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Xander Mercy Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 185	Posted - 2014.02.18 01:19:00 - [1] - Quote Theres nothing wrong with running q-sync in pubs. The only defences between running solo or with a squad is the communication between players. So pretty much all your saying is "hey these guys are playing as a team and working together, thats not fair why can i do that" well you can its called squading up and it doesn't cost you any sp or isk in fact it may just save you some. And if thats not enough ccp even gave you away to make it easier than it ever was before with squad finder. So get in there start a squad and give us "Stompers" a good fight. Remember like a great earth loving man once said: THE POWER IS YOURS!!!
The Attorney General 1990	Posted - 2014.02.18 01:24:00 - [2] - Quote If you q sync in pubs, you should feel bad because you are bad. Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
Fraceska Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 369	Posted - 2014.02.18 01:26:00 - [3] - Quote Is it the same for a proto logi going 1/0 and finishing first over all? Is that protostomping too?
Xander Mercy Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 185	Posted - 2014.02.18 01:28:00 - [4] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: If you q sync in pubs, you should feel bad because you are bad. are you a fan because if you are you can have my autograph if you want theres no need to follow me around like this.
Xander Mercy Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 186	Posted - 2014.02.18 01:29:00 - [5] - Quote Fraceska wrote: Is it the same for a proto logi going 1/0 and finishing first over all? Is that protostomping too? nope just a logi doing his job
The Attorney General 1993	Posted - 2014.02.18 01:31:00 - [6] - Quote Xander Mercy wrote: are you a fan because if you are you can have my autograph if you want theres no need to follow me around like this. I don't follow scrubs, it just happens that you keep making stupid posts. Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
NK Scout Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 431	Posted - 2014.02.18 01:32:00 - [7] - Quote Xander Mercy wrote: Theres nothing wrong with running q-sync in pubs. The only defences between running solo or with a squad is the communication between players. So pretty much all your saying is "hey these guys are playing as a team and working together, thats not fair why can i do that" well you can its called squading up and it doesn't cost you any sp or isk in fact it may just save you some. And if thats not enough ccp even gave you away to make it easier than it ever was before with squad finder. So get in there start a squad and give us "Stompers" a good fight. Remember like a great earth loving man once said: THE POWER IS YOURS!!! reads checks corp checks alliance laughs so hard leaves Nothing like getting 10 proto stompers on 1 team.... 2 exiles assault rifles, Skinweave caldari frame, Staff recruiter mlt frame, Templar set Caldari Master Race*
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7217	Posted - 2014.02.18 01:33:00 - [8] - Quote Xander Mercy wrote: Theres nothing wrong with running q-sync in pubs. The only defences between running solo or with a squad is the communication between players. So pretty much all your saying is "hey these guys are playing as a team and working together, thats not fair why can i do that" well you can its called squading up and it doesn't cost you any sp or isk in fact it may just save you some. And if thats not enough ccp even gave you away to make it easier than it ever was before with squad finder. So get in there start a squad and give us "Stompers" a good fight. Remember like a great earth loving man once said: THE POWER IS YOURS!!! It happens in all kind of FPS games from BF to CoD the gaming world over "Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
Soldiersaint BATTLE SURVEY GROUP Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 726	Posted - 2014.02.18 01:33:00 - [9] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: If you q sync in pubs, you should feel bad because you are bad. the only fool here is you. Smart people group up to take the victory. stupid people like you just stand around looking like retards.
danthrax martin Butcher's Nails 46	Posted - 2014.02.18 01:34:00 - [10] - Quote Is it soo hard to find another squad to go in with? Geez we found one and im only losing an average of 5 suits to the stompers instead of 11 OR SO. I even bring my own kleenex and pads for my bum. Adv. Commando, AR / swarm Adv. Sentinel, AR / HMG "I need More Ammo!!!"....."Medic!"

Soldiersaint BATTLE SURVEY GROUP Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 726	Posted - 2014.02.18 01:34:00 - [11] - Quote Xander Mercy wrote: Theres nothing wrong with running q-sync in pubs. The only defences between running solo or with a squad is the communication between players. So pretty much all your saying is "hey these guys are playing as a team and working together, thats not fair why can i do that" well you can its called squading up and it doesn't cost you any sp or isk in fact it may just save you some. And if thats not enough ccp even gave you away to make it easier than it ever was before with squad finder. So get in there start a squad and give us "Stompers" a good fight. Remember like a great earth loving man once said: THE POWER IS YOURS!!! I have never been able to do this before but man is it cool! You and your team become invincible demons!
Auris Lionesse Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance 224	Posted - 2014.02.18 01:35:00 - [12] - Quote The problem is pubs are running like nullsec instead of high sec. Nothing wrong with running expensive gear or a massive team imo despite my own disdain for it.
Everything Dies Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 487	Posted - 2014.02.18 01:37:00 - [13] - Quote Xander Mercy wrote: Theres nothing wrong with running q-sync in pubs. The only defences between running solo or with a squad is the communication between players. So pretty much all your saying is "hey these guys are playing as a team and working together, thats not fair why can i do that" well you can its called squading up and it doesn't cost you any sp or isk in fact it may just save you some. And if thats not enough ccp even gave you away to make it easier than it ever was before with squad finder. So get in there start a squad and give us "Stompers" a good fight. Remember like a great earth loving man once said: THE POWER IS YOURS!!! No, the problem is that q-syncing is usually done by older/larger corporations that will likely have a significant SP advantage over their opposition, which only further adds to the imbalance of the match. I'm not going to argue that q-synching is right or wrong, but I do want it to be known that the game needs to offer a "squad-free" version of the various match types to help the game grow. Just put yourself in a new player's shoes: "Hey, I'm fresh out of the academy...let me hop into a battle real quick. Oh, hey...the other team consists entirely of one corporation." I didn't know it was possible, but a month or so ago I dropped into a match where the enemy squad was ENTIRELY made up of What the French and their training corp (12 of them being from WTF proper.) Yeah, it went pretty much how you'd expect. Life is killing me.
NK Scout Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 431	Posted - 2014.02.18 01:37:00 - [14] - Quote NK Scout wrote: Xander Mercy wrote: Theres nothing wrong with running q-sync in pubs. The only defences between running solo or with a squad is the communication between players. So pretty much all your saying is "hey these guys are playing as a team and working together, thats not fair why can i do that" well you can its called squading up and it doesn't cost you any sp or isk in fact it may just save you some. And if thats not enough ccp even gave you away to make it easier than it ever was before with squad finder. So get in there start a squad and give us "Stompers" a good fight. Remember like a great earth loving man once said: THE POWER IS YOURS!!! reads checks corp checks alliance laughs so hard leaves Nothing like getting 10 proto stompers on 1 team.... 2 exiles assault rifles, Skinweave caldari frame, Staff recruiter mlt frame, Templar set Caldari Master Race*
Vicious Minotaur Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 674	Posted - 2014.02.18 01:47:00 - [15] - Quote Because a group of randoms squadded up via the squad finder is totally on the same level as a tight knit group of "stompers." And factors like an experience disparity, an SP disparity, the gear disparity... Well, as we all know, those don't actually exist. Teamwork obviously is the be all end all, and will create an entirely level playing field.
Xander Mercy Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 186	Posted - 2014.02.18 01:57:00 - [16] - Quote believe me i've been on both sides of the old stomp stick and i find it fun to go against organized team what upsets me is when the blue dots give up halfway through the match thats what makes it not fun. Like if im solo playing Dom and finally manage to clear the point in a losing battle but oh well all the bluedots are either snipping or messing around in the redline waiting for the match to end. i send good game mails that stay in the fight with me because those r the guys that stay on dust and become the stomper of new
Xander Mercy Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 186	Posted - 2014.02.18 02:01:00 - [17] - Quote Vicious Minotaur wrote: Because a group of randoms squadded up via the squad finder is totally on the same level as a tight knit group of "stompers." And factors like an experience disparity, an SP disparity, the gear disparity... Well, as we all know, those don't actually exist. Teamwork obviously is the be all end all, and will create an entirely level playing field. if they have there mic on and use then its the same thing i squad with randoms all the time. gear means nothing, randoms can run proto too
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 605	Posted - 2014.02.18 02:07:00 - [18] - Quote This post is a good example of why corp battles need to be brought back. Hell make it winner take all and really make em fight for it. CCP your matchmaking is better but still sucks a fair amount Henchmen21: Infantry Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
Venerable Phage Red Shirts Away Team 26	Posted - 2014.02.18 02:11:00 - [19] - Quote What is the description text for a pub contract game?
Vicious Minotaur Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 674	Posted - 2014.02.18 02:14:00 - [20] - Quote Xander Mercy wrote: Vicious Minotaur wrote: Because a group of randoms squadded up via the squad finder is totally on the same level as a tight knit group of "stompers." And factors like an experience disparity, an SP disparity, the gear disparity... Well, as we all know, those don't actually exist. Teamwork obviously is the be all end all, and will create an entirely level playing field. if they have there mic on and use then its the same thing i squad with randoms all the time. gear means nothing, randoms can run proto too Randoms can only run proto if they have the SP to use it. It is a bit hard to run proto when you literally are incapable of running it. And gear means nothing? Are you unaware of the differences between tiers? It is as if you can't do basic math.

The Attorney General 1999	Posted - 2014.02.18 02:19:00 - [21] - Quote Vicious Minotaur wrote: Xander Mercy wrote: Vicious Minotaur wrote: Because a group of randoms squadded up via the squad finder is totally on the same level as a tight knit group of "stompers." And factors like an experience disparity, an SP disparity, the gear disparity... Well, as we all know, those don't actually exist. Teamwork obviously is the be all end all, and will create an entirely level playing field. if they have there mic on and use then its the same thing i squad with randoms all the time. gear means nothing, randoms can run proto too Randoms can only run proto if they have the SP to use it. It is a bit hard to run proto when you literally are incapable of running it. And gear means nothing? Are you unaware of the differences between tiers? It is as if you can't do basic math. Remember, he is trying to justify grouping up to stomp on noobs like he is a boss. That is the type of person you are trying to debate with, don't waste your breath. Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
Xander Mercy Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 186	Posted - 2014.02.18 02:25:00 - [22] - Quote if they want to separate us this is how they should group pubs selection high sec pub- basic suits only no vehicles no proto weapons (normal payout) low sec pub- basic-advance suits no proto tanks or ads (1.5x normal payout) null sec pub- do what ever the **** you want the cops don't come to this this part of the ghetto (2x normal payout) everyones happy no one gets gear stomped null sec is the blood bath it should be
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1243	Posted - 2014.02.18 03:00:00 - [23] - Quote Proto gear is THAT much better than lesser gear. You can't just team up and stomp back with comms and organization. You can't get new players to be better than they are. Broke mechanic is broke and ppl like you make this game silly at best. However, my plan is working. DUST will be dead by 2015. Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!
Fire of Prometheus Alpha Response Command 3673	Posted - 2014.02.18 03:03:00 - [24] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: If you q sync in pubs, you should feel bad because you are bad. Just have you your 2000th like It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it -Aristotle
Fraceska Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 371	Posted - 2014.02.18 03:06:00 - [25] - Quote It also helps to have a good logi backing up those randoms. I mean eventually they do pick up on what they're suppose to do. If they stay together and there is not an ungodly amount of vehicles on the field I can keep them up to the point we're not burning through clones. But black and yellow proto suit makes me a target if the enemy knows what to look for lol.
Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES 812	Posted - 2014.02.18 03:19:00 - [26] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Xander Mercy wrote: Theres nothing wrong with running q-sync in pubs. The only defences between running solo or with a squad is the communication between players. So pretty much all your saying is "hey these guys are playing as a team and working together, thats not fair why can i do that" well you can its called squading up and it doesn't cost you any sp or isk in fact it may just save you some. And if thats not enough ccp even gave you away to make it easier than it ever was before with squad finder. So get in there start a squad and give us "Stompers" a good fight. Remember like a great earth loving man once said: THE POWER IS YOURS!!! It happens in all kind of FPS games from BF to CoD the gaming world over you should see chickens proto stomp. They will all peck one until its crippled. That's what spawn camping reminds me of. All the roosters tearing the shitouta a weak one. Who wants some?
Justice Prevails 188	Posted - 2014.02.18 03:59:00 - [27] - Quote Agree with the OP that squadding up might help, but it wont overcome experienced proto wearing corps who have been together since day one. Join a corp you say. Then the game gets boring because then I become the stomper, as previously stated, fighting to tear the s**t out of the weak ones. Have enough sp to take my chances against most stompers, but newer players don't. And we NEED them. Know the game was supposed to be team based, but that concept really offers nothing unless they bring back corp battles. When they do that, more people will probably join corps to fight for higher stakes besides PC, which is a pipe dream to most. Great job, team. Head back to the MCC for debriefing and cocktails.
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 475	Posted - 2014.02.18 04:19:00 - [28] - Quote Ran into two squads of FWA earlier today q-syncing into a Dom. They lost.
Lanius Pulvis Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 139	Posted - 2014.02.18 04:30:00 - [29] - Quote You seem to be confusing two things here, Q-syncing and Proto-stomping. I whole-heartedly support syncing, as you say, it's using teamwork to it's fullest. What makes me leave battle if I see a squad plus of Dem Durty Boys is that I know they'll all be proto-stomping. So I guess I half agree with you. Not new, just new to you.
Jackof All-Trades The Black Renaissance 480	Posted - 2014.02.18 05:01:00 - [30] - Quote Xander Mercy wrote: Theres nothing wrong with running q-sync in pubs. The only defences between running solo or with a squad is the communication between players. So pretty much all your saying is "hey these guys are playing as a team and working together, thats not fair why can i do that" well you can its called squading up and it doesn't cost you any sp or isk in fact it may just save you some. And if thats not enough ccp even gave you away to make it easier than it ever was before with squad finder. So get in there start a squad and give us "Stompers" a good fight. Remember like a great earth loving man once said: THE POWER IS YOURS!!! A valid argument. My counterpoint is that once you're in a squad, you already dominate the battlefield. Why would you q-sync? It pretty much hands you the win, as you are a completely organised group fighting a completely disorganised rabble. Do you find enjoyment out using your superior teamwork, tactics, and equipment to destroy a virtually defenceless team? Do you realise how sadistic such behaviour is? Yeah, yeah, welcome to New Eden, HTFU. But you see I don't care, I live with this. I fight teams q-synced every so often, and despite the complete and utter domination you place our team under (of which the only real world analogy that comes to mind is r.a.p.e.), I continue to play a game that despite its downs, I really enjoy playing. So no, I'm not judging your tactics, I'm just judging your morality. "Pulvis et umbra sums." We are but dust and shadow GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace \ Omni-Specialist / Focus: Gallente



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