*reads
*checks corp
*checks alliance
*laughs so hard
*leaves


Nothing like getting 10 proto stompers on 1 team....

Yeah, 3 million SP, one month playing, they should pull out their proto suits, link up with their buddies flying top of the line dropships and driving top tanks and play like real men and quit their bitching. What a hero.

Personally, I would be much less frustrated at getting stomped if I was getting stomped by people who really use teamwork and tactics to win or are genuinely better at the game than me, than by people who dominate simply because they run gear that most of the guys on my team have neither the ISK nor the SP to use.

Not saying that a lot of the protostompers don't also use teamwork and tactics to their advantage - that's all fine and should be encouraged - but stat padders who run protosquads because they know their gear will squash the opposition without challenge should feel bad because they're turning even beta vets like me off this game, to say nothing of the newberries who see that as their first experience out of the academy.

Of course, Scotty should also feel bad because his aptitude for finding appropriate challenges for these protosquads is abysmal, and I'm strongly in favor of a high-priority matchmaking overhaul to create more balanced pub matches in terms of squads and SP. I want to log into Dust for an hour and have fun... kill, die, win, lose, be challenged, not stomped.

FW, PC, and any other game modes that affect the greater New Eden universe should remain open to the same anything-goes mindset that Eve is so famous for, but pubs should be a place for people to have fun, not merely a stomping ground for protobears. No, it isn't "practice" for PC/FW, because there's no challenge involved. Bring back corp battles if you want a practice mode, that way one protosquad can fight another protosquad and be challenged on their terms, while more casual or lower SP players can be challenged on their terms in pubs.

-My .02 isk

So I've read this thread and others. I looked into the game EVE and so some things there. So the veteran players can't take their best gear into a fight. That still doesn't make them new. It only evens the playing field in that they need to get hit less. But they still have the knowledge. So they fit their destroyer or cruiser and head and into the area of the game where the new people are. It is knowing how to use what you have that makes the difference. Regardless of meta level. Tactics and knowledge are the greatest tools to success.

Real world example in the reverse. The Regular Vietnamese army could not go head to head with the US military instead they used tactics and knowledge of the land and what they had with them to hold their own. Same thing applies here. You could give the best trained special forces gear from the 70s and 80s and they would still win guaranteed. Instead of this proto-stomping it would adv-stomping.

So let's say they restrict meta level in corporate matches to adv or below. And those same 12 queue together. Do you think their chances of success are that much lower because of gear? I don't think so.