not constitute proto stomping, if he is part of a squad running proto in a pub filled with players that can't match their gear, then it is stomping. Because, that's why.
Fraceska Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 379	Posted - 2014.02.18 16:50:00 - [58] - Quote It's more that I can keep up my squad of mlt or std blues around me even going against other proto suits because the logi gear is that much better. Even not in a squad. Just the team holding down a location. A good logi can make even them a force to be reckoned with. It's just that in some games they lack that team work to even stand near each other. Even with nano-hives and triage nano-hives down. Proto injector and repper. Still they just run out in the middle and die. No way am I risking my suit to run out into the middle.
Xander Mercy Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 195	Posted - 2014.02.18 16:50:00 - [59] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: Xander Mercy wrote: and its not like we q-sync all the time. its more of a once in awhile fun thing to do, Most of the time when we end up in the same match its a complete accident Any Q syncing in pub matches is the sign of a scrub corp. I don't know why you needed so many pages to get this drummed into your thick head. You are bad because you q sync pubs. You should feel bad for needing to get 11 others to help you win a pub match. You could go and play some Caldari or Amarr FW, but that would require effort, and maybe some skills, which DDB lacks a whole. well like i said i only play amarr when i do fw since most of my isk goes amarr gear ascr amarr assault uplinks but no one else really use this stuff besides uplinks of course so there no point of them playing amarr so we usually end up in cal fw if we can even get enough ppl to play it since there no isk payout its kind of hard to get ppl to sync
The Attorney General 2057	Posted - 2014.02.18 16:54:00 - [60] - Quote Xander Mercy wrote: well like i said i only play amarr when i do fw since most of my isk goes amarr gear ascr amarr assault uplinks but no one else really use this stuff besides uplinks of course so there no point of them playing amarr so we usually end up in cal fw if we can even get enough ppl to play it since there no isk payout its kind of hard to get ppl to sync LOL, if your corp has not realized how important Amarr uplinks are going to be in PC, you will lose your land even faster than I thought. Beyond that though, I doubt that you have problems getting people into FW for the reasons you stated. More than likely they realize that playing a pub will be a stomp, but if they go FW, they just might end up against a full team. Can't let that happen, because then you would lose, or actually have to try. That is too much for DDB people. Mr. Hybrid Vayu.



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